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  • #6203
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    NBATalk20098
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    What yall think ?

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  • #177580
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    TRC1991
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    ramon sessions is very underrated, people dont seem to realize that sessions scored 44 points in a game this year…he is completely overlooked and from what i believe, a potential top 6-8 PG in the NBA

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  • #177581
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    llperez

    go with rondo, but i think they are both a little overrated to be honest. Sessions has been putting up numbers on a bad team and has had trouble beating out Ridnour for minutes. Rondo still needs a lot of work on his jumper because right now teams play off him. But I’ll give rondo the edge on defense and the fact that he led the celtics in the playoffs this year.

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  • #177586
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    Daprob89
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    Rondo is much better a legit top 5 PG
    He avg 16.9pts 9.7reb 9.8ast in the playoffs we call those a triple double

    But i like how you noted sessions had a 44 point game and that makes him a potential top 10 PG in the league NOOOOO

    Linas Kleiza once had 41 point game in 07-08 season does that make him a top 10 Forward FU[k NO

    Sessions a back-up on any descent team

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  • #177599
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    pointguardfun
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    rondo is already a top 5 – 10 point guard, and had a terrific playoffs this year. 17pts 10rebs and 10asts when rounded off. that’s a triple double. anyways, sessions has shown a LOT.. of promise. i mean 44 points in a game, the he also had a game where in he registered 20+ assists. but i’m still going with rondo, future all-star and an NBA champ. would’ve been better if it is rondo VS rose.

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  • #177698
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    sheltwon3
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    Sessions has a few games on 20 and 20. Also Session defense is decent. He is not as quick as Rondo but he can shoot. Rondo can’t.

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  • #177700
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    sheltwon3
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    I believe after this coming year is over Sessions will overtake Rondo. Ridnour got minute because of politics. Bucks dont know what direction they want to go and Sessions can play both positions. Jennings will get screwed because he was drafted just in case Sessions left and will probably not dig into Sessions playing time much. Jennings will be the Bayless of this year.

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  • #177702
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    sheltwon3
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    The Rondo versus Rose comment means you probably are underestimating Sessions who has shone enough to warrant being on their level. It is not his fault half the starters were hurt and Skiles kept giving minutes to Ridnour because they did not want to alienate him when Sessions could jet on this this year.

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  • #177703
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    i think jennings will get on the court because of the fact hes so talented (more so then bayless because he actually is a pg)and sessions can play the 2 sometimes…i cant really say whos better till i see what sessions does this year…we all know how players play when they are playing for contracts..its after the sign that contract that tells us who they really are

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  • #177726
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    xbadgerhustler
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    I agree with josh about the contract-year phenomenon… we’ll see if sessions gets a big contract and then how he plays if he gets one. He could also just end up having to play for the one-year qualifying offer and then we might be able to get another contract year outta the guy, not that I’m bucks fan, just a fan of good basketball.

    I also agree with others that Sessions is not in the discussion with Rondo. I think that Sessions is a slightly better distributor and much better perimeter shooter, but it stops there. I admittedly have seen very little of Sessions, but from his numbers he reminds me a lot of Terrell Brandon. A very efficient shooter who distributes well and will get a decent number of thefts.

    I think Rondo outclasses Sessions in his sheer athleticism and physical gifts (namely those long arms). Though athleticism doesn’t necessarily translate into being a good player, Rondo uses his speed/quickness to get to the basket at will and to pickpocket the opposition. I’d also say that he’s a much better finisher than sessions just based on the fact that he shot such a high FG% last year despite his horrendous jumper. And then there’s his rebounding ability… there’s just no substitute for that (a lot of this is a result of his leaping ability, body control, and THOSE ARMS!)

    Having a PG who can rebound is a huge bonus because it allows him to get out on the break quicker (no outlet pass necessary). I’ve also been impressed with Rondo’s knack for finding shooters at the 3pt line in transition. I’m a huge proponent of the 7 seconds or less 3 pointer. I think that’s a great way to build momentum and if you run two or three together you can really kill any life/fire in an opponent.

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  • #177753
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    sheltwon3
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    Sessions can rebound too and also Rondo has yet to improve much on his perimeter game like Tony Parker has. Also being a much better distributor is big if you are asking who is the best point guard and also Sessions has some size since he can play the two at time. I would give Rondo the edge now but like i said after next year and you can not really say that Sessions did this for a contract year when he was second rounder who was only signed to 2 years. He looks like he could be like Arenas and Ellis in how he come out big from the second round but I doubt he does a Ellis and get hurt. Rondo is quicker than Steve Nash by a lot but because Nash can shoot he can still get to lane because people have to respect his shot. Rondo just has to outquick people because most teams want him to shoot. If you look at that and go off of total offensive contribution, Sessions and Rondo are close to equal and as for defense and long arms. Rondo is 6’1″ 6’2″ with long arms and Sessions is 6’3″ 6’4″ with a decent wingspan. There is not as much of a difference when you consider that Sessions is stronger than Rondo and can play physical while Rondo relies on his length. Rondo is the most attractive pick because many people have seen him with being in the playoffs and all but that is his only edge to me. The Celtics could possibly be better with Sessions running the point. They would have more shooters on the floor and a better distributor. If you look at the Celtics age and style Rondo being that quick is not always an asset.

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  • #177766
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    Knicksboy34
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    Rajon Rondo made it to the playoffs…he is a amazing PG who is a jump shot away from being the best PG in the East.

    Sessions needs to get to the playoffs 1st.

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  • #177778
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    sheltwon3
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    I joined your website but rondo make the playoffs because of his team and not just him but he did play well. I think if Session goes to the right team he could shine in the playoffs. I do understand that Rondo has gotten that edge right now but i believe Sessions game as point guard is more efficient than Rondo. Rondo needs to be a better playmaker and shooter and then I will have nothing to say. I just doubt he will ever be a good shooter.

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  • #177779
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Sessions is nice, but Rondo will eat his ass for breakfast at this point.

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  • #177780
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    Knicksboy34
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    I agree to a point. I think Session is good but Rondo seems quicker and a better slasher.

    also check you e-mail, it will not say u signed up until you enter your email and agree to the terms….

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  • #177781
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    it took parker more than 3 years to get a jump shot sheltwon..and he ramon is not the rebounder rondo is in any compacity..hes average at best..his rebounding numbers is 3 a game so im guessing thats about average for a pg..im also not seeing where the better shooter thing is comming from ramon shot 17percent from 3 last year..how is that a better shooter?…hes also not the passer that rondo is..i think we are getting a tad ahead of our selfs on what sessions is right at this moment…ya’ll do know that rondo only played 6 more min a game then sessions too right?? and ramon gets most of his points off of drives yet shoots a lower percentage…has anyone did there home work on this..knicksboy im shocked that you havnt brought these points up..shame on you..lol

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  • #177795
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    xbadgerhustler
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    I said Ramon is a SLIGHTLY better distributor than Rondo, and that’s debatable. racking up 20 assists in a game is impressive though.

    I’ve seen Rondo either go end-to-end on a fast break BY HIMSELF (he doesn’t need the rest of his team) and like I mentioned before, I’ve also seen him get countless 3’s to Allen/Pierce/House on the fastbreak, so I disagree, his team can fast-break.

    I could have been wrong about Sessions being a good shooter. I don’t know if there is a WORSE shooter, especially for a guard, than Mr. Rondo.

    Rondo DOMINATED in the playoffs this year- he was EVERYWHERE. Sessions will never take over a game like Rondo can. Rondo is a beast

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  • #177802
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    yeah but when you go by passing you have to go by awhole season not just a game..rondo averaged almost 8 more assists..i dont know of any proof that says ramon is a better passer?…obviously though there isnt a worst shooter from three point range then sessions when you shoot 17percent from 3 u know…my last write up was answering sheltwon

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  • #177815
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    xbadgerhustler
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    josh, you can definitely make the argument that it’s much easier for Rondo to pick up a dime, considering that he plays with 3 great offensive players. just a thought.

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  • #177824
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    his dimes were still good after garnett went down and ray allen was struggling…it doesnt matter who he has around him if you watch him play he sets up teammates very nicely…..hes better then sessions by far sessions hasnt shown any indications that he is or will be better point blank..best way to show you are better is prove it which he has not

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  • #358403
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    pattymills

    some of us are looking dumb.

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  • #358409
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    IndianaBasketball
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    This thread just makes Sheltwon look horrible lol. “I believe after this coming year is over Sessions will overtake Rondo.” Lol.

    You see what I said up there though… “Sessions is nice, but Rondo will eat his ass for breakfast at this point.”

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  • #358411
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    JNixon
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    Wow!!

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  • #358414
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    IndianaBasketball
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    LOL… kurtis rice is also one of Stanford Hoops’ many user names lol.

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  • #358416
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    SDE
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    Let me think rondo is in the conversation of top 5 pg inthe league, working out for the USA team with other great player
    Ramon is doing what; yeah nobody knows he better get his game right cause the T-Wolves trying to trade his A@s.

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  • #358417
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    JNixon
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    L M A O…I had no idea. He type and hs that same way of answering questions Stanfordhoops does hahaha. I was wondering what y’all meant when y’all said Quincey had a bunch of usernames.

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  • #358424
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    IndianaBasketball
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    “Jennings will be the Bayless of this year.”

    Sheltwon has some explaining to do…

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  • #358503
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    JNixon
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    ^LMAOOOO

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  • #358520
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    Platypus
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    “he is completely overlooked and from what i believe, a potential top 6-8 PG in the NBA”

    i wanna see your top 15 list

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  • #358945
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    sheltwon3
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    I owned up to the Sessions thing and he as not gotten time for whatever reasons. I knew Jennings was good so dont even go there. Who would have thought Minny would sign Sessions. It really didnt make any sense and was probably the worst place he could have gone too. I did not realize Bucks would just let all those guys go for nothing.

    That quote about Bayless was saying if Sessions stayed Jennings would be a good player that would not get any minutes but with Sessions leaving, Jennings got all the minutes in the world and sometimes Ridnour ate into those minutes.

    Can you imagine if Sessions would have stayed or if he took less money to play for the Knicks. I think Sessions is better than Felton and Felton is bout to earn himself a lot of money with his play this coming season.

    I wrong about one thing and it is funny how you guys go to old post just to knock me. That takes time and effort

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