share

Renardo Sidney

lalaila
lalaila's picture
Registered User
Joined: 07/09/2009
Posts: 1870
Points: 1442
Offline
Renardo Sidney

wow, looks he really back in shape and athleticism is there..can't wait to see him play

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG4DvQHpKV4


BothTeamsPlayedHard
BothTeamsPlayedHard's picture
Registered User
Joined: 06/13/2008
Posts: 3437
Points: 4699
Offline
I swear I can take a room

I swear I can take a room full of D3 recruits and put together a workout tape on youtube that makes them look no different from a lottery pick. A 6'10" basketball player dunking with ease is just not a big deal.

BothTeamsPlayedHard
BothTeamsPlayedHard's picture
Registered User
Joined: 06/13/2008
Posts: 3437
Points: 4699
Offline
Who was that D3 guy whose

Who was that D3 guy whose buddy was trying to convince people he was an NBA prospect last spring on this board and actually got DraftExpress to believe he was invited to Portsmouth? http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Suggested-Rosters-2010-Portsmouth-In...

Yeah, that guy, the non-D3 All-American would look great in this setting too.

Im Your Father
Im Your Father's picture
Registered User
Joined: 06/06/2009
Posts: 1231
Points: 1696
Offline
But unlike him

Sidney is actually an elite level talent. I would venture to say that he will never reach this potential, but I think he has the potential to be better than Cousins. Same size and skill in the post and and even more polished on the perimeter.

hiphopismylife
hiphopismylife's picture
Registered User
Joined: 09/05/2010
Posts: 437
Points: 611
Offline
I agree. Thats scary

I agree. Thats scary considering the year Cousins just had at Kentucky but Sydney has everything needed PHYSICALLY to be a star. Hes got that God-given Cousins/Love/Brand body strength under the basket that allows him to move people with ease. Along with that hes got a very smooth stroke to the 3 and serious athleticism, and I mean legit explosiveness not just that he can move for being so big. Hes starting the year in the early 2nd round range but he could easily bump into the lottery becuase we dont really know what to expect, jus like nobody was exactly sure how productive Cousins would be(check the profile made for him from high school) and we saw how his stock soared throughout the season. I cant wait to see Sydney finally on the court.

lalaila
lalaila's picture
Registered User
Joined: 07/09/2009
Posts: 1870
Points: 1442
Offline
Talking about talent we need

Talking about talent we need no videos to know that Sidney is super versality heawyweight...i just want to show that he is slimmer and more athletic than some people think he was after missing all season

the lake show
Registered User
Joined: 01/13/2010
Posts: 8202
Points: 1200
Offline
I like Sydney and think he's

I like Sydney and think he's very good but I agree. If you make a highlight tape alot of people on here will swear the guy is a future lotto pick. Take Perry jones. He's a future NBA player and has huge potential. But people thought he was all world from YouTube clips. But what they didn't know was he has a low motor,doesn't dominate, and he will make a highlight or two then disappear for the rest of the half/game

BothTeamsPlayedHard
BothTeamsPlayedHard's picture
Registered User
Joined: 06/13/2008
Posts: 3437
Points: 4699
Offline
There are actually reasons

There are actually reasons that games are played with coaches and refs.

We'll see what kind of shape he is in and what kind of impact he has around Christmas when he sits out the remaining nine games on his suspension. It would behoove a to-be 21 year old making his college debut to go to the post and play like NBA teams want to see a big man play.

gregoden08
gregoden08's picture
Registered User
Joined: 05/25/2009
Posts: 974
Points: 1047
Offline
.

I will say, he looks MUCH thinner than he did last year. If his conditioning is good, watch out!

Windy City Assassin
Registered User
Joined: 03/11/2010
Posts: 6663
Points: 5736
Online
A lot of people have wrote

A lot of people have wrote him off as being a top 5-10 guy in the draft, but hey he hasn't even played yet. So why has his stock dropped heavily on this site from a 1st rounder to a early 2nd?

knicksfan7
Registered User
Joined: 06/18/2009
Posts: 3069
Points: 1489
Offline
What he is doing in this

What he is doing in this video is irrelevant he could be taking half court shots, and it wouldn't matter. What I am most impressed with is the amount of weight he lost, it looks like he lost 20-30 pounds. I would say he is about 250-260, instead of 280-290.

Windy City Assassin
Registered User
Joined: 03/11/2010
Posts: 6663
Points: 5736
Online
When will he get back in

When will he get back in discussions as a top 5 guy? Honestly he's still a lotto prospect IMO.

BothTeamsPlayedHard
BothTeamsPlayedHard's picture
Registered User
Joined: 06/13/2008
Posts: 3437
Points: 4699
Offline
"When will he get back in

"When will he get back in discussions as a top 5 guy? Honestly he's still a lotto prospect IMO."

And the last time he has played a real game to merit that opinion was when exactly?

Windy City Assassin
Registered User
Joined: 03/11/2010
Posts: 6663
Points: 5736
Online
^

None of the guys that are rated top 5 in the mock haven't played a game either. So what's your point?

Narc
Registered User
Joined: 06/13/2008
Posts: 389
Points: 234
Offline
First off, take a look bat

First off, take a look bat his NBAdraft.net photo and look at his face in that video. The change is damn near phenomenal. He looks so much slimmer compared to what he was and his explosiveness looks good. He has nice footwork and relatively looked good in the drill. I reminds me alot of Zach Randolph.

the lake show
Registered User
Joined: 01/13/2010
Posts: 8202
Points: 1200
Offline
Same stage Derrick Coleman.

Same stage Derrick Coleman. His status isn't much different then someone who redshifted(dwade) or transfer(Seth curry). So he does still warrent lotto considerations. He shouldn't have dropped considering he hasn't played a game yet Like barnes,Perry jones. On a NBA level Blake hasn't played a MBA game and he was hurt all last year. Does he not warrent rookie of the year talk then?

Windy City Assassin
Registered User
Joined: 03/11/2010
Posts: 6663
Points: 5736
Online
^

@ least someone can see where I'm coming from

BothTeamsPlayedHard
BothTeamsPlayedHard's picture
Registered User
Joined: 06/13/2008
Posts: 3437
Points: 4699
Offline
"None of the guys that are

"None of the guys that are rated top 5 in the mock haven't played a game either. So what's your point?"

None of those five have been royal screw ups for the past year and a half either.

the lake show
Registered User
Joined: 01/13/2010
Posts: 8202
Points: 1200
Offline
How has he been a royal screw

How has he been a royal
screw up for things his father has done? Don't get breaking NCAA dumb riles with being a royal screw up. There's a very big difference

BothTeamsPlayedHard
BothTeamsPlayedHard's picture
Registered User
Joined: 06/13/2008
Posts: 3437
Points: 4699
Offline
He repeatedly lied to the

He repeatedly lied to the NCAA, which not only extended the investigation but resulted in him missing all of last year and 30% of this coming one as part of his suspension. This came after some of the sleaziest college programs in the country ran from him as fast as humanly possible. This also came after Sonny Vaccaro told him that he couldn't hack going pro out of high school. If you want to know why he stuck it out with Mississippi State, it is because he couldn't get anything but the $400 a game gig in the NBDL. This is the same Vaccaro who thought Jeremy Tyler could make it. I'm not saying Sidney is a non-prospect, but to dismiss the mountain of evidence that he has made a series of bad decisions and has not been mature is insane. The guy could come in around Christmas and pull a Derrick Caracter, but why would anyone assume that is going to happen?

the lake show
Registered User
Joined: 01/13/2010
Posts: 8202
Points: 1200
Offline
1st. Who doesn't lie to the

1st. Who doesn't lie to the NCAA
2nd he actually had a 70k offer from a team in Spain(one of my boys who plays in Spain,team wanted him)
3 teams ran away because they knew what was coming because of his father

so once again where is the royal screw up part?

Not one of these things show that his caracter is any worst then other prospects who lie about things. John walls been arrested,Elton brand got benifits but didn't get caught. That doesn't make them
screw ups. Screw up isn't breaking NCAA rules because the rules aren't laws and are dumb. Screw up
is the things lance Stephenson has done. Big difference. And a kid should be blamed for what his father did(that's who profited)

BothTeamsPlayedHard
BothTeamsPlayedHard's picture
Registered User
Joined: 06/13/2008
Posts: 3437
Points: 4699
Offline
"1st. Who doesn't lie to the

"1st. Who doesn't lie to the NCAA"

Most people have the reasonable sense not to lie about the little things that the NCAA can prove to be untrue. The Sidney family did not just lie, but were not good at it. It is a farce the way everything played out. There is absolutely no reason to suspend him for one and a third seasons, but the severity was of his own making.

"2nd he actually had a 70k offer from a team in Spain(one of my boys who plays in Spain,team wanted him)"

This, of course, has zero credence. Far different from "I already told him he couldn't do it," Vaccaro said. being cited across the web.

http://articles.latimes.com/2009/apr/29/sports/sp-usc-sidney29

Also, if he was looking at the option of an $11K fine or $70K contract, who is taking the $11K fine? It is not as if NBA teams are incapable of watching players in Europe.

"3 teams ran away because they knew what was coming because of his father so once again where is the royal screw up part?"

So by your logic teams knew he was toxic, but he and his father were still not bright enough to know how to properly handle the NCAA? Half the players in the ACC and Big Ten are driving recent model SUVs because their parents had set aside money for their college and then when they got a scholarship this money opened up for a car. Wink wink, but it beats the NCAA every time. How many AAU coaches end up getting jobs at major college programs for the year or two a major recruit will be there? No money trickles down to the player? It beats the NCAA every time. These two were caught dead to right and they made it worse. You don't see the screw up in that?

the lake show
Registered User
Joined: 01/13/2010
Posts: 8202
Points: 1200
Offline
Lol. Please tell me you're

Lol. Please tell me you're joking. Because it wasn't in the paper it has zero credience? Do you know how many iolegal things unc and duke players dis while I was playing college ball in nc? You know how many euro offers sum of these guys got that didn't make the paper? You know how many of the guys got questioned by the NCAA and lies about it? I mean really.

So by you're logic he's a royal
screw up because he lied to the NCAA. A teenager lied to the NCAA so he could play basketball qaulifies as a royal screw up? So if I jay walk or litter I'm
a royal
screw up
since I actually broke a law

How many of y'all have broken the law no matter how small or lied. If you have then you're obbviously a royal screw up

the lake show
Registered User
Joined: 01/13/2010
Posts: 8202
Points: 1200
Offline
If someone gets a offer and

If someone gets a offer and sonny doesn't report it then it doesn't happen huh. there's alot of things sonny does that he doesn't tell people or tells reporters one thing but does something different. Maybe you have never been recruited or experienced it through family members but Thera a whole lot that is said that's is alot different then what the truth actually is. I'm pretty sure sonny hasn't reported that another player from
Belmont shore got euro offers even though he told rivals that no other team has contacted him about this certain player

the lake show
Registered User
Joined: 01/13/2010
Posts: 8202
Points: 1200
Offline
Let me set the record

Let me set the record straight for you and others on here. Aau is very very shady. I like sonny for the things he's done for my nephew but he isn't the most honest guy in the world. These so called clean coachs do shady shady things out in Vegas during games and after out in the open on the strip. Even so called high character players do things against NCAA rules. We see these kids on tv some times and think we know them. Guess what. We font. I was suprised with some of the things these star kids say or do when off the court. But they are kids and people forget they aren't adults. They don't make the best decisions alot of times and people have to stop expecting them to make a adult decision like always being honest or staying calm

Mr.Knick 32
Mr.Knick 32's picture
Registered User
Joined: 02/17/2010
Posts: 4648
Points: -72
Offline
All I can say is wow. This

All I can say is wow. This man is gonna be a stud when he plays. He could be the next Derrick Coleman. Many people forget Coleman was considered a disappointment even though he had a very solid career.

BothTeamsPlayedHard
BothTeamsPlayedHard's picture
Registered User
Joined: 06/13/2008
Posts: 3437
Points: 4699
Offline
Let's play the logic game,

Let's play the logic game (just because there are professionals paid to cover Mississippi State basketball full time, other paid to cover the NBA Draft fulltime, and even those others who simply cover basketball fulltime, it doesn't mean there are legitimate offers of top college recruits that go uncovered. Let's stop with that nonsense). Pay $11K and miss one and a third years or go to Europe for $70K and get to the draft (his ultimate goal) a year earlier. Really? I'm supposed to think that Renardo Sidney would take door one? Really? Laughably stupid. Please, somebody explain that level of stupidity if he was to turn that down.

the lake show
Registered User
Joined: 01/13/2010
Posts: 8202
Points: 1200
Offline
I think he will be a very

I think he will be a very good player as well . His problem was work ethic and weight and it seems he has changed both. His skills have never been in doubt

the lake show
Registered User
Joined: 01/13/2010
Posts: 8202
Points: 1200
Offline
There are pros paid to cover

There are pros paid to cover duke when I was in college. Do you recall hearing Elton brand smoking weed? Or how about a agent having a deal for Craig Dawson while he was at wake at Jerry stackhouse house during a cook out? There's no way they missed that. Those guys cover games and interview them. They don't follow these guys every where or hang with them. Are you really that nieve? There are hs stars offered euro money that turn it down all the time. You think Harrison barnes hasn't been offered money to
play in Europe? Ate you one of those people that think if it's not in scouting papers or sites then it didn't happen? How bout this. Hit my boy Shaun green up on face book who plays for the team that offered Sydney money in Spain and see what he says. I think his answer might shatter you're outlook on things that go on that isn't reported.

the lake show
Registered User
Joined: 01/13/2010
Posts: 8202
Points: 1200
Offline
Lol. I still don't believe

Lol. I still don't believe you pulled out the people who cover miss basketball thing. Lol. So you think they hang with the players at parties and go to the clubs with them or anything that's off the basketball court. Lol. Classic. You do know these people who are paid to cover guys didn't know about Jennings offer till they were TOLD. They only know about of the court stiff when someone tells them. Like a player getting arrestted or getting in a fight

Hale
Hale's picture
Registered User
Joined: 05/08/2009
Posts: 5956
Points: 12848
Offline
Q

Where did you go to college?

BothTeamsPlayedHard
BothTeamsPlayedHard's picture
Registered User
Joined: 06/13/2008
Posts: 3437
Points: 4699
Offline
"Let me set the record

"Let me set the record straight for you and others on here. Aau is very very shady. I like sonny for the things he's done for my nephew but he isn't the most honest guy in the world. These so called clean coachs do shady shady things out in Vegas during games and after out in the open on the strip. Even so called high character players do things against NCAA rules. We see these kids on tv some times and think we know them. Guess what. We font. I was suprised with some of the things these star kids say or do when off the court. But they are kids and people forget they aren't adults. They don't make the best decisions alot of times and people have to stop expecting them to make a adult decision like always being honest or staying calm"

I've never called Vaccaro anything but a snake exploiting kids, so when THAT GUY with his record of trying to get guys to sneaker deals and pro deals as soon as possible says Europe is not an option, I take note. He thought Jeremy Tyler could make the leap from San Diego to Tel Aviv, but didn't about Renardo Sidney. Just ask yourself why.

I know about the shadiness of AAU and recruiting, but there are reasons some people get caught and others don't. John Riek lived at IMG for like two years. Does anyone believe a kid from the Sudan is paying to be there? Of course not, but he didn't tweet about it like Marvin Austin did his partying. He didn't advertise what went on like Marcus Jordan partying and gambling underage in Vegas. It doesn't take a ton to fend off the NCAA, and it does say something when they get caught and reprimanded in the way Sidney has.

the lake show
Registered User
Joined: 01/13/2010
Posts: 8202
Points: 1200
Offline
St Augustine then transferred

St Augustine then transferred to west virgina but got in trouble so went to alderson broaduss in west virgina

if it wasn't for grades I would have played at Florida state

the lake show
Registered User
Joined: 01/13/2010
Posts: 8202
Points: 1200
Offline
So he's a royal screw up

So he's a royal screw up because he lied? And he didn't get caught his father did. So wouldn't he be the royal screw up not his father. His father is the one who broke the rules. And so basically you would rat you're dad out instead of lying. Personally I would lie as well even with evidence because I'd hope they believe me and I'd play and I'm nit the type to rat on my dad

BothTeamsPlayedHard
BothTeamsPlayedHard's picture
Registered User
Joined: 06/13/2008
Posts: 3437
Points: 4699
Offline
"There are pros paid to cover

"There are pros paid to cover duke when I was in college. Do you recall hearing Elton brand smoking weed? Or how about a agent having a deal for Craig Dawson while he was at wake at Jerry stackhouse house during a cook out? There's no way they missed that. Those guys cover games and interview them. They don't follow these guys every where or hang with them. Are you really that nieve? There are hs stars offered euro money that turn it down all the time. You think Harrison barnes hasn't been offered money to
play in Europe? Ate you one of those people that think if it's not in scouting papers or sites then it didn't happen? How bout this. Hit my boy Shaun green up on face book who plays for the team that offered Sydney money in Spain and see what he says. I think his answer might shatter you're outlook on things that go on that isn't reported."

Don't go 10-15 years ago. The media has changed. Nobody would have ever covered some of the stuff that gets hammered now. Tiny Gallon was brought down by TMZ. Twitter is ruining guys. Speeding tickets end up on espn.

Do I think Barnes has gotten an offer? I think people have gauged interest, which is vastly different from a contract. The elite clubs flush with cash have better ways to spend their time than chasing down a teenager from another continent for one season. Would they turn down a proposal from Vaccaro or someone of his ilk where they are guaranteed a $500K buyout from an NBA team in eleven months and obliged to pay only half that amount? It depends on ownership. Roma went along. For the most part, however, they are better off actually spending their money on someone who doesn't need to be babysat and is both physically and emotionally ready to help them win.

the lake show
Registered User
Joined: 01/13/2010
Posts: 8202
Points: 1200
Offline
Another thing. Everyone

Another thing. Everyone doesn't wanna play in Europe even for alot of money. The dleaugers is full of guys who make 25k who could make six figures but they don't go. There are guys that tale regular jobs over going to Europe even though they would make triple as much. Personally I don't understand it but everyone isn't excited to go overseas and be away of family or friends

the lake show
Registered User
Joined: 01/13/2010
Posts: 8202
Points: 1200
Offline
Another thing. Everyone

Another thing. Everyone doesn't wanna play in Europe even for alot of money. The dleaugers is full of guys who make 25k who could make six figures but they don't go. There are guys that tale regular jobs over going to Europe even though they would make triple as much. Personally I don't understand it but everyone isn't excited to go overseas and be away of family or friends

BothTeamsPlayedHard
BothTeamsPlayedHard's picture
Registered User
Joined: 06/13/2008
Posts: 3437
Points: 4699
Offline
"So he's a royal screw up

"So he's a royal screw up because he lied? And he didn't get caught his father did. So wouldn't he be the royal screw up not his father. His father is the one who broke the rules. And so basically you would rat you're dad out instead of lying. Personally I would lie as well even with evidence because I'd hope they believe me and I'd play and I'm nit the type to rat on my dad"

The NCAA does not have subpoena power, so the evidence they get on players and families that leads them to investigate is usually pretty clear. When Chris Duhon's mother gets a cushy job from a Duke alum and booster, there are at least two dots that need to be connected. If a player is tweeting about going to an agent party 500 miles from him home, there are red flags. A family from Mississippi moves into a million dollar LA home, questions are going to be asked. A player can't do the NCAA's job for them, and then lie about what is clearly staring everyone in the face.

the lake show
Registered User
Joined: 01/13/2010
Posts: 8202
Points: 1200
Offline
So because the media has

So because the media has changed they are now at parties and clubs with players. Tmz got there info from someone who told them. I can go back one year ago and tell you about something with my nephews aau teammate. Where was the scouting services? They can't just come in you're hotel room and see what's going on. Not sure what you think but they aren't everywhere and they still get there info from others unless they are following people and I havnt heard a report where they are constantly following hs players. As far as euro teams. They have people in the states that work for the teams as well as players that play for the teams to talk to the highschool players. These euro tes don't just gushed they offer that's there gushing. Now I don't fault you for not knowing these things because you only
know what you read somewhere on a site. I've not only seen these things through friends and teammates but also through family members. I can write a book on things that scouting sites miss. You really think these reporters are at certain parties with these kids that are thrown by agents and friends of agents. No. For everything you read from
tmz and scouting sites there are 50 things they did not see

BothTeamsPlayedHard
BothTeamsPlayedHard's picture
Registered User
Joined: 06/13/2008
Posts: 3437
Points: 4699
Offline
"Another thing. Everyone

"Another thing. Everyone doesn't wanna play in Europe even for alot of money. The dleaugers is full of guys who make 25k who could make six figures but they don't go. There are guys that tale regular jobs over going to Europe even though they would make triple as much. Personally I don't understand it but everyone isn't excited to go overseas and be away of family or friends"

Yes. Guys have girlfriends, wives, kids, and other things like simply being uncomfortable with the idea of living in a foreign country alone where they don't know the native tongue. In the case of offers in places like Israel or Lebanon, there are legitimate safety concerns. There are a multitude of reasons, but for this guy it was supposed to be a one-year audition. Whether it is in Mississippi or Beijing, it is about getting on the floor and showcasing oneself for the NBA. If one door isn't going to open for more than a year, then why he turn that other offer if it was there?

the lake show
Registered User
Joined: 01/13/2010
Posts: 8202
Points: 1200
Offline
So he's a royal screw up for

So he's a royal screw up for lying

have you or you're family lied to you about anything even if the evidence says other wise?
I know mine has. So are we royal screw ups for that?

The NCAA doesn't need absolute proof to make a decision So since you seem to know that they do please tell us how u know. Have you seen the actual proof. Or are you going by reports you read online. I've read reports that the family has proof that they could afford the things they got but the NCAA didn't believe them

the lake show
Registered User
Joined: 01/13/2010
Posts: 8202
Points: 1200
Offline
Do you know Sidney? No then

Do you know Sidney? No then you have no clue why he turned it down and neither do I so please stop getting what you would do mixed up with what he did. The point you keep tryna make is there's no way he would turn it down. You can beloved he got the offer or not but don't act like you know that there's no way he would turn it down. Many people turn down things for many things or do things we consider strange and we don't know why

just like you I have no clue why he turned it down but I'm
not gonna say he didn't get the offer just because I think he should have taken it. Maybe he really likes college or has a girlfriend he loves or any of the many reasons

the lake show
Registered User
Joined: 01/13/2010
Posts: 8202
Points: 1200
Offline
the way don't get the court

the way don't get the court of law mixed up with the NCAA They don't need to show without a reasonable doubt that someones guilty in order to make a ruling

BothTeamsPlayedHard
BothTeamsPlayedHard's picture
Registered User
Joined: 06/13/2008
Posts: 3437
Points: 4699
Offline
"So because the media has

"So because the media has changed they are now at parties and clubs with players. Tmz got there info from someone who told them. I can go back one year ago and tell you about something with my nephews aau teammate. Where was the scouting services? They can't just come in you're hotel room and see what's going on. Not sure what you think but they aren't everywhere and they still get there info from others unless they are following people and I havnt heard a report where they are constantly following hs players. As far as euro teams. They have people in the states that work for the teams as well as players that play for the teams to talk to the highschool players. These euro tes don't just gushed they offer that's there gushing. Now I don't fault you for not knowing these things because you only
know what you read somewhere on a site. I've not only seen these things through friends and teammates but also through family members. I can write a book on things that scouting sites miss. You really think these reporters are at certain parties with these kids that are thrown by agents and friends of agents. No. For everything you read from
tmz and scouting sites there are 50 things they did not see"

The media doesn't have to be partying with the guys, though that one dude who chronicled LeBron's Vegas party last month shows it does happen, but it only takes one person with a cellphone cam at the party to snap Michael Phelps taking a bong hit and post it online for it to be on the news. The private lives of people are now open to public consumption. This was not the case five years ago much less fifteen. Does stuff still fly under the radar? Of course, but the dumb ones get caught now. Why is it so hard for you to simply accept that Renardo Sidney and his father not only were dumb enough to get caught, but overwhelming stupid in thinking that they could lie their way out of it. It really isn't complicated. Marvin Austin. Dumb. Guy on UNC driving a BMW and says nothing about it, doesn't crash it, and keeps his mouth shut. Smart enough.

As for the foreign clubs, what you wrote is just laughable. Roma could care less about Brandon Jennings. They got in because they would make money on the deal. It was a flier that they the coach thought so little of that they buried his butt. The team got more in a buyout than they paid Jennings, and that is how it was sold to them. Most of Jennings' money came from his UnderArmour deal, not his club. Have you ever spoken to a Serbian basketball coach or a Greek coach and heard how lowly they regard young American players? Or how they regard the American system (high school/AAU) for developing talent? There is a reason that there has not been parade of prep stars oversees. The American owner in Israel wanted to pull the same act with Jeremy Tyler, but there was that little problem of the Israeli team killing his draft stock and possibly coming away having paid a completely unprepared kid two years of high end professional salary with nothing to show for it. But yeah, feel free to keep thinking they are throwing contract offers at kids. What is better for them? Put money into a kid like Jonas Valanciunas, and they not only get a possible buyout at the end but multiple years of service. Or, an American kid who at best is there for one year and has a buyout that covers his salary or at worst is like Jeremy Tyler who showed himself to be less prepared for professional basketball than a D3 kid who paid his way for four years. And do yourself a favor and talk to your boys who have played pro abroad and ask them about how much more guys get around the world for having a year in the NBA on their resume? Even the absolute bums who play in the NBA end up getting more than they deserve abroad because they siphon the scouting. It is kind of like how NFL head coaches and GMs like when former assistants/staffers go take college job because then they can get the most accurate four year scouting report on a player over dinner and drinks.

BothTeamsPlayedHard
BothTeamsPlayedHard's picture
Registered User
Joined: 06/13/2008
Posts: 3437
Points: 4699
Offline
"just like you I have no clue

"just like you I have no clue why he turned it down but I'm
not gonna say he didn't get the offer just because I think he should have taken it. Maybe he really likes college or has a girlfriend he loves or any of the many reasons"

Yes, I'm sure there must be a reason that a family unit willing to take money and live in a million dollar home based because of the potential future earnings of a child would also not jump at a pro contract abroad when it came about. Certainly, the grand schemer for all things prep hoops who told them there was no money to be had for him abroad could have that answer.

the lake show
Registered User
Joined: 01/13/2010
Posts: 8202
Points: 1200
Offline
You say the team could care

You say the team could care Less Do you work for the euro teams or you just going off of you're personal
opinion. In which case please say that instead of saying it like you know what teams do. I know for a fact what some teams do because I've seen it first hand with my brother and my nephews aau teammate

Also who are you to call someone dumb for breaking a NCAA rule? It's a good thing most people don't judge people as harsh as you do. Especially since you only go by what you read. Really what right Do you have calling a kid and his father dumb when you get all you're info from what you read

Would Sidney be correct to say you and others on here have no life because we sit and talk about there life

also please inform
us all what experience you have from recruiting or college basketball? Or once again you just go by what you find from googling

the lake show
Registered User
Joined: 01/13/2010
Posts: 8202
Points: 1200
Offline
So no you know why he didn't

So no you know why he didn't accept the offer. Because you obviously know more then everyone else as far as peoples decisions who you don't even know. Just because you don't understand why they did it

I think you're forgetting you're place. Just like the rest of us you're a blogger. You don't know why these kids do what they do. You don't know what the specifics are of these situations but for some strange reason you act like you do

news flash. Just like me you're a blogger/fan. And what you say is a opinion when talking about why a kid or patent did something. Just like me. So please stop with the "euro clubs don't do this or that" because the fact is you don't know. I don't know what all euro clubs do but I do know what some do and I share that info. But unlike you I'm
not gonna pretend I know what they are thinking and what they will do if I have no experience or personal knowledge with them

the lake show
Registered User
Joined: 01/13/2010
Posts: 8202
Points: 1200
Offline
Once you realize you are just

Once you realize you are just a blogger get at me. I'm out

Mr.Knick 32
Mr.Knick 32's picture
Registered User
Joined: 02/17/2010
Posts: 4648
Points: -72
Offline
Is he really a blogger? Is

Is he really a blogger? Is that why he act like he better then everyone else?

BothTeamsPlayedHard
BothTeamsPlayedHard's picture
Registered User
Joined: 06/13/2008
Posts: 3437
Points: 4699
Offline
What is your point? You want

What is your point? You want me to tell you about me playing ball in college or living abroad? I can recite the whole spiel if you want, but it has nothing to do with this. I have little interest in anyone else's playing experience or the fact that they have all dated supermodels so I'm not going to write mine. Now, I have approached this issue third hand, and have tried to approach it with logic. You claim to like Stanford, then don't be offended by it. You seem to get bothered when I present this guy, his family, the situation, and your claim. None of it meshes. He isn't some can't miss guy. Here is the facts: Vaccaro went on record to say he can't go play ball abroad, his coach at Mississippi State called him "just a big body" last winter when asked if he'd be able to help them, he paid $11K to return to play in the NCAA after missing a year and a half, and his family has already tried to live off the spoils of his future earnings. How would any of that suggest that he has received and would turn down a professional contract abroad? You can't and then choose to dismiss me. Fine, but it doesn't make you any less wrong. And look, I'm not saying Sidney is awful and will never amount to anything. Few stories last winter were as charming as Derrick Caracter turning himself into an NBA player. Who knows how that turns out for him, but there weren't a ton of people who thought he was even a draft prospect going into last season. It certainly can happen for Sidney, but why would any team interested in hiring this guy to help their organization down the road dismiss the messiness and stupidity that he was a part of for the past year? Even if you were to blame it on his father, he made it worse for himself by repeatedly lying. I don't know of how many suspensions the NCAA has handed out to an individual of more than one year. And you want to brush it aside as nothing?

BothTeamsPlayedHard
BothTeamsPlayedHard's picture
Registered User
Joined: 06/13/2008
Posts: 3437
Points: 4699
Offline
"Is he really a blogger? Is

"Is he really a blogger? Is that why he act like he better then everyone else?"

Not everyone, just Knick fans.

RSS: Syndicate content