Looking at the T-Wolves roster I saw that we brought Telfair back at some point (was away for a while must not have noticed). Since he came straight out of HS, he is still very young (25). Do you think he will ever come close to the expectations some set for him as the first and only PG to make the jump from HS to the NBA. He has consistently averaged about 10ppg and 5 assists, but maybe that experience will finally start to pay off at some point. I highly doubt that he would ever become an elite PG , starter might even stretch it, but I do think he still has room to improve. I really want to see him succeed just wanted to see everyone elses thoughts on Telfair.
Prediction for his best season in the future if he gets solid time...
1.7 TO pg
He probably will never put up those numbers in the same season. And he also will never average 14 ppg.
I think he's a 2nd or even 3rd PG in the NBA. He has shown he can take care of the ball, and is a threat in the drive and dish, but he can't shoot and he's not really strong or athletic enough to score efficiently when he takes shots at the rim. I like Telfair after watching that Through the Fire movie, but he's a backup PG who probably shouldn't ever play more than 18 mpg or so
With Flynn and Ridnour both DEFINTELY playing ahead of him. I'd be surprised if he averaged 4 points.
He'll be the backup point while Flynn is out with injury, and Ridnour isn't like Rondo who will play almost the entire game night in night out so he should get the chance to make an impression. Always sucks seeing unfulfilled potential.
Im not saying for next season, I am saying potentially at the future in some point in time. Looking back 14ppg is probably too high, I will agree with that. Maybe 10 is better.
I don't know why ya'll are saying 14 is too high when he averaged 9.8 his second year in the league when he was 19 and got a career scoring average of 8 points in 23 minutes so if you adjust that to a 35 minute night its close. So what does that tell us? That if he were put in a position to fill in for an injured starter he probably would put up them points. Telfair still doesn't have a good shot, but it has gotten better since he's came in the league. And I would still say the guys a pin point passer even if he does turn the ball over too much. There has been a wave of young point guards come into the league since he was the first one drafted our of H.S. really limiting his opportunities. But Telfair still got game and will always be floating around somewhere, come out one night and drop 20 and 12 and have the broadcaster say you know thats what he can do then not play the rest of the season.
If Sebastian Telfair puts up 14 ppg in a season, I will literally never talk about or watch basketball for the rest of my life. That's how sure I am he will never average 14 ppg. Sounds like a bet?
Once Flynn is back form hip surgery Telfair will either be traded or bought out. That's what was intended when the Wolves originally made the trade with Cleveland.
Telfair will never receive enough minutes to be 10 pts a game... 14 is a joke.
Telfair is making a living in the NBA.... but that's about all he's doing in the league.
I think his opportunity to be a starting point guard may never happened because you have a lot of point guards coming in that are bigger and and just as good or better than him. I think He is good enough right now to average 14 pt 7 assists but the thing is will he get that opportunity. flynn is hurt early on so Telfair will probably put up average within this range per minutes played but unless he gets blessed and does to the right team at a time where they need a point guard because of injuries or what not and he just sticks. I mean right now Suns could use a bk if that Euro guys decides to go back overseas and when Nash is done that could be a situation but like I said, it will be tough because most teams have a good point guard and the ones that don't are going to be looking at the draft. Telfair would have been wise to go to college and refine his game so he would have come to the NBA ready after a few years instead of not showing anything early on because he was young and kinda being labeled a bk up when in all honesty he is better than a few point guards that are starting.
How is 14 a joke if you look at his game logs for the past several season everytime he gets more then 30 minutes a game he puts up atleast 14 points. The thing is he will never get the playing time because he doesn't have great defense. If he could be a better defender and turn into one of those 2nd team leaders I see no reason he couldn't carve out a name for himself similar to the way Rafer did. Alston does have great shooting ability tho, and Telfair has to work on that. Big Time. But Bassy is a quality guard. What he brings to the table is good ball control, and uncanny court vision. If he had a better jumper he could be a Jameer Nelson like PG. And Bassy is still young enough to develop into that type of PG. Not as good but for a player with the talent and considering his age to say he has no shot at averaging 14 a game is insane. I think it unlikely because but if it happened I wouldn't be surprised in the least.
First and only pg to make the jump from HS to NBA? Shawn Livingston was drafted higher than him IN THE SAME DRAFT. People forget about his talent because of his gross knee injury.
I can't bring myself to say that a 25 yr old with that much talent is done in the NBA, but he needs to make a commitment to defense and spot up shooting to make himself more valuable on the floor. His team can't win if he dominated the ball. Only a few teams can do that because they have Paul, Williams, Nash or Rose.
Lol y'all really are smoking every single drug known to man. Sebastian Telfair will NEVER average 14 ppg. Or 7 apg. He could though. 99.9% of any PG in the NBA can get 14 and 7, but what team would give him that kind of freedom? He has never shot close to 45% from the field, so why would a coach make him a scorer? It makes no sense. You guys really don't know what y'all are talking about if you think Telfair will EVER get 14 ppg or 7 apg in the NBA. I don't care how old he is.
If Telfair is playing 30 minutes a game for you it wouldn't matter if he was averaging 14 pts. 7 assists.... I'm sorry but you are not going to be anywhere near the playoffs. If he's good enough for 30 minutes on a team that team is garbage.
Do you guys think College would have helped or exposed him?
College would of definitley helped him and if anything he would of been drafted higher and came into the league with a better skill set and more understanding of how to run a team.
You got to remember he averaged over 7 points a game as a rookie, and almost 10 his second year. And that was in the NBA what do you think his averages would of looked like had he went to Louisville like he was gonna be and played for Pitino?
Telfair is one injury to Ridnour away from proving you wrong, you're talking about the same team that is about to make Darko they're starting center. Obviously this is a team that don't believe in giving up on potential. If Ridnour goes down, or Flynn remains out for atleast a month and Telfair gets around 28 minutes a game he is going to be averaging around 12 and 6 in the first month of the season getting 28 minutes a game. That's more then reasonable. And the Wolves already know they're not getting anywhere near a playoff birth despite B-Easy saying them and the Lakers are the team to beat.
Sebastian Telfair won't get 12 ppg. He also will never play 28 mpg again. The fact that you have to hope for 2 PG's to get hurt for him to produce is pathetic. As I said, any PG can get 14 ppg and 7 apg or 12 ppg and 6 apg, but at what cost? You almost have to expect some raise in production if a teams top 2 PG 's go down, but does that mean he's any better? NO. It doesn't. He's a 2nd or 3rd PG. I don't care if I get -5 points on that 1st post. All it shows is that 5 people don't understand what a player's role or ability is, because they have some fascination with him.
You keep bringing up Telfair getting 6.8 ppg as a rookie and 9.5 as a 2nd year player, but what about him shooting 39% from the floor? Or what about the season's were he got 32 mpg and 28 mpg and only got 9.3 and 9.8 ppg respectively? Once again, your arguments make no sense. HE'S NOT MORE THAN BACKUP MATERIAL. Anyone can put up raised numbers with more minutes, but at what point will you open your eyes and say "this guy really shouldn't be playing this much" or "he shouldn't be shouldering this much load?"
@Jnixon so do you think College would have helped
I personally dont... I think had he gone he would have produced numbers similiar to Kemba Walker
That being said do you see Kemba Walker having a the same type of Pro career as Bash
I actually like that comparison, except Walker is going to be a better defender in the NBA.
I think he would've produced in college, but I still think he would've only benefitted marginally. His lack of size would still hinder him in the NBA, and he doesn't have legit range or consistency on his shot. I think his shooting and slashing would have translated to college basketball more than it has in the NBA, but I think his improvements would've been centered mostly around his basketball IQ, his ability pressure the ball on D, and his ability to run a team, and those aren't really his problems in the NBA for the most part. Therefore, I don't think college would've helped him all that much.
Iggy, any point guard can't really do it because there are a lot of starting point guards that have not reach that mark but I will admit most do. Duhon comes to mind but then again he should never have been starting.
My point is if giving the minutes not every point guard has the craftiness or the scoring prowess to get that many points a game. I never said Bassy will lead a team to the playoffs or a team would win with him. But he can get those averages if giving the minutes. Thats my only arguement. And no not just any PG could easily get those numbers. And he did finish in the top 15 in assists the year he played 32 minutes that speaks to his effectiveness as a distributor.
And I like Kemba Walker a lot but Telfair was a way higher rated prospect coming out as a H.S. senior. The Kid averages over 30 points and 10 assists his JR. and SR. year in high school. He was a decent three point shooter in H.S. which would of translated to college cuz the line is the same. With that said I think he would of had a DJ Augustine like impact in college. Dj is hands down a better shooter but Telfair is evey bit the playmaker Augustine is.
Alright, your right. Any point guard can't do it. Chris Duhon and Sebastian Telfair, and a few others. But that illustrates my point: Telfair will NEVER get 14 and 7 or 12 and 6 in a season.
Just like Robin Lopez isn't better than Brook Lopez, Ramon Sessions isn't a top 5 PG, Raymond Felton won't get 20 ppg and 9 apg, and Anthony Randolph doesn't have the potential to be better than Kevin Durant
Please don't tell me that Sheltwon said all that stuff in the past.
"Robin Lopez is better than Brook Lopez?"
"Anthony Randolph has the potential to be better than Kevin Durant?"
Can I have some?
Robin Lopezs hair is better than Brooks
People actually think that stuff?
They are way more ambitious predictions then one player scoring 14 ppg on the worse team in the league. And Sessions sucks he had one 20 assists game and people thought he was the next coming of Deron Williams.