PHI-IND-DET-UTH Trade Idea
I posted this the other day when someone made a topic about Evan Turner potentially being on the block. I posted it when the topic basically died out.
Philadelphia gets: Al Jefferson, Corey Maggette, two or three first round picks
Indiana gets: Spencer Hawes, Evan Turner, Will Bynum
Detroit gets: Danny Granger
Utah gets: Thad Young, Jason Richardson
The 76ers would have $50 million coming of the books with Jefferson, Maggette, Bynum, Young, Pargo, Wilkins, and Ivey. They'd have more than enough for this up coming offseason. They could resign Bynum or Jefferson or both and still have enough left over to fill out a good team. Plus they could land at least two first round picks in this deal. I think Utah and Indiana would be the two to give up their picks to Philly, unless Detroit were to give up a conditional first rounder, say like a top 5 or top 10 protected pick this year. Then maybe the 76ers could land 3 picks from this deal, since Utah and Indiana's picks will likely be around 18-25 range.
Indiana adds depth at the C position behind Hibbert in Hawes and add more guard depth with Bynum. But the key is adding Turner for Granger. If you're running a franchise, would you want a SG/SF tandem of Turner/George or George/Granger for the long run. I think most would agree with Turner and George because of the youth.
Detroit only gives up Maggette's expiring deal and Will Bynum to add Granger. I don't think there's any hesitation on their part. Maybe they hesitate if they have to add the pick in the deal. But Knight, Granger, Monroe, Drummond, and a guard (Burke, MCW, Goodwin) with a draft pick would make for a bright future in Detroit.
Utah has a logjam at PF and C. They add a two wings in Young and Richardson, even though Richardson is hurt. I think Utah would do this deal to add a wing option and they would also get to increase the minutes of Kanter/Millsap/Favors.
The main question is would Philly be willing to give up Turner and Young. If you ask me, I think they should. Turner and Young are great pieces to have, but their not going to change your franchise into a championship contender anytime soon. If the 76ers don't make a major move, I think are going to get stuck in what I used to consider "Rockets Territory," (no offense to any Rockets fans). It's where you're too good to get a top 10 pick, but you're not good enough to make any noise in the playoffs. It seemed to always happen to the Rockets, and now it seems like it is happening in Philly.
I don't think Utah does this because Thad is really a PF and they don't want another starting caliber PF. Also, J Rich is a tad overpaid, and is out for the season, with a long term contract. I don't think they really want to take that on.
You could make the point that Utah wouldn't do this if Thad is more of a PF, but chances are if Jefferson isn't traded, they won't be resigning him. They either might as well get something for him now, or else they better make a playoff push to win it all this year with him.
Doesn't Miami own Phillys first round pick?
It's lotto protected in 2013, 2014, and 2015, and becomes 2015 and 2016 second round picks if Philly lands in the lottery all 3 years. But the pick isn't relevant to this trade idea since it isn't being moved at all.
Oops read it wrong Philly is getting picks ok
The Pacers don't need Hawes, they have Mahinmi who at times this year has been the best Pacer C with Hibbert struggling. Don't really need Evan Turner either with George and Stephenson who both have all around games, Indiana needs a pure PG (Hill can be a great 6th man) or youth at PF.
Wouldn't Utah want Turner or Will Bynum considering they have been playing Jamal Tinsley big minutes at the PG?
Indiana should get Young and Utah should get Turner.
I agree with Sewok15, the Jazz would want Turner or Bynum.
Argghh this has to be one of the worst trades ever. I don't see how it improves anyone except Detroit...