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- Posted on: Thu, 03/17/2011 - 4:25am #26976
mikeyvthedonParticipantJust wanted to post these, since no one has seemed too in quite a while. We will see how different they are post tournament, as I am sure they will change, though I do not know how radically. Just a top 10 at every position, and maybe some predictions as too who will improve their tourney stock by their ranking. These are overall rankings, not just players in the NCAA tournament, but every available prospect. Also, if I do not list a player, it may be because I see them as being a 2012 draft prospect, unless of course that player is a senior, than I just feel their are better prospects at that position.
PG
1. Kyrie Irving, Duke
2. Brandon Knight, Kentucky
3. Kemba Walker, Connecticut
4. Jimmer Fredette, BYU
5. Josh Selby, Kansas
6. Reggie Jackson, Boston College
7. Norris Cole, Cleveland St.
8. Jordan Taylor, Wisconsin
9. Malik Wayns, Villanova
10. Darius Morris, Michigan
SG
1. Alec Burks, Colorado
2. Nolan Smith, Duke
3. Klay Thompson, Washington St.
4. William Buford, Ohio State
5. Charles Jenkins, Hofstra
6. Marshon Brooks, Providence
7. E’Twaun Moore, Purdue
8. Xavi Rebaseda, Spain
9. David Lighty, Ohio State
10. Ravern Johnson, Missippi State
SF
1. Harrison Barnes, North Carolina
2. Terrence Jones, Kentucky
3. Kawhi Leonard, San Diego St.
4. Jordan Hamilton, Texas
5. Tobias Harris, Tennessee
6. Tyler Honeycutt, UCLA
7. Kyle Singler, Duke
8. Nikola Mirotic, Serbia
9. Chris Singleton, Florida St.
10. Bojan Bogdanovic, Serbia
PF
1. Jared Sullinger, Ohio State
2. Perry Jones, Baylor Bears
3. Derrick Williams, Arizona
4. Jan Vesely, Czech Republic
5. Donatas Motiejunas, Lithuania
6. Tristan Thompson, Texas
7. Marcus Morris, Kansas
8. Kenneth Faried, Morehead St.
9. JaJuan Johnson, Purdue
10. Markieff Morris, Kansas
C
1. Enes Kanter, KenTurkey
2. Jonas Valanciunas, Lithuania
3. Keith Benson, Oakland
4. Jeremy Tyler, Tokyo
5. Lucas Nogueira, Brazil
6. Tyler Zeller, North Carolina
7. Jordan Williams, Maryland
8. Alex Oriakhi, Connecticut
9. Dejan Musli, Serbia
10. Aaric Murray, LaSalle
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/17/2011 - 4:38am #510624
OhCanada-ParticipantGreat job, theres not much wrong with thatn at all. I think if I were to make the list Id only change 3 or 4 things. Excellent list Mke.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/17/2011 - 4:43am #510626
sammybuckeye13ParticipantPower forward is definitely the most controversial decision. Sully, P Jones and Williams are all great prospects but all have question marks. Sullinger might be too small (someone reported him being 6-7.5 barefoot), Jones can be lackadaisical on the court and this suspension hurt, and Williams is in between positions. How you rank them may come down to whose faults you think are the least hurtful, rather than comparing their strengths because they’re so different.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/17/2011 - 4:45am #510627
mikeyvthedonParticipantI would probably change 3 or 4 things as well, lol. I mean, it constantly switches up the more we see these guys play and develop. I am sure that this list will be completely different before the start of the draft. I have my favorite prospects and all, but if I were a GM I would have a really hard time choosing between some of these players. This list also seems to show that this draft is not at all deep at the SG or C. It is a really deep PF draft however, in what is becoming by far the deepest position in the league. If some players can show an ability or willingness to play or defend the post, they could really move up the draft. On the flip side, if a taller/longer player shows ability to play on the wing, much of the same will happen. Man, is it just me or is the site wonky today? Happy St. Paddy’s, I feel like I am drunk though I am not, which is slightly scary.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/17/2011 - 4:52am #510628
Ghost01Participanti would put Kemba and Jimmer ahead of Knight. Other than that perfect list.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/17/2011 - 4:57am #510629
SwatLakeCityParticipantKemba Walker is better then Brandon Knight because of his recent tourney play in the Big East. He has beaten Brandon Knight and because of the way he played I actuallty think he is a better prospect than Knight is. Walker will start on a good team, while Knight is a fringe starter on a good team. (And this is both players in their primes)
In my opinion Jordan Hamilton is more of a 2 guard because he is not a great defender, but a great shooter and great scorer. He can play both positions at the next level but I believe he will play the 2 gaurd more because of his great shooting and scoring ability but poor defensive ability. I have him head and shoulders above Alec Burks because os his great shooting ability.
Derrick Williams to me is more of a Small Forward but he could play both positions very at well in the NBA. I actually have him as the best 3 in the NCAA above Harrison Barnes.
Perry Jones is very raw and I think it will take him awhile to round into form. And in my opinion he is bust and right now he way behind Montie but just barely ahead of Tristian Thompson.
Vesely, I also think of him more as a 3 because of his ability to shoot the three very well and his ability to defend. If I were to compare him to a player today it would be Hedo Turkoglu (the fact they are both international players is just a coincidence. Not a result of any biased thinking that I may have) I have him 4th on the 3’s list behind Terrance Jones but ahead of Kawhi Leonard.
Markieff and Marcus are neck and neck fighting for the spot just below Montie. Currently I have Marcus ahead of Markieff but that’s just because he is a better 3 pt shooter then Markeiff but both are vey good in their own respect.
Other then that I basically agree with what you have.
To sumarize my disagreements here is a quick overview of how I rank the players you listed right now. (Note: I only list the players on your list that I think will come out this year cuz I think the rest of the players are irrelevant, especially when you are thinking of NBA prospects for the 2011 draft.)
PG: Irving, Walker, Knight, Fredette, Nolan Smith, McCamey.
SG: Hamilton, Burks, Buford, Marshon Brooks, Klay Thompson, E’twaun Moore
SF: Derrick Williams, Harrison Barnes, T. Jones, Vesely, K. Leonard, Honeycutt, Singler, Chris Singleton, T. Harris, Bogdanovitch, Mirotic.
PF: Sullinger, Montiejunas, P. Jones, Marcus Morris, Markeiff Morris, T. Thompson, Faried, Jordan Williams, JaJuan Johnson
C: Kanter, Jonas, Benson, Jeremy Tyler, Alex Oriaki, Tyler Zeller
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/17/2011 - 5:37am #510637
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0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/17/2011 - 5:49am #510645
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantNCAA Point Guards
Kyrie Irving, Duke
Jimmer Fredette, BYU
Brandon Knight, Kentucky
Darius Morris, Michigan
Isaiah Thomas, Washington
Jordan Taylor, Wisconsin
Norris Cole, Cleveland State
Demetri McCamey Illinois
Tu Holloway, Xavier
Julyan Stone, UTEP
Brad Wanamaker, Pittsburgh, Senior
Kalin Lucas, Michigan StateCombo Guards
Kemba Walker, Connecticut
Dwight Hardy, St. John’s
Nolan Smith, Duke
Charles Jenkins, Hofstra
Ben Hansbrough, Notre Dame
Cam Long, George Mason
Randy Culpepper, UTEP
Corey Fisher, Villanova
Malcolm Lee, UCLA
Malcolm Delaney, Virginia Tech
Talor Battle, Penn State
Jacob Pullen, Kansas StateShooting Guards
William Buford, Ohio State
Alec Burks, Colorado
Travis Leslie, Georgia
John Jenkins, Vanderbilt
Scotty Hopson, Tennessee
Doron Lamb, Kentucky
Josh Selby, Kansas
David Lighty, Ohio State
E’twaun Moore, Purdue
Gilbert Brown, Pittsburgh
Jon Diebler, Ohio State
Marshon Brooks, Providence
Durrell Summers, Michigan StateSmall Forwards
Harrison Barnes, North Carolina
Jordan Hamilton, Texas
Jimmy Butler, Marquette
Tyler Honeycutt, UCLA
Kris Joseph Syracuse
Chandler Parsons Florida
Delroy James Rhode Island
Justin Holiday, Washington
DeAndre Liggins, Kentucky
Chris Wright, Dayton3/4s
Derrick Williams, Arizona
Perry Jones, Baylor
Terrence Jones, Kentucky
Kawhi Leonard, San Diego State
Chris Singleton, Florida State
Kevin Jones, West Virginia
Kyle Singler, Duke
Billy White, San Diego State
Gary Flowers, Southern Miss
Damian Saunders, DuquesnePower Forwards
Jared Sullinger, Ohio State
Marcus Morris, Kansas
John Henson, North Carolina
Trevor Mbakwe, Minnesota
Tristan Thompson, Texas
Kenneth Faried, Morehead State
JaJuan Johnson, Purdue
Justin Harper, Richmond
Draymond Green, Michigan State
Reeves Nelson, UCLA
Jon Leuer, Wisconsin
Frank Hassell, Old Dominion
Lavoy Allen, Temple
Arsalan Kazemi, Rice4/5s
Nikola Vucevic, USC
Trey Thompkins, Georgia
Markieff Morris, Kansas
Jordan Williams, Maryland
Rick Jackson, Syracuse
Yancy Gates, Cincinnati
Aaric Murray, La Salle
Keith Benson, Oakland
Matthew Bryan-Amaning, Washington
Vernon Macklin, Florida
Bernard James, Florida State
Dallas Lauderdale, Ohio StateCenters
Tyler Zeller, North Carolina
Mason Plumlee, Duke
Reggie Johnson, Miami
Denzel Bowles, James Madison
Josh Harrellson, Kentucky
Gary McGhee, Pittsburgh
Brian Qvale, Montana
Mike Tisdale, Illinois0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/17/2011 - 6:12am #510647
The lake show2Every prospect every year has questions marks htough…good list
0 - Posted on: Thu, 03/17/2011 - 6:14am #510648
kobyzParticipantTOP 10:
PG: Kyrie Irving, Brandon Knight, Kemba Walker, Jimmer Fredette, Nolan Smith. Josh Selby, Demetri McCamey, Cory Joseph, Damian Lillard, Darius Morris.
SG: Alec Burks, William Buford, Tyler Honeycutt, Klay Thompson, David Lighty, Marshon Brooks, Doron Lamb, John Jenkins, Scotty Hopson, E’twaun Moore.
SF: Harrison Barnes, Jordan Hamilton, Perry Jones, Terrence Jones, Kawhi Leonard, Jan Vesely, Kyle Singler, Chris Singleton, Tobias Harris, Justin Harper.
PF: Derrick Williams, Jared Sullinger, Donatas Motiejunas, Trey Thompkins, Marcus Morris, Tristan Thompson, Markeiff Morris, Kenneth Faried, JaJuan Johnson, Jon Leuer.
C: Enes Kanter, Jonas Valanciunas, Lucas Nogueira, Jordan Williams, Jeremy Tyler, Aaric Murray, Nikola Vucevic, Renardo Sidney, Rick Jackson, Tyler Zeller.
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