Hey all you sixers fan on hear what do you think they are going to do with this years draft. What position do you think they will draft and who. Also who would fit in our rotation, even tho we already have a soild consistant rotation
they desperately need some power forward depth. elton brand is getting old and then next guy up is lavoy allen. i'd be looking at moultrie, white, nicholson or plumlee if i was them. it might so happen that sullinger falls that low after struggling against withey. that would be a steal.
Yea thats what I was thinking however they do use a lot of Thad Yound at the PF for mis-matches on offense. We are going to need a long term PF for the future. Hopefully someone with a great mid range game who can also bang down there
Yeah, I'd go with a PF although I'd want to move up in the draft if possible. Dream scenario would be to get Thomas Robinson if we made a miracle trade to get him but its very unlikely they move up that many spots.
Someone who comes to mind with that skill set: Jason Smith of the Hornets. He's not the flashiest of players but he's pretty young, he's athletic, tall, strong, and has a soft touch from mid range. Not to mention I think Thad Young works better off the bench coming in to create mismatches. Its proven by now that you need a good 6th man to lead your second unit in order for any team to be successful in the NBA at this point.
We already had Jason Smith, we drafted him, but I guess he didn't fit, I do like him game tho.
But New Orleans Hornets prob have a bounty system too, I wonder how much Jason Smith made for running over Blake
Andrew Nicholson would be the ideal pick, maybe Patric Young if he comes out.
Yeah I was thinking that, I was like I swear he had a connection to that team somehow... But that was back when they had a different coach wasn't it? Big men take the longest to develop and he's developed into a very serviceable player.
I'd assume that they may look for a young big maybe a player like Fab Melo or Mason Plumlee for example. If we assume they pick in the 18 to 22 range then to get a sure thing would be a big ask so unless something happened involving Iggy on draft night then I could not see them being able to move up the draft.
^ they'd be looking more for a PF then a Center probably. That's why I think Patric Young or Nicholson would be the best picks. I actually like Young for them since they need toughness from their frontcourt.
I actually wouldn't mind getting Terrence Ross and then moving Evan Turnter to SF. They need outside shooting desperately and they need guys who can get into the paint.
I want to see my Sixers get Renardo Sidney. he could be our future 4 if he gets his mind together, he has talent.. Allota people hate on him but i think Collins might be able to mold him, put him with Brand and mature players like Et and Iggy he could be a steal
I want to trade Lou Williams and our 1st rounder to move up and draft Perry Jones...
I'd also draft John Henson if he's available with our pick...we need some shot blocking...
We need a Starting Pf when we let Brand go next year...So any of the great PF prospects would be Ideal...
I Think Sullinger and Robinson are the most NBA ready, But Perry Jones and John Henson could help out down the road...
ScareCrow, people are really sleeping on Jones man, you are the only other guy on this site who sees how good this guy is gonna be. All signs point to him being a star.
Assuming Henson and Moultrie dont slip that far Royce White and Andrew Nicholson seem like the best options. With all the question marks Royce White has surrounding him I think Philly would rather elect to pick Nicholson. Andrew Nicholson could also give them an element as a traditional post player offensively and a capable stretch PF. Under Collins I think eh could really blossom into a good player in this league, also by gaining experience from Brand and taking his spot as a longterm goal.
I want Perry Jones to be good so bad. He's just one of those can't miss prospects that could enter the league and tear it up... Or he could come in and be a complete bust which would set Philly back another year of being fringe playoff status. But if he even pans out to half of what his potential is, the combination of him, Jrue, and Turner are three great pieces to move forward with.
This Sixers could use two things: (This is not a ranking of what I view most important, just a list of things we need)
One, another scorer off the bench. We struggle for points sometimes, and Lou Williams provides offense, but we went through a stretch over 15 games without scoring 100 points in a game. I like our D, but I think we need to address this concern in the off season.
Two, we need a PF, it's been said already. I don't need to bore you all with the details again.
If Jones is going to fall to 14 or even later, then I think we should move up, and get him. I'm not his biggest fan, but he's a project.You could argue that Scott Drew is an awful in game coach, and didn't use Perry to the best of his abilities. He's got skill, and with Elton's big contract, he'll be on the bench for at least one season anyway. I wouldn't be thrilled at the future of a Vucevic, Jones front court, but I'm not mad about it.
You will be disappointing yourself sixer fans if you take Perry Jones even at 14. For starters i think the main problem with Perry Jones is that he is playing out of position at Baylor, dude is a SF period. He's being pin holed because he's 6'11 but everything about his game screams perimeter.
I think you're missing the point about Drafting Perry Jones, he will be a Sf/Pf/C in the NBA...He will start off his career playing a lot of Sf/Pf, mostly at Pf as a Mismatch off the bench...If a team like The Sixers drafted him, he'd be able to strenghten his body in the weight room and learn how to play in post with Elton Brand in front of him...With guys like Iggy and Thad pushing him at Sf he'd get better there and become even more of a Threat at Sf/Pf...When he gets his body stronger and learns how to play tougher inside he'll be able to play some C as well...I see Perry Jones as a KG lite offensively, He'll have enough ability to hit open jumpers, post up defenders and pass out of double teams...I wonder about Perry's fire, and after watching him in The 2nd Half Vs. Kentucky in The Elite 8 I'm convinced he'll be fine...He played very hard during the 2nd Half, The 1st half he floating around and didn't get as involved as he should have, I blame the Coach and Perry's Team Mates as much as I do PJ3...
If The Sixers were able to move up and Draft this Kid watch out...He'd be an All Star Level Forward within 3 years in a Sixers Uniform...Holiday/Turner and Iguadola are far better passers and teammates Then the ones PJIII had at Baylor, him running the floor with that trio would make him look Amazing in transition...The Sixers don't actually have To play him heavy minutes in his rookie year, this may be the best thing for him as he'll have time to get stronger and gain more confidence in his ability...He'd learn how to play tough defense and post people up...Philly fans would'nt allow him to underachieve, The Team's GM/Coaching Staff and Ownership are all in too, they'd give him every chance to become the Player he was projected to be in The NBA...
Philly's potential Future Line Up...
We'd be very young and Talented, the Only big contracts would be Iggy's expiring deal plus Thad and Spencer's Mid level Contracts(We'd be extending Holiday and Turner at some point too)
First off, Spencer is a FA and I don't see us giving him a huge deal (4-30 is about the highest I want to go) so Center is just about as important as PF at this point. I'm not sold at all on Vuc being our starting center; he looks 2-3 years away from that, if he ever gets there.
If someone unexpected drops to our pick (ex.- Ross, Rivers, Perry, etc.) we take them as the BPA even though they might not be a 4 or 5. A short list of guys that I would be cool with us drafting at our current pick: Perry Jones III, John Henson, Fab Melo (if Hawes bolts), Pat Young.
Last, don't count out an Evan Turner trade on draft night. A lot of teams probably still see a ton of value in him, and he could be packaged with our pick to move up...
Henson or Sidney
If we assume that the Sixers look to retain Hawes, a deal of $7 to $8 million a year would seem fair value for him and they pick up all their other options, they will not have much cap space this summer, so any major moves would probbly have to wait until Brand comes off the books.
For a play off team they don't have any real major scorers with ironically two of their top 3 scorers being bench guys, but Coach Collins runs a very solid system and thir defence is sound enough to get by without a volume scorer. As Turner improves his scoring should continue to rise so that the lack of a 20ppg guy isn't a major worry for me.
With them having a fairly settled and deep line up, Philly can approach the draft two ways, either take a solid complimentary guy who can play minutes from the off and give them extra bench depth in the frontcourt or maybe take a high upside less NBA ready guy who they can allow to develop for a couple of years but not expect too much from him right away.
This year's draft is deep and both Rod Thorn and Doug Collins have been around enough years to know what a team requires so I'd back them to make sensible moves.
I did mention Iggy maybe being in play in an earlier post but I've always said any move should only be to make the current team better and not blow it up and aim for long term rebuilding. Philly look like having their first winning season since the AI era and will be a tough play off match up even if they may not progress that far.
terrence jones to play at PF, another versatile defender.
j'covan brown to spread the floor and bring a needed scoring punch
and gorgui dieng or henry sims to play C
I like T-Jones but one SF/PF tweener on a team is enough for me.
that would clear some cap room but we'd take a step backwards as far as depth goes, Thad plays a huge role off the bench...
I think we need to make a Move in the offseason, either Draft Night or in Free Agency(Via Sign and Trade)...
I lost hope in Amnestying Brand for cap space(There is no one worth The Money this off-season)...
I think we need to make a splash in The Draft, maybe we trade Iggy for a Top 5 pick...Don't scoff at that Thought, The Nets traded a Top 10 Pick for Gerald Wallace, Iguadola is better than Wallace IMO and could get us in the top 5 to 10 range...I would love to draft Anthony Davis of course, Robinson and Sullinger make a lot of sense too, Andre Drummond and Perry Jones III are High Risk High Reward picks, Moultrie/Leonard/Zeller and Henson aren't worth Top 10 Ten Picks IMO but they will go very high and could be the only bigs left on The Board...I love Kidd Gilly and T.Jones but we have Iggy and Thad already, The guards in The draft are good but none of them jumps outs as a sure fire Star, Rivers has some of that "IT" factor but could he and Holiday work as a back court...I like Ross and Wroten a lot to be honest, I think Ross is more NBA ready with his shooting ability and size, but can he play Sg and allow Turner to play the Sf spot, can ET play SF fulltime...Wroten has that "IT" factor but I hate his shooting % and think he needs a lot of work on that end...My favorite Prospect has got to be Perry Jones III, he's not ready to be the starting Pf right now but man if he matures and get stronger WOW...He's got all the tools to be a very good player, he's also a guy we could move up and get, Davis seems unobtainable...
I like the idea of Henson or Moultrie if they're there. I feel like the latter might be.
I would much rather have Thaddeus Young than Terrence Jones. Thad gives us some stuff off of the bench, and I think has a role to play with our franchise for the next few seasons.
I would also be interested in Tyler Zeller. As a senior, he'll fall in the draft, but he's got a very polished offensive game, he works hard on the block, and is a decent defensive center. I think he can be a starting center in the league for 10 years.
I personally would hate taking Drew Henson, I saw enough of him at Carolina.
I don't see how Zeller and Vucevic is a good combination.
I said interested in Tyler Zeller, not draft Tyler Zeller. Reading comprehension, use it.
Drew Henson is so overrated, and I couldn't feel less confident about one of the Tar Heels' NBA future than him.
If we are going PF, I want us to trade up for someone like Jones if he slides. Not draft Henson.
Who is Drew Henson? I thought it was John Henson but maybe I missed something. Is Drew a totally different prospect?
Drew Henson used to be a QB in the NFL for the cowboys I believe
Why in the hell would they be interested in Zeller if they weren't going to draft him?
It's called doing your due diligence so you cover all of your bases. Zeller will be a better pro than Vucevic. Henson won't be a good pro, at least IMO. He's soft, I think someone could literally make him cry in an NBA arena.