Boom? or Bust?
I think he will have a long career, but as a bench player who plays limited minutes in order to provide some energy off the bench. I know it has been said before, but he looks like Mark Madsen with a little more offense.
Not really a fan of Hansbrough but I don't think he will be as bad as a lot of people think...I think a good NBA Comparion to him would be Kevin Love, they are practically twins when it comes to their basketball skills.
except Love can somewhat shot the outside shot, and Hasbrough's outside shot doesn't exist
I hated him in college and I thougt he was vastly overrated etc etc. However, I always assumed he was 6'8" in shoes and not as athletic as he turned out to be. He's not a lottery pick, but I dont think there is any reason for a team 15-25 not to pick him. 6'10" PF who plays hard, wont make a lot of mistakes bc he doesnt play outside of himself, doesnt expect to be the face of a franchise, who comes from a winning tradition. What more could you want in a pick in the late teens?
I would'nt compare him to love other then they are both white and not great athletes. Love can shoot, pass and dribble very well for a big man. When most bigs catch the ball more then 18 feet from the basket, they play hot potato and want to get rid of the ball imediately. Love is a threat with the ball and can make the smart pass. I think Love is going to have a much better career then Psycho T.
I don't disagree with what people are saying, I am surprised a bit by the big gap in draft stock of these 2 players. But I do think Kevin Love's physical attributes are more NBA-ready for his position than Tyler's.
To be honest, if either guy is taking a lot of outside jumpers your team is probably in trouble anyway.
Well Love is in Minnesota, they have a lot of troubles...
tylers problem is he is the solid pick not the sexy pick, fans love to dream what there freak athlete first round pick ( Gerald Green, kedrick brown, celtic examples) will develop into. The guys who are coming into the league as solid role player just arnt that attractive. The average fan doest think "o man we just drafted an aggressive PF who can be our 7th man for years , this is awesome!"
I agree, but those decisions, picking the solid role player over the project/hype pick, are what make great GM's different than ok or bad ones.
I couldnt agree more with what you said. I was the same way as I hated him in college, but I've warmed up to the idea of him becoming a really solid pro. The combine definitely helped him and throughtout his 4 years at UNC he developed a respectable jump shot. I think he will be picked in the 16-24 range and be a servicable backup big man for the next decade or so.
he can do exactly what Glen Davis does, jumper is a little bit better than everyone gives him credit for.
I wouldn't really compare Love to Hansbrough. Hansbrough is more athletic, but Love has a much more polished offensive game, passing ability and a basketball IQ in general. I loved what Hansbrough did for my Heels these past 4 years but he is a hustle guy for 15 min. a game off the bench IMHO.
Definitely a lot higher on him after his size was listed. I think he will be a servicable backup throughtout his career and will add the toughness and energy teams want. I think every team in the NBA could use a player like him off the bench.
It makes me feel good to read a relatively intelligent thread on Hansbrough. I'm especially pleased to see so many guys realize that getting a valuable, dependable role player somewhere in the middle to late part of the first round is actually a brilliant move. Everyone cannot be an NBA star, and once you get past the first 8 or 9 picks, it's time to start gearing down your aspirations. You don't have to pick a potential super star, find someone you can depend upon every night and a guy who will fit in with your team chemistry.
As I've said so often, no team can win an NBA championship without solid, dependable role players. I think Hansbourgh will be very similar to Leon Powe, giving his team 18-20 minutes per game, maybe 9-10 points, and 5-6 rebounds. Those are aren't star quality numbers, but they're very respectable. Every coach in the league would be happy to have someone who produces Leon Powe type numbers on their team. I know he's Doc Edward's favorite bench player.
way too many hype players get picked over solid players remarq...sad
As a GM you can't just deny potential and go with safe proven picks all the time just like you can't pass up established players for more hyped guys who have'nt proven themsleves all the time. For every case where you can name a guy drafted on potential who turned out to be a bust, you can name a proven college player who turned out to be nothing special while some other team took a risk and got a significantly better player.
Personally, I like to look at a players glaring weaknesses and determine if the holes in his game are greater then his strengths. I put more stock into what a player can't do rather then what they can do.
llperez22, I think that's a valid approach. However, my point was more basic, there's only one Blake Griffin in this draft, a sure fire star. Then there's a small handful of potential stars if you're drafting in the top ten. But once you get into the middle part of the first round, unless you already have a star studded team, it would be foolish to look for a potential star. The smart move is to find a guy you're confident will be productive, consistent, and fit in with your team chemistry.
tru you cant deny potenial and you should look at the glaring weakness which is my case in point with holiday...and yeah there are more players with higher bust factors then others and higher sure things then other players but no sure things
I am sick of hearing all these people claim Tyler lacks a jump shot. I have watched him for 4 years, every game of his UNC career, and I can tell you his jump shot is very good. He may not make every jump shot, he make not make every 3, but he is not afraid to shoot it. He has come along way at doing more then just banging down low over 4 years. He won a few games for UNC with that so called lack of jump shot, so how about we all calm down aboiut him not having a jump shot. He will be a very good player in the league. Alot of you think you know it all when it comes to the NBA and players going into the league, but you don't. The NBA has some great trainers and specialists that will make these so called busts great talents in a few years. I could see Tyler being more than a bench player in 2-3 years. I won't compare him to anyone, because that is just absurd.
"specialists, and trainers" don't do much when it comes to your jump shot when your in the NBA. I guess he just wasn't know for his jumpshot.
i think its the just wasnt knownt for his jump shot..but heels fan is right he is a pretty good shooter..and alot of teams see him as as a 6thman-starter this year