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Poor Greg Oden

This is TOOOOOO Funny

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Or see it on Youtube
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LOL or see it on youtube..

LOL or see it on youtube..

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video wasnt funny..

video wasnt funny..

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Hey !! Wait a Minute!! Wasn't

Hey !! Wait a Minute!!

Wasn't that McDunkin, Playing Oden in that video?

lmao!!!

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So f'ing lame

That was a waste of my life and wasted even more time for the people who filmed it.

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yeah..that video wasnt funny

yeah..that video wasnt funny at all...

i bet even durant fans would agree it was poor taste..

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Awful...

Awful...

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So you guys are really gonna

So you guys are really gonna hate on my acting debut huh?

I thought it was funny Mr.Knick

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so it was YOU!!!^^^

so it was YOU!!!^^^

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lol yeah it is im trying to

lol yeah it is

im trying to break into the "cinemax after dark" movie business like you man.

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I Guess that's what makes Mr Knick a better poster than me

I really thought Oden just got re injured or something worst...damm...At least Oden is Okay...

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I Guess that's what makes Mr Knick a better poster than me

I really thought Oden just got re injured or something worst...damm...At least Oden is Okay...

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^^Scarecrow

Yeah, I also was confused. Can't you guys just make up and say you are both equally awful posters? :)

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This is messed up but funny

This is messed up but funny

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Mikey...how am I a bad poster???

I can go line for line with any one...what you want to debate about...Not the Old Lebron being in the Illuminatti joke...

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Scarecrow....one post and you

Scarecrow....one post and you judging? Damn.

Also, why would I tell you the movie. I drew you in with a title and you 9/10 times watched.

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Lets talk Portland Basketball...

How do like their line up and what would you do to try to get them To the Championship game...aside from buying Greg Oden a pair of Lt. Dan's Knees...

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I like Portland this year.

I like Portland this year.

The issue, they always get hurt AND i hate teams who throw money around.

Signing Wes Matthews did two things

A) Give away 35 mil

B) Kill Fernandez' trade value this summer.

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Don't know Scarecrow

Maybe it could be.....how almost every few words......you seem like you are out of breath.....you are the first person......I have ever seen......who I might diagnose......as an Internet asthmatic.

Geez man, it was a joke, yes, I think you guys both contribute a lot to the site and are both fine posters in your own way. But it is like two blind people fighting, you both have major flaws. Mr. Knick makes some great posts, but far too often seems to have horrible grammar and it at times is hard for me to take that seriously. Also, far too often he will beat a dead horse without any giving any evidence whatsoever to his point. I am not saying he does this all the time, and I find the stuff he writes for his website is pretty well done, but his single sentence or couple line posts often have me shaking my head.

You, on the other hand, Mr. Crow, are very cryptic, but it gets a tad old man. I guess it is your style, but sometimes it is hard to follow or make sense of. For a writer, you could also stand to work on your grammar, it would be much easier to get your point across. I think you are an intelligent guy, but your opinion of yourself can get way out of hand. It would be great if you would use your intelligence to bring across a coherent point, and maybe, just maybe, try to be a tad less bold in your statements, as your absolutes tend to be anything but. But, word for word, line for line, you going with any poster has yet to be seen. I guess it is like Lil' Wayne, if enough people start calling him the best, than they will get other people to believe it too. The Illuminati thing is squashed man, has been since the day it happened, I do not care, I just find that you tend to debate and than lose interest in backing up your point, which is disheartening. But, what I said initially about you both being bad posters was a joke.

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The Blazers need Oden period...

They did overpay Wes Mattews but I actually think they got him as a Brandon Roy insurance policy...Rudy can net them a 1st rounder or young big...Somebody like your Knicks can get him for Gallo or Randolph ??? Although I'm sure you'd rather give up Chandler and somehow get Bayless as well...

The Blazers will be set if Oden and Joel get back to 100 % and Roy stays healthy for all 82 games and playoffs...

They are like the Rockets, if healthy both can beat the Lakers and get to the Finals...They are both built for Championship glory but have big questions about healthy(Roy,Oden,Joel,Yao,Martin) everything has to go right but they can both be fighting at end if Yao and Oden stay healthy through the playoffs..

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The Blazers need Oden period...

They did overpay Wes Mattews but I actually think they got him as a Brandon Roy insurance policy...Rudy can net them a 1st rounder or young big...Somebody like your Knicks can get him for Gallo or Randolph ??? Although I'm sure you'd rather give up Chandler and somehow get Bayless as well...

The Blazers will be set if Oden and Joel get back to 100 % and Roy stays healthy for all 82 games and playoffs...

They are like the Rockets, if healthy both can beat the Lakers and get to the Finals...They are both built for Championship glory but have big questions about healthy(Roy,Oden,Joel,Yao,Martin) everything has to go right but they can both be fighting at end if Yao and Oden stay healthy through the playoffs..

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How did Wesley Matthews kill Rudy's trade value? That just makes no sense. They may have paid a pretty penny for the guy, but it is a front loaded deal and Wes has been getting rave reviews so far. Who would you have signed realistically? Also, Rudy is the one killing Rudy's trade value, blame him for not being as good as Brandon Roy or Nicolas Batum, not for signing Wes Matthews. Them getting hurt is one thing, but I disagree with them throwing money around when it comes to Wes, because they were over the cap and he was really the only piece they could afford to go after that would fit with our team. If you hate teams that throw money around, how has being a Knicks fan not made you one of the more angry people on earth? On, second thought.....

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How did Wesley Matthews kill

How did Wesley Matthews kill Rudy's trade value? That just makes no sense

Why would I give up a 1st round pick for a player who I could say hasn't shown me he's worth a 1st round pick and Portland added another player in his position? It doesn't make sense to trade for a player that won't play on another team. I rather wait on it and see it if Portland releases him.

How am I angry? I'm calm. I just stated a opinion. You seem pretty heated to me.

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Scarecrow Portland can beat

Scarecrow

Portland can beat LA for the West if COMPLETLY healthy

Houston....No Way

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Well....

I just think you should be angry with the Knicks, not in general and definitely not at the Blazers. Yes, they signed a player who plays a similar wing position to Rudy, but to me that did little to kill his trade value. Rudy's wild inconsistency and his passive play at the end of last season definitely did more of that, along with his saying he did not want to play for another NBA team. Ultimately, they would not waste a 1st round pick on Rudy since they have no idea if Rudy will stay in the league, and this statement and attitude was taken long before Wesley Matthews entered the picture. As soon as Rudy phoned home like ET, that dude killed his trade value. Portland is just covering its bases and re-upping at SF now that Martell and Outlaw are out of town. They now have a guy that plays better defense than Rudy and is much tougher, and while Rudy has more of an offensive skill set, this guy got by his first year in the league playing D, which is impressive for a rookie on play-off team. While I was surprised at the money he was given, the fact that the deal is so front loaded leads me to believe that it was a great move and they got a great role player after the Jazz had matched their offer sheet for Millsap the year before.

Now, I get you hating teams that throw around money, but that seems to be in the Blazers past of right now, and I find that as long as someone is willing to pay their players to keep them, give them props. Sure, Paul Allen and Bob Whittsitt signed people to terrible deals and made ridiculous trades (Shawn Kemp, Darius Miles, Dale Davis), but Paul actually has a good group of guys and the Blazers have not been going to crazy. You also never said who you would give the money too instead of Matthews or answered Scarecrow's original question about what you would do if you were the Portland Trail Blazers. Obviously it would not be signing Wes Matthews, but what would you get in return for Rudy? Also, do not say you would cut him and that the Blazers should, because we clearly know that you would love for the Knicks to get him for nothing :)

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Mikey V will kill you in a debate Mr Knick...

The Blazers will not just cut a guy like Rudy...they would trade him for a guy Like Gallo...He'd start for the Knicks amd Gallo would start and be heavily feature next to Roy and Aldridge...He'd be a perfect fit on the Blazers and make up for them not getting Hedo,although they bit a bullet on that one in hindsight...The Knicks would get Rudy and The Blazers 1st rounder...Then they make the deal they've trying make all summer...

Trading Curry,Randolph,Chandler and 2011 Picks from NY and Portland( Mid to late 1st rounders )

Denvers get everything they want in a way...3 first round picks(Denver,NY,Portland) 2 young players(Chandler and Randolph) and Cap Relief ( Curry's bloated contract )

Ney York gets Melo and Rudy to score points in Bunches ...They also get to move on to stealing Chris Paul somehow...

Portland gets a Starting Sf that can spread the D and give Batum a little more time to devolope

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I still don't see how I'm

I still don't see how I'm bitter. The Knicks throw money for players for years. They failed, but you cannot say NY never tried. That's why I'm not as mad because at least were not a team like Minnesota or any other team who didn't pay for players.

Rudy said he wanted to leave, but we ALL know he wanted to leave Portland to go play for someone else. That situation is VERY similar to the Drazen Petrovic situation when he was in Portland. If the signing didn't help kill his trading value, why hasn't he been moved? Because NOONE wants to give up a 1st round pick knowing he's not even gonna play in Portland. Why would i give up anything for something that won't be used AND there better options out there?

Also.....The Knicks would not deal Gallo for Rudy. Good try however.

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Also, Mikey for when you get

Also, Mikey for when you get back on

I barely show information? Come on now. We gotta debate about that.

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y do pll always bag u mr

y do pll always bag u mr knick... ??? like mcdunkin' says...LET THAT BOY COOK!!!

keep doin ya thang!!!

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You selectively do, sometimes you show quite a bit, sometimes you just kind of beat a dead horse without much to back you up. If the Knicks were "trying", than they have been failing for YEARS man. The Blazers at least got back to being a perennial play-off team with attempts to possibly compete, which even you would admit they have the ability to do if healthy. Also, the reason someone trades a first round pick for Rudy is if they want to get a potential starting SG. That is why you would trade a 1st rounder for Rudy, and the fact that he would not play on Portland has NOTHING to do with killing his trade value. The Rudy thing is like Drazen, except Drazen I do not believe said he wanted to be bought out to go back home, which is why his trade value was not killed. Everyone knows that Brandon Roy is better than Rudy, and obviously Rudy has not shown enough to be trusted to play extended minutes with Brandon or to play the 3 without being a huge defensive liability. The reason his trade value has been killed is because he has flat out said, "I want to go home rather than play in the NBA." Not the Trail Blazers, the NBA. Why trade a first round pick for a guy who has pretty much packed his bags for Europe? Well, that is what Rudy has pretty much expressed, look at it any way that you want, you are not giving up a 1st round pick for someone saying that. You give up Brian Cardinal for Darko, sure, but not a first round pick. Plus, tell me when the Knicks even got close to be a competitive team before possibly this summer? I know they were gearing up for LeBron, and got Amare, but as of right now, the Trail Blazers, for however much money they throw around, are still much closer than the Knicks to contending. Plus, Scarecrow's deal kills for the Knicks man. Again, where will Gallinari fit in if they get Melo? Melo, Gallo and Amare would be the worst defensive front court in the league. The Gallinari thing would be to work to get Melo, Rudy would definitely be secondary. But, I agree, the trade does not work. But, and this is what I am kind of pointing to. When someone asks either one of you guys a question, you kind of seem to miss it. For instance, Mr. Knick, suggestions for what the Blazers should have done rather than signing Wesley Matthews? If you are going to flat out say they should not have signed Matthews, at least either say, "They are fine the way they were" (which would not be the case, as Rudy would still be just as pissed as he is now) or say "They should have focused on John Bryant" (an example). I just think it is cool when someone provides some input rather than just saying, "Wesley Matthews was a waste of money."

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I never said the Blazers were

I never said the Blazers were a bad team at all. In fact, they have all the pieces to beat LA when completly healthy. I still stand that: Wes Matthews was NOT worth 35 mil and to me, that was a waste of money.

Why pay 35 million for a man to play a position ( combo guard next to Roy) when you have Bayless who can do the same thing? Also, Roy is better then Rudy, no arguement but I believe you can find PT for him as well. I said this TO YOU before: The Andre Miller addition took alot of Rudy's PT and now the Wes Matthews killed his trade value IMO. I will say this: I'm back and forth on Rudy. Would I love him to be a Knick? Yes because ever since I saw him play, I felt he'd put up 20ppg in NY. Now? I don't wanna give up a 1st round pick.

One more thing: Rudy Fernandez would for a FACT play for a team who's willing to play him. That whole: I'm not playing for another team is BS. He doesn't wanna play for Portland but if NY came and got him and said "We got you for 25-30mpg a night" he's gonna say "No thank you, I wanna go home"? Sometimes, gotta use that common sense.

Also, other then the Steve Francis deal: I believe the Knicks did make moves to help the team. Alot of things killed that team but they bring in talent. It was just NEVER a good fit.

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Andre Miller

Did little to nothing to Rudy Fernandez, in my honest opinion. If you can not succeed playing with Andre Miller, than chances are there is something wrong with you. Obviously, as long as he is playing in Portland, there is something wrong with Rudy. But, while I do think Rudy would go somewhere he could play, his insistence to walk the line on the "I want to go home" thing is scaring teams away, much more so than Rudy possibly having playing time taken away from him by a starter on a play-off team last year. Plus, having a good fit is a reason to spend money. Is Wesley Matthews not a good fit? I certainly think he is, should we have spent the money on Quentin Richardson? I think the Blazers signing someone like Wes, for the midlevel, which is what his contract is after all, is not as bad as you are making it out to be. I have seen much worse mid-level signings than Wesley Matthews. Plus, still no answer as to what you would have done. You can say the Blazers should have gone out of their way to make Rudy happy, but in that case they are stuck with Sergio Rodriguez and no viable starting PG. I would say having Andre Miller as our PG right now is one of the things that will make the Blazers competitive if they are healthy. Part of being a competitive team is making sure that you have talent that can play together. A bunch of All-Star or near All-Star level players on the downside of their career do not constitute being competitive, New York Knicks being prime example. Plus, do the names Jared Jeffries and Malik Rose ring a bell? To me, those guys were a much bigger waste of money than Wesley Matthews, and neither fit in well with the team. Wes seems to be fitting in well, if he doesn't, than you have a point. It is hard to judge people on dollars and cents, maybe he should not be making the money he signed for, but if you have the chance to spend money on players, you take it. Or, you can be the Knicks and just wait in purgatory waiting to sign big name basketball players. It could work, but I think the Heat did it much better than the Knicks hope to do it. The one thing I do know is that Rudy does not fit into the Blazers roster as well as Wesley Matthews, for whatever advantages he has over him. In two years, if Rudy Fernandez does choose to stay in the NBA, he will more than likely be worth much more than Wesley Matthews just signed for. But, he is obviously not happy being a back-up 2, and regardless of your feelings of Andre Miller and everyone saying Brandon Roy should be our PG, Nate McMillan obviously did not feel that Rudy and Brandon work well together. So, yes, Rudy might not play, but his not playing due to Wesley Matthews does not kill his trade value. If anything, it should make Rudy work harder to earn playing time, maybe play harder, pout less, showcase his talent and the Blazers send him too whatever team can use his services. Rudy was pouting long before Andre Miller and Wesley Matthews, he always wanted to play more, and maybe he was promised too, but you and me and everyone we know saw Rudy at the end of last year with a major opportunity and he blew it. So, I would have to say Rudy gets the lions share of the blame, not Wesley Matthews for choosing a team that could use him in a role he was willing to play.

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Rudy averaged 24.5 minutes per game on Portland. Drazen Petrovic averaged 14 while he backed up Clyde. It is not as if we are stashing Rudy on the bench. So, yes, I am saying that if the Knicks say "We will play you 25-30 minutes per game", Rudy might still be a damn pill about it. I mean, you have to use common sense. If a guy is not happy playing 24 minutes per game, I am guessing he might want somewhere on the upside of 30 my man. My guess is that Rudy wants a 36 minute per game starting spot somewhere, or he walks his butt back to Europe. For whatever he plays in the NBA, and whatever more the NBA could offer, if Rudy gets 30 minutes per game and does pretty well on New York, what is to say at this point he does not leverage that for some serious Euros? If Josh Childress was worth 6 million (in a clearly different market, but still), you have to guess Rudy would at least be somewhere around there. Look at Rudy Fernandez speak, look at his actions. Look at freaking Sergio, his best amigo going back home. It has to be on people's minds, and we all know how ecstatic the Magic are for using a draft pick on a guy who never played for your team. Well, if you trade a first round pick for Rudy, you might be doing the same thing for 1-2 years of service, which I think is clearly not worth it.

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Jerryd Bayless

Also, Jerryd and Wesley are clearly different players. Wesley can play SF/SG, Jerryd is SG/PG, they can play together and it could work out well. I could also see Rudy being on a second unit with those guys, but the problem is that Brandon and Rudy do not work well together defensively, which is part of the reason that Matthews just makes sense. Jerryd has been kind of a conundrum, but I think Wesley Matthews addition will work quite well for Jerryd as the go to scorer on our second unit, something that I felt Rudy did not do very effectively last year when I thought it was again handed to him on a silver platter.

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There planning to use

There planning to use Matthews as a combo guard in the backcourt most likely with Brandon Roy. That's what all the people who are close to the Blazers (mostly bloggers with more inside info, not Gm's and stuff) have told me.

Wesley Matthews for 35 million is alot for a one year player who hasn't really proved anything. He didn't guard Kobe well NOR did he score well. Your pretty much paying 35 million for something Elliot Williams could have potentially gotten you. We won't know now and your 35 mil down with it. To me: Just wasn't the smart move. Honestly, I rather you go get a Kyle Lowry and move Bayless ( who still has value). That would have been a smarter move IMO.

Were talking about the Blazers, not the Knicks. This is why I argue with people. I know the mistakes the Knicks made and never said they did. You can keep bringing them up. It doesn't matter. Were talking about the Blazers (Who, if you wanna keep attacking me, we can bring up they drafted Oden over Durant, Bowie over Jordan).

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This is why you suck Mr Knick

Because your the pot calling the kettle black....he's pointing out you syaing you hate teams that throw their money around yet your a New York Homer...hello Yankees and Knicks...You can't say with a straight face the Knicks are better than The Blazers...

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And Bayless is the back up Pg...Wes is the backup Sg

Babbit will backup the Sf spot...Rudy will cry his ass back to Europe unless the Blazers deal him somewhere he can really play 30 minutes plus and then like Mikey said he might bolt anyway...

The Knicks want Melo, yet you claim they can keep Gallo,Chandler and Randolph (They all play the positions Melo and Amare play for 40 minutes per game) and Gallo and Randolph will need to paid soon ...And that might play into your quest for CP3...And their is a new CBA being brought to the table this summer...there may be a lock out after the Players reject league wide pay cuts...

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I never said I hate teams

I never said I hate teams throwing money at all. Not once.

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The reason why Scarecrow

The reason why Scarecrow isin't a great poster: You don't read the posts. You just pick and choose regardless if your wrong or right.

-Pretty sure I said Portland is better then NY

- Pretty sure I never said I hate teams throwing money around.

PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: that's why I wanna be a mod, some of you forget that on the site sometimes.

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Really now.....

"The issue, they always get hurt AND i hate teams who throw money around."-Mr. Knick

"I never said I hate teams throwing money at all. Not once."- Mr. Knick

Direct quotes, a form you like to use (though poorly, seeing you usually do not put them into quotations or attribute them to a person, thus confusing the hell out of people.)

So, before you go around saying Scarecrow does not read posts, look at what you wrote as well QHaynes. Man, I think you have a lot of potential, and I know you are passionate about basketball. But you are definitely a pot calling the kettle black when it comes to many things. Look at the role Wesley played on his team last year. Nobody shuts down Kobe, and he was a 5th option. Kyle Lowry? That is your answer for Portland, sign a guy for more money per year who's contract got matched by his original team? I know people love hypotheticals, but seriously. Than, when I am talking about what your team, who has thrown money to more mediocre players than anyone in the last little while, you bring up Jordan/Bowie and Oden/Durant? Well, all I have to say is, which team is the last one that has won a title? When was the last time the Knicks went to the play-offs. I know this is about Portland, I respect you have an opinion, but I too have an opinion and it became about both teams when Rudy Fernandez going to the Knicks became a topic. Otherwise, I realize I am arguing with a brick wall and there is no real way around that. So, best of luck man and I think we both have milked all we can out of this topic, unless you want to keep on going.

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tough crowd here at

tough crowd here at nbadraft.net i thought this was hilarious, you guys have no sense of humour.

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LMFAO at Omar Cook being a

LMFAO at Omar Cook being a legend. How's that for having a sense of humor?

Man... I thought this was going to be about Oden being out for the season or something. He'll be back before the end of Dec according to McMillian.

This was a very lame video.

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Mikey V with the flawless victory...

Mr. Knick definitly said he hates teams that throws money around...then he went on an attack of who the Blazers picks were almost 20 years ago...Really Bowie over Jordan...Oden over Durant...Both picks were not bad picks at the time...They actually filled major needs for them unlike the Knicks drafting then trading Jordan Hill when they clearly needed a Pg and Center...we can all tell the Blazers they messed up and missed out on Durant but they had a few young wings and since then have a few more to fill in that spot...sure Durant would be a nice player in Portland but a Healthy Oden might bring the Blazers a Ring...A healthy Durant and Westbrook can't win a ring out west...I still think it was a smart pick by the Blazers...One we can pick apart but that pick was better than missing out on Jennings,Holiday,Collison,Maynor and Lawson...you would not have had to throw all that money at Ray Felton and probally could have signed another Max guy without him...

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I agree with some of

I agree with some of Scarecrow's points..Everyone was expecting the Knicks to select Jennings,but they screwed up and drafted Hill then traded him a year later..

Yeah,everyone that says Durant is a better player than Lebron should look at the weak cast Lebron had in 2007 that he took all the way to the finals..And look at the cast Durant have now and ask who had the better supporting cast and who took their team farther in the playoffs?

Even though Durant have a better supporting cast then Lebron did in 2007,i haven't seen anyone pick the Thunder to win their conference...And isn't it a great player's job to carry his team?

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You can't just ignore that

You can't just ignore that the East was as soft as Charmin in 2007.

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Yeah the East was not as strong as the West

The Pistons were getting Older( namely Sheed,Ben Wallace,McDess and Rip)...They just had nobody to slow down LBJ...He just took over the game and they couldn't recover after that( Traded Billups,Let Dice and Sheed walk and currently want to trade Rip and Prince)

The Thunder have a better line up( minus the Center spot...Big Z is better than any one the Thunder have at C...and Varejeo was a better role playing Bigman then Aldrich,Collison,Krystic and Ibaka at this point)

Durant could lead this Thunder past that Pistons Team...But I doubt the Thunder could get out the East with the Celtics, Heat, Magic and Bulls in their way...The are definitly not getting out the West without a real Big man to contend with the Lakers or Spurs...

Do be honest...The Thunder could use a Greg Oden like Center to be a real conteder out West....The Blazers are a Real contender because they have him...If he were healthy and never been injured like he was...I would not even pause to take Oden before Durant all over again...

Guys like Durant are lightning rods, they sell alot of tickets and Jerseys and score alot of points but players like Oden(when healthy) can absoloutely win you an NBA championship...He's the only guy in The NBA with the defensive pressence to contain guys like Gasol,Bynum,Duncan,Yao,Howard...he can be the defensive stopper behind the deep and talented Blazers lineup...

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yeah, the East was weak, but

yeah, the East was weak, but they beat a Pistons team that had 4 allstars in Billups, Rip & The Wallace boys..

They had Eric Snow,Ira Newble,Shannon Brown,David Wesley,Damon Jones,Scott Pollard and Daniel Gibson as his supporting cast......

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Your vision with the Blazers is exactly the same as mine, it has not happened due to the injuries, but the possibility is there. it is easy to make the Jordan/Bowie to Durant/Oden comparison due to the injuries and Durant playing very well, but I do not see Durant being Michael and I honestly have a hard time seeing him being a better player than LeBron James, and still rank Kobe and Dwyane Wade definitely ahead of him at this point. The East was indeed Charmin soft in 2007, but that Pistons team was still not that bad. They were near the end of the road as far as contending for a ring (though they still made the conference championship that next year), but I thought it was incredibly impressive that LeBron basically picked them apart, his Game 5 performance was incredibly impressive. But, yes, I do believe his finals team might be one of the worst in NBA history, and the Spurs toyed with them. Still, I thought it was very impressive that he lead a team (he was the leader of that team undoubtedly) to the NBA Finals, because remember, that before the Pistons got Rasheed, the New Jersey Nets and Philadelphia 76ers did little to sway Western teams from completely destroying them.

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