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- Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 4:46am #32569
jjonzParticipantElite PF’s in no particular order.
ZBO: He showed last year that he has matured & can be relied on to be a 1st/2nd option on a deep playoff team. The Question is the motivation behind the outcome, was it truly a guy that finally got it or was it playing for the last big contract of my career?
ZBO? 4yr60 mill deal for ZBO/4 yr 80mill for RGay/4 yr 40mill for MConley. Thats the Core that the Grizz are going forward with. How far can Grizz go with a 30/31 yr old PF as one of the Center Pieces of your Chise. Western Confer Finals? or 3-4 yrs of Playoff Runs i.e Atlanta Hawks.
PGasol: What was going on with him in the playoffs last year. Is this the end of PGasol being one of the Top PF or was last year just a bad year
PG? How will he work playing for a Coach who is more defensive minded?
KLove: He is a great player, who i think can be a 2nd option on a Chip team.
KLove?: If minny does’nt win soon will he bolt for greener pastures? Hello Boston
LA. I think he is the Best PF in the Game. If he can continue to play the way he did last year and add more range to his shot he will be a Duncan type of offensive player.
LA? If he is the best player on the blazers, how far can he lead them?
BGriffin. A True Beast
BG? Will he avoid the Sophmore slump that some players go through, Can he add more to his offensive game to complement his immense physical talents.
Amare. He showed true leadership with the Knicks last year. Being a Leader in the Locker room and on the court.
STATS? Can he play 2nd fiddle to Melo? Will he get enough shots to still be effective in NY?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 5:27am #588342
ghrghrParticipantLamarcus Aldridge is a great player, but what about Dirk?
Having said that, LA can be a 25-10 player if he improves just a little. He is just 26, so he is just entering his prime. I believe he can lead a team to a championship if he has a player of similar skill with him. If Brandon Roy recovers just a little and Greg Oden finally is able to play Portland is in pretty good shape.
I’ll give Kevin Love credit when his team wins 25 games.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 5:27am #588344
ghrghrParticipantLamarcus Aldridge is a great player, but what about Dirk?
Having said that, LA can be a 25-10 player if he improves just a little. He is just 26, so he is just entering his prime. I believe he can lead a team to a championship if he has a player of similar skill with him. If Brandon Roy recovers just a little and Greg Oden finally is able to play Portland is in pretty good shape.
I’ll give Kevin Love credit when his team wins 25 games.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 5:27am #587923
ghrghrParticipantLamarcus Aldridge is a great player, but what about Dirk?
Having said that, LA can be a 25-10 player if he improves just a little. He is just 26, so he is just entering his prime. I believe he can lead a team to a championship if he has a player of similar skill with him. If Brandon Roy recovers just a little and Greg Oden finally is able to play Portland is in pretty good shape.
I’ll give Kevin Love credit when his team wins 25 games.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 5:41am #588346
WizardofOzParticipantKevin Love is so overrated. Love may get rebounds but he is a horrible defensive player. Look how many blocks he gets. Also he has no reliable post game to speak of, basically a jump shooter. There is a reason why Timberwolves suck so bad. Love is a stat stuffer but number reveals he is undersized and horrible defender. He also has no reliable post game. He’s Antawn Jamison without the flip shot. He is role playing bench player that is looking to be treated like a superstar because he good at collecting misses. At best, he’s a 6th man on a championship team.
That will not let you win against the elite teams and that’s why timberwolves would trade him in a heart beat if they can get a bigger PF that can play in the post offensively and block shots.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 5:41am #588347
WizardofOzParticipantKevin Love is so overrated. Love may get rebounds but he is a horrible defensive player. Look how many blocks he gets. Also he has no reliable post game to speak of, basically a jump shooter. There is a reason why Timberwolves suck so bad. Love is a stat stuffer but number reveals he is undersized and horrible defender. He also has no reliable post game. He’s Antawn Jamison without the flip shot. He is role playing bench player that is looking to be treated like a superstar because he good at collecting misses. At best, he’s a 6th man on a championship team.
That will not let you win against the elite teams and that’s why timberwolves would trade him in a heart beat if they can get a bigger PF that can play in the post offensively and block shots.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 5:41am #587926
WizardofOzParticipantKevin Love is so overrated. Love may get rebounds but he is a horrible defensive player. Look how many blocks he gets. Also he has no reliable post game to speak of, basically a jump shooter. There is a reason why Timberwolves suck so bad. Love is a stat stuffer but number reveals he is undersized and horrible defender. He also has no reliable post game. He’s Antawn Jamison without the flip shot. He is role playing bench player that is looking to be treated like a superstar because he good at collecting misses. At best, he’s a 6th man on a championship team.
That will not let you win against the elite teams and that’s why timberwolves would trade him in a heart beat if they can get a bigger PF that can play in the post offensively and block shots.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 6:41am #588367
JoeWolf1Kevin Love got an All-Star bid this year he probably didn’t deserve and put up monster stats for a terrible team, but the guy is still only 22 years old. I think he still has quite a bit of room to improve as a player, maybe not stat wise, but as far as game development goes. I don’t think you can count Love a finished product at 22 years old, I feel he still has upside.
Defense is the aspect of the NBA that young players have the most trouble adapting to, and I think Love can at least be an average defender in a couple years, same goes for his post game. A lot of people don’t like him or his game, but he’s not a finished product. People are always talking about O.J. Mayo, Eric Gordon, Bayless and other guys in his class getting better, and I guess I just don’t get why people treat Love like he’s not going to get any better.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 6:41am #588368
JoeWolf1Kevin Love got an All-Star bid this year he probably didn’t deserve and put up monster stats for a terrible team, but the guy is still only 22 years old. I think he still has quite a bit of room to improve as a player, maybe not stat wise, but as far as game development goes. I don’t think you can count Love a finished product at 22 years old, I feel he still has upside.
Defense is the aspect of the NBA that young players have the most trouble adapting to, and I think Love can at least be an average defender in a couple years, same goes for his post game. A lot of people don’t like him or his game, but he’s not a finished product. People are always talking about O.J. Mayo, Eric Gordon, Bayless and other guys in his class getting better, and I guess I just don’t get why people treat Love like he’s not going to get any better.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 6:41am #587947
JoeWolf1Kevin Love got an All-Star bid this year he probably didn’t deserve and put up monster stats for a terrible team, but the guy is still only 22 years old. I think he still has quite a bit of room to improve as a player, maybe not stat wise, but as far as game development goes. I don’t think you can count Love a finished product at 22 years old, I feel he still has upside.
Defense is the aspect of the NBA that young players have the most trouble adapting to, and I think Love can at least be an average defender in a couple years, same goes for his post game. A lot of people don’t like him or his game, but he’s not a finished product. People are always talking about O.J. Mayo, Eric Gordon, Bayless and other guys in his class getting better, and I guess I just don’t get why people treat Love like he’s not going to get any better.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 7:28am #588430
WinterSoldierParticipantSomeone who averaged 15 rebounds(at 22 years old) a game is a sixth man? I have never seen anyone else do that on a terrible team. Love is a special player who will get better, Blake Griffin, Amare Stoudamire, Dirk Nowitski, Pau Gasol at one point were considered or still are bad defenders and I didn’t even list a quarter of the PFs considered bad defenders. Yet somehow single out Kevin Love for his bad defense. Also according to 82games.com LaMarcus Aldridge had a Production #22.8 his opponent 15.6 giving him +7.2 Kevin Love had 26.2 his opponent 15.1 giving him +11.1 so apparently he is a better defender than Aldridge is.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 7:28am #588432
WinterSoldierParticipantSomeone who averaged 15 rebounds(at 22 years old) a game is a sixth man? I have never seen anyone else do that on a terrible team. Love is a special player who will get better, Blake Griffin, Amare Stoudamire, Dirk Nowitski, Pau Gasol at one point were considered or still are bad defenders and I didn’t even list a quarter of the PFs considered bad defenders. Yet somehow single out Kevin Love for his bad defense. Also according to 82games.com LaMarcus Aldridge had a Production #22.8 his opponent 15.6 giving him +7.2 Kevin Love had 26.2 his opponent 15.1 giving him +11.1 so apparently he is a better defender than Aldridge is.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 7:28am #588011
WinterSoldierParticipantSomeone who averaged 15 rebounds(at 22 years old) a game is a sixth man? I have never seen anyone else do that on a terrible team. Love is a special player who will get better, Blake Griffin, Amare Stoudamire, Dirk Nowitski, Pau Gasol at one point were considered or still are bad defenders and I didn’t even list a quarter of the PFs considered bad defenders. Yet somehow single out Kevin Love for his bad defense. Also according to 82games.com LaMarcus Aldridge had a Production #22.8 his opponent 15.6 giving him +7.2 Kevin Love had 26.2 his opponent 15.1 giving him +11.1 so apparently he is a better defender than Aldridge is.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 7:44am #588439
river09ParticipantI agree with joewolf here. KLove will only get better. he’s only 22 and he will become a better defender/post player with time. While he will never be a huge shot blocking presence he can become effective. He’s a great shooter/rebounder so he has his niche until then… I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he could be a #2 or #3 scorer on a competitive team in 5(!) years if he develops his game well. There is no denying his work ethic and bball IQ. I would say he’s more of a team player than a 1, 2, 3 option though; he will do the dirty work and clean up his teammates mistakes so he will always put up numbers and get recognition for it, to say he’s overrated is almost silly because in my opinion his style of play is very unique compared to the super athletic all-stars (i’m not saying he’s a all-star) dominating the game today, so personally it’s cool that he gets the recognition for it… (yes… i am a wolves fan so i am very very biased..)
ZBO has really found a home in memphis. He has always had the great ability to just put the ball in the hoop, and he’s found a place where he can try do it to impunity and no one really hates him for it… Last year wasn’t a fluke.. the atlanta hawks are a great comparison to this team, 3-4 playoff seasons sounds about right; they could go on runs but i don’t see a championship team unless gay and conley really really step up..
I’ve never been a huge pau gasol fan just because he never blew me away… being 7 ft tall always helps on turnaround jumpers and hook shots but when your shot is off and you’re playing against super aggressive defenders and you become frustrated, you can be neutralized… but i wouldn’t be worried… he’s averaged what… 18-21 ppg his entire career no reason to think it will all of a sudden drop to 13…
LA is one of my favorites.. He’s just one of those players who turned out well.. Sit back and enjoy (hopefully he’s still in his prime whenever the nba gets back into action)…
Blake Griffin. what else needs to be said… no way he has a sophomore slump… I’m sorry but he is just too explosive. I am curious for how many seasons he can remain that explosive though..
Amare will get enough touches to be effective…. Amare and melo playing together being an issue?… they’re both great players, they’ll get their touches and numbers.. if the team gels there’s nothing to worry about.. they’ll win games… and everyone will be happy… but if the team doesn’t gel together and everyone is concerned about the numbers and they don’t play together… they won’t win games.. and no one will be happy… I think there is too much emphasis on who is number 1 and 2 and 3 options these days… if anything the mavs proved this year Teams win championships. sure having great players is a huge key… lol there have been a ton of great players on bad teams.. if the team doesn’t rally around and work together… it just doesn’t matter..
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 7:44am #588441
river09ParticipantI agree with joewolf here. KLove will only get better. he’s only 22 and he will become a better defender/post player with time. While he will never be a huge shot blocking presence he can become effective. He’s a great shooter/rebounder so he has his niche until then… I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he could be a #2 or #3 scorer on a competitive team in 5(!) years if he develops his game well. There is no denying his work ethic and bball IQ. I would say he’s more of a team player than a 1, 2, 3 option though; he will do the dirty work and clean up his teammates mistakes so he will always put up numbers and get recognition for it, to say he’s overrated is almost silly because in my opinion his style of play is very unique compared to the super athletic all-stars (i’m not saying he’s a all-star) dominating the game today, so personally it’s cool that he gets the recognition for it… (yes… i am a wolves fan so i am very very biased..)
ZBO has really found a home in memphis. He has always had the great ability to just put the ball in the hoop, and he’s found a place where he can try do it to impunity and no one really hates him for it… Last year wasn’t a fluke.. the atlanta hawks are a great comparison to this team, 3-4 playoff seasons sounds about right; they could go on runs but i don’t see a championship team unless gay and conley really really step up..
I’ve never been a huge pau gasol fan just because he never blew me away… being 7 ft tall always helps on turnaround jumpers and hook shots but when your shot is off and you’re playing against super aggressive defenders and you become frustrated, you can be neutralized… but i wouldn’t be worried… he’s averaged what… 18-21 ppg his entire career no reason to think it will all of a sudden drop to 13…
LA is one of my favorites.. He’s just one of those players who turned out well.. Sit back and enjoy (hopefully he’s still in his prime whenever the nba gets back into action)…
Blake Griffin. what else needs to be said… no way he has a sophomore slump… I’m sorry but he is just too explosive. I am curious for how many seasons he can remain that explosive though..
Amare will get enough touches to be effective…. Amare and melo playing together being an issue?… they’re both great players, they’ll get their touches and numbers.. if the team gels there’s nothing to worry about.. they’ll win games… and everyone will be happy… but if the team doesn’t gel together and everyone is concerned about the numbers and they don’t play together… they won’t win games.. and no one will be happy… I think there is too much emphasis on who is number 1 and 2 and 3 options these days… if anything the mavs proved this year Teams win championships. sure having great players is a huge key… lol there have been a ton of great players on bad teams.. if the team doesn’t rally around and work together… it just doesn’t matter..
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 7:44am #588018
river09ParticipantI agree with joewolf here. KLove will only get better. he’s only 22 and he will become a better defender/post player with time. While he will never be a huge shot blocking presence he can become effective. He’s a great shooter/rebounder so he has his niche until then… I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he could be a #2 or #3 scorer on a competitive team in 5(!) years if he develops his game well. There is no denying his work ethic and bball IQ. I would say he’s more of a team player than a 1, 2, 3 option though; he will do the dirty work and clean up his teammates mistakes so he will always put up numbers and get recognition for it, to say he’s overrated is almost silly because in my opinion his style of play is very unique compared to the super athletic all-stars (i’m not saying he’s a all-star) dominating the game today, so personally it’s cool that he gets the recognition for it… (yes… i am a wolves fan so i am very very biased..)
ZBO has really found a home in memphis. He has always had the great ability to just put the ball in the hoop, and he’s found a place where he can try do it to impunity and no one really hates him for it… Last year wasn’t a fluke.. the atlanta hawks are a great comparison to this team, 3-4 playoff seasons sounds about right; they could go on runs but i don’t see a championship team unless gay and conley really really step up..
I’ve never been a huge pau gasol fan just because he never blew me away… being 7 ft tall always helps on turnaround jumpers and hook shots but when your shot is off and you’re playing against super aggressive defenders and you become frustrated, you can be neutralized… but i wouldn’t be worried… he’s averaged what… 18-21 ppg his entire career no reason to think it will all of a sudden drop to 13…
LA is one of my favorites.. He’s just one of those players who turned out well.. Sit back and enjoy (hopefully he’s still in his prime whenever the nba gets back into action)…
Blake Griffin. what else needs to be said… no way he has a sophomore slump… I’m sorry but he is just too explosive. I am curious for how many seasons he can remain that explosive though..
Amare will get enough touches to be effective…. Amare and melo playing together being an issue?… they’re both great players, they’ll get their touches and numbers.. if the team gels there’s nothing to worry about.. they’ll win games… and everyone will be happy… but if the team doesn’t gel together and everyone is concerned about the numbers and they don’t play together… they won’t win games.. and no one will be happy… I think there is too much emphasis on who is number 1 and 2 and 3 options these days… if anything the mavs proved this year Teams win championships. sure having great players is a huge key… lol there have been a ton of great players on bad teams.. if the team doesn’t rally around and work together… it just doesn’t matter..
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 8:01am #588448
Memphis MadnessParticipantZ Bo is a franchise guy who needs another guy to help him put a team over the top. Never saw the 1983 Sixers play but they had Moses Malone getting 20 and 10 in the paint with Dr. J as the team’s perimeter threat. Not saying that Rudy Gay is the next Dr. J (Dr. Gay?), but what I have seen of Moses Malone reminds me of Z Bo. Then the Sixers had a small, pass-first point guard with smarts (Maurice Cheeks), a smallish shooting guard with good scoring skills and a killer instinct (Andrew Toney), and a defensive, dunking power forward off the bench (Bobby Jones). Not saying that Mike Conley is the next Mo Cheeks (MC 2.0), or that OJ Mayo is the next Andrew Toney, or that Darrell Arthur is the next Bobby Jones. But, the teams are set up similarly so the Grizzlies might need to pattern their season next year after that great Sixers team. The ’83 Sixers used Marc Iavaroni as their fifth starter (power forward) and Macr Gasol is a MUCH betteer player than Iavaroni. Ironically, Iavaroni used to coach the Grizzlies.
Not sure who the rest of the ’83 Sixers were, maybe Caldwell Jones was on that team. But, Dr. J was a great NBA player who never put a team over the top by himself (one of his Sixers team lost to the Bill Walton-led Blazers in 1977 — a championship team that started Lionel Hollins). Moses Malone carried the 40-42 Rockets to the NBA Finals against the Celtics before losing in 6 games. That team had basically Moses Malone, an aging Calvin Murphy, a couple of good wings/guards, and a chubby white center. Incidentally, that team beat the 40-42 Kansas City Kings to get to the Finals. So, Moses Malone carried a team similar to the Gay-less (can I say that?) team to the Finals but needed a high scoring, high flying small forward to get him over the top.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 8:01am #588450
Memphis MadnessParticipantZ Bo is a franchise guy who needs another guy to help him put a team over the top. Never saw the 1983 Sixers play but they had Moses Malone getting 20 and 10 in the paint with Dr. J as the team’s perimeter threat. Not saying that Rudy Gay is the next Dr. J (Dr. Gay?), but what I have seen of Moses Malone reminds me of Z Bo. Then the Sixers had a small, pass-first point guard with smarts (Maurice Cheeks), a smallish shooting guard with good scoring skills and a killer instinct (Andrew Toney), and a defensive, dunking power forward off the bench (Bobby Jones). Not saying that Mike Conley is the next Mo Cheeks (MC 2.0), or that OJ Mayo is the next Andrew Toney, or that Darrell Arthur is the next Bobby Jones. But, the teams are set up similarly so the Grizzlies might need to pattern their season next year after that great Sixers team. The ’83 Sixers used Marc Iavaroni as their fifth starter (power forward) and Macr Gasol is a MUCH betteer player than Iavaroni. Ironically, Iavaroni used to coach the Grizzlies.
Not sure who the rest of the ’83 Sixers were, maybe Caldwell Jones was on that team. But, Dr. J was a great NBA player who never put a team over the top by himself (one of his Sixers team lost to the Bill Walton-led Blazers in 1977 — a championship team that started Lionel Hollins). Moses Malone carried the 40-42 Rockets to the NBA Finals against the Celtics before losing in 6 games. That team had basically Moses Malone, an aging Calvin Murphy, a couple of good wings/guards, and a chubby white center. Incidentally, that team beat the 40-42 Kansas City Kings to get to the Finals. So, Moses Malone carried a team similar to the Gay-less (can I say that?) team to the Finals but needed a high scoring, high flying small forward to get him over the top.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 8:01am #588029
Memphis MadnessParticipantZ Bo is a franchise guy who needs another guy to help him put a team over the top. Never saw the 1983 Sixers play but they had Moses Malone getting 20 and 10 in the paint with Dr. J as the team’s perimeter threat. Not saying that Rudy Gay is the next Dr. J (Dr. Gay?), but what I have seen of Moses Malone reminds me of Z Bo. Then the Sixers had a small, pass-first point guard with smarts (Maurice Cheeks), a smallish shooting guard with good scoring skills and a killer instinct (Andrew Toney), and a defensive, dunking power forward off the bench (Bobby Jones). Not saying that Mike Conley is the next Mo Cheeks (MC 2.0), or that OJ Mayo is the next Andrew Toney, or that Darrell Arthur is the next Bobby Jones. But, the teams are set up similarly so the Grizzlies might need to pattern their season next year after that great Sixers team. The ’83 Sixers used Marc Iavaroni as their fifth starter (power forward) and Macr Gasol is a MUCH betteer player than Iavaroni. Ironically, Iavaroni used to coach the Grizzlies.
Not sure who the rest of the ’83 Sixers were, maybe Caldwell Jones was on that team. But, Dr. J was a great NBA player who never put a team over the top by himself (one of his Sixers team lost to the Bill Walton-led Blazers in 1977 — a championship team that started Lionel Hollins). Moses Malone carried the 40-42 Rockets to the NBA Finals against the Celtics before losing in 6 games. That team had basically Moses Malone, an aging Calvin Murphy, a couple of good wings/guards, and a chubby white center. Incidentally, that team beat the 40-42 Kansas City Kings to get to the Finals. So, Moses Malone carried a team similar to the Gay-less (can I say that?) team to the Finals but needed a high scoring, high flying small forward to get him over the top.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 8:15am #588047
iguapops420ParticipantWizrdOfOz, you have embarrassed ME with your post. SMH. The guy averaged 20 and 15 on a non playoff team. I never heard anyone saying these kinds of things about KG when he played with Minny not getting as many rebounds and had even LESS talent around him to steal rebounds and such. Any guy who can get you numbers like that is no bench player. He’s a STAR 3rd option. He’s like a super Horace grant. Put him on LAL, you’d see 16-17 ppg, 12-14 rbs STILL along with a couple of assists and a tough game. His ability to hit jumpers would actually benefit a team like that as it would allow Kobe and Bynum to dominate the post whie having a terrfic shooter/passer at the 4 to spread the floor.
6th man? Bench player? Really?
0- Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 9:27am #588559
WizardofOzParticipantForum MVP JNixon-Iggy9 agrees with me too.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 9:27am #588560
WizardofOzParticipantForum MVP JNixon-Iggy9 agrees with me too.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 9:27am #588141
WizardofOzParticipantForum MVP JNixon-Iggy9 agrees with me too.
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- Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 8:15am #588466
iguapops420ParticipantWizrdOfOz, you have embarrassed ME with your post. SMH. The guy averaged 20 and 15 on a non playoff team. I never heard anyone saying these kinds of things about KG when he played with Minny not getting as many rebounds and had even LESS talent around him to steal rebounds and such. Any guy who can get you numbers like that is no bench player. He’s a STAR 3rd option. He’s like a super Horace grant. Put him on LAL, you’d see 16-17 ppg, 12-14 rbs STILL along with a couple of assists and a tough game. His ability to hit jumpers would actually benefit a team like that as it would allow Kobe and Bynum to dominate the post whie having a terrfic shooter/passer at the 4 to spread the floor.
6th man? Bench player? Really?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 8:15am #588467
iguapops420ParticipantWizrdOfOz, you have embarrassed ME with your post. SMH. The guy averaged 20 and 15 on a non playoff team. I never heard anyone saying these kinds of things about KG when he played with Minny not getting as many rebounds and had even LESS talent around him to steal rebounds and such. Any guy who can get you numbers like that is no bench player. He’s a STAR 3rd option. He’s like a super Horace grant. Put him on LAL, you’d see 16-17 ppg, 12-14 rbs STILL along with a couple of assists and a tough game. His ability to hit jumpers would actually benefit a team like that as it would allow Kobe and Bynum to dominate the post whie having a terrfic shooter/passer at the 4 to spread the floor.
6th man? Bench player? Really?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 9:32am #588567
jjonzParticipantmy bad Dirk is the baddest man on the planet. Some say he is the most unguardable player in the L.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 9:32am #588569
jjonzParticipantmy bad Dirk is the baddest man on the planet. Some say he is the most unguardable player in the L.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 9:32am #588149
jjonzParticipantmy bad Dirk is the baddest man on the planet. Some say he is the most unguardable player in the L.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 9:36am #588574
jjonzParticipantthat is an interesting way to look @ the Grizz
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 9:36am #588575
jjonzParticipantthat is an interesting way to look @ the Grizz
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 9:36am #588156
jjonzParticipantthat is an interesting way to look @ the Grizz
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 9:44am #588586
IndianaBasketballParticipantLmao… You went HAM on Love.
I like Love. I just want to see him lose more of the midsection and care about moving his feet on defense.
He’s DEFINITELY a starter in this league though, unless there’s a Dirk, Pau, Stoudemire, Z-Bo, Griffin, Aldridge, Bosh, etc in front of him.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 9:44am #588587
IndianaBasketballParticipantLmao… You went HAM on Love.
I like Love. I just want to see him lose more of the midsection and care about moving his feet on defense.
He’s DEFINITELY a starter in this league though, unless there’s a Dirk, Pau, Stoudemire, Z-Bo, Griffin, Aldridge, Bosh, etc in front of him.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 9:44am #588167
IndianaBasketballParticipantLmao… You went HAM on Love.
I like Love. I just want to see him lose more of the midsection and care about moving his feet on defense.
He’s DEFINITELY a starter in this league though, unless there’s a Dirk, Pau, Stoudemire, Z-Bo, Griffin, Aldridge, Bosh, etc in front of him.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 9:50am #588592
Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant"Forum MVP JNixon-Iggy9 agrees with me too."
Yes, then it must be right.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 9:50am #588594
Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant"Forum MVP JNixon-Iggy9 agrees with me too."
Yes, then it must be right.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 9:50am #588173
Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant"Forum MVP JNixon-Iggy9 agrees with me too."
Yes, then it must be right.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 9:52am #588595
IndianaBasketballParticipantLmao
I gave him a point just for posting that.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 9:52am #588596
IndianaBasketballParticipantLmao
I gave him a point just for posting that.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 9:52am #588176
IndianaBasketballParticipantLmao
I gave him a point just for posting that.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 1:39pm #588688
WizardofOzParticipant"Forum MVP JNixon-Iggy9 agrees with me too."
"Yes, then it must be right."
Exactly lol.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 1:39pm #588690
WizardofOzParticipant"Forum MVP JNixon-Iggy9 agrees with me too."
"Yes, then it must be right."
Exactly lol.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 1:39pm #588270
WizardofOzParticipant"Forum MVP JNixon-Iggy9 agrees with me too."
"Yes, then it must be right."
Exactly lol.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 2:00pm #588698
iguapops420ParticipantWhen has JNixon stated that he’s simply a 6th man in this league? As often as he and I disagree on things, I just can’t see him thinking that. Perhaps he doesn’t see a 20-15 guy, but certainly not a 6th man bench player. This isn’t Reggie Evans we’re talking about.
BTW, did you make this statement about Love simply because you may have saw JNixon say it at some point in the season or prior?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 2:00pm #588699
iguapops420ParticipantWhen has JNixon stated that he’s simply a 6th man in this league? As often as he and I disagree on things, I just can’t see him thinking that. Perhaps he doesn’t see a 20-15 guy, but certainly not a 6th man bench player. This isn’t Reggie Evans we’re talking about.
BTW, did you make this statement about Love simply because you may have saw JNixon say it at some point in the season or prior?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 2:00pm #588279
iguapops420ParticipantWhen has JNixon stated that he’s simply a 6th man in this league? As often as he and I disagree on things, I just can’t see him thinking that. Perhaps he doesn’t see a 20-15 guy, but certainly not a 6th man bench player. This isn’t Reggie Evans we’re talking about.
BTW, did you make this statement about Love simply because you may have saw JNixon say it at some point in the season or prior?
0- Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 2:17pm #588288
WizardofOzParticipant"Blake Griffin to me just by watching the game is better than Love is. Love is probably a better rebounder and jump shooter, but he’s not a better basketball player by any stretch. Griffin is a better and far more impressive finisher, just as good a passer (which continues to surprise me, never knew he was the passer he is), and he’s already a notch or 2 better on D. Griffin will be a superstar, Kevin Love seems like a 6th man on a truly good team."
http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/blake-vs-love
And no I didn’t make this statement just because JNixon said it. I’ve always thought this.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 2:17pm #588707
WizardofOzParticipant"Blake Griffin to me just by watching the game is better than Love is. Love is probably a better rebounder and jump shooter, but he’s not a better basketball player by any stretch. Griffin is a better and far more impressive finisher, just as good a passer (which continues to surprise me, never knew he was the passer he is), and he’s already a notch or 2 better on D. Griffin will be a superstar, Kevin Love seems like a 6th man on a truly good team."
http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/blake-vs-love
And no I didn’t make this statement just because JNixon said it. I’ve always thought this.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 2:17pm #588708
WizardofOzParticipant"Blake Griffin to me just by watching the game is better than Love is. Love is probably a better rebounder and jump shooter, but he’s not a better basketball player by any stretch. Griffin is a better and far more impressive finisher, just as good a passer (which continues to surprise me, never knew he was the passer he is), and he’s already a notch or 2 better on D. Griffin will be a superstar, Kevin Love seems like a 6th man on a truly good team."
http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/blake-vs-love
And no I didn’t make this statement just because JNixon said it. I’ve always thought this.
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- Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 2:27pm #588291
ghrghrParticipantKevin Love is definetly not only a sixth man in the league. He is a starter in most teams and still very young, but he has become a little overrated this last season. Don’t see him as a franchise player at all.
He would be a 16-11 player in a better team, shooting a higher %. He should never have been an all-star playing for such a terrible team.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 2:27pm #588710
ghrghrParticipantKevin Love is definetly not only a sixth man in the league. He is a starter in most teams and still very young, but he has become a little overrated this last season. Don’t see him as a franchise player at all.
He would be a 16-11 player in a better team, shooting a higher %. He should never have been an all-star playing for such a terrible team.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 2:27pm #588711
ghrghrParticipantKevin Love is definetly not only a sixth man in the league. He is a starter in most teams and still very young, but he has become a little overrated this last season. Don’t see him as a franchise player at all.
He would be a 16-11 player in a better team, shooting a higher %. He should never have been an all-star playing for such a terrible team.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 4:47pm #588315
iguapops420ParticipantWell, I suppose even a *Forum MVP* like JNixon is entitled to a bad statement every now and again. No way he truely believes that. But again if that *Forum MVP* says it, it must be gospel.
Sorry to dissapoint you, but no player that can grab boards like that is a 6th man. Just not the case. He just isn’t a center piece. Doesn’t help matters that Darko is the big beside of him. Put him beside of an actual defensive minded (and talented) big, and I guarantee you he’s still a winner. Imagine Love beside of Dwight,Bynum,Camby or anyone similar. Minny was a badly coached team, but ELITE rebounding along with a 40% jumper from behind the arc is not a 6th man.
JNixon and yourself are entitled to your opinion, and the rest of us are entitled to our own.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 4:47pm #588734
iguapops420ParticipantWell, I suppose even a *Forum MVP* like JNixon is entitled to a bad statement every now and again. No way he truely believes that. But again if that *Forum MVP* says it, it must be gospel.
Sorry to dissapoint you, but no player that can grab boards like that is a 6th man. Just not the case. He just isn’t a center piece. Doesn’t help matters that Darko is the big beside of him. Put him beside of an actual defensive minded (and talented) big, and I guarantee you he’s still a winner. Imagine Love beside of Dwight,Bynum,Camby or anyone similar. Minny was a badly coached team, but ELITE rebounding along with a 40% jumper from behind the arc is not a 6th man.
JNixon and yourself are entitled to your opinion, and the rest of us are entitled to our own.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 4:47pm #588735
iguapops420ParticipantWell, I suppose even a *Forum MVP* like JNixon is entitled to a bad statement every now and again. No way he truely believes that. But again if that *Forum MVP* says it, it must be gospel.
Sorry to dissapoint you, but no player that can grab boards like that is a 6th man. Just not the case. He just isn’t a center piece. Doesn’t help matters that Darko is the big beside of him. Put him beside of an actual defensive minded (and talented) big, and I guarantee you he’s still a winner. Imagine Love beside of Dwight,Bynum,Camby or anyone similar. Minny was a badly coached team, but ELITE rebounding along with a 40% jumper from behind the arc is not a 6th man.
JNixon and yourself are entitled to your opinion, and the rest of us are entitled to our own.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 7:21pm #588363
stealsgaloreParticipantI haven’t watched enough of his game to comment on his being over or underrated but it seems his combination of jump shooting, passing, and elite rebounding could make him very useful to the right team. He’d be a fantastic second option to an elite (or good, or just decent) low post scoring Center. On teams like the LA (Bynum) San Antonio (Duncan) Orlando (Howard). He wouldn’t clog the post for those players and would still not be a liability on the boards like other jump shooting PF’s (Frye, Lewis, Anderson, etc.)
That being said he does need to work on his defense.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 7:21pm #588782
stealsgaloreParticipantI haven’t watched enough of his game to comment on his being over or underrated but it seems his combination of jump shooting, passing, and elite rebounding could make him very useful to the right team. He’d be a fantastic second option to an elite (or good, or just decent) low post scoring Center. On teams like the LA (Bynum) San Antonio (Duncan) Orlando (Howard). He wouldn’t clog the post for those players and would still not be a liability on the boards like other jump shooting PF’s (Frye, Lewis, Anderson, etc.)
That being said he does need to work on his defense.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 7:21pm #588783
stealsgaloreParticipantI haven’t watched enough of his game to comment on his being over or underrated but it seems his combination of jump shooting, passing, and elite rebounding could make him very useful to the right team. He’d be a fantastic second option to an elite (or good, or just decent) low post scoring Center. On teams like the LA (Bynum) San Antonio (Duncan) Orlando (Howard). He wouldn’t clog the post for those players and would still not be a liability on the boards like other jump shooting PF’s (Frye, Lewis, Anderson, etc.)
That being said he does need to work on his defense.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 8:22pm #588372
llperezfirst off love is still 22 and getting better every season. Hes already crushed all those negative comments he got on draft night when people were killing the wolves for trading him for oj mayo. ANyone want to still say that was a bad trade for minnesota?
As for his teams success last season, the second best player on the wolves was beasley who also sucks on d and brings nothing to the table out side scoring. At least love passes, sets screens, rebounds and spaces the floor with his shooting. ANd after b-easy the next best guy was probnably ridnour. Yeah love sucks for not winning with that team.
I dont know if love deserved to be on the all-star game or not. But that doesnt take away from the great season he had. Minnesota needs to add talent to win, not get rid of it by trading away one of the best young pf’s in the game. At best a 6th man? smh
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 8:22pm #588791
llperezfirst off love is still 22 and getting better every season. Hes already crushed all those negative comments he got on draft night when people were killing the wolves for trading him for oj mayo. ANyone want to still say that was a bad trade for minnesota?
As for his teams success last season, the second best player on the wolves was beasley who also sucks on d and brings nothing to the table out side scoring. At least love passes, sets screens, rebounds and spaces the floor with his shooting. ANd after b-easy the next best guy was probnably ridnour. Yeah love sucks for not winning with that team.
I dont know if love deserved to be on the all-star game or not. But that doesnt take away from the great season he had. Minnesota needs to add talent to win, not get rid of it by trading away one of the best young pf’s in the game. At best a 6th man? smh
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 8:22pm #588792
llperezfirst off love is still 22 and getting better every season. Hes already crushed all those negative comments he got on draft night when people were killing the wolves for trading him for oj mayo. ANyone want to still say that was a bad trade for minnesota?
As for his teams success last season, the second best player on the wolves was beasley who also sucks on d and brings nothing to the table out side scoring. At least love passes, sets screens, rebounds and spaces the floor with his shooting. ANd after b-easy the next best guy was probnably ridnour. Yeah love sucks for not winning with that team.
I dont know if love deserved to be on the all-star game or not. But that doesnt take away from the great season he had. Minnesota needs to add talent to win, not get rid of it by trading away one of the best young pf’s in the game. At best a 6th man? smh
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 8:23pm #588375
llperezdamn, i like what jnixon brings to these forums but you all are on some serious nut riding if you are gonna start using "nixon agrees with me" to validate your opinions on basketball.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 8:23pm #588794
llperezdamn, i like what jnixon brings to these forums but you all are on some serious nut riding if you are gonna start using "nixon agrees with me" to validate your opinions on basketball.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 08/13/2011 - 8:23pm #588795
llperezdamn, i like what jnixon brings to these forums but you all are on some serious nut riding if you are gonna start using "nixon agrees with me" to validate your opinions on basketball.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/14/2011 - 5:43am #588883
iguapops420Participant+1. Perez
I didn’t give him a negative for the comment though because I think he’s young teenager if I’m not mistaken.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/14/2011 - 5:43am #588884
iguapops420Participant+1. Perez
I didn’t give him a negative for the comment though because I think he’s young teenager if I’m not mistaken.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 08/14/2011 - 5:43am #588465
iguapops420Participant+1. Perez
I didn’t give him a negative for the comment though because I think he’s young teenager if I’m not mistaken.
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