Let me rant about these so called Heat fans in Miami... Yes, your team is winning but you're still pathetic as they come... You only show up when your team has superstars that gives you highlight reels and wins night in and night out? Pathetic... Where were you when the Heat went 15-67 in 2007-2008? I see the arena more than half empty because you couldn't give a damn about your Miami Heat when they lose... Even when you acquired Mike Beasley, I still see empty seats more than the filled ones... You are the exact definition of fairweather fans... I hate those kinds of fans... You only give a damn when your team is relevant, winning and is on the verge of winning a championship... Some might argue that they hate seeing their teams struggling that's why they wouldn't waste time watching the games... That's a pretty lame excuse if you ask me. What about the Cleveland fans, Toronto fans, even Bulls fans during the Curry/Chandler era, it was always a sell-out no matter who their team is playing... or no matter the results were...
Fans in Miami are hippocrites. They claim themselves to be true Heat fans... Please... You can kiss my ass now, I could care less... I do doubt however, had LeBron been to a different team, there's no way American Airlines Arena would be sold out all season long... I saw some fans throwing some objects on the court and it made me rant about my feelings towards these pathetic people. Fairweather fans suck!
Wow dude... who took a sh!t in your cereal?
Lmao, in all seriousness though, I agree with you. I am not a Miami Heat fan, I'm a Houston Rockets fan.. but out of nowhere we have all these Heat fans. Wade is my favorite player so I bought a jersey of his three years ago. I can't even wear it without people telling me crap!
There are always going to be fans like that though.. Always
I hate those kinds of people dude... They claim to be fans yet couldn't even ride the tide with them when they were losing... They represent everything wrong with the fan nation... Not to mention a verbal rant by a Miami Heat fan against Joakim Noah... Where was the tirade when they were mediocre prior to The Lame Decision?
Fizer, I see what you are saying....but....sporting events are insanely expensive these days, especially NBA. Most people, even die hard fans, don't want to shell out a sh.it ton of cash to watch a 15-67 team. I am a die hard Bulls fan, and while I still watched most of those horrible Bulls teams on TV.....never did I want to pay a fortune to watch it live....just to see them lose.
Fizer, I dislike fair weather fans as well, but you have to admit that when the Bulls were bad, you had very little to brag about as well. I live in Toronto, and yes, they love the Raptors, but I saw a lot of empty seats when I went to games this year. You can not generalize an entire fan base like you just did. You kind of sound like a hypocrite (lol, hippocrite), when you were big upping your team and than totally hating on a fan base rather than a select group of people. Realize that the population in Chicago is such that you have a much larger base than in Miami as well, which could have something to do with it. Plus, I would love to know the numbers you are getting on Cleveland and Toronto. Their numbers are down when they are bad as well. Just because a few people on this board talk about the Raps (and I am noticing about 0 people talking about the Cavs other than their draft position), they do not represent an entire fan base. You sound bitter my friend, definitely need too realize EVERY team has fans that black out when there team sucks, even (gasp) the Bulls.
I feel the same about bandwagon fans generally, particularly when it comes to Rondo fans. I've had his jersey since 2008, before he'd even been an All-Star, and ordering it to Australia was especially expensive, but people wear it because he's dominating now and I get lumped in with them. That's the most annoying thing with bandwagon situations like Rondo and the Heat, the people who were there from the start get the same treatment as bandwagoners. As much as I dislike the Heat, it would be frustrating for the real fans to have to deal with all this scrutiny/hate.
That the player is receiving fan support, and of course having that sense of satisfaction that you bought the stock before it blew up? I used to be pissed off at fair weather fans too, I used too hate even saying that someone was better than someone else because I felt it meant you were being fair weather. Well, things change, your favorite players change teams and while you can remain die hard and only like the players wearing your colors, chances are at times those players will piss you off too.
So, instead of being incredibly negative towards fair weather fans, just disregard them. They will hop off the boat eventually and probably become fans of your team when they are doing well. I know for a fact that the Bulls lost a lot of international fan appeal after Michael Jordan retired, and that the Raptors nation is not as strong as it was when Vince Carter and Chris Bosh were taking the team to the play-offs. Also, the Blazers, who I believe have a fantastic fan base, were incredibly weak during the Jail Blazers era and when we started missing the play-offs.
My grandfathers good friend is a founder of the Trail Blazers. He was instrumental in bringing the team to Portland. Well, he has life time courtside seats. When the Blazers blew, I was still living in Portland, and he gave us seats to 4 games during Brandon Roy's rookie year. Next year, he gave us 3, one of which was a pre-season game, and one of which he actually switched with us right before a game started because he had gotten tickets 5 rows back that my friend and I sat in. The years after that, we just got the Raptors game. I am incredibly greatful for the seats he gave us, sitting courtside is incredible, but it shows you that things get a lot more exciting when you are winning. He did not want to miss the action anymore, and I do not blame him.
So, realize that when your team is winning, you may get new fans, but it should not piss you off, it should make you happy. Now that the Ducks made the NC in Football, we had a lot of new fans, and I think that is awesome. Things change, players change teams, players add things that make you respect them more and systems change that make teams more exciting, maybe even making you like the way they play basketball a lot more than before. Sacramento and Dallas had tons of fair weather fans when they started scoring buckets by the bowlful. Be happy you were ahead of the curve, dislike other teams, but realize that every fan base has fair weather people and bandwagon jumpers, not just one team in particular that just so happened to sign potentially the best player in the world and an All-Star. Believe me, he lost as many fans as he gained.
Hey man I know exactly how you feel I'm a Clippers so I've been sitting around watching them be terrible for years. I don't think I knew more than one or two Miami Heat fans before this year now I know a ton of them. I always rip on people for saying they are Heat fans, it drives me crazy.
I lived back and forth between Miami and NY most of my life and South Florida fans are the worst when it comes to supporting their teams. The only die hard fan base they had were the Miami Dolphins up in to about 2 or 3 years after Marino retired and the Miami Huricanes late 80's to early 90's in till they got scholarships taken away and couldn't get top talent anymore. They have always been bandwagon fans thats why the majority of them were Bulls/Jordan fans when The Heat weren't good yet. I was there their when they last played in the Finals and there were empty seats against Dallas. AT THE FINALS! And I'm talking a lot of good seats. Thats why Riley had them change the color of the seats from yellow because on TV the yellow color seats stuck out too much to show the emptiness. Florida Marlins won 2 championships in a 7 or 8 year span and they didn't sell out those years including playoffs and that is a baseball/football town. The excuse is and always was (even way before recession) is that there is too much to do in Miami and thats why they don't go to games to support. After experiencing all the good things Miami has to offer it still doesn't come close to the amount of things you can do in NY and we still support. Even through bad times. The Heat organization even had to send out a memo to their fans to teach them how to be a fan. So the organization even realizes it. They even retired Jordans # and he never even played for them . Anyway let me stop my rant. At the end of the day all my Heat friends are going to let me have it since it looks like they are going to win the chip and now I have to eat crow. Dallas your my last hope. Please shut them the F%#@ up!
marcusfizer21 has a point
I agree to Miami Heat fans are fairweather fans, in lay mens terms, they like ride d***. I agree with marcusfizer21 because they only start cheering when they're good and I've seen Heat games when they were doing poor, fans DID NOT show up. I find it annoying how lames on facebook buy LBJ jerseys and brag about how they've been cheering for the Heat since the early 2000's (my ass you were) and say how they're the best team.
NOW, lets compare it to other teams. For example, I've seen Cavaliers' games this year and they had a crazy crowd, same with the Raptors. Yes, attendance has been low for us, but the passion IS STILL THERE.
Passion is what separates us from Heat fans'
I agree with mikeyvthedon when he says,
"So, instead of being incredibly negative towards fair weather fans, just disregard them. They will hop off the boat eventually and probably become fans of your team when they are doing well."
I think we need to disregard them because I can say on my behalf Raptors will always be my team, regardless of bad or good slumps. We just need to show we're the better people (and have better basketball knowledge) and not be hop-offs like these Heat fans.
im a lebron fan so i cheer for the heat but i am not a bandwagoner i live in indiana and i never jump on the team thats good i cheer for whoever lebron plays for and theres other teams i cheer for though
All I got to say to you is 4-1 buddy boy. 4-1. Take that sorry azz attitude of yours into the lockout and stir it around for a few extra months. MVP, lol shootin 11 percent with Lebron guarding him. MVP.
Ive always been a Heat fan, grew up in Miami, live in Miami, and my favorite player of all time, like any true Heat fan, is Alonzo Mourning. Miami fans are bandwagon fans, but the thing you have to understand about Miami is that it hasnt been a big city very long, and theres a ton of people who just came here within the last 10-20 years, so it doesnt have the tradition like alot of cities and families that were raised die hard fans one way or the other, like say a Packers fan or a Red Sox fan.
But the other thing to keep in mind is that my Heat are the best team in basketball, and after all the hate all season, the league is seeing that its not even close and any objective observer would tell you the same. So after everything people said, they wont win, they dont fit together, there not Clutch.....
Cant hate on them anymore now can you, mister 4-1?
So what do you do? you turn it onto the fans. Classy.
If Our fans are so bad, how come you couldn't beat us here? How come nobody has beat us here in the playoffs?
While you and your whole city of "die hard loyal fans" watched in YOUR HOUSE while we played JV basketball for 45 minutes and in 180 seconds Stole your cookies right from out of your mouths.
LMAO, at you, not with you.
marcusfizer, I feel you man. I feel the same way about Bulls fans this season.
Where were all you fans 2 years ago? 5 years ago? Do you know who Eddie Robinson is?
I haven't been watching basketball nearly as long as some of you guys on here, considering I'm only 20. But I've been following the Bulls since Ron Mercer was our best player, when Artest was liquoring up pregame in the locker room, when Oakley knocked Shaq in the head which led to a fight with B-Rad Miller.
All these fans can say is DROSE MVP! JOAKIM IS SO CUTE! COACH THIBS IS AWESOME!
I understand there will always be fairweather bandwagon fans, but it really takes out the passion I once had for this team.
BUT HEY. At least we're not as bad as Heat fans. I'm glad Lebron and co. didn't come here, because it'd be 10x worse.
@MarcusFizer you are speaking the truth my man.
While I will admit I am a huge Lebron fanboy because from the moment I saw him with St Vincent St Mary's play Strawberry Mansion high school here in Philadelphia I thought to myself he's the most talented and physically gifted human being to ever exists. Watching a 6'8 235lb 17 year old who was not only the fastest player on the court but was the stongest, had the best handles, and uncanny court vision for a player his age I couldn't wait to see him grow. Well now Lebon is all grown up and what a site to behold it is.
But I find myself in a catch 22 rooting for the Heat because it is both the definition of a bought championship and almost the defintion of hardwork and dedication. The team itself has been dedicated and put in the work to win a championship so their should be no hate their.
But the fans I agree do not deserve this. If you can even call them fans. When I went to the game 4 on Easter when the Sixers beat the Heat to avoid a sweep it felt great because their were so many Heat fans in the seats who are from Philly!!! WTF is that about? Almost got into a fight with them in the hallways after the game.
Philly is no doubt one of the best sports towns in the nation but we like all other cities have the front runners. The same guys who wear Cowboy jerseyes to Eagles games, and Yankee jerseys to Phillies game, are now wearing Heat jerseys to Sixers game....FACEPALM.
@ Caneboy I think you missed the whole point of his comment. "How come you didn't beat us here...?" Um I'm sorry bud but were you actually playing the Bulls? You totally turned it around into a scenario where the fans may in fact be playing each other and not the proffesional athletes who play for your team.
Lebron is like a mercenary do you really think he has any loyalty to your city? Do you really think Lebron gives a $h1t about Miami, a city he hasn't even lived on for a year yet? No he went their to play on the beach and win championships which I can't hate on. But if Miami were to get hit with a catastrosophe and wiped off the map tomorrow I don't think Lebron would really care he'll be on the first plane out of their like Jeremy Tyler when Japan got hit with earthquakes.
i bet i got negatives cuz i live in indiana lol
Dont get me started about Loyalty in sports. Loyalty is having a lockout. Players dont owe the team they play for anything but playing hard for them and being solid in the community while they live there. I'm so sick of all the whiney crybabys who still have sour grapes about the desicion. So What if Lebron would leave Miami if the city was underwater. So would anybody thats not a fakkin Meraid... durr. Im so sick of these sensitive idiots who think Lebron is bad because of what he did to Cleveland. A grown man Decides to get out of Cold, Boring azz Cleveland and everybody talks about how selfish he is.
Meanwhile he dominates Derrick Rose, out of position, and closes almost every game of the playoffs.
Oh, but he needs Dwayne Wade... He couldnt do it alone.
And it Goes Onnnnnnnnn
Thats what I said from the beginning. Haters are gonna hate. Lebron scared MVP shatless in his own house. 11 Percent. You think you big bad Chicago fans were so deep in his Head?
Dont dismiss my argument about the Home court advantage. You can say, did YOU play the game? Which is page 1 of the "I dont have a good argument" playbook. Fans have an impact, its not the biggest deal of the world, but teams with Great crowd support have an advantage. Thats why they call if HOME COURT ADVANTAGE, because if you're fans are rowdy, its a much more difficult place to win. The Heat came back down your throats in game 5 in your own house. Meanwhile, NOBODY has beat the Heat at home. So we obviously have a very strong home court. A big part of that is your fan support. I know the team has to win it on the court, but everybody knows that Home Court advantage exists.
You Haters enjoy this last week or so, because when we beat the Mavericks in 5 games, you will realize that you at some point just have to give this team and these players the respect they deserve and just accept that they are the best and you are being a hater.
Canesboy you are an idiot and completley missed the point. Miami fans are classless (see the f-u barkley chant and throwing &$#%#&@! on the court in the past week or so) and they are beyond fair weather fans. They are just the worst fans in Florida, and that is really saying something. This Miami Heat team is my most hated team and just thing in general in my 21 years of being on the earth for sports. They have RUINED the NBA. Everyone can tell themselves that the Los Heat aren't going to win every single year, we can listen to Jalen Rose tell us that they aren't enough of a "team," but at the end of the day, they have 3 of the best 4 and sometime the best 3 players on the court at all times. &$#%#&@! that.
Whose your team? and why?
and Mr 1934 whose your team?
I rep the Heat because thats where Im from, always have. Like a real fan. So dont give me crap when we got a full board of random Lakers, Celtics, and Bulls fans because of Kobe, and Jordan, and Larry Bird. I dont know who yall go for or why, but there are a million random fans and there used to be a million Lebron fans too. Who always talked about the Cavs. and where are they now?
But who do people call the bandwagon? Not Cavs fans, no. Miami fans.
Somebody beat us in Miami in the Playoffs and then talk.
Haters hate, thats what they do and its funny because its so obvious.
I am actually &$#%#&@!smakd. LeBron James's "decision" ruined a league that I loved. Sure it was corrupt before the SuperFriends and the refs have manipulated games for years and the lottery is rigged as &$#%#&@! but I still loved it. Even when I had to watch idiots like Eddie Jordan run my f'ing team. But now....I just am in for the draft, Sixers, and the love of basketball. I hate the NBA.
Sixers, Eagles, Phillies till I die. I don't really do hockey but I pull for the Flyers. And no one is saying your not a true fan. We r just saying that you guys as a whole suck and that you are one of 26 true fans in Miami. Everyone else can name 2 maybe 3 players.
I tell you im proud of those Cavs fans. Even though their team sucks and LeBron is no longer there, they still go out and support their team. Good fans right there
Every team has those kinds of fans. I live in San Francisco and have been following the Giants for about 4-5 years. After Bonds retired, no one at cared about the Giants, and all of a sudden, last October every person is wearing a lincecum and posey jersey, and everyone claims to be a fan. Unfortunatley, that is the way it is.
You both have one too many first letters. And I agree with both of you, but I must say that Miami fans are much more likely to jump the bandwagon, aamir.
@Canesboy I actually agree with what most of what you said. I'm real big into Urban and Regional planning and minored in it while I was at Temple. I understand you're arguement that Miami has just recently became a major media hub. i was gonna put that into my post but I didn't kno or feel like looking up the numbers. Miami is going thru a phase that Phoenix recently went thru. But the best home court advantage is when you're playing in New York, Boston, Philly, Detoit, Dallas, and ect, in towns where the fans have a history of being rabid. Towns where the fans have never shown any mercy. In a city that is know for throwing beer and and hot dogs on Michael Irving and he was being carried off the field with his career ending injury.
But Miami is building that legacy right now but at the same times you proved your own point with your comment in that Miami is the Hollywood of the East. Just like all them celebrities go to Lakers games rooting for Kobe even tho none of them are L.A. natives, Miami has become a similar hub with rappers and entertainers keeping Miami in the media. Most of the fans at the games are their because it's the thing to do right now, very few are like you who grew up watching the Heat struggle, or were them when Timmy Hardaway was lighting teams up with his step back look down and nail a 3 shot.
And 19134 is my zip code. I'm a Philly Die Hard Phan all day. Sixers, Eagles, Phillies, and Flyers even tho I haven't watched much hocket since Lindross retired.
But @ the same time I love Lebron, and I use to like Wade. I use to like Wade at Marquette and his first few years but anymore he rubs me the wrong way. Bosh is just a sissys I wish they would of gotten Amare instead but nonethelss all 3 of them guys were drafted the same year and ushered in a new era, and now they are leaving their name on this era together as one which i think is pretty cool. The Heat have never been about ego's all year and have worked hard to get here. Also I love that they started off their training camp in a military instillation because I am a member of the PA Army Guard. So if they learned the soldiers creed, they should, "Never quit" and "Neve Accept Defeat."
OH and about LOYALTY...This is why Allen Iverson needs a statue in Philly. He never wanted to leave. He never wanted to chase titles. To him it was all about one superstar athlete and his love for the city that put him on. Iverson persona and the people who live in Philly's matched from day one. When he came bacc with the Nuggets and got down on his knees and kissed the Sixers logo I almost cried no homo. Who does that in another teams uniform? Then he begged to come bacc b4 his daughter got sicc and his knees went astray and the first game bacc their he is again kissing the logo. Iverson epitomizes what is lacking in sports and that is loyalty.
You gave me goosebumps with those AI return memories. I was there for both games and they are by far some of my favorite moments in my life time's Philly sports moments. Right up there with "world f****n champions."
I live in LA, and Laker fans are the same.
heat fans are by far the most superficial of all the teams