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  • #23671
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    hiphopismylife
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    This isn’t just an overreaction to him going scoreless last night, but i’ve really wondered for some time if he made the right decision when he transferred to Duke. The same way that certain guys can really help their draft prospects by going to a perrenial power, others can hurt it.

    Stephen Curry would not have been the same player had he gone to a bigger school, contrary to what others believe. He had 13 turnovers his first game and had he been at most other schools he would never lived to see that many lol. There is an advantage to going somewhere where you can get the minutes early and play with the confidence he developed each year.

    I loved Seth at Liberty, but let’s look at the facts. He is about 6’3, not a bad athlete but not a really explosive one. We know he can shoot, but typically for a guy of that size and athleticism some big-time numbers would help when assessing draft potential. He would have been among the national leaders in scoring by now at Liberty, and this year at Duke I doubt he’ll even average 10.

    Now he is only a sophomore, but this is Duke after all. He still has Andre Dawkins to contend with on the wing(probably for all of his remaining years), and Austin Rivers will start from day one next season, not to mention Duke is in the running for Shabazz Muhammed and Rodney Purvis in 2012. I get the feeling that they would never start him at the point, but would rather have him at the 2 and then playing the point in spots, meaning that 6th man role could be a permanent one.

    There is no doubt in my mind that he will get a shot in the NBA. His freshman season and the fact that his role will grow with the Blue Devils over the next few years will get him consideration, but personally i’m feeling he took himself from being at worst a 2nd round lock (I feel like he would have ended up in the first) to possibly going undrafted.

    Do uou guys believe transferring to Duke helps or hurts his DRAFT STOCK? Not his game….

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  • #449832
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    Helps, people only know the Liberty as a women’s professional basketball team. Curry and Rivers together can be big hype, the opportunity is there. Not to mention coach K didn’t even consider cutting his rookie brother on the USA team. Coach K takes care of his people he has the opportunity to do great.

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  • #449854
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    Helps, people only know the Liberty as a women’s professional basketball team. Curry and Rivers together can be big hype, the opportunity is there. Not to mention coach K didn’t even consider cutting his rookie brother on the USA team. Coach K takes care of his people he has the opportunity to do great.

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  • #449858
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    Helps, people only know the Liberty as a women’s professional basketball team. Curry and Rivers together can be big hype, the opportunity is there. Not to mention coach K didn’t even consider cutting his rookie brother on the USA team. Coach K takes care of his people he has the opportunity to do great.

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  • #449850
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    I’ve heard some scouts say that if Seth came out next year,he’ll still be a  mid to late 1st round pick..They say his game is similar to Devin Harris..And he’s a better playmaker than his brother

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  • #449872
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    I’ve heard some scouts say that if Seth came out next year,he’ll still be a  mid to late 1st round pick..They say his game is similar to Devin Harris..And he’s a better playmaker than his brother

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  • #449877
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    I’ve heard some scouts say that if Seth came out next year,he’ll still be a  mid to late 1st round pick..They say his game is similar to Devin Harris..And he’s a better playmaker than his brother

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  • #449855
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    Than that scout is wrong, he plays nothing like Devin Harris. But I’m pretty sure coming to Duke was still a good move. He is the 2nd guy off the bench this year, and will probably be the 6th next year with Dawkins moving into the starting lineup.

    Also, he has already been getting decent minutes and I expect that he will get more. I think Duke will blow out a lot of teams this year, ending the game early, opening up a lot of playing time.

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  • #449878
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    Than that scout is wrong, he plays nothing like Devin Harris. But I’m pretty sure coming to Duke was still a good move. He is the 2nd guy off the bench this year, and will probably be the 6th next year with Dawkins moving into the starting lineup.

    Also, he has already been getting decent minutes and I expect that he will get more. I think Duke will blow out a lot of teams this year, ending the game early, opening up a lot of playing time.

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  • #449883
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    Than that scout is wrong, he plays nothing like Devin Harris. But I’m pretty sure coming to Duke was still a good move. He is the 2nd guy off the bench this year, and will probably be the 6th next year with Dawkins moving into the starting lineup.

    Also, he has already been getting decent minutes and I expect that he will get more. I think Duke will blow out a lot of teams this year, ending the game early, opening up a lot of playing time.

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  • #449864
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    I agree with I’m Your Father. I don’t see any similarities to Devin Harris. Not the same level of speed and more of a shooter. I can’t see any scout saying a mid to late first rounder when he’s the seventh man and when we’re talking about his minutes increasing because of mop-up duty lol.

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  • #449887
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    I agree with I’m Your Father. I don’t see any similarities to Devin Harris. Not the same level of speed and more of a shooter. I can’t see any scout saying a mid to late first rounder when he’s the seventh man and when we’re talking about his minutes increasing because of mop-up duty lol.

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  • #449891
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    I agree with I’m Your Father. I don’t see any similarities to Devin Harris. Not the same level of speed and more of a shooter. I can’t see any scout saying a mid to late first rounder when he’s the seventh man and when we’re talking about his minutes increasing because of mop-up duty lol.

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  • #449989
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    Im a Duke fan, i think it was a mistake. The biggest thing that hurt him, IMO was i thought he would be considerably better than Andre Dawkins. He is not even better than Dawkins. Next year, they bring in Rivers and Quinn Cook, and he remains the 4th guard. He will be lucky to start as a senior.

    I think his game could improve, but with the looks hes getting he should be hitting more 3s.

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  • #450012
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    Im a Duke fan, i think it was a mistake. The biggest thing that hurt him, IMO was i thought he would be considerably better than Andre Dawkins. He is not even better than Dawkins. Next year, they bring in Rivers and Quinn Cook, and he remains the 4th guard. He will be lucky to start as a senior.

    I think his game could improve, but with the looks hes getting he should be hitting more 3s.

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  • #450020
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    Im a Duke fan, i think it was a mistake. The biggest thing that hurt him, IMO was i thought he would be considerably better than Andre Dawkins. He is not even better than Dawkins. Next year, they bring in Rivers and Quinn Cook, and he remains the 4th guard. He will be lucky to start as a senior.

    I think his game could improve, but with the looks hes getting he should be hitting more 3s.

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  • #450001
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    stanford hoops

    When has he shown to be a better play maker then his brother at the same stage?

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  • #450024
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    stanford hoops

    When has he shown to be a better play maker then his brother at the same stage?

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  • #450032
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    stanford hoops

    When has he shown to be a better play maker then his brother at the same stage?

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  • #450065
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    Ghost01
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    I dont think anyone who watches basketball thinks seth at any point in his life has been as good as steph.

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  • #450075
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    Ghost01
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    I dont think anyone who watches basketball thinks seth at any point in his life has been as good as steph.

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  • #450043
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    Ghost01
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    I dont think anyone who watches basketball thinks seth at any point in his life has been as good as steph.

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  • #450058
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    stanford hoops

    Rudeboy said a scout or he thinks seth is a better playmaker. Not better player

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  • #450080
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    stanford hoops

    Rudeboy said a scout or he thinks seth is a better playmaker. Not better player

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  • #450090
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    stanford hoops

    Rudeboy said a scout or he thinks seth is a better playmaker. Not better player

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  • #450076
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    A scout that works for the Grizzlies said that he loves Seth’s game…

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  • #450099
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    RUDEBOY_
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    A scout that works for the Grizzlies said that he loves Seth’s game…

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  • #450108
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    RUDEBOY_
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    A scout that works for the Grizzlies said that he loves Seth’s game…

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  • #450079
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    Im Your Father
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    I don’t think he’s either. He is a good player though and I think he’ll play in the NBA.

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  • #450101
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    Im Your Father
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    I don’t think he’s either. He is a good player though and I think he’ll play in the NBA.

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  • #450111
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    Im Your Father
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    I don’t think he’s either. He is a good player though and I think he’ll play in the NBA.

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  • #450103
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    hiphopismylife
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    Yeah Stanford i’m not so sure but we’ll see as time goes. I heard Chad Ford say it in an interview. That that was at least the perception, and Steph has said that Seth is the better athlete and has more of an off the dribble game. His freshman year at Liberty he showed more ability off the bounce than Steph had at the same age, but Steph really improved that part of his game.

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  • #450125
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    Yeah Stanford i’m not so sure but we’ll see as time goes. I heard Chad Ford say it in an interview. That that was at least the perception, and Steph has said that Seth is the better athlete and has more of an off the dribble game. His freshman year at Liberty he showed more ability off the bounce than Steph had at the same age, but Steph really improved that part of his game.

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  • #450135
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    Yeah Stanford i’m not so sure but we’ll see as time goes. I heard Chad Ford say it in an interview. That that was at least the perception, and Steph has said that Seth is the better athlete and has more of an off the dribble game. His freshman year at Liberty he showed more ability off the bounce than Steph had at the same age, but Steph really improved that part of his game.

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  • #450141
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    As far as his stock goes, I think it’s going to help him, but obviously not right away.  If he were at Liberty dropping close to 30 a night as a Junior paired with the success of his brother coming from a small school he’d be a lottery pick for sure while this year he is averaging 8 points off the bench for Duke and not even in talk of leaving this spring.

     However, I think playing for Coach K will help him in the long run when he does enter the draft.  People will care less what stats he put up and really focus on what he can do on the court and playing at Duke under Coach K and with Irving and Rivers will most certainly help his game which will in turn help his stock.

    So, my answer is no.

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  • #450163
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    As far as his stock goes, I think it’s going to help him, but obviously not right away.  If he were at Liberty dropping close to 30 a night as a Junior paired with the success of his brother coming from a small school he’d be a lottery pick for sure while this year he is averaging 8 points off the bench for Duke and not even in talk of leaving this spring.

     However, I think playing for Coach K will help him in the long run when he does enter the draft.  People will care less what stats he put up and really focus on what he can do on the court and playing at Duke under Coach K and with Irving and Rivers will most certainly help his game which will in turn help his stock.

    So, my answer is no.

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  • #450176
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    As far as his stock goes, I think it’s going to help him, but obviously not right away.  If he were at Liberty dropping close to 30 a night as a Junior paired with the success of his brother coming from a small school he’d be a lottery pick for sure while this year he is averaging 8 points off the bench for Duke and not even in talk of leaving this spring.

     However, I think playing for Coach K will help him in the long run when he does enter the draft.  People will care less what stats he put up and really focus on what he can do on the court and playing at Duke under Coach K and with Irving and Rivers will most certainly help his game which will in turn help his stock.

    So, my answer is no.

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  • #450159
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    I wonder if stephen really thinks that or hes just tryna pump his lil brother up like alot of older brothers do. they usually say there younger brothers are better then them (s.marbry said zach was better then he was years ago)

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  • #450180
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    I wonder if stephen really thinks that or hes just tryna pump his lil brother up like alot of older brothers do. they usually say there younger brothers are better then them (s.marbry said zach was better then he was years ago)

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  • #450194
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    I wonder if stephen really thinks that or hes just tryna pump his lil brother up like alot of older brothers do. they usually say there younger brothers are better then them (s.marbry said zach was better then he was years ago)

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  • #450240
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    yeah, i’ve seen them play when they were younger, and seth is not as good as stephen in any way

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  • #450262
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    TooNice4TV
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    yeah, i’ve seen them play when they were younger, and seth is not as good as stephen in any way

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  • #450273
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    TooNice4TV
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    yeah, i’ve seen them play when they were younger, and seth is not as good as stephen in any way

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  • #450314
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    I certainly think it wasn’t a particular smart idea to transfer.  I really don’t like how the NCAA forces people to sit out a year for transferring.  I was really surprised that Seth Curry would have done that.  He would basically miss 1 year of real college basketball just to play under Coach K.

    I recalled Seth Curry wasn’t really being heavily recruited out of HS and one of the schools that made him an offer was Davidson, but he decided to go to Liberty instead to stay away from playing under the shadow of his brother.  If Seth would have gone to Davidson, he might have been the man for Davidson after Steph went on to the NBA.  He could have come out in last year draft and being a 1st round pick since there were no good good PG prospect beside John Wall and Eric Bledsoe.

    Unfortunately, he’s playing behind Kyrie Irving and Nolan Smith, so it seems like he probably would have to stay at Duke for another year and hope that he would get his chance to start beside Austin River.

    I actually think Seth has a lot of similarities to his brother, but definitely not Devin Harris.  At this point, it is hard to tell whether his passing is better than Steph since he’s not playing PG and he doesn’t play enough minutes to warrant be to selected in the 2011 draft.  I certainly see him as a 1st round pick in 2012.  If he is given the chance to play more and handle PG duties, he can probably be 1st round in 2011, but it won’t happen as long as Irving and Smith are not injured.

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  • #450335
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    I certainly think it wasn’t a particular smart idea to transfer.  I really don’t like how the NCAA forces people to sit out a year for transferring.  I was really surprised that Seth Curry would have done that.  He would basically miss 1 year of real college basketball just to play under Coach K.

    I recalled Seth Curry wasn’t really being heavily recruited out of HS and one of the schools that made him an offer was Davidson, but he decided to go to Liberty instead to stay away from playing under the shadow of his brother.  If Seth would have gone to Davidson, he might have been the man for Davidson after Steph went on to the NBA.  He could have come out in last year draft and being a 1st round pick since there were no good good PG prospect beside John Wall and Eric Bledsoe.

    Unfortunately, he’s playing behind Kyrie Irving and Nolan Smith, so it seems like he probably would have to stay at Duke for another year and hope that he would get his chance to start beside Austin River.

    I actually think Seth has a lot of similarities to his brother, but definitely not Devin Harris.  At this point, it is hard to tell whether his passing is better than Steph since he’s not playing PG and he doesn’t play enough minutes to warrant be to selected in the 2011 draft.  I certainly see him as a 1st round pick in 2012.  If he is given the chance to play more and handle PG duties, he can probably be 1st round in 2011, but it won’t happen as long as Irving and Smith are not injured.

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  • #450345
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    I certainly think it wasn’t a particular smart idea to transfer.  I really don’t like how the NCAA forces people to sit out a year for transferring.  I was really surprised that Seth Curry would have done that.  He would basically miss 1 year of real college basketball just to play under Coach K.

    I recalled Seth Curry wasn’t really being heavily recruited out of HS and one of the schools that made him an offer was Davidson, but he decided to go to Liberty instead to stay away from playing under the shadow of his brother.  If Seth would have gone to Davidson, he might have been the man for Davidson after Steph went on to the NBA.  He could have come out in last year draft and being a 1st round pick since there were no good good PG prospect beside John Wall and Eric Bledsoe.

    Unfortunately, he’s playing behind Kyrie Irving and Nolan Smith, so it seems like he probably would have to stay at Duke for another year and hope that he would get his chance to start beside Austin River.

    I actually think Seth has a lot of similarities to his brother, but definitely not Devin Harris.  At this point, it is hard to tell whether his passing is better than Steph since he’s not playing PG and he doesn’t play enough minutes to warrant be to selected in the 2011 draft.  I certainly see him as a 1st round pick in 2012.  If he is given the chance to play more and handle PG duties, he can probably be 1st round in 2011, but it won’t happen as long as Irving and Smith are not injured.

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  • #450461
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    stanford hoops

    I like that rule. Imagine if you didn’t have to sit out after transferring. Can you imagine how many guys Coach Cal would be getting? None of the mid majors would be that good because they would get a player who plays better then expected then that player will transfer to Duke,UNC, Kentucky because those are the schools he really wanted to go to in the first place but they never recruited him. Coaches would start calling players while they are at another college telling them to transfer to there school. Recruiting wouldn’t stop at the high school level anymore

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  • #450481
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    I like that rule. Imagine if you didn’t have to sit out after transferring. Can you imagine how many guys Coach Cal would be getting? None of the mid majors would be that good because they would get a player who plays better then expected then that player will transfer to Duke,UNC, Kentucky because those are the schools he really wanted to go to in the first place but they never recruited him. Coaches would start calling players while they are at another college telling them to transfer to there school. Recruiting wouldn’t stop at the high school level anymore

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  • #450493
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    I like that rule. Imagine if you didn’t have to sit out after transferring. Can you imagine how many guys Coach Cal would be getting? None of the mid majors would be that good because they would get a player who plays better then expected then that player will transfer to Duke,UNC, Kentucky because those are the schools he really wanted to go to in the first place but they never recruited him. Coaches would start calling players while they are at another college telling them to transfer to there school. Recruiting wouldn’t stop at the high school level anymore

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