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  • #45509
    r377r377
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    Over the past 3 drafts, please grade your favourite team’s selections.

    I was going to do all teams but:
    a) it would take me too long
    b) a loyal fan’s opinion would be more accurate than mine…

    Pistons:

    2010 – 7th Greg Monroe
    2011 – 8th Brandon Knight
    – 33rd Kyle Singler
    – 52nd Vernon Macklin
    2012 – 9th Andre Drummond
    – 39th Kris Middleton
    – 44th Kim English

    In the past 3 draft’s Monroe, Knight and Drummond were all projected to go higher so the pistons were happy when they became available. Those 3 could potentially be a great force in the league for years to come. While the jury is still out about English, Singler was a great second round pickup. Macklin was released from a Turkish team after only a few months and now plays in the NBA D-League

    Pistons Grade – A

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  • #737149
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    Wavy Bagels
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    2012
    – 59th Mark Denmon

    2011
    – 15th Kawhi Leonard (Acquired in trade on Draft Night)
    – 29th Cory Joseph
    – 59th Adam Hanga

    2010
    – 20th James Anderson
    – 49th Ryan Richards

    Outside of Kawhi, no one else drated by the Spurs in the past 3 years were contributors. We waived James Anderson, Cory Joseph is D-Leaguing and the rest are either overseas as future prospects or did not make the final roster. I jury is still in on their international picks Richards and Hanga, for the Spurs like to wait for them to develop before coming to the states.

    Grade: D

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    • #737210
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      jmarg25
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      I definitely would not say D. Nobody expects much of 59th and 49th picks, and James Anderson was the only real disappointment. Joseph is doing pretty well in the d-league, and Leonard was an excellent pick at #15. I would say C, and thats even a little harsh.

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  • #737150
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    khaled_a_d
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    Dallas Mavericks :
    2010 : 25th Dominique Jones
    2011:traded
    2012: 24th Jared Cunningham , 33rd Bernard James & 34th Jae Crowder
    Not a lot of players here,and we had trades in all 3 drafts ,Jones has been a bust in his first 2 years ,he is good passer and can drive ,but he is slow ,lacks athleticism ,can’t shoot or finish around the rim ,that said with the troubles we have in PG this season,he actually showed he can stick in the league for few years as back up PG ,seems not picking his 4th year as mistake right now
    I like last draft group actually ,Jae is steal tbh,very solid back up SF,he showed he can shoot early but then took step back he is ,great hustle guy,good defender ,James is decent 3rd C ,which isn’t bad for second round pick ,Jared is athletic but I will wait 1 more season to rate him but his FG% in D-league isn’t encouraging
    overall : C

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  • #737167
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    julius2790
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    2010: None
    2011: Kemba Walker, Tobias Harris, Jeremy Tyler
    2012: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Jeff Taylor

    Harris and Tyler and playing elsewhere. Kemba is a good shot creator and ball handler who is learning to play the point in a bad situation. I still think his best role would be as a sixth man on a winning team. MKG looks like the right pick all the way…he will mature into one of the better defenders in the league. Taylor hasn’t shot well but looks like he might have a future as a 3D-type player if he can hit with more consistency.

    Grade: C

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  • #737166
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    Reeko
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    2006 – #1 fucking Rudy Gay man! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WK7lIjFsGvg)
    2006 – #35 Paul Millsap
    2008 – #17 Serge Ibaka
    2009 – #9 Jrue Holiday (I’m cool with Demar)
    2010 – #13 Eric Bledsoe (cool with Davis)
    2011 – #5 Jonas Valanciunas
    2012 – #8 Terrence Ross (Drummond is a monster can’t lie)

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    • #737168
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      Lebron’s Hairline
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      You embarrass me as a Raptors fan with your hindsight. Rudy Gay was not the best player I come out the 2006 draft, it’s Lamarcus Aldrige.

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  • #737184
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    Jordo
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    2012
    #3 Bradley Beal, #32 Tomas Satoransky
    2011
    #6 Jan Vesely, #18 Chris Singleton, #34 Shelvin Mack
    2010
    #1 John Wall, #17 Kevin Seraphin, #23 Trevor Booker

    I can’t pick a 3rd favorite. It’s pretty much Wall and Beal and a bunch of question marks. Kevin Seraphin went from bench warmer to avg 13 and 7 at the end of last year but he’s still has long way to go. I’d give them. B+ off of Wall/Beal. Beal has not shot the ball consistently all year and losing a 3rd of the roster to injuries doesnt help his cause either. Won rookie of the month last week avg 13pts,4 rebs,3 ast despite shooting low percentage. He’s started January hot and had his best game of the year against Brooklyn the other day. Things are gonna look a hell of a lot better once they finally get on the court

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  • #737186
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    Reeko
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    Personally I think it’s Rondo, but he wasn’t on anyone’s radar at the time. Aldridge is good no doubt but I don’t think he’s the runaway #1 player from that draft. Funny that you base my entire re draft off of one pick in a very weak draft.

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  • #737189
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    ProudGrandpa
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    2012-
    -Mason Plumlee (26)
    -Orlando Johnson (36; traded for his rights)
    2012-
    -Paul George (10)
    -Lance Stephenson (40)
    -Magnum Rolle (51)

    C+

    I’m gonna be honest. Last year’s draft was pretty bad. Orlando Johnon seemsedto be an ok pick, and could still amount to something, but Miles Plumlee was not a first round caliber prospect. And then the front office proceeded to acquire Mahinmi, so Plumlee rarely plays and is not needed. And if they wanted big man, they could’ve drafted Ezeli, Moultrie, Bernard James, een Perry Jones or Draymond Green. However, the Paul George pick was fantastic. A franchise cornerstone at #10 is great. And Lance Stephenson, despite his issues, has turned out to be one of the better second rounders of 2010 and is starting in place of Granger. As far as the 2011 draft, trading their picks to acquire George Hill was anoter savvy move to get a starting point guard for several years who really fits the system.

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  • #737193
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    aamir543
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    Golden State Warriors

    2010
    Epke Udoh(6)

    2011
    Klay Thompson(11)
    Jeremy Tyler(39)
    Charles Jenkins(44)

    2012
    Harrison Barnes(7)
    Draymond Green(36)

    Grade- B-

    We’ve had good drafts the past two years, Harrison Barnes has had growing pains but it was the right pick and he has showed wigns of finally breaking out. Jenkins, Tyler, and Green were all great 2nd round draft choices, even if Green is the only one who’s making any impact right now. Jenkins is a very good defender, and Tyler was a good low risk high reward guy, and Thompson of course was a great pick. But I was so pissed at us picking Udoh even at the time, especially wince he was right between Cousins and Monroe, but other than that I’m pretty happy with our team’s picks, and remember we had a great pick with Curry in 2009 as well.

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    • #737204
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      jmarg25
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      Lol I was just going to do the Warriors, but you saved me some time. I agree with a B-; Thompson and Barnes are both A’s, Green, Jenkins, and Ezeli were quality second rounders, but Udoh brings their grade down a little bit, considering Greg Monroe was picked right after.

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      • #737216
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        TheArtistPaysthePrice
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        This years draft for the Warriors was a A+ though

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  • #737213
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    TheArtistPaysthePrice
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    A good draft to me is one that you make the most of what opportunities you have. Who you could have selected is important only if you could have selected them. The opportunity cost is what is important.

    2010: Nothing, 2010 was the summer of the The Decision and the start of the 4 year winter.

    Traded last pick in the first round to the Wiz in the Jamison deal. Second round pick went to Phoenix. Lazar Hayward and Dewanye Collins were selected in those spots and only Lance Stephenson and Landry Fields are the only even serviceable NBA players selected after the 30th pick in the first. Note these trades were the doing of the former GM Danny Ferry. So Chris Grant was completely left out of the first draft he got to lead as the newly selected GM.

    2011: First round : 1rst pick Kyrie Irving, 4th pick Tristan Thompson

    There was little doubt that Kyrie was going to be the top pick despite only playing 11 collegiate games at Duke. The Cav’s were the only team he worked out for. It was written though that Dan Gilbert did also like Derrick Williams and efforts were made to acquire the second overall pick also.
    With the 4th pick the Cavs seemed to leap for Tristan Thompson, at least from looking at the various mock draft boards. This pick often gets criticized because Jonas Valancuinas was available. The Cav’s had showed a lot of interest in him and seemed as the likely pick. However his agent was Leon Rose of Lebron James fame. The Decision was still a heated topic and he reportedly wouldn’t even return Cavalier calls on draft night. He also wasn’t forthcoming with what year or if ever Jonas would be bought out of his European contract. Noted that he was also the agent of recent draft bust Sagana Diop and Dajuan Wagner, former lottery travesties of the Cavaliers. Valancuinas also didn’t work out for any NBA teams. Thompson however was represented by Rich Paul, also of Lebron James fame, but as the one of the lone members of his inner circle that lobbied both publicly and privately for him to stay with the Cavaliers. He also made the call to the ownership group and front office about The Decision just prior to its airing. Thompson was athletic, hardworking, long armed and an extremely high character guy. As it turns out at this point he is only behind Kyrie, Klay Thompson, Chandler Parsons and Kemba Walker in development from the entire draft class. He in my opinion has justified the fourth pick in that only Kyrie, Klay and Jonas Valancuinas have more upside than Tristan Thompson, who has looked highly competent since Anderson Varejao’s injury. It should be noted that right after the draft the Cav’s tried to get Klay Thompson from the Warriors and thought about drafting him at 4 or trading back. Personally I thought Jonas would have been the right pick because it would have gave the Cav’s the opportunity to suck but for a good reason, they were waiting on there pick to come over, thus giving them a better lottery pick the next season. I understand though because prior to 2010 Kahn was looking like a idiot for the Rubio experiment.

    2nd round: Justin Harper traded to Orlando, and Milan Macvan who will never come over but is a tough nosed guy.

    2012: 1rst round: Dion Waiters 4th and Tyler Zeller 17th from Mav’s.

    Again the Cav’s supposedly jumped with the 4th pick in the draft but in my opinion justifiably got the 4th or 5th best player in the draft, again. I only count Davis and MKG as better players with Drummond, Lilliard, Waiters and possibly Ross in the same class. Lilliard doesn’t fit and is older than Kyrie, and I would rather have Waiters than Ross who they suprised worked out days before the draft. Drummond is to long term and cancels out Thompson. If he was 7 feet tall it would have been a no brainer for Drummond but he’s not. Reports also said the Cav’s coveted Beal who destroyed Barnes in a private workout for the team. This was not true, they wanted Charlotte’s pick to select MKG, Kyries high school teammate and self proclaimed “little brother”, who he had dinner with prior to the Cav’s victory against the Bobcat’s last week. Who also is represented by Rich Paul and workout officially and unofficially in Cleveland several times before the draft. He spent over a week in Cleveland the month of the draft doing various activities. I think the difference between Waiters, Lamb and Ross was that Waiters could use his handle to go to the rack and Ross/Lamb only uses it to create space for jump shots, albeit deadly midrange jump shots.
    Tyler Zeller was a great pick up and while often still looking like a rookie he has impressed. Easily a top 10 pick if the draft was redone. Nice mid range game equipped with a pump fake and drive. He doesn’t show off his post moves and hook shot much but its there and he uses it fluidly on occasion. All the predraft analysis was right on with him, he runs the floor well and is a underrated athlete. Has completely outplayed Meyers Leonard (11th pick) to this point and probably will over the course of there rookie deals.

    The Cav’s gave up two second rounders and the 24th pick in the first for Zeller. It was said the team didn’t want four rookies, but this was a deep class with some potential gems lingering around longer than normal. It turns out the Thunder, Celtics and Warriors got all of those gems. That 24th pick could have been PJ3, even though I think Fetus Ezeli would have been a better pick. The Cav’s prior to the draft didn’t have one true center on the roster. Andy and Tristan are much better at power forward. Draymond Green and Jae Crowder could have been the 34-35 picks in the second but we had to many wings under contracts.

    Not picking Barnes was the right thing to do. He was reportedly destroyed by Beal and even said it himself sort of. Then Byron Scott said he didn’t know if he could trust Barnes. We needed a tough personality to pair with the nice guys we got in Varajao. Irving, Thompson and Zeller. That is all the reason in the world not to pick a guy. He landed in the perfect spot and they are moving to San Fran shortly where Barnes will be even more appreciated. I wish Charlotte would have taken the Cavs picks, all of them for MKG. With Anderson’s advances in offense, especially his mid range jumper in the key, Thompson and MKG along with Alonzo Gee would have been on the hard work dream team. Offensively challenged yes, but effort like that is a thing of beauty.

    All in all the grade is a A-. 2010 in incomplete but since we have had really good drafts and have at least two pick in the next two or three first round drafts. I’m a big fan of Chris Grant and his plan so I can only be so objective. The Waiters and Thompson picks get a lot of scrutiny but I like them. They are building a high character talented roster with crazy cap space and room to grow. As the luxury tax takes hold teams are going to start selling there not top tier stars or not be able to match max or close to max offers for their current good players.

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  • #737215
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    NYBALLAS
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    Big time F

    2012- traded their pick for chase budinger. If he was a bit faster i think hed be a top SF he can shoot and dunk with the best of em. So of everything they’ve done i have the least complaints with this movedespite the fact that there was still some talented players available at 16
    2011- dertick williams at #2. I.never thought he was special too small for a bigman too slow for the 3 and nothing special as far as shot creating so med to me like one of those college players who just skill wise was mediocre but physique was more advanced than those around him. They shoulda traded down i can understand a gm feeling pressure to take him there which is why i say trade down and grt someone else. And to make things worse a gem in donatas motiejunas falls to them who i think will be wayy better than willams and they trade him to Houston for nothing pretty much. I mean shit they prob coulda gotten budinger then lol
    2010-this is when i put the gun to my head. At #4 they take wes Johnson instead of demarcus cousin’s. No one can talk me out of how amazing him and love together would be. Loves very disciplined and wether its mcchale or adleman i think they get cousins in line
    2009-(had to do thisyear cause its that aggravating) they take rubio at #5 which i love no complaints especially cause im spanish hahah. Then at #6 Johnny Flynn who even though i thought could b good saw no reason why they should be taking him. With derozen available they shoulda taken him without a doubt then maybe rubio doesnt say what the fuckanother pg?and comes to play. Thatd bean awesome tandem. Then at #18 they take lawson whos mad good but they just drafted 2 pg’s. And then Ellington at #28. No one who wows me at those spots butno clear decision or direction with those last two

    So Minnesota coulda been rockin an ill nasty team with Rubio, Derozen, ? , Love, Cousins, and budinger, pecovic, motiejunas off the bench

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  • #737222
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    druneave3
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    2010- None

    2011- Nikola Mirotic (23) Jimmy Butler (30)

    2012- Marquis Teague (29)

    A++

    Nikola Mirotic is the only two time winner of the Euroleague Rising Star award ever. An incredible shooter! 50/40/90%’s. Dirk Nowitzki – Tony Kukoc comparisons. MVP of 2011 FIBA Euro under-20. A scout expert recently said he could start for over half the teams in the league right now, he’s that good- Bulls got an absolute steal, IF he ever comes over. I think he will come over when Boozer is amnestied in ’14 despite the high price tag on the buyout (3 million). He is the main reason for the ++. To get a player of his talent at 23 is crazy.

    I’ll give them a B- if Mirotic never comes over because I love Jimmy Butler. I am probably higher on Jimmy Butler than most people but I have been a fan of his game since his early days at Marquette. Heard he killed Marshon Brooks in the Bulls workouts and just out worked him and shut him down on D. Good size and strength with above average athleticism. Gives great effort on the boards and can sky for rebounds over much larger players. Good finisher at the rim also. Has shown some good defensive abilities against LeBron, Melo, and other stars. Has a nice stroke but needs to extend his range. 50% from the field, 83% from the line, only 18% from deep. Along with extending his range I would like to see him improve his ball handling. Thibs basically redshirted him last year as he really doesn’t like to play rookies. Still only getting 17 minutes per game and I would like that to increase. He needs to gain some confidence and continue to attack. Good first step and an ability to attack but seems hesitant at times, but confidence will come in time. Love him as a role player going forward.

    Marquis Teague looked scared and lost in Summer League and early in the season. All the reporters were saying the same things about him in practice. I hated the draft pick but the Bulls front office couldn’t believe he was still available so they took him. Despite his early struggles, he has played well of late showing extreme quickness, allowing him to penetrate and get anywhere he wants to on floor, and an ability to stay in front of his offensive counterpart. Solid defender. Has a good body and strength but is still undersized and struggles with size, and to finish around the rim. Solid passer and is careful with the ball, while always looking to create for others. Not a good shooter but can knock down an occasional mid-range jumper- when the defender goes under screens because of his speed and lack of shooting ability. I am still not the biggest fan of his but I will keep him because of his defense and quickness as a backup for D Rose. He is only 19 and has been highly ranked throughout his basketball career.

    These could be 3 very valuable pieces for the Bulls paired with Rose in the future that could help them win a championship. A possible two-man game of Rose/Mirotic would be extremely tough to defend. A solid backup for Rose in Teague who can defend, and another solid defender and role player in “Jumpin” Jimmy Butler. Another reason for the A++ is because they were able to get this talent, especially Mirotic, at the end of the first round.

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  • #737236
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    Wahoo757
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    2012
    -Jared Sullinger, 21st overall
    -Fab Melo, 22nd overall
    -Kris Joseph, 51st overall
    2011
    -Jajuan Johnson, 27th overall
    -E’Twaun Moore, 55th overall
    2010
    -Avery Bradley, 19th overall
    -Luke Harangody, 52nd overall

    While the Celtics previous draft classes have shown some potential, they haven’t been enough to get the Celtics over the hump for an NBA Championship. Jajuan Johnson and E’Twaun Moore showed some potential, but played sparingly and were given to the Rockets in a sign and trade deal which yielded the C’s Courtney Lee, who has been solid, but uninspiring thus far. Like Moore and Johnson, Harangody played sparingly for the Celtics his rookie season and was traded for a 2013 2nd round pick thereafter.

    As for the players actually on the Celtics roster, there are no future stars, although solid role players are present. The most promising of which is Avery Bradley, who has already become one of the best perimeter defenders in the league. Bradley played extremely well down the stretch last season, where he looked like a viable long term option at shooting guard. Jared Sullinger will likely never be a star due to his lack of length and athleticism, but he figures to play a role in the Celtics future as well. He’s a tough rebounder, and if his face-up game continues to develop, he might be their future power forward, but at the worst he looks like a good big man to have coming off the bench. Kris Joseph has played sparingly for the Celtics, and while he looked good in the Summer and D-League, he’ll struggle to find minutes while Paul Pierce and Jeff Green are still in town. Fab Melo is a player who I felt strongly against coming into the draft and I still have my reservations about him being a success in the NBA. He is still very raw and not close to being ready to see regular minutes in the league. The Celtics must feel the same way as they recently signed Jarvis Varnado rather than calling up the former Syracuse big man. Melo offers size, but not much else, which has kept some players in the league longer than they should (Jason Collins, Desagna Diop to name a few), but I doubt Melo will make enough of an impact to justify his 1st round selection.

    Overall Grade: B- The Celtics were able to aquire three solid pieces through their draft picks: Courtney Lee (via trade), Jared Sullinger, and Avery Bradley. While they didn’t help Boston win a championship and they don’t appear to be future stars, they are solid picks for where they were chosen in the draft.

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    • #737239
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      For_Never_Ever
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      I wish the Celtics had picked players with potential to be more than just solid players. I know they were thinking about getting ready solid players to make a run for another ring, but it isn’t going to happen. My grade is c- because other then Avery Bradly none of the guys they drafted are starting lineup material.

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      • #737242
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        Wahoo757
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        I have them a little higher because they yielded three legitimate long term players (Bradley, Lee, and Sullinger) while never drafting above 19th, so given where the players were drafted I think they’re deserving of a slightly better grade.

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  • #737245
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    KingoftheOceanCourt
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    New Orleans Hornets

    2010 – Cole Aldich (11th)
    Players still available: Ed Davis, Eric Bledsoe, Avery Bradley, Greivis Vasquez

    Obviously not a great pick, but through a handful of trades, they essentially traded him for Vasquez. If you’re judging the pick on its own merit, it’s a terrible pick, but if you’re judging it from the entirety of what they’ve done with it, I’d say Vasquez, with how he’s been playing, is a decent get.

    2011 – Josh Harrellson (45th)
    Players still available: Lavoy Allen, E’Twaun Moore, Isaiah Thomas

    Not a great pick considering Allen and Thomas were still available, but late second round picks typically don’t yield much value. He didn’t play a minute for the Hornets, though, and was traded straight-up for cash considerations. The team was in ownership and financial turmoil, so I guess it’s defensible?

    2012 – Anthony Davis (1st)
    Players still available: everyone, obviously.

    – Austin Rivers (10th)
    Players still available: Jeremy Lamb, John Henson

    I’m not exactly thrilled with Rivers, but he’s been remotely decent from time to time, and he has development potential. The draft dropped off quite a bit after the single-digit selections, so I have no real issue with this pick. Obviously we need a few seasons to really judge this class.

    – Darius Miller (46th)
    Players still available: Darius Johnson-Odom

    Again, decent value with a second round pick. I don’t think there was much available, and he has been statistically the best of every pick after him. Really, he’s been the only one to get on an NBA floor.

    In all I think I’d give the Hornets a B-: Brow was an obvious selection. The Aldrich pick could’ve yielded more than it did, but the Hornets have done a decent job of taking what’s available. Rivers’ll need time to pan out or bust, but taking him where they did is understandable. Darius Miller was a decent pick as well.

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    • #737250
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      aamir543
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      The 2010 trade was masterful, they traded the 11th pick to OKC(they picked Aldrich) for the right to pick Craig Brakins and Quincy Pondexter, Brankins was a heralded pick, but they traded him in September later that year for Jason Smith and Willie Green. Smith is having more of an impact for the Hornets than Aldrich has had for the Thunder or Rockets. And flipping Pondexter for Vasquez was amazing, The way Vasquez has been playing this season, he was a great get with the use of that lotto pick.

      And also remember, it would be wrong to blame the Hornets for Aldrich, THEY DIDN’T PICK HIM. They were picking FOR the Thunder. I don’t mean to be rude or anything, but you have to remember that the Hornets didn’t pick and then trade Kobe for instance, the trade was already in place, that’s all I’m saying.

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  • #737274
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    thparadox
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    Raptors

    2010
    13 – Ed Davis
    50 – Solomon Alabi

    2011
    5 – Jonas Valanciunas

    2012
    8 – Terrence Ross
    37 – Quincy Acy
    56 – some croatian

    My analysis is phrased in the past tense to try and reduce the effect of the Hindsight Bias.

    Ed Davis was a fine choice at #13. There weren’t a lot of great options at this point, and Davis’ stock had fallen over the course of the year, so it was decent value. His ceiling appeared to be limited, but he also seemed to be fairly talented and efficient. A good decision. He is panning out quite well, particularly this year he is playing efficiently in a limited role.

    Valanciunas was rumoured to be a target for the Cavaliers at #4. When they passed, the raptors grabbed him at #5. This was a truly excellent pick. Valanciunas was showing potential in a variety of key skills… pick and roll offense, rebounding, etc. And he was a lethal FT shooter, rare for a big man, which normally translates to a good jumpshot as well. The kicker is that the Raptors were able to stash him in Europe for another year, giving him further time to develop.

    Terrence Ross was an abhorrent pick from my point of view. I thought that Drummond falling to #8 was a godsend. The guy’s stock fell from a potential #1 overall pick. Everyone acknowledged that he was talented, but he hadn’t met expectations in one year of college. In fact, his freshmen numbers were comparable to many elite big men. In particular, his perceived value suffered from an abominable FT%, and having Anthony Davis as a head-to-head comparison. I thought Drummond was a no brainer pick. I think Terrence Ross is a decent prospect, but I did not see his ceiling being high enough to pass on Drummond. I thought that Jeremy Lamb was a more talented prospect than Ross at the wing. It was also not clear that Ross could play SF, which meant that Derozan could potentially block Ross at the SG spot.

    Grade: C

    Ed Davis is kind of neutral. An obvious pick with little upside, without many options around. Valanciunas was a masterful pick. But then the Terrence Ross pick was a disaster in my opinion…. which gets most of the rating. I think you have to take risks on players who are that talented when they come along. The whole point of the draft is to try and get a potential superstar. You can add everything else through trades and free agency.

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  • #737286
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    BackCourt2000
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    2010: 2nd round, 46th pick PF Gani Lawal

    2011: 1st round, 13th pick PF Markieff Morris

    2012: 1st round, 13th pick PG Kendall Marshall

    F, D, F

    As you can see, a terrible list. Lawal was an irrelevant player for the Suns, last I heard of him he was playing in Europe. Morris, while he has shown some promise, has been mediocre and has low upside. The fact Phoenix took him before guys like Iman Shumpert, Kawahi Leonard, Nikola Vucevuc, Keneth Faried, MarShon Brooks and CHandler Parsons makes this pick even worse. And Kendall Marshall has, like Morris, low upside. Can’t shoot, not athletic, and even as a great passer lack of shooting and athleticism will relegate him to backup duty behind Dragic at best. And the Suns drafted for need rather than take better prospects like Maurice Harkless, Perry Jones, Fab Melo, etc.

    As you can see, horrible. And before these last three failures, the Suns have also been horrible with the draft. Everyone knows about all the players sold, from Deng to Rondo to Fernandez to Ibaka, the list goes on. In fact, the last draft pick that panned out for Phoenix has been Amar’e Stoudemire, selected 9th overall in 2002. Yes, you read that s— right, 10 years of failed and wasted drafts for this franchise.

    Makes you wonder, even if Phoenix does have 3 picks in this draft, could the team of Lon Babby, Lance Blanks and John Treloar be trusted with making the right choice? Certainly, that three headed monster picking both Morris and Marshall, two failures so far, along with the dumb “competitive” moves (or lack of moves in regards to Nash and so far Gortat) aimed to go for their beloved 8th seed rather than rebuild, should that team be trusted with making good picks with the three picks in the 1st round the Suns will have this year.

    I, along with many other Suns fans are worried.

    Pathetic

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  • #737331
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    I will do the bucks:

    2010
    15- Larry Sanders
    37- Hobson
    44- Jordan
    47- Tiny Gallon

    2011
    10th pick traded this pick with Salmons and Magette and received Tobias Harris(19th), Shaun Livingston and S-Jax
    44- Jon Leuer

    2012
    14- John Henson
    42- Doron Lamb

    Larry Sanders has shown some promise of late. He triple doubled with blocks and could very well lead the league in blocks by the end of the season.

    Tobias Harris was picked over Faried, Marshon Brooks and Jordan Hamilton. Most of us on here had those 3 ahead of Harris in our mocks. A few ppl were thinking the Bucks would take a SG. They could have taken Klay Thompson with that 10th pick or picked Marshon Brooks with the 19th pick. Harris got his opportunity early this season with some starts but is now struggling to get mins.

    Henson hasn’t played alot of mins this season but looks like a solid pick. Lamb got some mins early in the season but not lately. He still might have an NBA career.

    Bucks overall – C

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  • #737532
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    I will do the Hawks:

    2010 – 24 Damion Jones traded for Jordan Crawford
    53 Pape Sy

    2011 Traded Mike Bibby, Crawford, Maurice Evans the 18th pick (Chris Singleton) to the Washington Wizards for Hilton Armstrong and Kirk Hinrich.
    – 48 Keith Benson

    2012 – 23 John Jenkins
    43 Mike Scott

    This looks like an absolute nightmare and probably deserves an F grade. Although he hasn’t played much I quite like John Jenkins at 23.

    Grade E

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  • #737533
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    2010
    29 – Daniel Orton
    59 – Stanley Roberts

    2011
    traded the 23rd pick (Mirotic) and Vince Carter, Marcin Gortat, Mickael Pietrus and cash to the Phoenix Suns for Earl Clark, Jason Richardson and Hedo Turkoglu
    53 DeAndre Liggins

    2012
    15 – Moe Harkless (from trade)
    19 – Andrew Nicholson
    49 – Kyle OQuinn

    Ok, so not going into all the trade details they didn’t have a 2011 first rounder but got an extra one in 2012. Harkless and Nicholson could be handy players to have.

    Grade C

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