Sleepers & Sliders
Out of this years draft, who do you think will slide and who do you think is projected low but will play at a high level?
Im still very high on Lorenzo Browns potential to be a great point guard in the league, I think if he falls later in the draft to a playoff team with pieces around him he can develop into at least a solid sixth man, and I think he should be a starter. On a contender with 2 scorers ahead of him, I think he could easily put up 12/8/5 stats, possibly even more, because he is an extremely talented play maker, albeit a little out of control, so if you put guys around him who can finish and score, I think he could be a big time assist man, maybe breaking the 10 mark. I think a team like the Spurs who are in need of a passing back up point would be a great place for him to develop, and alongside Kawhi that could form a future back court tandem for the Spurs. Miami would be a good place for him, allowing Lebron to focus on scoring when Lorenzo is on the court, and when Chalmers is on, Lebron can take over the playmaking duties. I think if Lorenzo were to be taken by the heat, he would have a great rookie season stats wise, barring any horrid transitional issues. Stats wise, at the heat in his rookie year, if he split minutes with Chalmers and Cole at the point(and i think Lorenzo would end up with a bit more minutes because Mario and Norris are both more of shooters then playmakers) he could average 8 points, 5 assists and 3 or 4 boards and a steal or too.
I also really like Allen Crabbes game, he has developed into a deadly shooter since his frosh year, I think if he falls to a team late in the first, someone like the Bulls or the Nuggets who could use help from deep, he can come in for 15-20 minutes a game, and if his stroke follows him from college into the NBA, i see him averaging at least 7-8 ppg in a scoring role of the bench, or even as a designated shooter.
What players are you guys looking at as potential slides and sleepers? Who do you think will be the steal of this draft and why?
There is something about Alex Poythress that leads me to believe he will be a better pro than college player. He is ultra efficient but disappears far too much. He could be a scary prospect at the end of the first round where he can learn from the bench and work on his confidence.
Kelly Olynck is a big guy with range and I could see him being a starting center in the league for years to come. He isn't going to wow you with athleticism but he is solid and really improved his lateral quickness after losing weight.
I could see MCW sliding a bit because other PGs like Burke, Smart and McCollum should all be picked ahead of him in my estimation.
Other potential end of 1st round/2nd round players I like are Kenny Kadji, Rodney Jefferson, Jamaal Franklin, and Brandon Paul.
I agree with Poythress. I think he can be a Wilson Chandler type combo forward. He's big, physical, athletic with a solid stroke from outside. He only takes shots he can make which is actually a nice trait to have as a role player.
Olynyk didn't lose weight, he gained weight. He used to be a soft stretch 4 and was a guard in HS.
I think his best position at the next level is PF.
There's no chance that McCollum will go ahead of MCW unless MCW just decides to stay in college. Burke has an outside chance, but more than likely, MCW will be the #2 PG taken after Smart. As a Bucks fan, I'd love to get him around 14-17 range, but he's not going to make it that far.
I think Cody could end up sliding a little bit (I think he'll end up being taken after Noel and Len), and the same goes for Isiah Austin.
I think Anthony Bennett may slide to the 10-14 range when it's all said and done. Just a hunch, but I think when his official measurements come out, it will worry some NBA GMs.
Otto Porter and MCW are the two guys I think will actually rise a bit. Looking at DraftExpress's most recent mock, they have them going 11th and 12th respectively. I think Porter could rise into the 5-7 range, and something in my gut is telling me MCW will have a big run in the NCAA tourney and he'll end up going 6-8.
1. Gary Harris-People are finally starting to see how good this kid is...
2.Adrien Payne- is moving up the draft boards....He seemed more relaxed and focused this season...And in a weak draft,he could move into the late lottery,if he has a great tournament....
5.Mike Muscala-Reminds me of former Chicago Bull player Will Perdue....
Harris can play but he had a huge turnover at the end of the Michigan game today.
I like Payne, he has really improved and is much more versatile than I thought but I don't see him having any chance to be a lottery pick. He could catch on as a second rounder but I doubt he is on many teams radar as a potential first round selection.
Kelly has a really good feel for the game. How many 6 ft 11 guys can shoot like that? Same can be said for Kadji. A big guy who can shoot with that kind of range and athleticism will always have a place in the NBA. Hell if Novak found a niche on a playoff team,Ryan Kelly should become a very poor man's Dirk/poor man's Ryan Anderson. Otto Porter grows on me everytime i watch him too. Definitely see some Batum in him, with maybe more potential. Seems to be gaining confidence as "the man" each game.
Mason Plumlee and Cody Zeller are both skilled/athletic bigs, but i wish they would demand the ball more. Zeller seems to lack the fire and killer instinct to be a top NBA Center. Seems like one of those decent centers who puts up 13 and 8 a game, but will do it quietly. His rebounds at times seem soft, and sometimes goes up too soft with the ball, and doesnt seem as tall as his actually height at times.
I agree with the mason plumlee cody zeller comments. Cody is the one I have no faith in though. I just don't see what everyone else sees in him. Mason at least has a niche for rebounding and blocking shots. Also crabbe was a shooter from the jump FYI. What he needed to work on was his attacking the basket and dribbling. He's always been a great shooter
Deshaun Thomas will be a productive professional player. He could start on a bad team, and be a great 6th man for a good one. He's jump shot is reliable, and he has the height and length to be able to get it off even when contested. He's an absolute steal in the 2nd round.
KCP is also great value picks in the mid first round. SGs who can shoot from anywhere are hard to come by now a days. Crabbe is a similar package, but should be taken later because of his shaky ball handling abilities.
Players to stay away from:
-Archie Goodwin::: He's like Josh Selby but more selfish and less talented. I wish he went to a different school where he could develop for 3 years. Unfortunately, he picked the only school that will shoo you out the door.
-CJ Leslie::::: I use to be high on this guy. Use to.... Now it is clear that he has no tangible skills. Glue guys are always needed, but every glue guy in the league is able to bring something real to the table. Definitely should not be taken in the 1st round.
Kadji= Big Baby Davis
Deshaun Thomas= Al Thornton/Al Harrington
If Giannis Adetokunbo stays in the draft, he will absolutely be a riser. He'll be a top 10 pick at worst if he comes out IMO.
My sleeper pick is no other than Solomon Hill. Hill is one of the most versatile players in the country flat out. Yes he may not be great a one thing but he has a complete game. Hill can be a soild contributor right away at the next level. People are high on Rondey Williams Andre Robinson even freshman like Bazz and Glenn Robinson. All these guys have potential but none of them have the ability to create there own shot. Hill is the only one have shown that he can consistently create his own shot and for others. IMO if you can't dribble in college your not going to learn in the pro's. Hill has gotten better each year and I don't see that stopping at the next level anytime soon.
Travis Releford - A guy not on most mocks, but a super efficient 6'6'' defensive specialist who has a high IQ and doesn't take bad shots. I could see him being a 3 and D player in the NBA for a long time. Comparison - David Lighty/Kim English
Brandon Davies - Kind of a combo forward who will most likely slide to the 4 in the NBA, but a very skilled guy with good size and solid athletic ability who has had some big games against good competition this season. I think he could get a big boost from the Portsmouth, which I view him as a likely invite, and skilled 4's between 6'7''-6'8'' seem to be the position a lot of teams draft or sign as rookie free agents. Comparison - Lavoy Allen
I'm also high on Muscala, Kadji, and Oriakhi, as 3 bigs who I could see having long careers as compitent backups despite being mid to late 2nd round prospects. They have been mentioned already, so I won't elaborate.
Giannis Adetokundo's agent has already stated that he's entering the draft this year....The only thing Giannis lacks is experience...After all of the workouts he might become a top 10 pick....