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Very good point demarcus.

Very good point demarcus. does it make sense to you to make a judgement about a comparision of a player you have never seen before?

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Because as you and i know

Because as you and i know this isnt the first time we have had this convo and you doubted the comparision. ill pull up past chats right now in case you forgot

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How can you make a bold

How can you make a bold prediction and then say he might not be close? It's either you make a bold prediction or you don't. Who honestly waffles on a bold prediction? Where is the fun in that?

You won't never see me say something like Kyrie Irving is Chris Paul 2.0 and then say "wellllllll, he might be Chris Duhon too". WTF? That's not a bold prediction. There was no point in even making that thread.

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Who me? When have I talked

Who me? When have I talked about your cousin?? I don't give a damn about him lmao...I do some stuff, but talking about someone I've NEVER IN LIFE seen play is something I don't do. Pull up every single thread you want.

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If Josh Huestis isn't a PAC10

If Josh Huestis isn't a PAC10 player of the year his freshman year then he fails due to Quincey Hodges' hype for him. I can not wait to watch Josh to develop my own opinion on him. Without bias.

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I never said anything about

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I never said anything about your comparisons, Quincey. I just said that it's pretty much pointless to argue/debate with you. I remember when you admitted to arguing with people out of boredom. I offered to send you a box of Lego blocks and a Sudoku book for your birthday, but you declined. I'd like to extend that offer one more time....

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pac 10 player of the year as

pac 10 player of the year as a freshman? im pretty sure ive never said that

what are you referring too when you say waffle on comparisons? im guessing youre talking about someone else on here

as far as bold predictions youre saying if someone makes a bold prediction about a player then he can never change it?..that makes no sense

i predicted cousins wouldn't be that good when i first watched him but i changed it the more i watched him, was that wrong? i didn't know there were rules to bold predictions

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Quincey the way you hype Josh

Quincey the way you hype Josh up is all but saying that. You dont need to say something for people to understand what you're saying.

Quincey please show us once when you made a bold prediction and stood by it.

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No a Bold prediction is

No a Bold prediction is saying something and sticking by it, and not having doubts about it. You can be wrong about it and admit it, but you can't fear being wrong.

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You can't say someone is like

You can't say someone is like Scottie Pippen and then say they might not even be close? WTF? That's something anybody on Earth could say and it be obvious. That's not bold. Who does that and then say they made a bold prediction?

That's like me saying making a "bold prediction" saying: I could make this jump shot, and then saying but I might miss it too. What's so bold about that prediction?

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it makes no sense if you make

it makes no sense if you make a bold prediction then realize you were wrong about it and change it. if you know youre not right what sense does it make to stick with youre prediction?..if i say so and so is gonna be the player of the year then realize the player isnt as good as i thought what since does it make to continue to say he's gonna be the player of the year. thats being stupid. it has nothing to do with fear of being wrong, it has everything to do with being smart enough that you misjudged

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predictions/comparisons arent

predictions/comparisons arent one sided. a player could end up being as good as one player or as bad as another. it isnt a sure thing there for i dont treat it as such. you, me , everyone on here has said a player could be this good but they could also end up not being that good. we both made a bold prediction that holiday wasnt gonna be that good correct? And we both changed what we first said correct?

its no different then when i said perry jones COULD be very very good but i dont think he will be.

many people have said cousins could be very good but they dont think he will because of his attitude

people have said deandre jordan could be a allstar but they dont think he will because of his work ethic

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Actually maybe i did go a tad

Actually maybe i did go a tad overboard with the scottie pippen/ebanks thing

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Quincey no sarcasm I gave you

Quincey no sarcasm I gave you a point for admitting to being wrong on something. That takes a man.

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Hell yeah I did too. Feels

Hell yeah I did too.

Feels good to take part in this moment. Almost feels better than bringing a child in the world SMH

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i think i was caught up in

i think i was caught up in the moment of the laker summer leauge game after ebanks was killing..lol

question...how do you put up videos, tryna put up a new highlight clip of my nephew since the one only line is 2 years old

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Copy the link I guess, that's

Copy the link I guess, that's what I do when I post a video

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That was a picture. You need

That was a picture. You need to copy and paste the video link or embed the code on the side if there is one

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how do i find that?

how do i find that?

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It's usually on the side, it

It's usually on the side, it will say "embed code" and then you copy and paste that and it should show up

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foud it for one video but not

foud it for one video but not for the highlight video on his facebook because of some privacy thing.

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That's legit. Went between

That's legit. Went between the legs lol. That's cool

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thats the weak highlight one

thats the weak highlight one though. theres a better one where he gets up higher. then one where he dunks on toney mitchell

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Quincey what is Josh's

Quincey what is Josh's wingspan??? In the video his arms look very long. He is listed at 6'8 his arms look close to 7 feet, maybe slightly bigger.

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Not to downplay his

Not to downplay his abilities, but so many players go in between their legs nowadays, dunks have lost there glamour over the years. Nice to see him dunking, in his youtube vids, he dunked once, I know he can, just wondering why you don't see it more in games...

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7'1

7'1

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That's a nice wingspan for a

That's a nice wingspan for a 6'8 player. He definitely needs to improve his range on the 3 if he wants to be a small forward. The position fits him perfectly. He has a very thin frame, but many guys do. He is better off improving the 3 ball than he is gaining weight. His frame can only gain so many pounds. I am excited to watch stanford play next year I think they'll be middle of the pack with a couple upsets here and there, but a couple disappointing losses to go along with it. 2011-12 will be the real story.

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one reason im so high on

one reason im so high on him(not just cuz of family) is because he does everything he does while still being raw. in hs all he played was center, same with aau untill this year because he was the tallest on the team. everyone that watched him this summer(college/nba players/euro players,coachs) could all see the potential that he has. Even the head guy at scouts.com said he would have easily been a top 25 player if he played in a big city like ny. ive had other family members who were good but none who has the potential that he has. everything just comes natural to him. He enever played a minute of small forward in hs or aau but after working with a trainer for a couple of weeks he was playing sf and sg at a elite enough level that Coach John thompson 3 started recruiting him more heavily then the top 25 player they were already recruiting, the coach at usc wanted to build his team around him, the Coach ford at OKstate wanted him to replace out james anderson. Everyone who watchs him sees the potential and knows how hard he works and how versitile he is. Now potential is a deadly word but not as deadly when the player is a very hard worker. Is he a one and done?..i dont think so but he has the potential to be a first round pick in year 2/3. thats something every Coach agreed on After seeing him play. Theres always something special about a player that has a bunch of scout recruiters and papers saying he's the sleeper of the summer and the sleeper of all of the PAC-10 recruits

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yeah he used to have a thin

yeah he used to have a thin frame but hes 220 now. He's at stanford working with the team trainers( all the players are there)

yeah i dont expect much out of stanford this year. middle of the pack would be a great accomplishment. its possible though with green there

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Yeah where one is from is

Yeah where one is from is huge in terms of recruiting and what not. I mean what powerhouses are from Montana. Had Josh not played AAU ball he likely would have played at either Montana or Montana State and been a stud there and maybe even an NBA player from there if he truly does have NBA potential. It is all about AAU ball now b/c scouts get to see how players do against the whole country. I bet if Josh never played HS ball and just AAU he would have been alright.

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Forgot to mention some players

Garrett Jackson (USC), and Maurice Jones (USC).

Also Bryce Jones is more than just a high riser. He's got a lot of similarities to Nick Young/DeMar DeRozan (couple of former USC 2 guards). He's putting together a more well rounded game, and attacks the basket relentlessly.

Bryce may very well have the highest upside amongst all the wings in this incoming class in the PAC 10. Was a bit under the radar coming into his senior year, because he was ruled ineligible his junior season due to CIF transfer rules and was forced to play on the JV team at Taft.

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I've never seen those two

I've never seen those two players play so I didn't write anything about them. I heard they are good though.

Josh prob would have gone to either gonzaga or Washington st if he didn't play aau because they have been recruiting him for a couple years

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Garrett Jackson

Played against him numerous times (both played in metro league in Oregon). He'll be a solid player at USC. Average size at 6,5 for a sf, but has long arms. Good post game and a VERY good jumper. Handles are well below average and his athleticism/quickness is as well.

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Interesting...USC actually over recruited for him over Dwayne Polee Jr. who pledged with USC as a freshman in High School. The highschoolsports.oregonlive.com website had an excellent article that covered the how the two have always crossed paths and now were going to go head to head in the Les Schwab Invitational.

Can you also tell me if you've Jordan Tebutt play? Heard USC is really high on his list.

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Yes

Jordan is a 5 star recruit. He is built like a line backer and is a legit 6,5 He is pretty athletic, but I'd said he has an average first step (compared to top prospects of course). Can pretty much play any position at this point, but is better suited as a sf at the college level. Pretty good defensive player and good rebounder. Honestly, I'm not sure about his jumper...If my memory serves me right it is average at best. Needs to grow a inch or two to reach his full potential. Will be an NBA player.

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keala king and tyler lamb

both played at mater dei and both are STUDS. I think they both have the potential to be lotto picks in 2012 and have nice freshman year. Both of them are freak athletes and i would expect 13 3 and 5 for lamb freshman year and 16 5 and 7 from king. Ive seen the both play a couple times theyre good

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