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Sacramento drafting Derrick Williams?!?!

what if Sacramento with their draft pick will take Derrick Williams, you can imagine what a luxury it will be for them to have two go to guy bigs at the same time, DeMarcus Cousins and Derrick Williams one on each block. Derrick Williams also develop a great outside shot which could be very useful for Tyreke and his driving. if that not enough Derrick Williams is also high character guy and hard worker, somthing the Kings sure needed!

i think after Kyrie Irving, Derrick Williams is the player the Kings should be high on at the most, and i'm not sure if not before Irving!


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Williams would be a great

Williams would be a great pick for them. Some see him as too much of a tweener but i think he can play PF he is agressive enough and he plays with fire. Im not comparing him to Blake talent wise but he could have the same impact to Cousins that Blake did on Jordan light a fire under his ass.

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I rather have Jared Sullinger

I rather have Jared Sullinger over Derrick Williams if I were the Kings. Williams isn't a good defender. Nor is Sullinger but he's better then Williams. The Kings need to do all they can to get Irving but if they can't get them, then I could see them drafting Barnes for the 3 or Sullinger for the 4.

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No way Sull is a better

No way Sull is a better defender. Williams can actually block shots and has much better lateral movement. Sullinger is too much like Cousins big thick bodies that play below the rim smaller athletic power forwards would abuse them.

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Good move...

They need more of a pure small forward though. Like Harrison barnes. Because Demarcus cousins is more of a PF. And they have a serious hole at the SF position. If Derrick for sure is the big ticket there, then yes. But if not, a pure Small forward would work better.

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Yeah I agree Kayjay. The

Yeah I agree Kayjay. The Kings draftboard should look like this: Irving, Barnes, Williams, Sullinger (Really though Williams and Sullinger are interchangeable)

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Thats a common misconception

Thats a common misconception that if you block more you are a better defender. Williams is actually a wort defender then Sullinger who is actually a good defender because he moves his man off the block and forces him to take difficult shots as well as stays in front of him with his quick feet.

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I would have to say the same

I would have to say the same Irving, Barnes, Williams, Sull. But if you guys think that Cousins is a PF then getting a long athletic C who has more of an outside game wouldn't hurt it could be a very good combo of skill sets. Like Donatas. Or keep him at C and call Donatas your PF doesn't matter.

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no way dude, I agree pairing Donatas with Big Cuz would be very intriguing as Donatas could roam around the perimeter and open up the paint for Big Cuz but they will have a Top 5 pick and I have loved Donatas for a long time but I would not take him that high. Maybe I'm wrong but what has he done lately? Does anyone know if he's improved or gotten bigger? Because he's not going to much of a rebounder of defender if he has not put any weight on. I think Jan Vesely and Jonas are equal or better prospects at this point, which would not have been said a year ago or so. Kings HAVE to get Kyrie AT ALL COSTS. Kyrie, Tyreke and Big Cuz. ohhhhh weeeeee that is quite the core for the ANAHEIM ROYALS hahahaha. I lived in Sacramento and that will be really sad if they moved

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You're right blocking doesn't

You're right blocking doesn't mean your a better defender but he alters more shots and doesn't let guys get by him he keeps them in front. Sull is a better low block defender but all around I would give it to Williams.

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for example

Jonas rebounds at about the same rate as Donatas in the Euroleague and Eurocup, but in literally half the minutes

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I agree a lot depends on

I agree a lot depends on where the Kings see DMC long term as either a PF or a C. I'd throw Kanter into the mix as well as he could play either position and effectively play around DMC. I like Motiejunas as a pick for the Kings as well as he offers something different to DMC and Dalambert etc, Also if they keep Dalambert then they could draft a younger big and give him time to develop.

Personally I'd like Harrison Barnes for the Kings if they cannot get Irving, if Williams can be a full time SF then he'd be an option or an even better choice if they look for DMC to take over the C role in due course. Another option could be Jan Vesley who gives them size at SF which they need.

Really in most top 10 mocks only Jared Sullinger would not be a good fit there and that is only because he and DMC are a bit to similar and nothing to do with him as a prospect.

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Kyrie is the number one

Kyrie is the number one choice but I was saying if they are going big. Also if they feels that he is a better fit then any other big man no reason to say "well he's only worth the 8th pick and we have the 4th so hes out" if he fits and is talented and would give your team something they are missing take him.

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@nappy I don't get to see the

@nappy I don't get to see the euro guys much if ever but I'm using Donatas kind of as an example, and because the top college big is to similar to Cousins.

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nba position

Williams is a small forward in the nba not a power forward he's 6'8 and can shoot and handle well enough to play on perimeter the kings have cousins and thompson down low williams can play the three and he's best option if Irving is gone.

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Didnt the Kings just traded

Didnt the Kings just traded an undersized PF (Carl Landry), so why would they draft one? I think they should go for a SF if Irving is gone, possibly Barnes.

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Williams and Arizonia are one

Williams and Arizonia are one of the worst Defending teams in a major conference. He does let guys score on him, have you watched Arizona this year? Stanford's bigs scored on him prety easily as well as other bigs. Its not a secret that he's not a good defender

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He does have spurts where he

He does have spurts where he is a very good defender though wich i think he can/will end up being because he has shown he can be. Prob will become better once he doesn't have to carry a team

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@mess.eee: Carl Landry has

@mess.eee: Carl Landry has nothing to do with this pick... first of all the Kings trading him was Mainly due to him being expiring contract and they don't felt to resign and pay him big nor he worth it, also they got for him good value, nice scorer in Thornton on cheap contract.

secondly Derrick Williams is much better player then Landry, he is not the ballhog that Landry is, he is better defender, better passer, even in scoring which is Landry only strength Williams is more complete and more quality.

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The only way to compare is to

The only way to compare is to compare landry on the college level to Williams since Williams hasnt played in the NBA yet

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Williams is a 4 through and through

Have you seen Williams play? If he is a 3, he is a HUGE 3. Look at that body of his, I haven't seen a 3's body like that ever. 6'8 and like 240lbs. Thats a big body for a 3 and few can match it. I can only think of Durant who can do it. Do you see Williams being the next Durant, I don't think so. He is a PF through and through. There are PF's who are undersized who can shoot the 3. Besides the Wizards like Williams alot, they think he can replace Blatche who they want to get rid of.

I don't think the Kings will draft a big this year. They need a PG and a 3 more. They should go for Irving but if not they could also go for Barnes. If neither Barnes or Irving are available, which would really suck imo, expect the Kings to go for Kanter or Jonas.

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@Hitster: the point is not

@Hitster: the point is not where the Kings see Cousins long term as PF or a C, the point is to find a good complementary big for him, i think Derrick Williams is the best fit out of all the bigs in this draft, on defense Williams would guard the outside and the of the dribble bigs which Cousins should and only could guard inside bigs, on offense Williams complete him very well with his mobility, his outside shot, his unselfishness and great workethic.
if you could take Derrick Williams why to take instead Motiejunas, it's merely risky!

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Sacremento already has guys

Sacremento already has guys like Evans and Cousins who need the ball and score, all they need is role players. I guy like Williams being a tweener and more of a scorer wouldn't be a good pick. A guy like Irving or Barnes would be perfect as I see them being guys who don't need a ball and can fit into their roles better than other guys.

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Williams hasnt shown he can

Williams hasnt shown he can play the three though. He can shoot but his handles is nothing like a three. You really have never seen a guy play Sf with his size? You never watched Lamar Odom or Keith Van Horn, Tim Thomas,Robert Horry, Rashard Lewis,Detlef,Peja, donyell Marshall?

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it's importend to say that

it's importand to say that what Sacramento need first is maybe a new coach, there is no chemistry on the team whatsoever, they already very underachiever with that roster, so i don't know if any player no metter how good he is that would come could solve the problem!

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A new coach

Can be decided at any time. Right now, its either Irving, or a pure small forward.

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