[RMolloy24Participant]

So far, the consensus is McLemore will be picked around 1-3 and Shabazz will be picked around 5-10 yet I hear people saying Shabazz has more potential? Who do you think has more potential and who would you compare both of them to? I think the James Harden comparison for Bazz has been thrown out the window by now lol.

[NiceWithTheRockParticipant]

I’m not a scout or anything but Muhammad in a bad way reminds me of Xavier Henry when he was at Kansas. In the league I think his poor handle will hold him back. He could improve his handle, but it doesn’t look like Henry has at all so we’ll see.

[NiceWithTheRockParticipant]

I’m not a scout or anything but Muhammad in a bad way reminds me of Xavier Henry when he was at Kansas. In the league I think his poor handle will hold him back. He could improve his handle, but it doesn’t look like Henry has at all so we’ll see.

[jwostrumParticipant]

id take shabazz. he has that assassin mentality, and I think he is quicker and more athletic than people give him credit for. also he has better length the ben. he just needs to improve his handle and defense, which I think he will do quickly in the nba. ben seems to coast at times, and even though he is more athletic, I don’t think his handle is much better and he does not have the wingspan of shabazz. and once again shabazz playing the 3 in the nba is a mistake in my opinion.

[jwostrumParticipant]

id take shabazz. he has that assassin mentality, and I think he is quicker and more athletic than people give him credit for. also he has better length the ben. he just needs to improve his handle and defense, which I think he will do quickly in the nba. ben seems to coast at times, and even though he is more athletic, I don’t think his handle is much better and he does not have the wingspan of shabazz. and once again shabazz playing the 3 in the nba is a mistake in my opinion.

[strobox88Participant]

Unfortunate thing is none of these two players have a good handle; if any of them had a good handle we’d be looking at a consensus number 1 pick, but adding such a skill to what they already can do would put them in good position to be successful in the NBA.

[strobox88Participant]

Unfortunate thing is none of these two players have a good handle; if any of them had a good handle we’d be looking at a consensus number 1 pick, but adding such a skill to what they already can do would put them in good position to be successful in the NBA.

[hotrod_matthews]

Ok we get it, Shabazz is 20. Ben Is 20 as well lol. Shabazz averaged 18 points a game and domiated more games than Ben. Ben averaged 15 points and didnt show up on road games or the NCAA tourny for the most part. I do not see what everyone else see’s in Ben. He is a better shooter than Shabazz but it really ends there. Shabaaz doesnt have the handle of an Allen Iverson but he has enough to score at will. His physical ability will make up from not having the ankle breaking crossover that everyone seems to think you need to be in the NBA. Ben’s dribble isnt that great either his game was spot up 3’s, contested 3’s, baseline drives or fast breaks. Being that this is relatively a weak draft I think they are both top 5 talents but I would go with Shabazz over Mclemore.

[mercyman25Participant]

Really? I’m a Pac12 fan and watched a ton of UCLA games. Domination wasn’t what came to mind when I watched Shebazz play. He is strong, but that will only get him so far. Throughout the season I was pretty dissapointed with his play. If he doesnt work on his handle he will be a Hassan Adams. If he could be more consistent and learn to pass the ball he could be really good, he has zero leadership skills. I think Mclemore will be better, but we shall see.

[mercyman25Participant]

I would take Victor Oladipo over both of those options.

[mercyman25Participant]

I would take Victor Oladipo over both of those options.

[mercyman25Participant]

Really? I’m a Pac12 fan and watched a ton of UCLA games. Domination wasn’t what came to mind when I watched Shebazz play. He is strong, but that will only get him so far. Throughout the season I was pretty dissapointed with his play. If he doesnt work on his handle he will be a Hassan Adams. If he could be more consistent and learn to pass the ball he could be really good, he has zero leadership skills. I think Mclemore will be better, but we shall see.

[hotrod_matthews]

Ok we get it, Shabazz is 20. Ben Is 20 as well lol. Shabazz averaged 18 points a game and domiated more games than Ben. Ben averaged 15 points and didnt show up on road games or the NCAA tourny for the most part. I do not see what everyone else see’s in Ben. He is a better shooter than Shabazz but it really ends there. Shabaaz doesnt have the handle of an Allen Iverson but he has enough to score at will. His physical ability will make up from not having the ankle breaking crossover that everyone seems to think you need to be in the NBA. Ben’s dribble isnt that great either his game was spot up 3’s, contested 3’s, baseline drives or fast breaks. Being that this is relatively a weak draft I think they are both top 5 talents but I would go with Shabazz over Mclemore.

[Pistol Pete. The PelicanParticipant]

I’m concered about Shabazz’s weight, if you look at his photos from senior year of high school until now. It’s a major difference. I also don’t think it’s a coincidence that he hasn’t looked as explosive and athletic since the weight gain. He says his playing weight is around 222, I think he needs to be back to around 215. He has great length and quickness, body wise sort of like Lance Stephenson. He could use his length and size advantage better at the 2, and play spot duty at the 3.

I like McLemore because I think he has a lesser bust potential, but they can both be very good. I don’t think McLemore will be great, but I think he could give you the same stats he gave you in college his whole NBA career.

[lakeshow22Participant]

Have you seen pictures of shabazz lately? He looks like he slimmed down and looks how he did in high school

[lakeshow22Participant]

Have you seen pictures of shabazz lately? He looks like he slimmed down and looks how he did in high school

[alex23Participant]

yes i have , he looks toned and muscular again hopefully this helps him in the combine..

[alex23Participant]

yes i have , he looks toned and muscular again hopefully this helps him in the combine..

[aaucoachParticipant]

dude,7lbs is not making a difference in anybodys athleticism.bazz didnt look athletic in college because his athleticism was overblown to begin with.

[aaucoachParticipant]

dude,7lbs is not making a difference in anybodys athleticism.bazz didnt look athletic in college because his athleticism was overblown to begin with.

[Pistol Pete. The PelicanParticipant]

I’m concered about Shabazz’s weight, if you look at his photos from senior year of high school until now. It’s a major difference. I also don’t think it’s a coincidence that he hasn’t looked as explosive and athletic since the weight gain. He says his playing weight is around 222, I think he needs to be back to around 215. He has great length and quickness, body wise sort of like Lance Stephenson. He could use his length and size advantage better at the 2, and play spot duty at the 3.

I like McLemore because I think he has a lesser bust potential, but they can both be very good. I don’t think McLemore will be great, but I think he could give you the same stats he gave you in college his whole NBA career.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

I honestly think McLemore has both a higher ceiling and floor. Muhammad is a guy I think will have a harder time transitioning to the NBA because he doesn’t have the defined role of McLemore and I don’t think his shooting will turnout to be as good in the NBA as McLemore. Muhammad simply is much less NBA ready than McLemore. Ideally, Muhammad will drop weight and refine his handle, which is even more important for Muhammad than McLemore because McLemore is even more dangerous without the ball in his hands.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

I honestly think McLemore has both a higher ceiling and floor. Muhammad is a guy I think will have a harder time transitioning to the NBA because he doesn’t have the defined role of McLemore and I don’t think his shooting will turnout to be as good in the NBA as McLemore. Muhammad simply is much less NBA ready than McLemore. Ideally, Muhammad will drop weight and refine his handle, which is even more important for Muhammad than McLemore because McLemore is even more dangerous without the ball in his hands.

[JoeJoParticipant]

Both are flawed but I’d take McLemore because he’s a better athlete (and just a very good, smooth athlete in general) and a better shooter. It wouldn’t surprise me if neither guy makes any all-star teams.

[JoeJoParticipant]

Both are flawed but I’d take McLemore because he’s a better athlete (and just a very good, smooth athlete in general) and a better shooter. It wouldn’t surprise me if neither guy makes any all-star teams.

[omphalosParticipant]

People are sleeping on Bazz, he’s going to be the Barnes of this year’s draft, and McLemore is going to be MKG. MKG has played well, sure, but people are going to realise they made a mistake in a years time, just like Charlotte is with Barnes (or at least they damn well should be).

Also, glad to hear Bazz is slimmed down again, it was only a matter of time before he got the opportunity to work out properly and regain his athleticism, Howland is not a great coach for getting people in shape, and as far as his handle is concerned, he had a very good handle in high school, but the injury layoff and the way Howland used him really hurt his confidence. By the time Summer League comes around he’ll be handling the ball a whole lot better.

Oh, and people who go on and on about Bazz’s age and completely ignore that McLemore is the same age is hilarious to me.

Also, Oladipo? Really? No way.

[omphalosParticipant]

People are sleeping on Bazz, he’s going to be the Barnes of this year’s draft, and McLemore is going to be MKG. MKG has played well, sure, but people are going to realise they made a mistake in a years time, just like Charlotte is with Barnes (or at least they damn well should be).

Also, glad to hear Bazz is slimmed down again, it was only a matter of time before he got the opportunity to work out properly and regain his athleticism, Howland is not a great coach for getting people in shape, and as far as his handle is concerned, he had a very good handle in high school, but the injury layoff and the way Howland used him really hurt his confidence. By the time Summer League comes around he’ll be handling the ball a whole lot better.

Oh, and people who go on and on about Bazz’s age and completely ignore that McLemore is the same age is hilarious to me.

Also, Oladipo? Really? No way.

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