[ThunderHog35Participant]

So this summer the Thunder yet again have a player at the end of his rookie deal and looking for an extension.  Reggie Jackson has shown he can be capable starting point guard  He will likely never be an allstar, but can run a team and could probably get 18p/6a/4r/2s on another team.  Good numbers, not a franchise changer.  So I pose the question will another team come with an offer and sign him to an extension to make him their starting point guard?  Obviously they wouldn’t have to pay him nearly max money so they might get good value as he continues to grow his game.  Or will the Thunder resign him to start or stay in his 6th man role?  

I can’t imagine the Thunder would trade Westbrook for another star and sign Jackson to start, especially not after the way KD praised Russ in his MVP speech.  So let’s not even go there, eventhough there are plenty of exciting scenarios that could be tossed around.

Orlando might be interested since they’re in need of a young athletic point guard, but they could always just draft one.  It’s a lazy suggestion but Affalo could fit into a deal if Orlando wanted to see a core of Jackson, Oladipo, Pick 4, Pick, 12, and Vuc grow together.  Indiana might be interested as well.  Jackson would be an upgrade over George Hill, not that Hill isn’t a capable point guard in his own way.  New York, maybe Charlotte or Sacramento… there are some teams out there in need of a point guard.

I think they wind up resigning him but he stays as sixth man, which could lead to issues down the road if he gets too unhappy with that role.

 

 

 

 

[NbafanmanParticipant]

Would definitely be interested. They’d then have a talented and athletic backcourt who can put pressure on ball handlers and can grow together. Start Harris at sf draft Randle and Vucevic at center makes Orlando a young up and coming team that can make the playoffs right away. With their 12th pick they can draft a backup shooter someone like Stauskus, McDermott or Hood. If I’m Orlando I’d take jackson for afflalo knowing I’m passing up on Exum to get the best pf in the draft and round out the new young core.

[NbafanmanParticipant]

Would definitely be interested. They’d then have a talented and athletic backcourt who can put pressure on ball handlers and can grow together. Start Harris at sf draft Randle and Vucevic at center makes Orlando a young up and coming team that can make the playoffs right away. With their 12th pick they can draft a backup shooter someone like Stauskus, McDermott or Hood. If I’m Orlando I’d take jackson for afflalo knowing I’m passing up on Exum to get the best pf in the draft and round out the new young core.

[justadream916Participant]

 i see that you are a thunder fan so i have a few questions 

 

Do you think Reggie Jackson can start at SG for a full year ?

Do you trade your first round draft picks and young players for vets ?if so which vets?

What needs do they have too fix this off season to win a championship next year ?

Back to yourquestion i truly believe they will have no problem retaining him the most he will get if he continue to improve is probably 7-8mill 

[ThunderHog35Participant]

For the first question, yes, I think they could trot out a starting backcourt of Westbrook and Jackson. I say that to make this point there: would be mismatches over the course of the season that other teams can exploit defensively.  Who would guard the SGs night in and night out  Jackson has great length that he can use but overall he’d be giving up size most of the time.  Giving Westbrook the assignment might wear him out and hamper his abilities on the offensive end.  There’s no disputing the lineup was very effective in the playoffs but think of the back courts they were going against… Conley and Allen/Lee, Paul and Reddick, Parker and Green. None of those teams have a SG that would really punish you on the offensive end.  I don’t think it would be feasible to have that lineup for ideally 82 games and expect neither of them to be exhausted by the end of it, no matter how young they are.  Again thats just my opinion.

I don’t see the organization trading picks given there philosphy is to draft and develop young players and get the most out of them while they are on the cheap rookie contracts.  And they’ve done pretty well drafting in the twenties.  That’s where they found Serge Ibaka, Reggie Jackson, and Andre Roberson(no close to the rotation yet but he’s had flashes or rebounding brilliance for a guard, just has to work on hitting the net instead of the side of the backboard).  I see them either drafting one player to join the team and another to stay oversees or packaging one of the picks for a solid vet who can play good minutes but not get in the way of the development of Lamb and Adams.  Or Jackson if he’s still around.  As far as free agency goes, there’s not a lot of great names out there right now.  Vince Carter or Shawn Marion might be the best fits but their best days are obviously behind them.  If they do want to bring someone in, I think RFA might be the best bet.  You have Gorden Hayward, Avery Bradley, Lance Stephenson(extremely doubt but a interesting idea), and so forth…..  But again those are all young guys without the championship leadership the organization seems to hold in such high regard.

They were jsut steps from the Finals so clearly just the details need to be addressed.  Of their needs, I think they need shooting in the worst way.  It doesn’t have to be one of the ‘3andD’ guys that are all the rage nowadays, though that should be the goal, but definitely someone with a reliable 3pt shot.  Playmaking would be a plus if Jackson’s not around.  After that, a PF would be next becuase while Nick Collison is Mr. Plus-Minus, he’s not getting any younger and he may only have a couple years left.  But if they can add two 3pt shooters by some combination of the draft, free agency, and internal growth, they’ll be in a good position once again.

I agree with your valuation, I think the most the Thunder would want to give him is 8.5m/year.  Another organization might be willing to pay him 10m to start and that’s where they need to explore deals and see if they can get good value back.  If they can’t find one and they do keep him on the team, I doubt there is a soul in the building that is unhappy with having him back.  Except for maybe Mr. Jackson if he doesn’t get to start…

 

 

 

[ThunderHog35Participant]

For the first question, yes, I think they could trot out a starting backcourt of Westbrook and Jackson. I say that to make this point there: would be mismatches over the course of the season that other teams can exploit defensively.  Who would guard the SGs night in and night out  Jackson has great length that he can use but overall he’d be giving up size most of the time.  Giving Westbrook the assignment might wear him out and hamper his abilities on the offensive end.  There’s no disputing the lineup was very effective in the playoffs but think of the back courts they were going against… Conley and Allen/Lee, Paul and Reddick, Parker and Green. None of those teams have a SG that would really punish you on the offensive end.  I don’t think it would be feasible to have that lineup for ideally 82 games and expect neither of them to be exhausted by the end of it, no matter how young they are.  Again thats just my opinion.

I don’t see the organization trading picks given there philosphy is to draft and develop young players and get the most out of them while they are on the cheap rookie contracts.  And they’ve done pretty well drafting in the twenties.  That’s where they found Serge Ibaka, Reggie Jackson, and Andre Roberson(no close to the rotation yet but he’s had flashes or rebounding brilliance for a guard, just has to work on hitting the net instead of the side of the backboard).  I see them either drafting one player to join the team and another to stay oversees or packaging one of the picks for a solid vet who can play good minutes but not get in the way of the development of Lamb and Adams.  Or Jackson if he’s still around.  As far as free agency goes, there’s not a lot of great names out there right now.  Vince Carter or Shawn Marion might be the best fits but their best days are obviously behind them.  If they do want to bring someone in, I think RFA might be the best bet.  You have Gorden Hayward, Avery Bradley, Lance Stephenson(extremely doubt but a interesting idea), and so forth…..  But again those are all young guys without the championship leadership the organization seems to hold in such high regard.

They were jsut steps from the Finals so clearly just the details need to be addressed.  Of their needs, I think they need shooting in the worst way.  It doesn’t have to be one of the ‘3andD’ guys that are all the rage nowadays, though that should be the goal, but definitely someone with a reliable 3pt shot.  Playmaking would be a plus if Jackson’s not around.  After that, a PF would be next becuase while Nick Collison is Mr. Plus-Minus, he’s not getting any younger and he may only have a couple years left.  But if they can add two 3pt shooters by some combination of the draft, free agency, and internal growth, they’ll be in a good position once again.

I agree with your valuation, I think the most the Thunder would want to give him is 8.5m/year.  Another organization might be willing to pay him 10m to start and that’s where they need to explore deals and see if they can get good value back.  If they can’t find one and they do keep him on the team, I doubt there is a soul in the building that is unhappy with having him back.  Except for maybe Mr. Jackson if he doesn’t get to start…

 

 

 

[justadream916Participant]

 i see that you are a thunder fan so i have a few questions 

 

Do you think Reggie Jackson can start at SG for a full year ?

Do you trade your first round draft picks and young players for vets ?if so which vets?

What needs do they have too fix this off season to win a championship next year ?

Back to yourquestion i truly believe they will have no problem retaining him the most he will get if he continue to improve is probably 7-8mill 

[KHAM83Participant]

 7-8 million is a lot for the Thunder. Nothing has changed since when they shipped off Harden. Okc will forever have to continue tweaking and rotating their role players. 

As for the op, ya Durant praised Russ, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t "go there" with Westbrook trade ideas. What makes the ideas worthless are that they never make the Thunder a better team. I like Jackson, and have felt NY desperately needs to go after him, but you did hit something when you brought up Afflalo. He’ll fit next to Westbrook perfectly and will be a mentor to Lamb. He’ll bring the d they’ll most likely lose in Thabo plus much better offensive capability. Jackson-Oladipo would be great combo in Orlando. This would allow them to tackle pf with their first pick and bolster their bench with their second. I like your idea of Stauskas in this scenario as he can backup both guard positions.

 

[ThunderHog35Participant]

You’re right, the price might be a little more than they wanted but with the way the tax ceiling is increasing they may not be so against giving him some money if it keeps him happy to come off the bench.  And they were preparded to go into the lux tax with Harden but just didn’t want to pay max money to someone that was ultimately going to continue to come off the bench.  I think they could have started Westbrook, Harden, and Durant but it would have taken the installation of some sort of system outside or PnR, Horns,and Iso.

 

By all means toss the trade scenarios out! They’re great fun to talk about, I wasn’t trying to shut them down.  Like you said it’s just difficult to find ones that make the Thunder a better team.  Shump + something small(not sure what else would be attractive to OKC) for Jackson wouldn’t be terrible, I really like the fit of Jackson on the Knicks.  

[KHAM83Participant]

 Shump isn’t a bad idea. He can either start or backup either guard positions. I think Shump for Jackson is a win win.

[BennyWestsideParticipant]

 The Thunder would need to get a draft pick to make that fair. Shump aint bad, but he isnt a good defender, shooter or ball handler yet.

[BennyWestsideParticipant]

 The Thunder would need to get a draft pick to make that fair. Shump aint bad, but he isnt a good defender, shooter or ball handler yet.

[KHAM83Participant]

 Shump isn’t a bad idea. He can either start or backup either guard positions. I think Shump for Jackson is a win win.

[ThunderHog35Participant]

You’re right, the price might be a little more than they wanted but with the way the tax ceiling is increasing they may not be so against giving him some money if it keeps him happy to come off the bench.  And they were preparded to go into the lux tax with Harden but just didn’t want to pay max money to someone that was ultimately going to continue to come off the bench.  I think they could have started Westbrook, Harden, and Durant but it would have taken the installation of some sort of system outside or PnR, Horns,and Iso.

 

By all means toss the trade scenarios out! They’re great fun to talk about, I wasn’t trying to shut them down.  Like you said it’s just difficult to find ones that make the Thunder a better team.  Shump + something small(not sure what else would be attractive to OKC) for Jackson wouldn’t be terrible, I really like the fit of Jackson on the Knicks.  

[KHAM83Participant]

 7-8 million is a lot for the Thunder. Nothing has changed since when they shipped off Harden. Okc will forever have to continue tweaking and rotating their role players. 

As for the op, ya Durant praised Russ, but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t "go there" with Westbrook trade ideas. What makes the ideas worthless are that they never make the Thunder a better team. I like Jackson, and have felt NY desperately needs to go after him, but you did hit something when you brought up Afflalo. He’ll fit next to Westbrook perfectly and will be a mentor to Lamb. He’ll bring the d they’ll most likely lose in Thabo plus much better offensive capability. Jackson-Oladipo would be great combo in Orlando. This would allow them to tackle pf with their first pick and bolster their bench with their second. I like your idea of Stauskas in this scenario as he can backup both guard positions.

 

[juves4783Participant]

i’d look at trading him to sacramento for the #8 pick, especially if smart is off the board.  i was slaughtered wtih negs on my trade idea on a post, but i think it was because i thought it would be good for okc to bring in zach lavine for his upside.  maybe more reasonable and "win now" mentality is to bring in a doug mcdermott or nick stauskas to provide some immediate help.  i think at 21 and 29, they have flexibilty for a backup pg in napier or clarkson (who seems to be doing very well in workouts).  then, the other pick can used on a euro to draft and stash.

[KHAM83Participant]

I think #8 is too much for him. He’s no James Harden now.

[ThunderHog35Participant]

 I agree, #8 for Jackson is way too much.  Probably have to throw in one of the other prospects(PJIII) and the 29th to even get the Kings to stay on the phone with you.  At #8, if either of the top 3 PFs are there I’d be happy with that other wise Gary Harris might be worth a look, but the Thunder currently have a couple young SGs and I don’t know if they want another even if he has a higher ceiling.  Might be to high to take Nik.  McBuckets wouldn’t be bad either….

[ThunderHog35Participant]

 I agree, #8 for Jackson is way too much.  Probably have to throw in one of the other prospects(PJIII) and the 29th to even get the Kings to stay on the phone with you.  At #8, if either of the top 3 PFs are there I’d be happy with that other wise Gary Harris might be worth a look, but the Thunder currently have a couple young SGs and I don’t know if they want another even if he has a higher ceiling.  Might be to high to take Nik.  McBuckets wouldn’t be bad either….

[KHAM83Participant]

I think #8 is too much for him. He’s no James Harden now.

[Ebown5Participant]

 

 First off, Reggie Jackson isn’t worth that much, but secondly why would the kings want him? They already have Isaiah Thomas as an undersized shooting guard.

 

[King CaluchaParticipant]

Reggie Jackson is not undersized, he’s 6’3”. However, there’s no way the Kings (or any other team in the lotto) give up a 1st for him. Don’t get me wrong, I really like him as a player, but he’s close to his ceiling and he’s getting more money next season, so I think all those teams are better off developing a rookie from scratch.

[King CaluchaParticipant]

Reggie Jackson is not undersized, he’s 6’3”. However, there’s no way the Kings (or any other team in the lotto) give up a 1st for him. Don’t get me wrong, I really like him as a player, but he’s close to his ceiling and he’s getting more money next season, so I think all those teams are better off developing a rookie from scratch.

[Ebown5Participant]

 I like him as a player too. Don’t get me wrong, but The Kings so certainly don’t need him. They need a true point guard.

Also, he clearly isn’t worth the 8th pick in the draft. He isn’t a better player than a Thaddeus Young or Arron Aflalo and neither of them are worth the 8th pick in the draft either.

Players of Jackson’s talent are only worth the 8th pick in the draft if they are physically ideal for their position and in an important position. You can find scoring guards in the nba. 

[Ebown5Participant]

 I like him as a player too. Don’t get me wrong, but The Kings so certainly don’t need him. They need a true point guard.

Also, he clearly isn’t worth the 8th pick in the draft. He isn’t a better player than a Thaddeus Young or Arron Aflalo and neither of them are worth the 8th pick in the draft either.

Players of Jackson’s talent are only worth the 8th pick in the draft if they are physically ideal for their position and in an important position. You can find scoring guards in the nba. 

[Ebown5Participant]

 

 First off, Reggie Jackson isn’t worth that much, but secondly why would the kings want him? They already have Isaiah Thomas as an undersized shooting guard.

 

[juves4783Participant]

i’d look at trading him to sacramento for the #8 pick, especially if smart is off the board.  i was slaughtered wtih negs on my trade idea on a post, but i think it was because i thought it would be good for okc to bring in zach lavine for his upside.  maybe more reasonable and "win now" mentality is to bring in a doug mcdermott or nick stauskas to provide some immediate help.  i think at 21 and 29, they have flexibilty for a backup pg in napier or clarkson (who seems to be doing very well in workouts).  then, the other pick can used on a euro to draft and stash.

[hbomb3300Participant]

I wouldn’t expect him to be traded before or during the draft…  The Thunder will probably do what they did with Harden and do their best to sign him to an extension before the season.  If they can’t work something out then they will look to trade him before the season starts.

[hbomb3300Participant]

I wouldn’t expect him to be traded before or during the draft…  The Thunder will probably do what they did with Harden and do their best to sign him to an extension before the season.  If they can’t work something out then they will look to trade him before the season starts.

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 The Thunder should go after Kevin Love.  Everybody but Durant, Westbrook, and Ibaka is on the table including 21, 29, and future picks.

Reggie Jackson, Jeremy Lamb, Steven Adams, Perry Jones, 21, 29, future picks, K Perk’s expiring contract, and either Roberson or Thabeet for Kevin Love.  That could turn into the best deal for Minnesota.

Awesome four man core in OKC with Durant, Westbrook, Love, and Ibaka.  They can resign Caron Butler and Thabo to go with Nick Collison as their supporting cast.  You only need 7 guys in the playoffs anyway.

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 The Thunder should go after Kevin Love.  Everybody but Durant, Westbrook, and Ibaka is on the table including 21, 29, and future picks.

Reggie Jackson, Jeremy Lamb, Steven Adams, Perry Jones, 21, 29, future picks, K Perk’s expiring contract, and either Roberson or Thabeet for Kevin Love.  That could turn into the best deal for Minnesota.

Awesome four man core in OKC with Durant, Westbrook, Love, and Ibaka.  They can resign Caron Butler and Thabo to go with Nick Collison as their supporting cast.  You only need 7 guys in the playoffs anyway.

[ThunderHog35Participant]

I feel like this is the 5th or 6th time I’ve seen you post this idea on a thread.  There is no way Presti would get rid of every single prospect he has in his stable for a guy that can walk after a year.  Even if he pulls a Chris Paul and agrees to opt in for an extra year.  OKC would hang up the phone if that was the offer.  

 Kevin Love is a great player and I’d love to see him on the Thunder but he’s a third option on that team and it wouldn’t be worth having to get all the vet minimum, replacement level players they would need to fill out the roster.

[ThunderHog35Participant]

I feel like this is the 5th or 6th time I’ve seen you post this idea on a thread.  There is no way Presti would get rid of every single prospect he has in his stable for a guy that can walk after a year.  Even if he pulls a Chris Paul and agrees to opt in for an extra year.  OKC would hang up the phone if that was the offer.  

 Kevin Love is a great player and I’d love to see him on the Thunder but he’s a third option on that team and it wouldn’t be worth having to get all the vet minimum, replacement level players they would need to fill out the roster.

[aztwulfParticipant]

You have 8 players coming to Minnesota, and 1 going out. Minnesota has two roster spots that aren’t taken by guaranteed contracts. I think any Minny-OKC deal would have to start with Ibaka. If Ibaka and Russ are both off the table, then I can’t see a deal between these two teams.

I do think OKC could easily do a deal with Minny, due to all of the OKC assets, but only if Ibaka is in the deal.

[aztwulfParticipant]

You have 8 players coming to Minnesota, and 1 going out. Minnesota has two roster spots that aren’t taken by guaranteed contracts. I think any Minny-OKC deal would have to start with Ibaka. If Ibaka and Russ are both off the table, then I can’t see a deal between these two teams.

I do think OKC could easily do a deal with Minny, due to all of the OKC assets, but only if Ibaka is in the deal.

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

^^^^

The Thunder would have 3 of the top 5 players in the league.  Plus one of the best shot blocker/dunker combination guys in Serge Ibaka.  A BIG FOUR is bigger than a BIG THREE.  … Thabo and Butler are their fifth and sixth options NOW and they got to the Western Conference Finals.  Nick Collison is one of their top big men off the bench right now.  With a healthy Serge Ibaka playing in all the games they could have pulled the thing out in seven games.

The Thunder’s third option would be the best power forward in the league.  Serge Ibaka would be a perfect fit next to Kevin Love.  Then they have Nick Collison and perhaps Hasheem Thabeet off the bench to give them toughness, fouls, rebounds, and defense.  Butler is a small forward but he can also play some stretch four, as can Kevin Durant.  Westbrook is almost a one man backcourt, and they might be able to resign Thabo CHEAPER. 

I think the Thunder can replace Jeremy Lamb’s production at the 2.  They might have a hard time replace Reggie Jackson’s production, but with all the point guards/combo guards out there, I think they can get somebody.  What about Darren Collison? 

Thabo is making nearly $4 million now.  If they can resign him cheaper, then that savings and the $1.3 million in savings from the trade (you also don’t have to pay two late first round picks) means you can sign a guy like Darren Collison. 

Or, what about a guy like Ramon Sessions who can score and pass, and could be cheaper than DC? 

I think a two guard that could fit in perfectly as an off the bench 6th man type for this team would be Chris Douglas-Roberts.  He has a herky-jerky, crafty game on offense and can get his own shot.  He can get you 10-12 points from the shooting guard spot.  CDR is no James Harden, but he would be a heck of a lot cheaper.  For his career he has averaged about 7.5 points in 20 minutes a game.  8 or 9 points in 25 minutes or so a night should be enough for a 6th man for them, to go along with whoever they get at backup point guard.

How could the Thunder seriously turn down a team of Durant, Westbrook, Love, and Ibaka?  Butler, Thabo, and Collison are basically their 5th, 6th, and 7th options now, apart from a great game every now and then from Reggie Jackson. 

 

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

^^^^

The Thunder would have 3 of the top 5 players in the league.  Plus one of the best shot blocker/dunker combination guys in Serge Ibaka.  A BIG FOUR is bigger than a BIG THREE.  … Thabo and Butler are their fifth and sixth options NOW and they got to the Western Conference Finals.  Nick Collison is one of their top big men off the bench right now.  With a healthy Serge Ibaka playing in all the games they could have pulled the thing out in seven games.

The Thunder’s third option would be the best power forward in the league.  Serge Ibaka would be a perfect fit next to Kevin Love.  Then they have Nick Collison and perhaps Hasheem Thabeet off the bench to give them toughness, fouls, rebounds, and defense.  Butler is a small forward but he can also play some stretch four, as can Kevin Durant.  Westbrook is almost a one man backcourt, and they might be able to resign Thabo CHEAPER. 

I think the Thunder can replace Jeremy Lamb’s production at the 2.  They might have a hard time replace Reggie Jackson’s production, but with all the point guards/combo guards out there, I think they can get somebody.  What about Darren Collison? 

Thabo is making nearly $4 million now.  If they can resign him cheaper, then that savings and the $1.3 million in savings from the trade (you also don’t have to pay two late first round picks) means you can sign a guy like Darren Collison. 

Or, what about a guy like Ramon Sessions who can score and pass, and could be cheaper than DC? 

I think a two guard that could fit in perfectly as an off the bench 6th man type for this team would be Chris Douglas-Roberts.  He has a herky-jerky, crafty game on offense and can get his own shot.  He can get you 10-12 points from the shooting guard spot.  CDR is no James Harden, but he would be a heck of a lot cheaper.  For his career he has averaged about 7.5 points in 20 minutes a game.  8 or 9 points in 25 minutes or so a night should be enough for a 6th man for them, to go along with whoever they get at backup point guard.

How could the Thunder seriously turn down a team of Durant, Westbrook, Love, and Ibaka?  Butler, Thabo, and Collison are basically their 5th, 6th, and 7th options now, apart from a great game every now and then from Reggie Jackson. 

 

 

[ThunderHog35Participant]

You make some decent points, but it would be going all in on a couple of years instead of building a strong team for the long haul, a la the spurs. 

 

BTW, "CDR is no James Harden", understate of the YEAR! Lol…. I’m sorry but that line really did make me chuckle.

 

 

[ThunderHog35Participant]

You make some decent points, but it would be going all in on a couple of years instead of building a strong team for the long haul, a la the spurs. 

 

BTW, "CDR is no James Harden", understate of the YEAR! Lol…. I’m sorry but that line really did make me chuckle.

 

 

[WinterSoldierParticipant]

 The Thunder mentality is insane to me. You wouldn’t give up prospects for a star player? Obviously your not giving up all your players but I think Lamb, Stevens, Jones and Perkins (expiring) Plus 21 and 29. That is a great deal for Kevin Love and Muhammed and possibly another player. You’re not giving up (most likely) any future stars and you can fill out the roster with cheap veterans who are chasing a ring. It takes players years to learn the nuances of the game which is why vets are so important to a team trying to win a championship. It’s starting to feel like the Thunder love prospects more than they love to win championships.

[WinterSoldierParticipant]

 The Thunder mentality is insane to me. You wouldn’t give up prospects for a star player? Obviously your not giving up all your players but I think Lamb, Stevens, Jones and Perkins (expiring) Plus 21 and 29. That is a great deal for Kevin Love and Muhammed and possibly another player. You’re not giving up (most likely) any future stars and you can fill out the roster with cheap veterans who are chasing a ring. It takes players years to learn the nuances of the game which is why vets are so important to a team trying to win a championship. It’s starting to feel like the Thunder love prospects more than they love to win championships.

[ThunderHog35Participant]

 I absolutely would be in favor of giving up prospect s for a star player. But trading all picks that we’ve made the past few years along with current and future picks for one player that wouldn’t even be the first or second option seems insane. Drop Jackson and Roberson and the future picks and add in a player or asset along with love and it starts to become much more feasible. Something like what you tossed out doesn’t sound far off. Trading everything for only one player seems a little over the top in my opinion.

[ThunderHog35Participant]

 I absolutely would be in favor of giving up prospect s for a star player. But trading all picks that we’ve made the past few years along with current and future picks for one player that wouldn’t even be the first or second option seems insane. Drop Jackson and Roberson and the future picks and add in a player or asset along with love and it starts to become much more feasible. Something like what you tossed out doesn’t sound far off. Trading everything for only one player seems a little over the top in my opinion.

[mixtape2003Participant]

They would’be kept Harden if they wanted s big 4 , and all that cap committed to 4 players

[mixtape2003Participant]

They would’be kept Harden if they wanted s big 4 , and all that cap committed to 4 players

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

 

Has not reached his ceiling. I would like to see him with a different coach. He is not worth a top 10 in this draft though. He is a young player who unquestionably can get better.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

 

Has not reached his ceiling. I would like to see him with a different coach. He is not worth a top 10 in this draft though. He is a young player who unquestionably can get better.

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 If my deal is too steep for OKC then Minny can throw in Alexy Shved to be the young guard to pair with Russell Westbrook as well as picks at 44 and 53.  Some decent options there to give the Thunder cheap depth.

hard to pass up a five man unit of Westbrook, Shved, Durant, Love, and Ibaka with Thabo, Butler, Collison,  Roberson/Thabeet, 44, and 53 off the bench. 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 If my deal is too steep for OKC then Minny can throw in Alexy Shved to be the young guard to pair with Russell Westbrook as well as picks at 44 and 53.  Some decent options there to give the Thunder cheap depth.

hard to pass up a five man unit of Westbrook, Shved, Durant, Love, and Ibaka with Thabo, Butler, Collison,  Roberson/Thabeet, 44, and 53 off the bench. 

[Imoon ShoomportParticipant]

 I think a trade based around Reggie for Afflalo makes both teams better. Although, I think Reggie has more value than Aaron, so Orlando would need to sweeten that deal a little.

So, presuming RJ agrees to sign with Orlando for a few years at like 9-10 per year, this trade looks at least somewhat feasible:

RJ, Lamb, 21st and 29th to Orlando

Afflalo and the 12th to OKC (Thunder would draft maybe Stauskas to backup at SG and then sign a PG to backup Westbrook, maybe Kirk Hinrich?).

Does this trade move the needle for either team?

[Imoon ShoomportParticipant]

 I think a trade based around Reggie for Afflalo makes both teams better. Although, I think Reggie has more value than Aaron, so Orlando would need to sweeten that deal a little.

So, presuming RJ agrees to sign with Orlando for a few years at like 9-10 per year, this trade looks at least somewhat feasible:

RJ, Lamb, 21st and 29th to Orlando

Afflalo and the 12th to OKC (Thunder would draft maybe Stauskas to backup at SG and then sign a PG to backup Westbrook, maybe Kirk Hinrich?).

Does this trade move the needle for either team?

[hbomb3300Participant]

I could see this trade working if someone the Thunder really like is available at 12.

[hbomb3300Participant]

I could see this trade working if someone the Thunder really like is available at 12.

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