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  • #68415
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    negguary
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     I’ve been on this site since the process started and can honestly say I would do it all over again! That is all….

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  • #1116793
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    OhCanada-
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     Well the process isnt done. You guys are still going through it. Your two best players are 21 and 23 and have a combined 200 games played. Its gonna take some time.

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  • #1116822
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    benny15
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     Back in year 2 of the process, i was having a discussion with a philly fan on whats a fair standard to set the bar if the process a success or not. We both agreed that given everything that was put into it and how to make it different from every other rebuilding project teams in the nba has done in the past, it should yield a championship on or before 2020.

    given the well deserved scrutiny it got from critics as well as the strong faith put in by the fans that embraced it, hinkie’s "process" is the kind of championship or bust move managment makes. Theres no middle ground here and if you believe what the local philly media was selling while it was happening, thats what the city wants. 

    No more playoff bubble teams or 1st or second round exits from the playoffs. No more mid 1st picks or in the early 20s. No more nba purgatory basically. They want heaven or hell, push all your chips in the middle of the table and yell all in.

    You cant just give them an undefinite time line or else it would be like everyother rebuild we’ve seen. So getting a ring by 2020 is the measuring line. That was enough time to do their tankathon and take their top picks.  Develop enough to entice vets to sign with them and the massive amiunt of cap space theyve had all this time, and season that young talent  and combine it with those vets signing  to win it all.  And if it doesnt happen, its only fair to call it a failure

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  • #1116825
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    KIP Baller
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     I wonder how this team would have done this year if they would have kept Hinkie in charge. Who would they have draft? Would they have traded up to get Fultz or taken best available at #3? If Fultz develops into the player most thought he would become, then they have that 3rd star and are on a championship trajectory. But imagine if this team had Tatum, Jackson, Mitchell, or any of the top performing rookies. They would be in a lot better position. 

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    • #1116830
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       Sam Hinkie’s draft selections were probably the thing I found most annoying about The Process. Best player available is a good idea in theory, but continuing to stack centers one after another was a recipe for disaster. Today’s NBA is simply one that doesn’t utilize two centers playing together. If Hinkie had taken versatile wings then perhaps I’d view his drafting skills differently.

       I know a lot of fans give Bryan Colangelo grief for what he got in return for Nerlens Noel and Jahlil Okafor, but I think the 76ers were bound to have problems moving them for what they thought was fair value. Every team in the NBA knew the Sixers had to deal their centers and were going to low ball them. Perhaps if Hinkie pulled a trade early with Noel and Okafor like he did with MCW the Sixers could have gotten a good return, but other than that they were bound to get poor returns.

      Looking at the lottery players Hinkie drafted or acquired their rights on draft night, his history isn’t overly impressive. Those players are Nerlens Noel, Michael Carter Williams, Joel Embiid, Dario Saric, and  Jahlil Okafor. So in 3 drafts Hinkie took or acquired 5 players in the lottery and 2 of the 5 could potentially be out of the league within the next year or 2. Nerlens Noel couldn’t get off the bench for a bad Dallas team as the year went on. Okafor looks like he’s simply not made for today’s NBA. MCW simply isn’t very good despite winning rookie of the year.

      Hinkie made some impressive trades, but his draft record was pretty average.

       

       

       

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  • #1116835
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    SwatLakeCity
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     Like other people have said in this post you have to give it time. This year was a good step in the right direction. They got to the semifinals after 5 years of really sucking and collecting all those lottery picks. (Most of that was done by Hinkie might I add). But to get to the Semifinals all of a sudden after those five long struggling years, that’s quite an improvement. So I wouldn’t say the process is a failure not by a long shot, nor is it over. Let’s take that success we had this year and use it as a learning experience. If you think there is some failure here, no matter how small it is, let’s take a step back and learn from it, therefore improving and thus showing everyone that this Philly team you saw last year wasn’t just some fluke, it’s here to stay and improve and get even better. That would really frighten teams and get you closer to your goal. If you just quit and start over again, then you are giving in to what the rest of the league wants and subjecting yourself to another 2, 3 maybe even more years in the top part of the lottery, when if you take what I and other people have suggested here you could have a championship or two in that same time frame. Which is better? I think you know the answer.

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