Pistons and Bobcats Trade
Just read on twitter by @wojyahoonba (real account) that the Pistons traded Ben Gordon and a future 1st round to the Bobcats for Corey Maggette.
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What do you guys think?
If this is legit, then could mean the Pistons could be making room in their backcourt for Jeremy Lamb, Terrence Ross, Austin Rivers?
That could be the case. Also, they could making cap room by first trading Gordon, then amnestying Charlie V next.
All I hope is that Gordon gets minutes and shots. I have always been a fan and still believe he can still give a play-off team 15-16ppg so interesting to see what he will do on a sub-par Bobcats.
If anyone thinks the Bobcats will be playoff bound/ contending in the next 2-3 years eithier you don't know basketball or are the most optomistic postive person I've ever known. Take the bad contract, get some production (not worth the price obviously) and most importantly stock up on draft picks.
Note: If they were getting A Davis my thinking would be a little different, but they have already lost out on the big prize this year. Increase your chances to get the big prize in another draft.
If so, I'd take Terrence Ross to pair up with Brandon Knight. Ross is 6'7 and Knight is 6'3. They would be a formidable backcourt for the future.
idk what to think of this as a det fan.... clearing cap is cool....... but if this means that we are trying to get another guard to pair with brandon knight-- what happened to our plan to get bigger upfront??
and if our plan is to get another guard to pair with knight i would want ross or lamb...... hell no to austin rivers
Teaming up Ben Gordon with his "mini-me" Kemba Walker haha. Not a bad trade for the 'Cats, it gives them someone to put the ball in the hoop. Maybe they'll be more comfortable drafting MKG now (though I hope not for his sake).
Don't you think Gordon and Walker are the same player type? Like they both have similar skill sets. That doesn't make them good at all. Not saying you're saying they will be. But for the first round pick they got, it's a good trade...
The Pistons still have Stuckey, it's not as though Gordon was the starter in Detroit.
Love the trade desperately need scoring And I'll take a bad contract for that pick anyday. We all know Ben is not afraid to shoot could really be a spark like he was with Chicago
Yeah. Now Bobcats really need a SF. Some additional trades or MKG coming (look at G. Henderson's pick & comment in players' draft) ? We'll see on Thursday.
i think this trade kinda cleared up what the bobcats plan on doing in the draft this year even if they dont make a trade to trade back and they stay at #2 by trading maggette i think its now down to barnes and mkg so i guess t rob is no longer in the running of course i might be wrong about that but this could be the first of many deals for the bobcats leading up to the draft
Love it for the Bobcats. They can only go up from here so getting a legit scorer is a good move.
Don't you think Gordon and Walker are the same player type? Like they both have similar skill sets.
No, I don't see how they are comparable...other than being former Huskies who won a national championship
joe d better not have given up a first round pick in this deal
he did the protections on it is
2013- Lottery protected
2014- Top 8 protected
2015- #1 overall protected
according to david aldridge
Pistons are finally clearing out their mistake from a few years ago. Corey Maggette is a tough scorer that should be helpful. Ben Gordon can certainly score and will have more opportunity to do that in Charlotte, plus they have to be happy about adding another first round pick.
It will save the Pistons about $14 million. It's up on ESPN
I would like to know does the Bobcats/Cavs deal still go down?
Hell yes. Joe must've realised that none of the bigs were worth it at 9. Bring on Terrence Ross or Jeremy Lamb!
Love this trade for my bobcats. Lose some cap space for a year in which we arent gonna be competitive anyway and add a player who fits a need and a first round pick. A win win for us baby!
Maggette is not a bad player. But i don't see how he is worth What the Pistons had to give up for him. Gordon straight up for Maggette would have been a good deal, but add in the first round pick and this trade is not looking as sweet for Detroit.
Magette is a expiring contract that can be used in a bigger move or he can give them scoring off the bench. I think Knight, Stuckney, and Monroe are their future pieces and Detroit need to fill in the pieces. Prince is still there but not the same player. We all knew Detroit was looking for a big man so this does change what they will do in the draft.
I hope they take a chance on Meyers or move up and grab Drummonds. Also their first in 2016 could be between 16 and 24 and by that time they shouldn't need it if it gets that far but I am sure weak draft will come and they will let Bobcats have that pick. Cats will not use that pick wisely and make this deal even more in Detroits favor.
I wonder who Minny is going to get a shooting guard because I thought they would do a trade like this. Do they really see Chase as a starting 2. I was think he would be a good bk up sf. Also why didn't they move Beasley or Randolph for late first round picks. I am sure someone would have big on Beasley at least. They already knew they would not make it to the playoffs with Rubio hurt. Also D Will needed more minutes.
YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Corey Maggette is GONE
And so ends the "Magette era"... if he ever asks a coach why the offense cant be run through him they can simply reply "2011-12" or "7 wins"
Oh Benny boy, ya should've never left Chicago, now you're in Charlotte. Poor Benny.
i said even before, in the other topic, that pistons should not go after a big at #9 and take the quality SG left.
i'm sorry for all the people who gave me Negative points for saying it instead of acknowledge my wisdom.
Detroit gave up too much, yes they got an expiring deal but they gave up a first round draft pick. They are a rebuilding team that needs all the picks that they can get. They still have there amnesty clause.
^ the pick from Detroit is lottery protected
So does this mean the Bobcats aren't taking Beal and take Robinson, or they're more likely to move down to 4 and take Barnes, MKG, or Robinson?
As a Detroit fan, I'm not happy with this deal. Ok so we cleared cap space and got an expiring contract but so what? It isn't like they are going to sign a big name player with that money since the Pistons are in the midst of "rebuilding." They just basically threw away a 1st rounder and got nothing in return really. At least that's my take. Feel free to agree/disagree :)
Gotta admit that the Bobcats actually made a good deal in my opinion...I'm surprised....I honestly think they should target Barnes now and that would give them another good scorer to go with Gordon...unless they are able to get a deal done with the Cavs for the 4th/24th
The first rounder is just icing on the cake for the Bobcats.
@ reaction I believe what you say to be true and I thank god that for once my Bobcats aren't the ones who got screwed in a trade. I know how you feel obviously because I'm a Bobcats fan but I'm not sorry we did it.
This just furthers my point that Dumars needs to go. He could have at least used that pick and our 9th to somehow move up a bit in the draft. If they wanted salary cap relief they could have amnestied either CV or him.
both teams basically get what they wanted.... the bobcats get a scorer and possible running mate to kemba and another pick tho its protected and the pistons clear space and get an expiring contract
maybe its the end for daye...
As a fellow pistons fan i agree about Joe D needing to be fired.
i am with you 100 percentJoe d tried to do this last year. Rember he wanted to trade rip to clevland and give them our first round pick last year. Luckly for us rip say no to the deal and we wound up drafting knight. The new owner said this team better be in the playoofs next year. So with this move it tells me joe is going to go out an overspend for a free agent. Know I hope we dont make the playoofs just so joe can be fired.
This trade just shows how bad the Ariza/Okafor deal was for Washington. So you take on two bad contracts and don't even get a pick back? Nice job Ernie Grunfeld. Don't know how he still has a job.
This was a good trade for both teams.
joe d's worst move was signing gordon and charlie v to those monster deals..... it wasnt trading billups... that move actually wasnt so bad...even if billups had stayed we wouldnt get to the finals or possbily even beat boston that yr... but with iversons expiring deal after the season ended in 2009 is what got us into the mess we had to endure for 2010 and 2011 cuz he signed those two dudes
and granted mike curry and john kuester werent the greatest of head coaches
it's a great trade for Pistons, it's improve their rebuilding process as in summer 2013 after the contracts of Richard Hamilton, Jason Maxiell and Bynum get off the book and with amnestied Charlie Villanueva they will have a very large cap space and still very good base of players on small amount of money with Brandon Knight, Rodney Stuckey, Jeremy Lamb/Terrence Ross, Tayshaun Prince, Greg Monroe, their 2013 first round pick and maybe some more finds.
with the right moves and signs Pistons on the track to become big force in the 2013/2014 season.
These types of trades are the reasons you will not see Josh Smith, Rudy Gay, Iggy, or any other true talent in there primes traded on draft night. When you have teams giving up 1st's like this to get expirings then it makes it hard to get value for real talent.
Josh Smith is a expiring and a true talent unlike Maggette or Gordon. So, what is Josh worth, if you can get a future 1st for Maggette's expiring you must be able to get atleast 3 for Smith's expiring. Trades like this run the asking price up for real talent. I hate these types of moves