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Ricky Rubio Myths

Unless you have scouted Ricky Rubio extensively for an NBA team, or watch Spanish League basketball regularly, I would like to ask that you refrain from writing any of the following about Ricky Rubio:
- He can't shoot
- He is not athletic
- He is not good on defense
- Quoting his Euroleague stats
You can say that he will be a bust, but please have some reasoning behind it other than the aforementioned arguments, because you really don't know any of that to be true. You just assume it to be true because he is skinny, white, plays in Europe, and doesn't throw down enough windmill dunks for your liking in his Youtube clips.


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Ricky is magic

Ricky is magic
Ricky hace cosas que nadie ha visto sobre una pista de basket, no creo que haya muchos jugadores de los que se pueda decir esto.

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Steve Nash 2.0

Ricky Rubio is going to be a better version of Steve Nash. Rubio is bigger and a better defensive player than Nash.

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So your telling me he is gonna come into the league and after about 7 or 8 years he gonna get back to back mvps average over 17 point 11 assists shoot 50% from the field 45% 3 pointer and 90% from the stripe with 3 rebounds a game and be instrumental in running a team and being a shoe in for hall of fame and one of the 2 best pgs in the past decade other one is jason kidd. You got be joking me first of all he is 18 he isnt going a against the best competition thats already known. Those are not nba players and the ball that we play in america is different, Its a more physical fast pace game dominated by superstars with more of an emphasis on athleticism on pure skill alone. Thats one of the reasons alot NCAA players go to the league and are shaken and cant cut it. Ricky Rubio 2.0 hahahah thats a joke. My nigga Brandon Jennings will make rubio look like dumb. And once Jennings get his head rite and if he is able to add weight and or strenghth also like rubio needs to do he will at least be a good pg to an all star. Enuff said

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So your telling me he is gonna come into the league and after about 7 or 8 years he gonna get back to back mvps average over 17 point 11 assists shoot 50% from the field 45% 3 pointer and 90% from the stripe with 3 rebounds a game and be instrumental in running a team and being a shoe in for hall of fame and one of the 2 best pgs in the past decade other one is jason kidd. You got be joking me first of all he is 18 he isnt going a against the best competition thats already known. Those are not nba players and the ball that we play in america is different, Its a more physical fast pace game dominated by superstars with more of an emphasis on athleticism on pure skill alone. Thats one of the reasons alot NCAA players go to the league and are shaken and cant cut it. Ricky Rubio 2.0 hahahah thats a joke. My nigga Brandon Jennings will make rubio look like dumb. And once Jennings get his head rite and if he is able to add weight and or strenghth also like rubio needs to do he will at least be a good pg to an all star. Enuff said

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So your telling me he is gonna come into the league and after about 7 or 8 years he gonna get back to back mvps average over 17 point 11 assists shoot 50% from the field 45% 3 pointer and 90% from the stripe with 3 rebounds a game and be instrumental in running a team and being a shoe in for hall of fame and one of the 2 best pgs in the past decade other one is jason kidd. You got be joking me first of all he is 18 he isnt going a against the best competition thats already known. Those are not nba players and the ball that we play in america is different, Its a more physical fast pace game dominated by superstars with more of an emphasis on athleticism on pure skill alone. Thats one of the reasons alot NCAA players go to the league and are shaken and cant cut it. Ricky Rubio 2.0 hahahah thats a joke. My nigga Brandon Jennings will make rubio look like dumb. And once Jennings get his head rite and if he is able to add weight and or strenghth also like rubio needs to do he will at least be a good pg to an all star. Enuff said

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Who has done better

Who has done better overseas, Rubio or Jennings?

'NUFF SAID

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of course rubio has done better overseas..hes played euro basketball all his life..its a different game..jennings game is better fit for the nba game and thats what really matters...nuff said

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Ricky Rubio

Nice, everyone is so down on Rubio. Just wait, he'll be great.

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I dont know

I like Rubio. But what if he is like the other oversea guys who are highly touted but never lives up? I mean yea he will play PG but can he be quick enough to run with Monta Ellis, CP3 and Rondo? Can he stand his ground against Rose, D-Will and Billups and others? I dont know.

Also, people are projecting him to be top 5. Youre expecting to be one of top 5 PGin the next 3-5 years

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What you expect the ppl to say???

If they cant say the things above, then what can you say? Everybody doesnt have to think he is good! I think he isnt going to be a good player, and the reasons I dont are because of the things you said we couldnt mention. Except for the YouTube thing and the white part. Thats just like saying dont talk about Rajon Rondo not having a good jump shot. He doesnt have any other weaknesses so what would there be to talk about??

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Yo Bfresh2Death & QHaynes123

Yo Bfresh2Death:
What was Steve Nash doing when he was 17 years old?? I don't think he was busting Derron Williams and Jason Kidd ass in the Olympics. This kid is only 18 years old and he already has the passing skills of a Nash or Kidd, imagine what he will do 7 to 8 years from now. I don't think Steve Nash was that good at his age.
When he adds strength and works on his jump shot, he will be very dangerous.

Yo QHaynes123:
You say he can't run with D-Will and CP3?? Did you watch the Olympics?? He was running with them, some of the times they couldn't run with him and he was only 17 years old. He made Jason Kidd look foolish at times.

Ricky Rubio will be a beast in the NBA, just watch.

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U rite Steve Nash wasnt that good at the same age

he just damn near averaged a triple double in highschool i mean if ur really good u should average a quadruple tripple dbl dbl....wit cheese"Nash almost averaged a triple-double with 21.3 points, 11.2 assists, and 9.1 rebounds per game." thats a quote on the stats for visually and mentally impaired" he got his number retired in college and was selected 15 in the draft...the only thing and i mean only thing rubio got on nash is maybe...maybe defense...and jkidd guy not hitting the trey ball... well i mean he just shot 40% plus from the 3 point line the past 2 years and is a carrer 34% 3 shooter which is actually good...for the dumb ppl out there u need to hit between 29 and 30 percent for it to equal 2 pointers for the percentages,,,,and jkidd is 50 guarennteed rubio wont have the stats kidd has right now and jkidd is a dinosaur id be surprised if he averages over ten points not a chance in hell he averages 5 rebounds and sure as hell wont average 9 assists...yall prolly dont understand is the hardest position to play in the nba and rubio will learn this fast. Im not sayin he cant become a great player or he doesnt have potential but he doesnt have nash offensive prowess or j kidd rebounding.....Derrick Rose will send him pack Yousoftia europe....once again NUFFFF SAIDD

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when did he exactly busy kidd and pauls ass?..you cant just make up stuff to make a player sound good...HE HAD 6PTS 3 AST 2 TUNROVERS against them so when did he bust there ass?????????

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rubio not defensive player!!!!

I see many times ricky rubio played and I say he is a elite defensive player.
Also you said "he can't shoot"
How many players americans have no shoot when they arrived in NBA: a lot of
for example: Rajon rondo , jason kidd, andre miller, ramon sessions, tony parker,etc.....

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jason kidd couldnt hit a 3 if his life depended on it

and hes below average on d and not athletic, john stockton wasnt a great athlete either but he's the best pg ever beside magic so obviously these qualities arent as important as ballhandling and leadership and passing something rubio has plus from what ive heard he's a better shooter and athlete then the first 2 HOF's i mentioned

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I never said

I never said he couldn't im questioning if he can constantly handle the waves of great PG's in the league today

in short terms

can he play Billups on monday and then Rose on tuesday? Can he run with Rondo and D-will? The question about him to me is can he constantly play these guys every 2-5 nights and still produce?

I watched the olympics. He is good. I would take him over Jennings. BUT even some of the best PG's needed time to stick in the NBA

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And i missed this part

who isint running past J-Kidd in the NBA today. In 2000, running past Kidd sounded crazy. 2008? Sounds like a given for most young PG's to run past Kidd

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My thing is to the comment

My thing is to the comment that he can't handle taking on NBA points day in day out. He has been playing against grown men for a while and he started young. Most of the skilled European players that were good before they came to the NBA do well. The ones that were bust did not even play good overseas. It was all hype based on potential. Rubio has skills and made potential. It is all good to support the American player but look if someone is good then they are good. Also it took Steve Nash sometimes to get to All Star Status and even MVP status. He was said to be too slow coming out of Santa Clara. He played behind Jason Kidd and Kevin Johnson. He showed some good signs but did not really excel until after he was traded or either he signed with Dallas. I forget which. Rubio is comparable to Steve Nash in his prime so he continues to progress, it is only natural that he exceeds him considering he is bigger and more athletic than Steve Nash now and also he actual plays some D. All the arguments you make about Rubio can be made about Steve Nash.

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You can't say anything about him then, because you honestly don't know that stuff. It's based purely on hearsay (mostly from messageboards like this) and speculation.
If you've never seen him play except on Youtube, you can't sit here and say "he can't shoot, he can't play defense and he's not athletic" because you don't know that. Your critiques carry no weight, and anyone who is reading this should skip that post and defer to the opinions of true NBA scouts.

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couldn't agree more cthao9

people who think rubio isn't going to make it in the league should at least give him a chance huh? i mean, did you guys not see him in the olympics? he was going against some of our best players and he held his own, and considering he wasnt supposed to be the starting pg for that team (its Calderon) you guys should give him at least a couple years. he's never gonna exceed his hype, but i can honestly say he's more than capable of being a all-star

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Was this past olympics the

Was this past olympics the first time most of you have seen international competition? I'm not trying to antagonize, but have any of you ever seen Carlos Arroyo play USA in those games before? He pretty much dominates. What about Patty Mills? He apparently was very good against Paul and Williams also. I saw Rubio play in the Olympics also and he looked very good for his age. He looked more smart than anything though; I want to see if his combination of quickness and shooting is enough to be a NBA effective lead guard(able to run the offense through). If he's not, and he's just going to be great in the open court, than I would rather have Ty Lawson. He's 6 million bucks cheaper and a lock to be atleast a good scorer and great open court player.

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Personally I have never seen

Personally I have never seen the kid play except fot the Olympics but the Olympics doesn't count (see Patt Mills)... But my concern about Rubio is twofold since he is arguably the most hyped point guard prospect to come into the league since Magic, all the point gaurds will be licking there chops and they will go at him HARD (no doubt he will have a target on his back) and im wondering how he will handle that confidence wise. Becasue from all accounts ive heard he hasnt really faced adversity on the baskeball court (and people are sleeping on the upgrade in competition he is going to be facing). And I am wondering how he will handle the Amerincan culture (people always talk about how its diffrent overseas so naturally it going to be diffrent in America. And I another worry I have about him is his experience talking to the media (our media can be overwhelming) Plus anytime a person says a european player is a good defensive player I question that how many good european defenders has came in the league......

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european defenders

pietrus
kirilenko
batum
etc....

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I hope Rubio does well but I

I hope Rubio does well but I feel like he is coming into the league with alot of hype and personally I cant wait to see him play in the NBA... Jooks FYI: Pietrus is an overrated defender and he has been that way seen he got drafted by the Warriors, Kirilenko was a GREAT defender his first 3 or 4 years but latley I think he has been living off of reputation.... Batum has POTENTIAL to be an elite defender but I dont believe he is quite there as yet. But the point I was trying to make is that Europeans are known to be good defender...

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watch the videos, please, and then talk about ricky

Good examples about ricky...

Ricky Rubio Show...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12FOZsjWxwk&feature=fvst

16years old:
http://acbtv.acb.com/video/616

15 years old: In a european sub-16 final with a spanish team (51 points, 24 rebounds, 12 assist, 7 steals... and this play...)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c29ii3McOYI

In a game...
http://acbtv.acb.com/video/1247

The last comment:
He was 14 years old when he began to play in ACB (the spanish league)... his stats, that year, in ACB:
23.3 points, 12.8 rebounds, 7.1 assists and 6,5 steals!

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"Ricky conoció a Michael Jordan en 2005. Michael quedó impresionado por la manera de jugar del crack de El Masnou. Un año después fue el gran Larry Bird el que conoció a Ricky, y viéndolo jugar dijo: “Pensaba que era imposible que ese muchacho pudiera tener 15 años. Es inverosímil su manejo del tiempo” .

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lol

its funny people keep saying he killed in the olympics when he averaged 4pts and 3ast and a couple of turnovers....so now thats killing in the olympics??? and 6pts and 3ast is also killing these days...man so jordan farmer and jj reddick must be killing in the nba

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people need to stop

people need to stop confusing explosiveness with athleticism.he is athletic.he's a friggin basketball player.does he have a great first step? no.can he jump out the gym?no.he's not explosive.but he is athletic.

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I know right

Sun Yue from China had scouts buzzing over him at 6'9 as a potential point guard.. the scouts for the Lakers (the team that drafted him) was callin him the next Magic Johnson...SUN YUE, NEXT MAGIC JOHNSON..?? Sun Yue couldnt even see the light of day in the D-League this year. Dont get all excited off of the olympics, they arent a great way to scout. Like my man said above, look at Carlos Arroyo. He was in the league for a minute off of his Olympic performance, but he isnt playin anymore. Judgin a prospect off the Olympics is like judging a prospect off of an NCAA tournament run (see Kirk Synder, Tyrus Thomas and other underachieving one hit wonders)

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european defenders

nocioni
ginobili
they are argentins but they played many years in europe

Noah is a good defender
turiaf (4ème for blocks)
diawara (heat) play for his defense
pau and marc gasol

when rubio play against USA,he defends on top elite guards (paul,williams,kidd) and he has no problem against them

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lol..nocioni is aggressive he isnt a great defender noah went to his jr high in the u.s.a paul and marc arent great defenders either..an rubio didnt have no problems against the usa guards...so you basically saying he will have no prolems against williams and paul in the nba?....i watched his regular season game against chris thomas and tarq dean and he had big problems aginst them..lol

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Ginobili is a good defender

Ginobili is a good defender but isnt he from Argentina. Nocioni is an agressive player like Josh said but I wouldnt call him one of the better defenders in the league. Pau and Marc Gasol are adequate defenders, Noah played ball in America, Turiaf played ball in America at Gonzaga and Diawara is a decent defender I guess (personally he is overrated to). Rubio will have his PLATE FULL guarding the NBA PG's trust me he will have a whole lot of problems. The elite point guards in the NBA cant even guard each other...

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deffense isn´t the problem...

For all that say that Rubio will get deffensive problems... forget it... maybe he won´t be the best deffender... but he can defend as good as 90% of PG in NBA. If he has problems that will come because he is not an scorer PG, and in NBA, the game is basically a question of individual numbers. The team isn´t the most important in NBA; specially in bad teams; all players are looking for good numbers and a better contract... and if he is not scoring a lot... maybe his coach will not give then minutes... even if he is playing good games in assists, steals... You only have to see what Nate McMillan does in Portland... (That will do my nephew 4 years old...)

I have to say that here in Europe, Batum, Pietrus or Turiaf are nobody... and when they went to NBA weren´t top players by far... simply average players in Europe... the same that Milicic, well Darko even less; here people didn´t know him because he was playing in an average serbian team... so don´t compare them with Ricky, that´s absurd.

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He well be an allstar

I watched Rubio in the Olympics, he looked like a seasoned vet. Playing and competing with the best the NBA has to offer, man to man with CP3, D-Williams, D-Wade and Kobe.Any 17 year old who can compete with them and give them a run for their money is a no brainer all star in the future. I can only hope the Timberwolves are lucky enough to draft him.

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rubio

You say that the European are not good defenseurs but it is a picture. We can say also that they are soft!
the others european guard: like TP,calderon,sergio rodriguez,etc.....
They have no problem for defense, them are correct and it puts no problem!
for his defense: best stealer in european league (best competition with NBA) which a 20minutes average at 18 years old!

the scouts are professionnal and if they have a doubt They not the puts not as possible choice in the first ones

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NBA Scouts

Like I said, NBA scouts have Mr. Rubio rated as the #2 prospect in the draft. I believe they know much more about him than any of you do.
You guys who are speculating that he won't be good are clearly biased against European players, and keep mentioning these made-up weaknesses.
Rubio was a top prospect before the Olympics. He didn't dominate the Olympics, but he certainly held his own against NBA-level competition as a 17 year-old. Perhaps Jennings would have done the same, but as I said in a different topic, 99 out of 100 NBA scouts would take Rubio over Jennings.
That is the only point of this post. Rubio may well end up being a bust, but it won't be because of any of the reasons the Rubio detractors have mentioned here.

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NBA scouts can be wrong,

NBA scouts can be wrong, thats why some players get drafted WAY to high... Personally I hope he does WELL, but of course people are going to question his ability to play in the NBA (Americans always questions forgein imports lol). ch15r36is personally im no questioning Rubio's skill but I want to see how he handles the mental aspect of the game and his change of scenery.... Im speculating about Rubio, but I like European players becasue the usually come over here with HIGH BBALL IQ's and most are excellent shooters (but some have the mentality to play in the NBA and some dont)

1. How will he respond to adversity on the baskeball court (not being the BEST player/diffrent style of basketball)?
2. How will he handle the Amerincan culture?
3. How will be handle talking to the media (which can be cruel)?
4. Can he play defense aganist the top points in the NBA (That will be going at him HARD)?

Are these not legit questions about Rubios ability to be a star in the NBA??

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Katastrophe...

My friend... I think that you haven´t seem much european basketball... you can say that he can get problems with the athletism in the NBA... that could be (I don´t think so... but... could be...), but you must know that here, in europe, in top leagues and countries, the pressure is much more than in the 75% of NBA teams... in europe almost all the matches are important because the competition is shorter... and your team can loose its division if they don´t have a number of victories... the media are hard too (although here they are looking more at soccer, that´s true), and in the gyms the people is very very very hard with the away teams (have you ever seen a game in Greece... or Turkey... or former Yugoeslavia... or Israel...?)

I mean... european top players are used to play under pressure... even more... probably the problem will be just the opposite... they don´t like to play "for nothing" 72 games in a season (see Memphis, Thunder... a lot of teams wich have nothing to do from the first two months...)... that´s something that here couldn´t happen... that´s very frustrating for some european players... that happened to Pau in Memphis and will happen to Marc... (that´s why Juan Carlos Navarro decide to return to Barcelona after a good rookie year in Memphis... he was absolutly bored... and he had seem that he could play there if he wanted... I supose money was a reason too, ahaha...). Well, they play 72 games only thinking about making good numbers to be trade and escape from there... They don´t like to see how most of their mates play only for theirselves and not for the team... The american culture is quite more individualist and it is difficult for colective players to get used to that...

About not being the best player in the court... that would be a problem for players from university or high school that are used to play with kids, with less athletic and BB skills... "they play alone"... but Ricky? he´s playing against better players than him from 15...

Forget deffensive problems for Rubio... that is a myth... deffense is his best skill.

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Paquichin, your right I

Paquichin, your right I dont see much european basketball and based on what your saying I beleive Rubio should have a really good chance to make it the league. I cant wait to see Rubio perform in the NBA (it should be intresting).... How long are the seasons in Europe???

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Katastrophe...

In Europe the seasons are as long as in the NBA, they ussually start later and finish later too, but here the teams play less games... only 2 games against each team (in Spanish ACB, 18 teams, 36 games), the best 8 go to play-offs... apart from this, there are other competition for the top teams of each country: Euroleague (4 from Spain, 3 from Italy, 3 from Greece, Russia, Israel, Serbia, Croatia...etc), They play this Euroleague almost each week; so top teams in Europe ussually play 2 games per week; the 4 best in Euroleague play the final four.

Moreover, in mid season there is another important competition: the cup (in Spain: The King´s cup) wich is played by the best 8, in a weekend and in a city, a kind of final eight.

So, in Europe a top team plays his national competitions (League and Cup) and the european competition (Euroleague for the tops, but there are other continental competitions for other teams).

Boffa, of course, I agree what you mean... a high school player that can play in NBA ussually will do thriple doubles... ok... I was talking about playing under pressure... and playing against better players than you... and in HS that doesn´t exist for stars... I don´t mean that they are worse because of this. I only say that Rubio is used to that.

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I like his chances

Numbers not withstanding, I thought he looked like the real deal in the olympics. I thought Rudy Fernandez was real deal too and he fit right in with the Blazers this season. He's not a superstar but he has proven himself to be a solid NBA player with the potential to improve. I know Rubio has more hype behind him and more will be expected of him especially since he will be a lottery pick and probably the first point guard off the board but I dont see why he cant come in and contribute in a similar fashion (I'm talking his impact not his game, I know he and Rudy are two different type players). If he lands on the right squad (knicks) he might even meet some of his outlandish expectations.

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as far as i see it, if

as far as i see it, if you're an NBA caliber player you damn well better almost average a triple double in HIGH SCHOOL. you realize how rediculous that is? Do you know how bad most high school players are? The high caliber high school phenoms sometimes explode for 60-70 points these days. Seriously, BJ mullens in High School looked like the second coming of Wilt Chamberlain (dominance wise). And what happened in College? nothing. He was average at best. This just shows you the enormous jump in talent. So to say that Nash is so much better because he averaged a triple double in High school is not getting it done for me. Did Nash play professionally in Europe since the age of 16? No.

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thats just plain biased to say he wont have problems on dfense in the nba..at first i respected what u say but that there is just biased..even top rookies have defense of problems in the nba reguardless of where they are from..will he adjust yeas but he will not come in and be a good defender from start ..you even alluded to it by saying the pgs are more into individual stats and the guards over in europe arent so hes not even used to playing against a point guard whos thinking of going for 30..as a matter of fact how can you say hes gonna be a good defender from jump when he hasnt had to guard a pg in his life that is as good as chris paul, deron williams or even mo williams...come now youre losing points with me with that..and as far as the other guy who said there are peopel who just dont like euro that is tru in alot of cases..my opinion is based on seeing him play a couple times and i never said hes gonna be garbae..i said he has flaws and you cant say hes gonna do great from start just because of what he does in his leauge and in the olympics esspecial in the olympics beause alot of players play well who wouldnt do much in the nba...my thing is you cant just say hes gonna be a star when he plays in awhole different leauge and a whole different system..and for the dummies who constantly say he killed the usa and killed in the olympics...averaging 4pts and 3 ast in the olympics is not killing..getting 6pts and 4 reb against the usa is not killing also..averaging 9.7pts and 5.7 ast on a team thats 19-10 is not KILLING..hes good and has potential but saying hes just gonna step in and be a great this or great that is just absurd...what pg in history has ever done that?...youre saying hes on par right now at this moment that he is on par with whoever that is..absurd

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by the way i like euro playersive played against alot in my years of player bball in europ and have learned alot from the players..some have been some of the best players ive ever played against alot though would have a very hard time int he nab just like alot of nba players would have hard times over there because the style is different and its more of a team game..you drive to find a open shot for others more then you driver to get a shot for youre self..as far as jennings hes not killing over there but thoses who know euro ball wasnt expecting him to kill cuz thats not what the team is about unless youre playing in asia where the team expects you to score 30 a game..but jennings has gotten better and hs learned alot from there so when he does happen to come to the nba hes gonna be alot better then when he left....back to euros...im a big laker fan and luv paul gasol but im also a realest gasol is very soft..he is very good but he is also soft..even though his game isnt a power game..if you wathc though he tend sto have issues when someone hits his hand or hits his arms he loses the ball a lil too easy then flings his arms everywhere and whines.....now saying all that i still like his game and dont confuse someone being soft as the same as not being good cuz thats not the case

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My friend Josh, I agree with

My friend Josh, I agree with you in 99%.

I don´t think he is gonna be a star from the first year... maybe he will never be... Who knows... ? but I think that his big problem won´t be the deffense, because he can be an average good defender in NBA... I watch his game today, 9 points, 8 rebounds, 10 assists. I think that these will be his numbers (more or less) there if he has minutes.

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oh ok..yeah i agree..i know i may sound like i dont think hes gonna be good or great but thats not the case..im just saying from what ive seen i think he has the POTENTIAL to be very good maybe even great my thing is with the people who have never seen him play other than highlights or the olympics and automatically say hes gonna be great or worst even great from day one esspecially with all the great pgs int he nba...i remeber a couple years back i said the same thing about a guy i played against called t something splitter who everyone was jumping on the bandwagon when i came back to america though i think rubio has alot more potential then he did...but yeah i think once he adjust then he has a chance to do pretty good things maybe even great but its will take a min because of the change of the game.....as far as wall i cant say too much about him because ive only seen him play a couple times but from what i see hes also has the potential to be every good...ive seen jennings a coupel times and i must say i really really like his game though i knew he would have a very hard time in europe...his game just translate to the nba though

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wow!!!

Did you play against Splitter? Thiago Splitter? The Brazilian player of TAU Vitoria?

My english is poor and I don´t understand if you say he´s good or not... ahahaha

I think he is really good... when he wants... he will go to the NBA and do it well, even better than his former team mates Scola and Nocioni... and is still very young... I don´t remember well in wich position was picked from the draft... but he is a very good center for NBA, not so hard... but he can score a lot.

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yeah thats him..he has potential but he doesnt always use it..at least then he didnt..i dont know what hes doing now..but then you could see he could be the type to never realize his full potental

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Now Splitter is one of the

Now Splitter is one of the best centers in Europe... same level than Marc Gasol or Luis Scola when they went to the NBA... I think he would be a starter in 90% of NBA teams

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i talked to my boy over there yesterday and looked up some profiles on him and from what thy both say hes pretty good with his only issue being rebounding and sometimes too aggressive on defense which puts him in foul trouble..but other than that they say hes gotten alot better..sounds like a good role player starter

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