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Realistic trade offers

So PG13 says he will leave come end of the upcoming season and Indiana are said to be looking for trade partners.

Realistically I can see 2 potential partners, Cleveland and Los Angeles Lakers.
Now I only see LA getting involved if they believe Cleveland has a legitimate chance of re-signing him, which is entirely possible.

Cleveland: Love for PG13 & potentially add a 3rd team to take Love and potentially return a young talent & a pick.

Los Angeles: Randle, Clarkson, 28th Pick & Deng for PG13 & Ellis.
I think LA values Russell a little more and so part with Randle and Clarkson for Paul George and take Dengs contract back to get the 28th pick. Ellis has q year on contract freeing up cap space for re-signing Paul George and potentially another free agent.


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Boston sure has the assests,

Boston sure has the assests, but I'd be lying if I said I had any clue what Danny Ainge's plan is.

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I can see Boston going after

I can see Boston going after Jimmy Butler, #3 pick and a future first..

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I f I'm thr Lakeers

If I'm the Lakers and I'm worried I guess you could just offer their pick this year. I think that's more attractive than whatever the Cav's can offer which I assume is Kevin Love based. You then are keeping a pretty young neucleus that did put together some good ball last year at times. That's if I'm worried.

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To be completely honest the lakers could maybe offer this..

Clarkson,Deng+ 2019 which I believe they still own.(top 3 protected) pick for P.G

Now why do they do this: They are apparently shopping Clarkson.

They get to move Deng-if they believe he wont fit long term.

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The pick is the going be better than anything the Cavs can offer-Well unless lebron bails and post lebron happens all over again and they end up lottery in 2019/2020...

Why do the pacers do this unless they firmly believe they can trade him to somewhere he would stay he isn't going to re-up resulting in a low return ala Kings for Demarcus..

The only teams that make any sense to go after him:

Cavs-If they give up Love and a lot of future firsts then you either keep Love or parlay him into even more future firsts..Hello Celtics maybe?? Cavs do this so Lebron can move over to PF and P.G can move to the Sf spot..

Celtics they probably won't do this unless Gordan says he isn't coming or they miss out on Butler who is at least under contract for 2 years vs P.Gs 1...

Clippers if they keep CP3/Blake it makes sense to offer a first or two to go one all in one last time

The wild cards:

76ers...Now just wait for it they offer one of their own picks the OKC pick and maybe a young talent like covington? They would have Embiid,Dario,PG,Futlz and Ben S and Okafor off the bench + round it out with a few other solid F.A pickup or two. If everyone stays healthy it would be a pretty talented team and could be a threat in 1-2 years max which is alot sooner than Lakers would be..

The T-wolves the offer two future first(with top 5 protections),Shabazz,Rubio and maybe the expiring deal of Pekovic for P.G. Now why would the T-wolves do this: They get that 3rd piece to add to Wiggins and Towns that could help them start reaching their potential sooner rather than later..

Imagine : Towns,Dieng(well at least until they upgrade),PG,Wiggins and Dunn or F.A

Bench: Lavine,Dunn or F.A,Bjelicia,The rookie this year and maybe a F.A or two..He also gets to play under a veteran coach who wants to wins and can make it happen..

But my guess is this though Lakers as he has Said thats where I want to go so.. But I will give P.G two things: He at least gave the pacers the courteousy to let them know that he won't re-up so they can at least get something which is better than nothing(something K.D didn't give the Team/ us OKC fans) and he has stopped the Pacers commiting money to bad contracts like Teague which they may have been forced to pay to keep P.G happy...

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I would refuse #2 if I had to

I would refuse #2 if I had to take both Deng and Clarkson contracts in the Pacers position.

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The Pacers would be in a

The Pacers would be in a state of rebuilding and Paul George lowered his trade value by saying he plans on signing with the Lakers, so getting a #2 pick would be a blessing. Clarkson's contract isn't bad for his value as a 6th man and Deng's contract is bad, but so is he now so he won't hurt the rebuilding efforts. The Pacers don't really have a choice, but to accept and offer like this either, because no team will trade for him with only 1 year left on his contract. The Cavs could try, but if the Pacers are going to rebuild, they wouldn't want Love in return and draft picks from the Cavs are meaningless. The only real threat is the Celtics, because they have the most assets to offer, but once again it's a risk because George only has 1 year left on his contract. Even if he gives them a verbal committment to re-sign, he could still change his mind and sign with the Lakers in the offseason. In conclusion, the Pacers have no leverage.

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The pacers doesnt have to

The pacers doesnt have to accept a bad contract in deng. They can make salaries match with clarkson and brewer. If the lakers dont trade for george, they wont have access to his bird rights and will have to let go of randle in free agency and stretch either deng or mozgov's deal.

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bad contracts

not only do Lakers fans just want the Pacers to just give them PG, they want Indy to take their trash also? ( Lakers Fans are Cold)

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I think best case scenario

I think best case scenario for Indiana would be to find a way to have Cleveland get both Melo and George for Love.

Love to Minnesota for LaVine and #7, then LaVine for Melo and #7 for George. If not LaVine maybe Rubio? Not sure if NY would accept Rubio.

You have to put tons of contracts in there for it to work but it seems doable on paper with Shumpert the only long contract to throw away and someone that a team should definitely accept taking.

#7 in this year's draft could mean Dennis Smith or something and already put the Pacers in a fine place.

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Wow is this bad!

You're forgetting MN has had Love already. They already know he doesn't play a lick of defense and is not a team player. That's exactly why Clevland would like to get rid of him. We wouldn't trade him for LaVine straight up.

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These trades dont work in so

These trades dont work in so many ways.

Cavs can't afford both Melo and George. Not by cutting the salary of Love alone. MN also isn't giving up LaVine (promising young player) + 7 for Kevin Love.

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Cavs can afford them. They

Cavs can afford them. They just need to get rid of expiring contracts, Channing Frye and Iman Shumpert in addition to Love.

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Frye is paid through next

Frye is paid through next year. Shump is paid through next year with a player option for the following year.

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I don't think it'd be that

I don't think it'd be that bad for the Pacers to take on Dengs contract if they also get Clarkson and #2. Clarkson at least can start this year so no need to resign Teague for $15 mill or more. Throw Monta in the deal so you at least off that bad contract. Rebuild is in effect with Myles Turner already on the roster for the next 6 + years, the #2 pick.

The last thing you want is to hang onto George, get next to nothing for him (Love makes no sense) and wind up in mid lotto while also losing him. Trade him now you're tanking whether you like it or not and you'll most likely land a top 10 possibly top 5 pick in 2018.

By the way who exactly will the Pacers get to come to Indiana with thier cap space anyways? AND what Pacer fan would want to pay money to go see a mirage of a team knowing full well PG is gone.

I like the idea of drafting Lonzo (although the fit next to Clarkson sucks) and rocking it out from there. I think Jackson could actually make a little more sense but either will be good for the Pacers.

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I don't think it'd be that

I don't think it'd be that bad for the Pacers to take on Dengs contract if they also get Clarkson and #2. Clarkson at least can start this year so no need to resign Teague for $15 mill or more. Throw Monta in the deal so you at least off that bad contract. Rebuild is in effect with Myles Turner already on the roster for the next 6 + years, the #2 pick.

The last thing you want is to hang onto George, get next to nothing for him (Love makes no sense) and wind up in mid lotto while also losing him. Trade him now you're tanking whether you like it or not and you'll most likely land a top 10 possibly top 5 pick in 2018.

By the way who exactly will the Pacers get to come to Indiana with thier cap space anyways? AND what Pacer fan would want to pay money to go see a mirage of a team knowing full well PG is gone.

I like the idea of drafting Lonzo (although the fit next to Clarkson sucks) and rocking it out from there. I think Jackson could actually make a little more sense but either will be good for the Pacers.

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Has anyone taken into

Has anyone taken into consideration that The Lakers do not want PG13?

I am of the belief they do not want that right now. Maybe they consider it in FA after next season, but I highly doubt they trade for him,as they would haveto give up too much that is esential to the team having a solid core goingforward to get him.

They are in the early stages of a rebuild and forcing the issue for fasforwarded success could prove to be a major guarantee of longterm mediocrity.

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Portland

He fits nicely with The Blazers. Can it happen, yes, will it happen, I can only hope. # 15, 20 and salary dump may do it. I suppose 2018 # 1 can be added.

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Both Lillard and McCollum

Both Lillard and McCollum have mentioned wanting the Blazers to go after PG on Twitter. Maybe something like Crabbe, Harkless, Aminu and 2 of their 3 1st rounders for PG + Monte. I would imagine Portland would atleast want to get out of either his or Al Jefferson's contract.

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No one is going to trade

No one is going to trade anything significant for PG unless agrees to resign. The Lakers might give #28 but even then they might try to force the Pacers to take Deng with it.

What most likely will happen is the Pacers keep him until the trade deadline and pass him on to a contender as a rental.

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Could Chicago role the dice

Could Chicago role the dice and try PG13 alongside Butler next season, Chicago have D-Wade on a big one year deal if he opts in and Rondo and Mirotic's deals equal PG13's quite nicely. Both teams have cap space so a further FA could be added to both. Pacers would probably want to move Young and certainly Ellis too. Plus if Chicago went all in for a year then logic would say D-Wade stays for one more fun tilt.

The figures would need working out but Pacers could get a useful asset or two as picks may be added plus they clear a bit of cap space.

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If the Kings grab Isaac or

If the Kings grab Isaac or Tatum at 5 would they deal #10 to Lakers for Russell?

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If the Kings grab Isaac or

If the Kings grab Isaac or Tatum at 5 would they deal #10 to Lakers for Russell?

Lakers grab Ball at 2, but who do they target at 10.

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Turning a 2nd pick into a

Turning a 2nd pick into a 10th pick only two years out would be a net loss to the Lakers. But if Russell doesn't fit then getting a top 10 for him is damage limitation. Zach Collins or Markkanen would seem logical fits. If Monk was still there then Magic would no doubt snap him up.

With Sac having 10th pick I still wonder whether Portland might offer 15th and 20th for 10th and 34th. This gets Portland to the head of the glut of mid first round bigs with 10th and Sac-Town could take say a big and Swingman with 15th and 20th.

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