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Ric Bucher's top ten NBA players...

10. Carmelo Anthony

9. Chris Paul

8. Kevin Durant

7. Russell Westbrook

6. Dirk Nowitzki

5. Dwayne Wade

4. Dwight Howard

3. LeBron James

2. Derrick Rose

1. Kobe Bryant

Thoughts? Russell Westbrook over Kevin Durant??? LeBron James at three?

Who are your top ten players players as of right now?


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Westbrook over Paul?? WoW.

Westbrook over Paul?? WoW.

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Just me LeBron James Dwight

Just me

  • LeBron James
  • Dwight Howard
  • Kevin Durant
  • Chris Paul
  • Dwayne Wade
  • Dirk Nowitzki
  • Kobe Bryant
  • Derrick Rose
  • Kevin Love
  • Deron Williams
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idiot

this is exactly why bucher should be fired , his sources suck, his scoutings crap , and he knows nothing about basketball

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His reasons for having

His reasons for having Westbrook over Durant is because he feels Westbrook affects the game in more areas, while Durant just scores.

That's solid reasoning, though I don't agree. His opinion though... Who are your top ten?

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His reasons for having

His reasons for having Westbrook over Durant is because he feels Westbrook affects the game in more areas, while Durant just scores.

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But then why is Nowitzki at #6?

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My 2 Cents

My 2 Cents

1.Lebron

2.Kobe

3.Durant

4.Wade

5.Howard

6.Rose

7.Dirk

8.CP3

9.Melo

10.Blake

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Laughable list there Bucher.

Laughable list there Bucher. Westbrook affects the game alright, so much so that it frequently results in either a Thunder loss or an arguement or a 2-14 shooting night. Wade, the best perimeter defender in some minds, and and an unstoppable scorer at 5? Rose affects the game more than LBJ? Westbrook also over Paul?

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Bucher the Butcher wants some

Bucher the Butcher wants some attention I guess as usual..... Chris Paul, Deron Williams and Rajon Rondo have all been better this season than Westbrook.... I understand the statement that he is trying to make by saying that the Thunder have a better team than any of the teams that the above guys play for.... But if you put any of these guys in Westbrook's place the Thunder are just as good of a team- if not better.

Westbrook is only averaging 5.3 apg BTW.....

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What are y'all's top tens?

What are y'all's top tens?

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I actually don't have a

I actually don't have a problem with Westbrook as high as 7, and arguing he's the best player on the team. As good as Durant is, he only really scores alot. You could argue he is a decent rebounder, he isn't high level passer, and he's not a great defender. Also (the biggest thing), I don't remember all these late game moments in playoff games where we can call Durant "clutch". Westbrook is a top level defender, he can attack the basket, and he's still learning the position. Is he a pure passer? No, but you have to remember he started playing the position...IN THE NBA.

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Right now. 2-4 and 5-7 are

Right now. 2-4 and 5-7 are basically interchangable.

1. LeBron James

2. Dwight Howard

3. Kobe Bryant

4. Dwyane Wade

5. Derrick Rose

6. Kevin Durant

7. Dirk Nowitzki

8. Chris Paul

9. Carmelo Anthony

10. Blake Griffin

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Wow, Kobe number 1. Does

Wow, Kobe number 1. Does Bucher think it is still 2007? I know Kobe has been taking a heavy scoring load for the Lakers and he came of the gate strong this year, but number 1 is just kind of silly. My top three are Lebron, Wade and D. Howard. Then I've got Rose, Durrant, and Kobi and I'm not sure which order to put them. Kobi could be last of that group. Certainly, if you factor in the chance that the player won't be healthy by the time the playoffs come around, I'm not taking Kobi over any of these guys. I don't think Kobi can keep putting up these minutes and going all out like he has so far for the rest of the season (he is third in minutes played this season). But if I had to win a game this weekend and everyone is healthy, then Kobi might also be at the top of that three.

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Kevin Love at 9? I like your list overall but I don't think Love is top 15.

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That's fair, but then I would

That's fair, but then I would ask what makes Blake Griffin, right now, better then Kevin Love?

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He shoots 11% better from the

He shoots 11% better from the field and doesn't limit himself as much by camping himself outside the lane so often.

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In Love defense, he's not

In Love defense, he's not playing with the best point guard in the league. I think Paul makes Griffin's scoring chances slightly easier then what Rubio/Ridinour does for Love. From the games I saw of Blake, I'm not comfortable calling him a top ten player. He lacks a post game, and a jumpshot to fully utliize Paul as his point guard, and he isn't comfortable with his back to the basket yet. He isn't a great FT shooter, and isn't a great defensive player, both which hurt him late in games.

If you swapped Love and Blake right now, I think we would all call Love a top 10 player in the NBA.

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Llperez brought something to

Llperez brought something to my attention about Howard not too long ago...

He's a terrible free-throw shooter and you can't run an offense through him and win at a high level. When Dwight scores, it's forced. He's also not a very good passer out of double teams.

But with his defense and rebounding impact, he gets in the top five alone.

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I think the difficulty with

I think the difficulty with these lists is differentiating current ability from value.

Are we saying who do you want on the floor right now, or who do you want to have on your team from now and into the future?

Either way Westbrook over Durant is bat &$#%#&@! crazy. I'm not sure Westbrook is enough of a team player to want in the top 20, much less top 7.

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The Westbrook pick is

The Westbrook pick is somewhat of a head scratcher because there's no way he's a top ten player at this point.

Other than that I thought the list was based on current ability.

Give us your top ten Aran based on current ability.

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Westbrook

Westbrook should consider himself lucky to be a top 7 pointguard... and I'm a fan of the Thunder. I just think Westbrook is a product of Durant.

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Whoa, let's not act like

Whoa, let's not act like Westbrook isn't in that next tier of players. Westbrook is probably top 20 in the league.

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That man is the deffinition

That man is the deffinition of a TOOL

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Westbrook should be ranked 1

Westbrook should be ranked 1 spot behind rose. People are forgetting how good westbrook has been, for exmaple he has the same per as Rose (his MVP sesaon) that's how close they are.

Buchers rankings are way off and i think he did it just to get more attention. Isn't that what the media isabout anyway?

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Everyone has already said it

Westbrook over Durant is stupid. I can only see Rose over James if his reasoning is that Rose means more to the Bulls than James means to the Heat, which is true. Bulls suck to watch w/out Rose. Wade/Bosh can do some serious damage in the East. Wade/Lebron/Bosh make me hate NBA2k12.

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Not Aran's........

But here is mine as of right now based on current ability:

1. LeBron James

2. Kobe Bryant

3. Dwyane Wade

4. Dirk Nowitzki

5. Kevin Durant

6. Dwight Howard

7. Derrick Rose

8. Chris Paul

9. Carmelo Anthony

10. Deron Williams (Though his incredibly awful start has me considering moving someone else here instead)

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Here's my top 10

Right NOW

1. Dirk
2. Kobe
3. LeBron
4. Durant
5. Rose
6. Howard
7. Wade
8. Paul
9. Blake
10. Rubio!!! Just kidding - Aldridge

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hmm.. always hard to make a

hmm.. always hard to make a top 10 list.. As of now

1. Lebron

2. Kobe

3. Durant

4. Rose

5. Howard

6. Wade

7. Paul

8. Dirk

9. Melo

10. Aldrige (probably wasnt even in my top 15 beginning of the season, but the way he is leading his team right now. i have to put him up here)

But i would like to do top 2 for each position that i would want on my team instead of top 10.. bc its hard to rank players on different position

PG: Rose, Paul

SG: Kobe, Wade

SF: Lebron, Durant

PF: Dirk, Aldridge

C: Howard, Bynum

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D-Will

Sad to see Deron excluded from so many lists because the Nets starting lineup surrounding him might be the poorest I've ever seen from an NBA team. His numbers are dropping this year because he's understandably not "trying" to do so much he has "no choice" but to take so much responsibility. His #9 rankings on NBARank was very fair and he's in his prime, which should last 4-5 more years. He's still a top 10 player.

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1-kobe 2-lebron 3-durant 4-wa

1-kobe

2-lebron

3-durant

4-wade

5-paul

6-rose

7-dirk

8-howard

9-aldridge

10-westbrook

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I dont think Westbrook is top

I dont think Westbrook is top 10..

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Thats one retarded ass list

Thats one retarded ass list

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Lebron should be #1 on every

Lebron should be #1 on every single list based on current ability

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That's actually the best way to rank players, take the 3 best at each position and make yourself a top 15

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i wanted to make my own list

i wanted to make my own list but its not that different from anyone here.. lets talk about top 11-20 sometimes

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kobe and lebron for the number one spot

1. Lebron (for the first 46 min.) Kobe (for the last 2 min and OT's)

2.Dwade

3. Dirk

4. Durant

5. Rose

6. Paul

7. Howard

8. Melo

9. Dwill

10. Blake

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1.Bron 2.Wade 3.Kobe 4.D12 5.

1.Bron

2.Wade

3.Kobe

4.D12

5.D Rose

6.Durant

7.CP3

8.Melo

9. Deron Williams

10. Blake Griffin.

If your list doesn't have Lebron #1 it isn't credible

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1. Kobe Bryant 2. Dwyane

1. Kobe Bryant

2. Dwyane Wade

3. Chris Paul

4. Dirk Nowitzki

5. LeBron James

6. Kevin Durant

7. Derrick Rose

8. Dwight Howard

9. Carmelo Anthony

10. Deron Williams

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1. Lebron 2. Kobe 3. Wade 4.

1. Lebron

2. Kobe

3. Wade

4. Dirk

5. Howard

6. Rose

7. Durant

8. Paul

9. Melo

10. Griffin

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Oh yeah..

And am I the only person that doesn't judge a player on a bad year, but impact in the last few years, overall career and their capabilities. With that said, let's get to the Chris No Broussard rankings based on the "best at each position" formula. PGs: Derrick Rose, Chris Paul, Deron Williams, Rajon Rondo, Russell Westbrook, Steve Nash SGs: Kobe Bryant, Dwayne Wade, Manu Ginobli, Joe Johnson SFs: LeBron James, Kevin Durant, Carmelo Anthony PFs: Dirk Nowitzki, Blake Griffin, Pau Gasol, Chris Bosh, Kevin Love, Zach Randolph, Lamarcus Aldrige Cs: Dwight Howard, Andrew Bynum, Marc Gasol Of course I'm missing quite a few players off the list, but I'm keeping it short. I took players with meaningful playoff experince and important games under their belt. Minus Kevin Love who stars for the lowly T'Wolves, I wanted players who step up in the moment and solidify themselves as stars of the NBA, without these players, their respective ballclubs would plunder. Ranking time! 21. Joe Johnson 20. Marc Gasol 19. Lamarcus Aldrige 18. Zach Randolph 17. Andrew Bynum 16. Blake Griffin 15. Pau Gasol 14. Chris Bosh 13. Steve Nash 12. Russell Westbrook 11. Rajon Rondo 10. Manu Ginobli 9. Deron Williams 8. Carmelo Anthony 7. Dirk Nowitzki 6. Chris Paul 5. Kevin Durant 4. Dwight Howard, Derrick Rose 3. Dwayne Wade 2. LeBron James 1. Kobe Bryant

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1. LeBron 2. Durant 3. Rose

1. LeBron

2. Durant

3. Rose

4. Howard

5. Kobe

6. Wade

7. Paul

8. Deron Williams

9. Griffin

10. Melo

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I'm surprised that alot of us

I'm surprised at the number of us,that seems to agree that Blake Griffin is now among the nba's 10 best players....

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1. Lebron 2. Kobe 3.

1. Lebron

2. Kobe

3. Durant

4. Dwight

5 Wade

6. Rose

7. Paul

8.Dirk

9. Carmelo

10. Griffin

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Its funny how quickly people

Its funny how quickly people forget. 3 months ago, many would argue that LBJ isn't the best player on his own team, but now since he's leading the league in scoring, and his numbers are monsterous on a great team, he's gotta be #1, right? Probably, but you could still make an arguement against him.

1) LBJ

2) Howard

3) Wade

4) Rose

5) Bryant

6) Durant

7) Paul

8) Griffin

9) Anthony

10) Nowitzki

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1. Lebron James 2. Dwight

1. Lebron James

2. Dwight Howard

3. Derrick Rose

4. Kevin Durant

5. Kobe Bryant

6. Dirk Nowitzki

7. Chris Paul

8. Dwayne Wade

9. Carmelo Anthony

10. Kevin Love

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1A. Kobe Bryant - His

1A. Kobe Bryant - His competitiveness, will and determination to be the best is out of this world. He's accomplished everything an NBA player can, so what's driving this man? It's not money... It's not fame. It's winning and respect. He REALLY wants to be the greatest ever. He's never full... Regardless of injuries or off of the court issues, he brings it. He doesn't make every game winning shot, but he never backs down from taking them. Mike Brown compared Bryant to LeBron James recently and said the biggest difference between the two was that James had more of a playful/joking attitude, while Bryant was very serious. I think that says it all... Then add to the fact his offensive game has little to no weaknesses.

1a. LeBron James - He's not the most skilled or the most clutch, but he's a physical marvel and the best two way player in basketball. I have my doubts about him being clutch and a big game player on a consistent level though. What's confusing is that despite the fact he's faced pressure on and off of the court his whole entire life, he seems to buckle to the pressure late in games. However, he's having a phenomenal season and has improved a couple of his weaknesses, and I go back and forth between him and Bryant.

3. Dwight Howard - He's a dominate paint protector and rebounder, while also being super durable. I go back and forth on Howard sometimes though because despite the fact he's improved on offense, I have my doubts about him ever being a go-to player. He won't win a championship until he has a legit first option player on his team in my opinion.

4. Kevin Durant - He's a great scorer, who's improving as an overall offensive player... He's shown better vision and passing ability this season. He's going into the post more. He's a solid rebounder and defender. He's developing as a leader. Recently he said he no longer worried about making game winning shots or not... He said if he made it, he made it. Somebody needs to tell James this.

5. Derrick Rose - There are times Chris Paul will look like the 2007-08 or 2008-09 version, but I'm convinced Rose is the best point guard in the NBA. He's improved every season as a shooter, passer and defender. He's controlling the game a lot better now and setting teammates up. He's a natural closer and doesn't seem phased by the pressure of delivering when the game is on the line. Athletically, he has another gear only a couple of other players have.

6. Dwayne Wade - He's the second best two way player in the NBA and a great/confident closer. He can take his game to another level when the game is on the line. However, he always seems to get hurt. He's younger and more athletic than Kobe, but misses more games. I think his body is older than his age indicates.

7. Chris Paul - He makes entire organizations better... He's a great floor general. While I do think he's lost a gear due to his knee injury, he's still a great player. His will, competitiveness and heart will keep him amongst the best players in the NBA. He doesn't have to score to make an impact, but can take over a game for stretches when he wants to.

8. Dirk Nowitzki - He's still playing his way into shape. While he probably isn't the best "scorer" in the NBA, I think he's the best offensive player. He's probably undefendable. It's arguable he's the best closer in the NBA right now... He could miss every shot in the first three quarters, but make every shot that matters in the fourth quarter. He's a go-to player.

9. Carmelo Anthony - He's a bully on offense and can score any way you want it, but does anybody think he could be so much better? He's somewhat of an underachiever in my opinion. He's never in great shape and never tries hard consistently on defense. One of the most clutch players in the NBA though.

10. Deron Williams - His situation is a prime opportunity to say even a superstar's team can struggle sometimes if his supporting cast is awful. Williams' numbers aren't what we're used to, but I still think he's a top ten player in the NBA. He's playing with the worst supporting cast in basketball right now. However, his shooting percentage needs to go up and turnovers down real soon or else I'm dropping him down the list.

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My top 10

1. Lebron

2. Durant

3. Howard

4. Rose

5. Wade

6. Kobe

7. Paul

8. Dirk

9. Steve Nash

10. Joe Johnson

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