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Rondo Being Traded?

I just read on ESPN the the Celts are trying to trade Rondo because "they don't believe his point guard prowess is worth the headaches Rondo brings"

If this is true where are some possible destinations for him and what do you guys think the C's will get in return? I know Curry for Rondo has been discussed but i doubt this happens cause of his ankle problems.

I think the Pacers should try to put together a package to get Rondo. Something along the lines of Granger + Collison (Granger doesnt really fit C's needs so a third team might have to be involved). I think this will help the development of George and Hibbert and be good for the Pacers now and in the future.


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Trade Idea

This trade could happen if the Magic are really desperate to retain Howard, which I think they are, and if he would like to play with Rondo. I didn't want to make things too complicated so I just thought about a trade involving the two teams.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=7q6jadh

Why the Magic should make it:

Like I said, if Howard accepts to stay with Rondo in place, which could be a very good association given Rondo's passing skills (though he lacks a jump shot, he's still an elite creator and very good at getting to the basket), then Orlando will surely try to deal Rondo in so that's why this trade makes sense. Also, the salaries match well. The thing that might make them hesitate is giving in Anderson who is a very good shooter, but again if they have the opportunity to keep Howard they'll do it + Chris Wilcox is a decent replacement (look at his last performances) with Glen Davis at PF to finish the season.

Why the Celtics should make it:

In Jameer Nelson, the Celtics would get a decent replacement for Rondo, an experienced but still reasonably young player that was an All-Star only 3 years ago. Even though he is experiencing a rough season, he could be a viable solution until 2013 especially if the Celtics think they aren't contenders. By acquiring Ryan Anderson, the Celtics would basically get Kevin Garnett's replacement and Anderson, who is still young (turning 24 this year), has shown this year that he was a very good player. At last, in Daniel Orton they get a developing prospect who could turn out to be a very good player and who could get some playing time at C, at least more than he gets at Orlando, since the Celtics consider themselves as not being contenders this season. Last but not least, "they don't believe his point guard prowess is worth the headaches Rondo brings". However, the only main reason I wouldn't see the Celtics doing that trade is if they think they could sign Howard during free agency, either after they'd acquire him through trade or once he hits the free agent market, but this seems pretty unlikely as Howard said he didn't want to play for the Celtics earlier in the season.

What are your thoughts?

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a brief look into a Kings pipedream

1. Trade Jimmer, Thornton, Hickson, and Whiteside for Rondo.
2. Finally get lucky and have a top three pick to grab Barnes.
3. Manage to attract Dwight as a FA somehow.
4. Wake up and go eat breakfast...mmm...donuts...

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I'm baffled because you don't

I'm baffled because you don't just trade a top 5 PG away.

But at the same time I understand that he is the only piece the celtics have that is high in the trade value.

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If they are trying to trade

If they are trying to trade him then I have no idea why they keep talking about what a problem he is. Why would you want to hurt the value of the guy your trading by saying he causes everyone headaches?

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Crazy. Rondo gives you near

Crazy. Rondo gives you near max-contract level production but at a great $10 million a year price. You aren't going to get much back in a trade unless it is with some other team that maybe has got a problem player. Considering the Celtics don't really have any holes in their team except at center, it is hard to see how you can trade a point guard who is already great value and get better.

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Rondo

for thorton and rondo for granger are good trades but collison and Thorton have value in there producton in small contracts alone a bargin that rondo doesnt bring. So Financial if you have a situation like the kings have why take the risk.

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Trading Rondo is a turrible

Trading Rondo is a turrible idea. As stated before, b/c of his contract, his value is extremely high. He is not making top dollar for 3-4 more years and is playing top 5 PG ball. IDK what these "headaches" are; I've only seen positives from Rondo, well with exception to his J.

Unless u are getting more talent in return, trading him is not a very wise move with his contract situation.

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Thornton makes seven mil a year, not that much less than Rondo. I would love to see the Kings take a risk on a pure pg. Rondo would bring experience and better defense than Marcus, without losing to much of your main rotation. It could finally put and end to Tyreke playing at the 1.

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Rondo

I think the Celtics need to go ahead and blow it up. I think most of us would agree that Rondo is one of the top pgs, but I think it's been discussed quite a bit about some of his emotional issues. He got benched at Kentucky, Obama got in his head, and he seems like he's got some diva-ish tendencies. With that said, he seems to be a pretty hard guy to get a good deal for because he doesn't make anything near the other elite pgs. His one weakness (no shot) can hurt, but he does a lot of little things and makes everyone around him better. One trade I think both teams would consider is Cousins and Jimmer for Rondo. Maybe have Sacramento throw in a protected first rounder or have teams trade future firsts or something along those lines. Kings land an all star pg with a bargain contract to pair with their high scoring wings for their 3rd string pg and talented yet unstable big man. Celtics get a guy that gets tutored by some vets or at least Garnett depending on what moves they make and they take a chance on a young shooter.

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The Celtics arent to happy to

The Celtics arent to happy to be seeking offers for Rondo,a top 5 point guard,but his attitude has become almost unbearable...There have been several reports of this year of Rondo having run-ins with coach Rivers..And Rondo and Ainge have been fighting since Rondo's rookie year..They feel he's not the type of player you can build around,he's more of a complimentary piece and a great 1 at that...So why not see what trading him will bring back? Garnett & Ray Allen's contracts come off the books this summer and thats 30 million dollars they could use to go after free agents...

EDIT NOTE:Both the Lakers & Celtics have seem to slipped a little this season..But they still are capable of pulling off upsets in the playoffs...It wouldnt surprise anyone if 1 of them reached the Finals,they have the talented experienced guys that know how to get it done...But i doubt if both teams will make it....Becuz both teams lack of depth will force the starters to play more minutes...

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so here's a trade idea

if you get onto espn.com right now, the two teams they're guessing will make moves are boston and the jazz. the jazz have a dearth of front court players, boston are looking to move rondo. so, what about this:

Boston gets:

Al Jefferson

Gordon Hayward

(potentially, depending on how even you think the trade is) 2011 1st round pick

Utah gets:

Rajan Rondo

Jermaine O'Neal

(potentially, depending on how even you think the trade is) 2011 1st round pick

this is risky for Utah, because Rondo is the sort of ego that might never resign in Utah. But they get 6 million worth of cap relief and an all-star point guard. They could also trade their first rounder for one in the twenties.

Boston get a legit centre who loves the club, as well as a developing wing player, and potentially, a first rounder.

thoughts? or how could you make this basic jefferson-rondo trade work?

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@morestealsthanscores,If this

@morestealsthanscores,If this trade to Utah you purpose goes thru who plays pg for the Celtics?

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They'd probably trade Devin

They'd probably trade Devin Harris instead of Gordon Hayward

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Celts want a superstar for

Celts want a superstar for Rondo- they offered him for like Westbrook and Paul. They aren't trading him for Jefferson and Harris, at least not without significant picks.

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I've got news for Ainge and

I've got news for Ainge and Rivers. It is Rondo's team now and he is their best player on both sides of the floor. They can blame his supposed "bad attitude" and the "headaches he causes" but the fact is that he has NOT been the problem with this year's Celtics team. Championship-caliber teams do not have Brandon Bass and a washed-up Mickael Pietrus as their two best players off the bench. The Celtics do not have a starting- caliber center on their team anymore. Did I mention that their bench really really sucks, too? That is the main reason that they are in the bottom 5 in scoring in the NBA. Every member of the big three is avergaing their lowest ppg totals since their rookie seasons as well.

For them to trade Rondo, it would have to be for either Steph Curry(and maybe some other pieces) or Russell Westbrook( other pieces from the Celtics to balance the salaries). Considering how the Thunder are the best team in the NBA, I think they would be reluctant do trade Westbrook- despite all the hoopla about him being a ball-hog and being a poor teammates and such. Who knows, Ainge is so unpredictable that he might even trade for Monta Ellis and let Avery Bradley start so that they can have a scoring spark offf the bench. Myabe the Lakers will even get in on the action and offer Pau Gasol in a package......

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The Celtics offered Rondo to

The Celtics offered Rondo to the Warriors for Curry and the Warriors declined. I thought that was interesting.

Rondo to the Jazz is a great idea and if the Jazz offered say Burks and Favors they could probably get him easily with that offer. This gives the Jazz a great PG to build around they're low post threats and the Celtics get some youth to develop under they're hall of famers. They would go back to Avery Bradley at the PG.

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I like the Burks and Favors

I like the Burks and Favors idea but if I were the Jazz instead of Favors I would trade Kanter. I still think Favors is gonna have a great career especially with a pg like Rondo getting him easy looks. I think Kanter is gonna be decent but Favors will be better. This is assuming the C's want young talent instead of a proven superstar.

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When I first heard this story, all I could imagine was the Big 3 going to Ainge and explaining how much limited time was left with them to make one or two championship runs before they retired. Seems like they are geared to get one more player in to fill the void that they have to compete. Ironically, they are weak at the center position.

Pau Gasol has been on the market for a few weeks. Rondo for Gasol has been rumbling for about two months. Granted, Pau is a PF, but he can definitely play C with Garnett. Rondo hates the Lakers, but what do you do when the team you constantly take hits for, nearly rip your arm out socket for, and gets thrown under the bus by the GM says you are a "headache"?

Rondo COULD possibly make his way to LA. But it all is pending what each front office wants for their franchises. Many say that Gasol is old and declining, but so is Pierce, Allen, and Garnett. Maybe LA throws in Darius Morris and Ebanks or gets a third team involved to make it an even deal.

I don't know if this trade happens, but if it does, and that's a BIG IF then I wouldn't be surprised.

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Celtics-Lakers

When I first heard this story, all I could imagine was the Big 3 going to Ainge and explaining how much limited time was left with them to make one or two championship runs before they retired. Seems like they are geared to get one more player in to fill the void that they have to compete. Ironically, they are weak at the center position.

Pau Gasol has been on the market for a few weeks. Rondo for Gasol has been rumbling for about two months. Granted, Pau is a PF, but he can definitely play C with Garnett. Rondo hates the Lakers, but what do you do when the team you constantly take hits for, nearly rip your arm out socket for, and gets thrown under the bus by the GM says you are a "headache"?

Rondo COULD possibly make his way to LA. But it all is pending what each front office wants for their franchises. Many say that Gasol is old and declining, but so is Pierce, Allen, and Garnett. Maybe LA throws in Darius Morris and Ebanks or gets a third team involved to make it an even deal.

I don't know if this trade happens, but if it does, and that's a BIG IF then I wouldn't be surprised.

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I would take Granger and Collison in a second.

Don't believe Indy would do it though. The Gasol thing I really think we can bury that rumor. Not going to happen.

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Celtics have he highest fg% in the L

They don't board and that is why they don't score enough. Not enough shot attempts period. They suck on the Defensive glass and it cost them a title and got them knocked out twice. They turn it over a ton and that means less shot attempts. Check your stats their bench is strong scoring but they lack rebounding and too many TO's.

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I don't foresee the Jazz as a

I don't foresee the Jazz as a team willing to part from their young guys.

If the Celtics want to make a deal with the Jazz they're probably going to get Paul Millsap and some other stuff. The C's are is the position of paying large amount of luxury tx. They don't want to take a lot back. The Jazz have a large trade exception from the Okur deal.

How about Millsap and the trade exception for Rondo and O'neal. That alieviates the tx burden for the C's and gives them an asset in Millsap who's only making 7M/yr.

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they not getting a superstar

they not getting a superstar for rondo

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Are you serious with Paul

Are you serious with Paul Milsap for Rondo? An undersized overachieving PF for a top 5 PG which is the most important position in the league?

Milsap has been a beast this year and even inexplicably made it onto ESPN MVP voting but we're talking about Rondo here.

And the Jazz have to make a choice. Are they rebuilding or competing? Getting Rondo for half your rebuilding assets allows you to do both at a higher level. Rondo would do wonders for the Jazz. There aren't any PG's in the next few drafts as good as him and they certainly aren't going to sign one so why not trade for a franchise PG if the chance presents itself?

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If Indiana made the trade I

If Indiana made the trade I would try get Ray Allen along with Rondo.

Celtics: O'Neal Garnett Granger Pierce Collison

Pacers: Hibbert West George Allen Rondo

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how does this look

harris, kanter, burks and a pick

for

rondo, and wilcox

the celtics get younger and deeper and the jazz get star power at the one while keeping their star bigs and favors

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Yeah I dont think they get a star for him

Maybe a first round pick and a big. If he is a rumored headcase no one is giving up much

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Yeah I dont think they get a star for him

Maybe a first round pick and a big. If he is a rumored headcase no one is giving up much

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Jazz, Celtics, Pacers trade

Let me get this through all your heads, the Jazz are not trading any of their young pieces. None. They drafted them all for a reason. They liked them, they all have all star potential, so stop with the trading of Kanter, Favors, Burks and Hayward.

I liked the person who brought up the idea of the Pacers trading Collison and Granger for Rondo. The problem is Pierce is playing SF and therefore Granger wouldn't fit there. Do you want him to start at PF and have KG play Center? I don't think that would work out too well. A third team joining the trade would be best. The Jazz could be that third team and offer Jefferson for Pierce.

Having a veteran all star on the Jazz would help Hayward and the rest of the youngsters really grow and become the all stars they can be. Hayward can slide to the two while Howard, Bell, and Burks come off the bench. Favors and Kanter can duel it out for the starting Center. Now they just need to get Harris out of there and get a pure point guard like Calderon to further help Hayward and rest of the youngsters grow.

The C's get a Center that started his career there. He does like it in Utah, but I think he would welcome going back to the team that drafted him. With this trade they aren't forced to start Bradley. Another reason why the C's are open to trading Rondo is because they likely will not win the championship this year so they want to start the rebuilding process now and they don't want to build around Rondo. This also means the C's will likely break up their big 3 as well. Jefferson would be a nice piece to bring in. They might end up building around both Jefferson and Granger.

The Pacers have the opportunity to start George at the 3 and have a pure PG who can help George and Hibbert become even better players. All they need is a two. (find that guy through the draft in Buford, or Jenkins, or Doron Lamb)

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pierce

i dont think the celtics will just trade him. he wants to end his career in boston

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If i were the Utah Jazz i

If i were the Utah Jazz i would jump on this oppurtunity. They should definately move one of their big men as they have Jefferson Millsap Kanter Favors and even Evans depending on what you think of him. They also have young swigmen like Hayward and Burks with a ton of potential. Not to mention they have two lottery picks.

Utah has so many valuable pieces im really not sure why they dont try for one of the big name options.

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ok

so, mixed reaction to a jazz trade. and i definately made an oversight without including a PG in return, had been playing around with multiple trades.

judging by all the feedback and discussion, a package of harris/jefferson/trade exception/first rounder (highest of GS and Utah picks) for rondo, with jermaine o'neill and chris wilcox balancing the salaries, sounds closer.

Utah go out Rondo, Bell, Hayward, Millsap and Favors, with Kanter, Evans, Howard and Miles all coming off the bench.

Celtics go Harris, Allen, Pierce, Garnett, Jefferson, with Bradley, Pietrus and Bass, and a first rounder that should fall in the 8-10 spot.

Again, risk for Utah if they don't get Rondo to resign, but if they can get a decent wing guy with their own late-lottery spot, and the youngsters continue to develop, it could be an interesting place for Rondo to play, and more importantly to him, be 'the man'. Celtics get younger and deeper and this trade would definately help them transition onwards from the big 3.

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Would a Monta Ellis for Al

Would a Monta Ellis for Al Jefferson + Utahs 1st rd be fair?

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Rondo and Maruis Daniels for

Rondo and Maruis Daniels for Darren Collison and Paul George.

George would serve as the backup SF for now but after 2 years he will step in for Pierce and be a top 5 SF eventually.

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Rondo is arguably a top 5 PG

Rondo is arguably a top 5 PG at only $10 mil a year, that is a bargain. They will never equal value in return if they decide to trade him. Unless they get a superstar player in return, which I highly doubt.

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No way only a Jazz fan would

No way only a Jazz fan would think the Celtics want any part of Devin Harris and Al Jefferson for Rondo. For starters Harris makes a ton of money and isn't playing well at all this year. The Celtics would be better off paying Bradley 8 million less to put up 9 and 5 a game. The Celtics looked fine with Bradley starting and wouldn't take on Harris' contract just to fill in a PG position. If they trade Rondo they are rebuilding and you don't rebuild by taking on large contracts from average players.

If the Celtics trade Rondo they are going to want Blue Chip prospects back in the deal if they can't get a superstar. The Jazz would have to trade either Favors or Kanter and Burcs or Hayward. But that's more then worth it to get a PG of Rondo's calibur.

Do you realize how much better Rondo is going to make the remaining young players on that team? If they're able to still miss the playoffs and keep both lotto picks then they can fill back up with the likes of Terrence Ross and Tyler Zeller.

going into next year Rondo, Ross, Hawyard, Milsap, Jefferson, with Favors and Zeller off the bench would be a great team for the present and future.

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@ doubledribbler

If the celtics don't like Rondo's attitude, why would they want Cousins? I have to give a negative for that idea.

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The Pacers have been trying

The Pacers have been trying to acquire Rondo on the low for awhile now... IF Bird can pull it off, the Pacers will really be back in business.

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Boston trades: Rondo,

Boston trades: Rondo, Jermaine O Neal
Indiana trades: Granger, Collison
Utah trades: Al Jefferson

Boston gets: Al Jefferson, Darren Collison
Indiana gets Rondo Jermaine
Utah gets: Danny Granger

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im saying Rondo is a good pg

im saying Rondo is a good pg but finding a good sg is harder then finding a good pg

Thorton is top 10 sg in the league like it or not stat wise hes good. You take a productive player like him away from a losing kings and the rondo doesnt work out there the kings are worse then before.

....and we all know if it wasnt for the insane amout of money K.G makes rondo would of had a bigger contract but being the type of person he is he took less to benifit the teams cap room.

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The Jazz can offer way more

The Jazz can offer way more than any other team, but a couple red flags might make them blink on some of these trades. How coachable will Rondo be under a new coach like Corbin? Will Rondo be willing to resign in 2015? Not huge red flags, but they might just prefer to look to the 2013 free agent PG pool.

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Trading Rondo..

Trading Rondo is blowing it up alright, in a bad way. He is the only player with real tread left on the tires in terms of the starters and is signed for 3 more years after this one. Bradley is a very capable backup especially if he improves his jump shot. JaJuan Johnson is the long term KG replacement at PF who really should be playing more right now based on the Celtics record. They should be able to fill in good players at SG and Center (which is probably their biggest need) through free agency and the draft and then eventually at SF to replace Pierce.

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If the Pacers could get Rondo

If the Pacers could get Rondo then they become even better right away but I still don't see the logic in Boston trading their best player. I wonder if this could run into the summer as there are a load of veteran PG's hitting FA so if the Celtics could nab one of them short term they could maybe move Rondo on for a quality big man. And there will be follow ons from whatever Deron and Dwight decide to do.

With Boston looking for frontcourt depth and the Lakers looking to make moves, could something involving Rondo and Gasol maybe happen with a 3rd team involved as the two biggest historical rivals doing a trade might be a step too far.

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big 3 last push

I'd like to see a 3 team deal with Indy, Boston, and Nohla

Boston sends: Rondo and O'neal

Nohla sends: Kaman, Ariza, and Gordon

Indy sends: Picks, Granger, Foster, Hill, Collison, and Stephenson

Boston recieves: Picks, Kaman, Foster, Stephenson, and Collison

Collison - Allen - Pierce - Garnett- Kaman

Bradley - Stephenson - Pietrus - Johnson - Foster

Why? They get a future point guard and get a starting center for there last playoff run with the big 3

Nohla recieves: Granger and Hill

Hill - Belinelli - Granger - Landry - Okafor

Jack / Vasquez - Henry - Aminu - Ayon - Smith

Why? Gordon and Kaman are going to be gone. Hill would be the point guard of the future and Granger can be the star of the team.

Indy recieves: O'neal, Ariza, Gordon (injured), and Rondo

Rondo - George - Ariza - West - Hibbert

Price - Jones - free agent - Hansbrough - O'neal

Why? They would have a great future with Rondo, EJ, George, and Hibbert

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