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  • #56599
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    As a Cavs fan I dont think you can go wrong with either one.

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  • #923642
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    xJumpManx
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    As a Cavs fan I dont think you can go wrong with either one.

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  • #923771
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     I’ve always liked Parker, he’s more nba ready than wiggins and embiid. He can be a go to scorer for this squad and gives the cabs the oppourtunity to shop waiters and maybe Thompson. Irving is a lock. Getting Parker would give u a lock at sf. I’d like to c a trade of waiters Thompson veregio for shumpert chandler. But taking Parker has been my choice and now with injuries to embiid no doubt Parker imo

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  • #923644
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     I’ve always liked Parker, he’s more nba ready than wiggins and embiid. He can be a go to scorer for this squad and gives the cabs the oppourtunity to shop waiters and maybe Thompson. Irving is a lock. Getting Parker would give u a lock at sf. I’d like to c a trade of waiters Thompson veregio for shumpert chandler. But taking Parker has been my choice and now with injuries to embiid no doubt Parker imo

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  • #923773
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     Agreed both will be good players. Kyrie, Dion, Jabari, Thompson/Bennett, Varejao/ zeller will be fun to watch offensively, defensively…….. Might be some issues

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  • #923646
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     Agreed both will be good players. Kyrie, Dion, Jabari, Thompson/Bennett, Varejao/ zeller will be fun to watch offensively, defensively…….. Might be some issues

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  • #923658
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    Parker is the best fit I think for the Cavs. We desperately need shooting, and will be the perfect player for Dion And Kyrie to kick the ball out to. Agree with previous posters, Cavs cannot go wrong here. It is a 50/50 with Wiggins or Parker and I would be happy with either.

    I just pray they do not take Exum or a trade down and mess things up and draft another PF.

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  • #923785
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    Parker is the best fit I think for the Cavs. We desperately need shooting, and will be the perfect player for Dion And Kyrie to kick the ball out to. Agree with previous posters, Cavs cannot go wrong here. It is a 50/50 with Wiggins or Parker and I would be happy with either.

    I just pray they do not take Exum or a trade down and mess things up and draft another PF.

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  • #923660
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    PG: Kyrie Irving
    SG: Carrick Felix
    SF: Jabari Parker
    PF: Tristan Thompson
    C: Spencer Hawes
    Bench
    PG: Jarrett Jack
    PG: Matthew Dellavedova
    SG: Dion Waiters / 6th man
    SG: Sergey Karasev
    SF: Alonzo Gee
    SF: DeAndre Daniels / 2nd round
    PF: Anthony Bennett
    PF:
    C: Anderson Varejao
    C: Tyler Zeller

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    PG: Kyrie Irving
    SG: Carrick Felix
    SF: Jabari Parker
    PF: Tristan Thompson
    C: Spencer Hawes
    Bench
    PG: Jarrett Jack
    PG: Matthew Dellavedova
    SG: Dion Waiters / 6th man
    SG: Sergey Karasev
    SF: Alonzo Gee
    SF: DeAndre Daniels / 2nd round
    PF: Anthony Bennett
    PF:
    C: Anderson Varejao
    C: Tyler Zeller

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  • #923664
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    As much as I like Parker, I don’t think I can be a fan if he goes to Cleveland. That is one team I really just don’t like, in saying that it’d probably be the best move on the Cavs part and then moving Waiters for an upgrade at PF or C.

    I just think Irving, Waiters and Parker will all need the ball to be effective and that won’t be ideal. I would be makinv a call to Atl – Millsap Denver – Faried if they take Saric) Philly -Young

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    As much as I like Parker, I don’t think I can be a fan if he goes to Cleveland. That is one team I really just don’t like, in saying that it’d probably be the best move on the Cavs part and then moving Waiters for an upgrade at PF or C.

    I just think Irving, Waiters and Parker will all need the ball to be effective and that won’t be ideal. I would be makinv a call to Atl – Millsap Denver – Faried if they take Saric) Philly -Young

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  • #923668
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    abrownii
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     Nah.

    Either they’re picking Embiid (which is very possible because while he’s recovering they’ll have Hawes, Zeller, and a recovering Varejao) or Jabari Parker basic on his developed skill set and humbleness. 

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    Trade, they’ll trade down with Philly and grab Embiid

    Trade with NY Carmelo Anthony for 1st and some players

    Trade with Utah who are trying to get Jabari Parker (Mormon) for possibly Derrick Favors.

    And just to be safe, if Orlando/ Lakers really want Dante Exum they’ll attempe to trade up to snatch him just in case Philly doesn’t land Andrew Wiggins

    With all tht being said, I see Parker, Wiggins, Exum, or Embiid with the 1st draft depending on what Cleveland decide.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #923795
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     Nah.

    Either they’re picking Embiid (which is very possible because while he’s recovering they’ll have Hawes, Zeller, and a recovering Varejao) or Jabari Parker basic on his developed skill set and humbleness. 

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    Trade, they’ll trade down with Philly and grab Embiid

    Trade with NY Carmelo Anthony for 1st and some players

    Trade with Utah who are trying to get Jabari Parker (Mormon) for possibly Derrick Favors.

    And just to be safe, if Orlando/ Lakers really want Dante Exum they’ll attempe to trade up to snatch him just in case Philly doesn’t land Andrew Wiggins

    With all tht being said, I see Parker, Wiggins, Exum, or Embiid with the 1st draft depending on what Cleveland decide.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #923670
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    A friend of mine is friends with Dan Gilbert and says that he’s been told they’re leaning towards Jabari as well due to the fact that they want to make the playoffs now. 

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    • #923679
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      So the Cavs may actually make the right pick (people are underestimating Jabari’s ceiling and are over-optimistic about Wiggins realizing his potential) for the wrong reasons.

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    • #923805
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      So the Cavs may actually make the right pick (people are underestimating Jabari’s ceiling and are over-optimistic about Wiggins realizing his potential) for the wrong reasons.

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  • #923797
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    A friend of mine is friends with Dan Gilbert and says that he’s been told they’re leaning towards Jabari as well due to the fact that they want to make the playoffs now. 

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  • #923672
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     I have total faith that whatever the Cavs do it’ll be the wrong thing.

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  • #923799
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    Chilbert arenas
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     I have total faith that whatever the Cavs do it’ll be the wrong thing.

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  • #923687
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     I think if they take Parker they have to get a different SG who can shoot and defend and doesnt need the ball in his hands to be effective. If they play on keeping Waiters I think Wiggins is the better fit because 3 guys who need the ball to be effective can be a bad thing, espeically at the Pg, Sg, and Sf spots. They can keep Waiters if they think they can make him the 6th man, but they are interested in tradeing Jack for Thorton who would probably be the 6th man.

    Im really concerned about the PF and C position though, they need an offensive option at thos positions.

     

     

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  • #923813
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     I think if they take Parker they have to get a different SG who can shoot and defend and doesnt need the ball in his hands to be effective. If they play on keeping Waiters I think Wiggins is the better fit because 3 guys who need the ball to be effective can be a bad thing, espeically at the Pg, Sg, and Sf spots. They can keep Waiters if they think they can make him the 6th man, but they are interested in tradeing Jack for Thorton who would probably be the 6th man.

    Im really concerned about the PF and C position though, they need an offensive option at thos positions.

     

     

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  • #923691
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    I really didn’t understand how having 3 players that are ball dominant is an issue if they all shoot the 3 ball better than D. Wade (LOL)…  Add to the fact that Waiters come off the bench, I don’t think it’s a huge issue at all…

    Look at OKC for instance…   They need a 3rd scorer that can create his own shot and they have 2 of the most ball dominant players in the league…   

    This will also keep Kyrie in Cleveland since he’s a Duke guy…  Hopefully Waiters and Co. can get on board because this team could be something special with those 3 up there…  Like a low budget OKC team a few years back…  LOL

     

     

      

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    • #923701
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      I think it could be an issue since Waiters and Irving have had struggles playing together. How would adding another ball dominant player help out?  None of these 3 players are good defenders either. I like Parker, I just think they need a defense guy who can stretch the court at the SG postion if they take Parker. A guy like Klay Thompson or Terrence Ross for example. 

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      • #923756
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        coming into the league (although could be argued since he did play for the Cuse)…  Also, Klay Thompson defense is overrated…  He may be thrown on CP3, but be clear…that’s only because Curry is TERRIBLE defensively…  Plus for some reason teams think putting taller players on unstoppable PG’s work…  For a stretch of the game maybe…  But not the whole game…  You need proof?  OKC put Thabo on CP3 to start the series off…  While Westbrook was considered the superior athlete and DRAFTED because of his defense..  

        I’m tired of hearing about the Kyrie and Waiters couldn’t share the ball…  They were ranked next to dead last in offense this past year…  It had NOTHING to do with lack of shot attempts for both of them…  They simply couldn’t score enough…  Like I said, it worked for OKC in the Western Conference…   The issue with Kyrie and Waiters is not wanting to play with each other… Simple…   Getting Jabari will enable them to put more points on the board and with Waiters now a decent 3pt shooter I don’t see how any of them should have issues getting their shots off….  Or sharing the ball…  

          

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      • #923883
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        coming into the league (although could be argued since he did play for the Cuse)…  Also, Klay Thompson defense is overrated…  He may be thrown on CP3, but be clear…that’s only because Curry is TERRIBLE defensively…  Plus for some reason teams think putting taller players on unstoppable PG’s work…  For a stretch of the game maybe…  But not the whole game…  You need proof?  OKC put Thabo on CP3 to start the series off…  While Westbrook was considered the superior athlete and DRAFTED because of his defense..  

        I’m tired of hearing about the Kyrie and Waiters couldn’t share the ball…  They were ranked next to dead last in offense this past year…  It had NOTHING to do with lack of shot attempts for both of them…  They simply couldn’t score enough…  Like I said, it worked for OKC in the Western Conference…   The issue with Kyrie and Waiters is not wanting to play with each other… Simple…   Getting Jabari will enable them to put more points on the board and with Waiters now a decent 3pt shooter I don’t see how any of them should have issues getting their shots off….  Or sharing the ball…  

          

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      • #923955
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         I believe the answer is bringing Waiters of the bench.

        The OKC comparison certainly isn’t even talent wise, but it is logical, that Westbrook, Harden, and Durant all needed the ball in some ways. But at least Harden could shoot very well from 3, unlike Waiters. 

        I don’t see anyway Waiters isn’t either on a different team or coming of the bench last year. And he could carry the 2nd unit for you. Even if they got Wiggins, I think that would still have to be the case because Wiggins and Waiters would be a pretty poor shoorting duo on the wing. 

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      • #924080
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         I believe the answer is bringing Waiters of the bench.

        The OKC comparison certainly isn’t even talent wise, but it is logical, that Westbrook, Harden, and Durant all needed the ball in some ways. But at least Harden could shoot very well from 3, unlike Waiters. 

        I don’t see anyway Waiters isn’t either on a different team or coming of the bench last year. And he could carry the 2nd unit for you. Even if they got Wiggins, I think that would still have to be the case because Wiggins and Waiters would be a pretty poor shoorting duo on the wing. 

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    • #923827
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      I think it could be an issue since Waiters and Irving have had struggles playing together. How would adding another ball dominant player help out?  None of these 3 players are good defenders either. I like Parker, I just think they need a defense guy who can stretch the court at the SG postion if they take Parker. A guy like Klay Thompson or Terrence Ross for example. 

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  • #923817
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    I really didn’t understand how having 3 players that are ball dominant is an issue if they all shoot the 3 ball better than D. Wade (LOL)…  Add to the fact that Waiters come off the bench, I don’t think it’s a huge issue at all…

    Look at OKC for instance…   They need a 3rd scorer that can create his own shot and they have 2 of the most ball dominant players in the league…   

    This will also keep Kyrie in Cleveland since he’s a Duke guy…  Hopefully Waiters and Co. can get on board because this team could be something special with those 3 up there…  Like a low budget OKC team a few years back…  LOL

     

     

      

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  • #923697
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    TenSecondTom
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     So they’re going to run Blatt’s offense with two ball-needy players on their squad? This should be interesting… 

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    • #923707
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      draftmangt
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      Three

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      Three

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  • #923823
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    TenSecondTom
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     So they’re going to run Blatt’s offense with two ball-needy players on their squad? This should be interesting… 

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  • #923723
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    TenSecondTom
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    Yeah… I forgot about the mistake of a 4th overall pick… there’s been so many in recent times for them.

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  • #923848
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    TenSecondTom
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    Yeah… I forgot about the mistake of a 4th overall pick… there’s been so many in recent times for them.

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  • #923731
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     It’s a hard choice. I generally prefer Wiggins. However, Parker is a better choice for them. Wiggins had trouble scoring on guys who were his size and stronger. He’ll be able to be a valuable SG immediately , but he’ll need a few uear’s worth of muscle to play SF (which Cavs need tomorrow). Style/personality-wise Wiggins is someone the team is missing: a selfless defender. He’s really good for a team. 

    Parker is an all-star within a few years and needs/deserves the bal. I don’t think he’ll get it, but I’d bet he can play better team ball than people realize. The only issue with taking Parker is that his defense is great… yet. It wouldn’t be an issue if it weren’t for the fact Cleveland already can’t defend.

    Embiid’s injury made an easy decision a harder one.  

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  • #923857
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     It’s a hard choice. I generally prefer Wiggins. However, Parker is a better choice for them. Wiggins had trouble scoring on guys who were his size and stronger. He’ll be able to be a valuable SG immediately , but he’ll need a few uear’s worth of muscle to play SF (which Cavs need tomorrow). Style/personality-wise Wiggins is someone the team is missing: a selfless defender. He’s really good for a team. 

    Parker is an all-star within a few years and needs/deserves the bal. I don’t think he’ll get it, but I’d bet he can play better team ball than people realize. The only issue with taking Parker is that his defense is great… yet. It wouldn’t be an issue if it weren’t for the fact Cleveland already can’t defend.

    Embiid’s injury made an easy decision a harder one.  

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  • #923739
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    In blatts system I think it can work the Princeton system didn’t work the last time I seen it in the nba because doug Collins made the sixers run it

    the cavs are a different team maybe drafting Bennet makes sense now .

    adding parker will also help blatts system their wont be many weak links on the offensive end yes they don’t have a big for offense or defense but their bigs are role players.

    if the sign hawes and deng back they can help off the bench along with jarret jack . also I don’t know if they own bird rights to deng and hawes but if they do they can they try to sign another player before (Greg Monroe a great passing low post big ) because I don’t think they will have much caproom moving forward after this season.

    I think parker is the best fit for them he will bring a lot to the team and the Princeton offense is a ball moving offense so if your not sharing your getting benched of traded simply as that. they have a chance to be one of the deepest teams in the east and im sure they will make the playoffs next season.

    they might not be the best defensive team but they have to potential to be a deep offensive team with a good coach(mike brown was a joke) you see how that work for the spurs( we know they don’t have 3 hof players and hof coach ) depth and versatility along with a passing approach is going to be something look at with the spurs winning.

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  • #923865
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    In blatts system I think it can work the Princeton system didn’t work the last time I seen it in the nba because doug Collins made the sixers run it

    the cavs are a different team maybe drafting Bennet makes sense now .

    adding parker will also help blatts system their wont be many weak links on the offensive end yes they don’t have a big for offense or defense but their bigs are role players.

    if the sign hawes and deng back they can help off the bench along with jarret jack . also I don’t know if they own bird rights to deng and hawes but if they do they can they try to sign another player before (Greg Monroe a great passing low post big ) because I don’t think they will have much caproom moving forward after this season.

    I think parker is the best fit for them he will bring a lot to the team and the Princeton offense is a ball moving offense so if your not sharing your getting benched of traded simply as that. they have a chance to be one of the deepest teams in the east and im sure they will make the playoffs next season.

    they might not be the best defensive team but they have to potential to be a deep offensive team with a good coach(mike brown was a joke) you see how that work for the spurs( we know they don’t have 3 hof players and hof coach ) depth and versatility along with a passing approach is going to be something look at with the spurs winning.

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  • #923932
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    Seems like a PF log jam if they take Parker. He is 254 lbs now per the Bucks report. I’m sure Jabari’s camp would call them out on it if it was FUD. No one in the league not named Lebron is that heavy and playing SF.

     

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    Someone would have to get dealt.
     
     
     
     
     
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    Seems like a PF log jam if they take Parker. He is 254 lbs now per the Bucks report. I’m sure Jabari’s camp would call them out on it if it was FUD. No one in the league not named Lebron is that heavy and playing SF.

     

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      really?? 254lbs and that’s just weeks after seeing his workout video in California where he looked like he got leaner and much more explosive..

      SICK.. I mean he is already bigger taller than Carmelo

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      really?? 254lbs and that’s just weeks after seeing his workout video in California where he looked like he got leaner and much more explosive..

      SICK.. I mean he is already bigger taller than Carmelo

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     Why so many people believe what they read every year a week before the draft is beyond me. This rumor is to drive the price up for because it’s well known Milwaukee wants Wiggins. 

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     Why so many people believe what they read every year a week before the draft is beyond me. This rumor is to drive the price up for because it’s well known Milwaukee wants Wiggins. 

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    • #924189
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       And Parker’s camp takes that why again? It would be quicky dismissed by them is false.

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      TheLastWord
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       And Parker’s camp takes that why again? It would be quicky dismissed by them is false.

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  • #923935
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    if hes 254 and still explosive with a handle like that let him play small forward.
    he will bully a lot of sf in the paint like LeBron

    I honestly don’t think its bad thign if he was 250 some ppl are pure athlete and with weight (muscle for the most part)gain they still lose little speed look at LeBron and nfl players.

    I know he needs a better work out regime but we know hes not going to be the quickest on the wing so why lose weight why not try to use that other strength.

    with players like bennet and parker in the front court ,a scorer like dion and pg like kyrie in the backcourt blatt could do a lot with his offense.
    hawes and deng are versatile to off the bench second lead guard jack and if they add a player like Monroe this team they will have plethora of offensive options and abilities. I think go all in on offense now you have deng and Tristan already that’s a start to defense you can improve as time goes on but if the want is to make the playoffs now you have to go offense first and focus on the defense of the team later. How many teams you know don’t have to worry about offense? there always bad chemistry or the need for more scoring from the bench or starters. The cavs are in a position to sure up all offensive worries and worry about fixing defense later.

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    • #924187
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       Doesn’t matter what he looks like on offense at the weight. Position is determined by defense. At 254 won’t guard a telephone pole on the perimeter. That means he is your PF, and it sends Tristan Thompson and Bennett to bench roles unless THEY can cover SFs. Can they? Of course not. It’s not that complicated. 

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      • #924200
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        c’mon now..what are you talking about..it’s not about numbers..

         

        so basically just because he is heavier than you thought it doesn’t make him slower than he is.. yes he isn’t elite athlete but what I saw or workout at California he seemed so much quicker and explosive.. If the Jabari Parker of that workout was something around 250 that’s 100% good thing making him crazy mismatch for those some 220 wings

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           He was not 254 in that workout, he was probably 230 and ballooned to 254 after missing some workouts or taking a couple extra trips to Dairy Queen. To put on that much weigh so quickly probably means he will always struggle with his weight because of a slow metabolism. Let’s not act like everyone is on a level playing field in keeping weight off. Just because he is a professional athlete doesn’t make him immune to the problems many of us face.

           

           

           

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        • #924290
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           He was not 254 in that workout, he was probably 230 and ballooned to 254 after missing some workouts or taking a couple extra trips to Dairy Queen. To put on that much weigh so quickly probably means he will always struggle with his weight because of a slow metabolism. Let’s not act like everyone is on a level playing field in keeping weight off. Just because he is a professional athlete doesn’t make him immune to the problems many of us face.

           

           

           

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      • #924328
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        lalaila
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        c’mon now..what are you talking about..it’s not about numbers..

         

        so basically just because he is heavier than you thought it doesn’t make him slower than he is.. yes he isn’t elite athlete but what I saw or workout at California he seemed so much quicker and explosive.. If the Jabari Parker of that workout was something around 250 that’s 100% good thing making him crazy mismatch for those some 220 wings

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      • #924969
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        yeah  i agree .

         

         i don’t think parker would even start in cleveland at the 4. so how does that help them win now?

         

        the fools gold is anyone expecting him to defend the 3 good enough,to make his offense relevant anytime soon,assuming they would put him at the 3 anyway.

        at least with Wiggins you know his athleticism is elite and he can defend 3 positions. its unreasonable to assume he’s not going to improve offensively,how much is the only question. Wiggins can slide from 2 and the 3 spots respectively.

         

          I think he would have more win shares than parker in cleveland with their current roster as well. but you can’t draft both.

        embiid was the favorite but now it has to be wiggins regardless of the smokescreens 

         

         

         

         

         

         

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      • #925098
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        yeah  i agree .

         

         i don’t think parker would even start in cleveland at the 4. so how does that help them win now?

         

        the fools gold is anyone expecting him to defend the 3 good enough,to make his offense relevant anytime soon,assuming they would put him at the 3 anyway.

        at least with Wiggins you know his athleticism is elite and he can defend 3 positions. its unreasonable to assume he’s not going to improve offensively,how much is the only question. Wiggins can slide from 2 and the 3 spots respectively.

         

          I think he would have more win shares than parker in cleveland with their current roster as well. but you can’t draft both.

        embiid was the favorite but now it has to be wiggins regardless of the smokescreens 

         

         

         

         

         

         

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      TheLastWord
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       Doesn’t matter what he looks like on offense at the weight. Position is determined by defense. At 254 won’t guard a telephone pole on the perimeter. That means he is your PF, and it sends Tristan Thompson and Bennett to bench roles unless THEY can cover SFs. Can they? Of course not. It’s not that complicated. 

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    if hes 254 and still explosive with a handle like that let him play small forward.
    he will bully a lot of sf in the paint like LeBron

    I honestly don’t think its bad thign if he was 250 some ppl are pure athlete and with weight (muscle for the most part)gain they still lose little speed look at LeBron and nfl players.

    I know he needs a better work out regime but we know hes not going to be the quickest on the wing so why lose weight why not try to use that other strength.

    with players like bennet and parker in the front court ,a scorer like dion and pg like kyrie in the backcourt blatt could do a lot with his offense.
    hawes and deng are versatile to off the bench second lead guard jack and if they add a player like Monroe this team they will have plethora of offensive options and abilities. I think go all in on offense now you have deng and Tristan already that’s a start to defense you can improve as time goes on but if the want is to make the playoffs now you have to go offense first and focus on the defense of the team later. How many teams you know don’t have to worry about offense? there always bad chemistry or the need for more scoring from the bench or starters. The cavs are in a position to sure up all offensive worries and worry about fixing defense later.

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     I think he will eventually get down to about 230, that’s where he will probably be most effective

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     I think he will eventually get down to about 230, that’s where he will probably be most effective

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    I see some people believe Wiggins is ahead of Parker, so when they hear about Cavs leaning towards Parkers they’re surprised. They should not be. The truth is these guys are so close that it’s a coin-flip to choose one between the two. I compiled the rankings from 14 mock drafts and Wiggins had an average rating of 2.28 while Parker had 2.35. With the injury news of Embiid these numbers will change, and probably in favor of Parker, but here is the big board http://nbadraft.dahoops.com

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    I see some people believe Wiggins is ahead of Parker, so when they hear about Cavs leaning towards Parkers they’re surprised. They should not be. The truth is these guys are so close that it’s a coin-flip to choose one between the two. I compiled the rankings from 14 mock drafts and Wiggins had an average rating of 2.28 while Parker had 2.35. With the injury news of Embiid these numbers will change, and probably in favor of Parker, but here is the big board http://nbadraft.dahoops.com

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     Said it once, I’ll say it again. Jabari Parker is going to be the best player in this draft. Cleveland needs to take him #1

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     Said it once, I’ll say it again. Jabari Parker is going to be the best player in this draft. Cleveland needs to take him #1

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    • #925775
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      are you a cavs fan? I am.

      If so, great, please explain how his offensive efficiency will be with better defenders? 

      how about looking at the simple facts:

      wiggins already shut down parker this is proven and this was after parker scored like he usualy did in college in the first half with wiggins not guarding him.

      What makes you think he will continue to score like he did against more athletic defenders like wiggins?

      I think parker will become a chucker and may score 20 a contest but not without giving up 25/

      we’ll see I guess as the rumors support the likelyhood of them duffing it again and taking parker over the other two 

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

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      are you a cavs fan? I am.

      If so, great, please explain how his offensive efficiency will be with better defenders? 

      how about looking at the simple facts:

      wiggins already shut down parker this is proven and this was after parker scored like he usualy did in college in the first half with wiggins not guarding him.

      What makes you think he will continue to score like he did against more athletic defenders like wiggins?

      I think parker will become a chucker and may score 20 a contest but not without giving up 25/

      we’ll see I guess as the rumors support the likelyhood of them duffing it again and taking parker over the other two 

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

       

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     He doesn’t really struggle with efficiency, plus it doesn’t hurt to be a near 20 ppl scorer as a rookie. He’ll have some growing pains but it’s more than projecting who to draft based on how they perform in season 1. Parker has the ability to keep getting better and he was already the top prospect in the draft.

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      no matter how you argue for parkers points production in college it may not translate nearly as well as the cavs front office and many cavs fans might expect. Mainly due to his lack of elite athletic abilty making it harder for him to create space for his shot.

       

       Parker might very well have some similarities to carmelo anthony and that is intrguing no doubt, but at the end of the day Cavs have irving, waiters, and are still hoping for a third scorer in bennett. Whi even if he does’nt become one is much the same skillset as parker. I find it hard to believe they pass on an elite wing defender which they desperately need that puts the cavs on espns top ten list on a game to game basis. 

       

      we shall see, any both players are going to have nice careers it appears, but despite the majority of opinions believing that parker is more nba ready to help a team win right away, I believe wiggins is the better prospect and is much more of an impact player 2 yrs from now. afterall neither one is going to propell the cavs to contending in one season.

       

       

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      no matter how you argue for parkers points production in college it may not translate nearly as well as the cavs front office and many cavs fans might expect. Mainly due to his lack of elite athletic abilty making it harder for him to create space for his shot.

       

       Parker might very well have some similarities to carmelo anthony and that is intrguing no doubt, but at the end of the day Cavs have irving, waiters, and are still hoping for a third scorer in bennett. Whi even if he does’nt become one is much the same skillset as parker. I find it hard to believe they pass on an elite wing defender which they desperately need that puts the cavs on espns top ten list on a game to game basis. 

       

      we shall see, any both players are going to have nice careers it appears, but despite the majority of opinions believing that parker is more nba ready to help a team win right away, I believe wiggins is the better prospect and is much more of an impact player 2 yrs from now. afterall neither one is going to propell the cavs to contending in one season.

       

       

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     He doesn’t really struggle with efficiency, plus it doesn’t hurt to be a near 20 ppl scorer as a rookie. He’ll have some growing pains but it’s more than projecting who to draft based on how they perform in season 1. Parker has the ability to keep getting better and he was already the top prospect in the draft.

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     smokecreen fooled you… wiggins was always the pick with embiids future risky.

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    nill650
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     smokecreen fooled you… wiggins was always the pick with embiids future risky.

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    Yeah It was a smokescreen but who cares, it’s over now. I’m sure you got the entire draft right pick for pick right? No, I didn’t think so.

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    Yeah It was a smokescreen but who cares, it’s over now. I’m sure you got the entire draft right pick for pick right? No, I didn’t think so.

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