Rubio and Flynn
So as it turns out, the real story on all this is said to be, I know, it's pretty long.
Misconceptions About Rubio: The Ricky Rubio situation in Minnesota is not pretty, and over the past few days we have heard a lot of voices chime in about Rubio and what his camp is seeking. When the Minnesota Timberwolves selected both Rubio and Syracuse point guard Jonny Flynn in back-to-back picks last Thursday, things came unglued for the Wolves and HOOPSWORLD spent a considerable amount of time on this subject this weekend. A lot of what we're hearing on Ricky just simply is not true. Here is what's going on with Rubio:
No Problem With 'Sota: The belief that Ricky Rubio is not interested in playing in Minnesota because of climate is the furthest from the truth. Rubio's camp has made it clear that you don't get to pick your team in the draft, that's what free agency is for. Ricky and those close to him are going to be asked the weather question, but that's not weighing into the decision. The primary issue with Minnesota is the log jam they created at point guard, that's it. The reality is David Kahn did a pretty good job selling an idea to Ricky's camp prior to drafting him, and idea most of Ricky's advisors were on board with – until they drafted Jonny Flynn.
Flynn Isn't Happy Either: This is not a one sided issue. Ricky Rubio's camp has simply been the most vocal in its displeasure, but word is Johnny Flynn and his agent Leon Rose were not happy either. Neither player wants to share time and neither player is buying into the "they'd be great together" notion that David Kahn has tried to sell. Both are pure point guards that need the ball to be effective, neither wants to compete with each other.
Europe Not The Option: These reports of European teams with offers, is more about lighting a fire under the Wolves. The complexities of Rubio's buyout make him almost impossible to sign in Europe unless a team really overpays for him. It's not out of the realm of possibility, but let's be real for a minute. Ricky wants to play in the NBA and his camp is not going to do anything rash.
The Knicks Have No Assets: Rumors of the Knicks landing Rubio is a media pipe dream, the Knicks interest in Ricky is lukewarm at best, add the fact that New York has no attractive assets and a deal with the Knicks would require a third team willing to give Minnesota something it seeks. There are a number of interested teams which is why these European offers make so little sense. The Grizzlies were offered an enormous amount of options by team seeking the chance to grab Rubio, that's where the solution for Rubio's camp lies. The hope is after the free agent period opens and salaries get locked in for the 2009-2010 season real talks involving free agents can take place and a solution can be created.
The Waiting Game: This is a waiting game for all parties. The Wolves hope they can end up with Ricky at some point and have said they will wait out Ricky's contract if necessary. Rubio's camp hopes that the constant media pressure will force an action. The answer hear is either Flynn is traded or Rubio is traded. That's the hold up for the Wolves on this and with Summer League getting underway next week, we'll see how motivated the Wolves are to solve the problem, and Rubio's camp will simply have to wait this out.
What do you guys think?
I agree with the article completely. I can't blame Flynn or Rubio for being unhappy, I mean they both are pure PGs. No room for 2 starting PGs on the same team. Personally I believe Rubio likes the TWolves and would be a great fit there with Love & Jefferson already providing post help. Plus Minnesota drafted Norel (Rubios teammate)..so they are already friends. The logical move would be to trade Flynn. This seems to be the easiest thing to do as well. I believe Flynn will be traded in the next few weeks more than likely. When a team misses out on all the free agent PGs like Miller, Bibby, Sessions,etc.... they will come calling for Flynn. Also if the Wolves had their choice between the two I think they would rather keep Rubio. I'm sure there will be a handful of teams interested in trading for Flynn.
I would be mad if I was Flynn and Rubio too. They wont fit together. It was a bad idea from the start. And then they took Lawson, but lucky for him he was traded. Maybe there is alot of inside information, but why do all of this? If their stuck with both of them, they will have passed on other players without filling any needs.
The Timberwolves are in love with Rubio, and if they can get an agreement that Rubio will sign if they trade Flynn, then I think Flynn will be on the market. Here are some possible trades
Flynn to Toronto for DeMar DeRozen and a 2010 2nd. The Timberwolves need a SG, and Ellington would be able to put up 10+ points off the bench a game, which can win championships.
Flynn to the Warriors for Stephan Curry and a 2010 2nd. Again, the Timberwolves needa SG, and Curry was almost the choice. I think that the Warriors will want more, but I dont know what that would ve. Another team could go for it, but they will need a young player
Flynn, to Portland for Outlaw, and Bayless. just my suggestion i think it would help both teams.
I agree birdman....helps both teams
my suggestion is to portland too,but what about flynn a one of the next year 1st round picks(they´ve 3) for rudy,outlaw and whatever portland want to send like webster,minny have cap space and portland whant it,minny gets a sg and a sf and even a decent backup if webster is healthy and portland gets a pg,one 1st round pick for next year,i assume with some protections(better cause maybe they dont want 2 o 3 more rokkies next year and they have to resing roy and aldriged soon) and cap space for turkoglu.i´m sure lot of blazers fans are not going to swallow it if hedo is not garanteed,for minny they need to be sure that the buyout it solved but put rudy in the roster would help to have ricky sonner than later.
Rubio, and Bayless on the court on the same time would be a lot better than Flynn, and Rubio. plus the wolves get a decent wing player in Outlaw.
In Minnesota he would get ~3m + 500k for the buyout, JC Navarro makes about 3.8m(2.4m euros) NET(should be ~7m before taxes), so a rich Euro-Team could indeed buy Rubio out completely but there is one thing that is more important than salary:Advertising.Rubio could make big money in the right market and Minnesota is about the worst place for him in that regard(small market, few hispanics).If he can reduce his buyout dramatically he might consider going to Minnesota but as long as it is such a big financial gamble i doubt Fegan is gonna let him do that.
Why would Flynn want to go to Toronto and backup Calderon? He has a better chance of beating Rubio for the starting job with the wolves than beating Calderon. The Raptors need Derozan more than Flynn. I like the Portland idea.
seems to best especially the one with Rudy, to help convince Rubio as well as bring in a SG and a possible backup along with a good Small Forward.
Add Corey Brewer in the trade and it would be OK.