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PAC10 Freshmen scouting report

JOSH SMITH 6-9 UCLA
i was pretty impressed with him after watching a couple games in Vegas. strong hands and gets up off the floor pretty quick which is a feat because hes so big. Most of it seems to be baby fat which he should lose pretty easily. pretty athletic considering his size ala Robert tractor traylor. hes a pretty good shoot blocker but sometimes loafs around on defense. he will be a first round pick whenever he comes out if he even gets in a lil better shape. Also needs to learn to post harder on the block

KEALA KING 6'5 PG/SG ARIZONIA ST
i was very very very impressed with this kid. He has a throw back game kinda like Tyreke Evans but with better court vision. He is pretty athletic and is a very good ball handler who will break your ankles if you get to close. has range out to the three point line as well as a nice mid range game. doesn't look like hes playing hard when you watch him but that's just his demeanor. he also has a very good post game. dont be surprised if he puts up James harden type numbers that harden put up as a freshman. Actually his game is alot like his.

GARY FRANKLIN 6'2 PG CAL
Reminds me of Sharron collins. he is a pretty good scorer but also has good court vision. he gets after it on defense. he has deep range and isn't shy about pulling from anywhere on the court. needs to get better at finding his teammates which I'm pretty sure he can do. if not then his draft stock will be low because hes more of a scoring point guard at this point

RICHARD SOLOMON 6'9 PF/SF CAL
The key word with this kid is potential. He has ok handles but not enough where you are comfortable putting him at the sf but hes also not a banger. very long and pretty athletic. not very tough and pretty slim doesn't do anything very well but he does alot thing average. hes still a work in progress

ALLEN CRABBE 6'6 SG CAL
shooter/scorer. he knows how to put the ball int he basket and if you leave him open he will make you pay. his handles are ok but needs a lil more work. if you play on him then he loses alot of his effectiveness as a scorer.

DWIGHT POWELL 6'10 PF/C STANFORD
IMO has the most pro potential out of anyone in the PAC-10 freshman or other wise. The kid runs like a deer and has underrated bounce. very good face up game and has a non stop motor. good shoot block and can also score on the block. needs to gain more weight though so he can take the banging that goes on down low. he has advanced post skills which isn't surprising considering he went to IMG academy

ANTHONY BROWN 6'7 SF/SF/PG STANFORD
very nice player and is a year younger then the other freshmen. nice handles and shoots the ball pretty well out to the college three. not the most athletic guy but athletic enough to dunk on someone from time to time. nice enough handles to play some pg in spot minutes. high basketball IQ like most Stanford players. Hes pretty good at getting in passing lanes and getting steal with his long arms

JOSH HUESTIS 6'8 SF/PF/SG
My favorite player(family) who has Micheal Jordan ability........ok ill do this with as lil bias as possible:)
Still learning the sf/sg position but has made great strides. jumps out the gym and has a pretty good mid range game as well as a improving three point shot. at this point he's a cross between grant hill because of his ability to guard guards and forwards, and Wesley Johnson because of his athletic ability and quick bounce. loves to get at it on defense and is a very good shot blocker. needs to work on his handles and become more selfish( look more for his shot)

TYLER LAMB 6'4 SG UCLA
another scorer who can put the ball in the hoop almost at will. good shooter but can also do other things like rebound and pass. haven't watched a whole lot of his games so i cant say too much about him

BRYCE JONES 6'5 SF/SG USC
This kid has bounce. a good defender who plays very hard on defense, sometimes a lil over the top, but that's a good thing. another player who i haven't seen much of to give a in depth scouting report

AHMAD STARKS 5'6 SG
very quick stocky pg that knows how to get in the lane or shoot it from deep. his height will always be a hindrance as far as how far he will go but his game wont. he can also get up and isnt afraid to try to dunk on a big man. more of a scorer then a passer right now. in the mold of Isiah Thomas from Washington


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If Arizona State allows Keala

If Arizona State allows Keala King to be ball dominate, he can be special.

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Keala King is a stud. I think

Keala King is a stud. I think he could be a potential lotto pick in 2012

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DWIGHT POWELL 6'10 PF/C

DWIGHT POWELL 6'10 PF/C STANFORD
IMO has the most pro potential out of anyone in the PAC-10 freshman or other wise. The kid runs like a deer and has underrated bounce. very good face up game and has a non stop motor. good shoot block and can also score on the block. needs to gain more weight though so he can take the banging that goes on down low. he has advanced post skills which isn't surprising considering heS A GOOD OLD CANADIAN BOY!!!

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yeah Dwight is a baller. he

yeah Dwight is a baller. he doesn't really have a glaring weakness other then needing to gain weight. he works real hard and is faster then alot of guards. Canada has been producing ballers lately. i heard there's a young one out there who has the potential to be the top player in the nation one day

I heard that Arizona st is gonna let Keala do his thing. He's really gonna let the nation know who he is

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Quincey these are pretty good

Quincey these are pretty good reports, but there is a lack of mention about a player's weaknesses. The only weaknesses mentioned are off the court stuff like conditioning and needing to put on weight. If someone read this and knew nothing about basketball they would think the PAC10 is gonna compete with the NBA in 2 or 3 years.

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I see you with the scouting

I see you with the scouting reports...I'll be watching. Haven't seen most of these guys play (except Starks, Smith, and King), but if these reports are accurate there is big-time talent in the Pac-10.

Oh, and your nephew is like a mix of Wesley Johnson and Grant Hill? Good Lord

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i have seen 4 of those guys

i have seen 4 of those guys play personally. The rest i have just read about. I think Terence Ross of Washington needs to be mentioned among in coming freshman as well.

josh smith, dwight powell and allan crabbe are the 3 who i htink will make the most immediate impact and fight for freshman of the year.

I watched matre dei high play this year and they had 3 top 100 recruits in tyler lamb(ucla), keala king(asu) and gary franklin(cal) all on the squad. Lamb was probably the best. He attacks the rim hard and plays physical for a sg, kinda reminds me of arron afflalo. King was a very versatile and unselfish player.

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i put weakness As far as my

i put weakness

As far as my nephew is concerned coach dawkins and sonny vaccaro were in agreement about the grant hill comparisionsbut hey who are they right. if a player isnt a mcdonalds all american then they cant be comparable to nba players huh

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i havent seen enough of

i havent seen enough of terrence to really put up a scouting report. Some people will put up reports ona player they only seen highlights of but i have to see at least a game or 2 before i write about someone. From the highlights ive seen and things ive read he's a good shooter. My terps had him untill he started getting noticed more

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Quincey your weaknesses were

Quincey your weaknesses were barley present. What Iggy is saying is off from your response, for a guy who has never played a college game it is a bit pre-mature to make a comparison like that. You have preached that on this board in many of your posts, and should be open-minded even when it is with family. I am rooting for Josh, but I do believe your bias was kicking in a bit.

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Stanford really does a great

Stanford really does a great job polishing their talented players and are extremely underrated in that sense.Landry Fields, Robin Lopez and Brook lopez just off the top of my head.Powell looks like he is going to be the next Stanford Stud.

I think the guy you were talking about is Andrew Wiggins.Also Canada could have a Superstar sooner than you think with Corey Joseph, Tristan Thompson, Dwight Powell, Kyle Wiltjer, Myck Kabongo, and Khem Birch.

People compare him to Kobe Bryant, Andrew Bynum, Carmelo Anthony..They stretch it to a ridiculous extent but the fact reminds is he will be a top prospect, maybe not Lebron James esque but it sure is looking like his hype will be.

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"Some people will put up

"Some people will put up reports ona player they only seen highlights of but i have to see at least a game or 2 before i write about someone."

-Now I hope......you were not talking about me. If so, make sure you say my actual name. I mean, I would.

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for some reason you seem to

for some reason you seem to think every time i say something im talking about you specifically. ill say this ONE MORE TIME im talking about EVERYONE who does that . if you fall into that category then im talking about you too. If im just talking about you i will say you. youre not the only person on here that puts up scouting report about players, good lord

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Who else on the site puts up

Who else on the site puts up scouting reports besides Iggy??? That is my question. Better yet, who consistently puts up scouting reports besides Iggy??

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I like Dwight Powell's

I like Dwight Powell's length, and solid mid-range game, he lacks the size to bang inside, needs to put on some weight. Not quite sure where he'll end up, but definitely has potential.

Josh Huestis is decent, seems to be much more of a presence on the block, so I don't quite agree with the Grant Hill comparison, haven't seen enough of him to judge that though. He has a knack for the ball on the defensive side though, very good hands. Just based off the clips I've seen of him, he doesn't dunk much??? Haven't seen enough of him to make a judgement, but he can play...

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Who else does Stanfordhoops?

Who else does Stanfordhoops? Who else puts up scouting reports? Aran? Do you think he watches Youtube videos and bases and opinion? The people that run this site the ONLY person on this site besides me, and sometimes yourself that ever make scouting reports on anybody. And you know that.

So since you always start arguments and always are talking to me and then drop subliminal messages when NOBODY else is talking about the same things and I'm always confused, can you please actually say the names of the people you are talking to? Thanks.

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Mater Dei was stacked with

Mater Dei was stacked with Keala King and Gary Franklin and Dwight Powell plays for Grassroots Canada he is going to be great

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Question. so if a guy who

Question. so if a guy who actually recruited grant hill and and a guy who is the god father of basketball compares a kid to a nba player then should that be dismissed?... And of course no one is saying hes as good as grant hill in his prime or even his last year in college, they are talking about grant hill at the same stage. comparisions is also about what the player can potentially be. its different if you compare one kid to a nba star at the stage they are at then. makes more sense if you compare them at the same stage.

If i say bob is comparable to kobe then i mean kobe at the same stage (as seniors). Maybe i should have explained that when making comparisions

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Are you serious?..you really

Are you serious?..you really dont think other people put up scouting reports. you need to go check then because there are many scouting reports from people on here about

john wall
perry jones
eric bledsoe
demarcus cousins

just about every college player that someone likes or that had a good game or a player that has gotten alot of write ups

imguessing youre joking because every day theres a couple scouting reports about highschool or college players

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he can be comparable to Hill,

he can be comparable to Hill, but I just don't see it. He seems to do most of his work on the inside. I might be wrong, just stating what i have seen of him, he scores mostly from the block or right under the basket...Don't get mad Stanford, everybody has different opinions.

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see@dipt1982 thats

see@dipt1982 thats understandable. Most people on here will give you hell i the guy isnt a all american and you say that they are real good or have pro potential. i remember when i first mentioned josh awhile ago saying he will eventually be real good and is better then some ranked players a couple of people on here were saying no way and that he might go to some low level college because hes from montana. but if you compare a all american to a nba player then its all good

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LOL...wow. Those aren't

LOL...wow. Those aren't scouting reports and you know that haha. You said something to me about me not watching Reggie Bullock because I called him an "average defender" and you said you read or whatever that he was one of the best in the nation D (which is impossible to determine, there are thousands of HS basketball players and whoever you read that from CAN'T have watched them all). And now you don't expect me to believe that you are directing something that's of the same accusation and you want me to believe you weren't talking to me? I'm not stupid man...

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those clips are from his soph

those clips are from his soph and some jr year in his. he played center in hs. played sg and sf at camps and aau

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Quincey I respect your

Quincey I respect your passion, but at when someone says something else you get very defensive where it hinders your view on things. I mean you're older than a lot of posters here, so really you should be more mature than everyone else, but rather you get into arguments over the littlest things and treat it like a competition when really it's about expanding upon one's knowledge.

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http://www.facebook.com/#!/vi

http://www.facebook.com/#!/video/video.php?v=1187203564269&subj=100000271790716

heres a newer clip with him at aau/and playing against the washington st players

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no i get defensive if someone

no i get defensive if someone disputes somethign with out ever seeing the kid play. does it make sense to you if you say theres a kid who plays like say iverson then someone who has never seen the kid play says youre wrong? its alot different if the guy has actually seen the kid play (not just highlight clips )

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Quincey, I highly doubt you

Quincey, I highly doubt you would act differently if someone who has saw Josh play and said this and that about him you would react differently.

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the reggie bullock thing of

the reggie bullock thing of course i was talking to you duhhh youre the one who made the report that hes a average defender.

so since there are so many player in hs in the nation and its impossible to determine that hes the best at D then doesnt it make it impossible to determine that a player is the best playe rin highschool?

or the best shooter?
or the best dunker?

and go rewatch the mcdonalds all american game where the commentatory says that bullock is one of the best defenders in his class right after he makes a shot.

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Video not viewable stanford,

Video not viewable stanford, would like to see it though if you can get a different link.

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umm knicks i already did last

umm knicks i already did last summer after someone watched him play and said they didnt agree that he can play sf. i told him i respect what he said because he actually watched him play.

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how do you post a video on

how do you post a video on here?..i seen other people do it but im not sure how

like i said before i have no problem with someone not agreeing if they have actually seen him or other players play. but dont just dismiss something about a player if you have never seen him play, that makes no sense

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is the video on youtube?

is the video on youtube?

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So that commentator has seen

So that commentator has seen every player in the nation play right? He's seen everybody that even going to college play huh? How can he make that judgment. Defense is much different than shooting or passing is. It's so much of an effort thing, it's impossible to say a guy is one of the best in the nation at it unless they stack up with EVERY player in the nation to honestly see. There is no stat for D unless you foolishly go by steals and blocks.

To be honest, I've only seen Bullock play 2 times. In an AAU setting and in the Mickey D's and he played regular defense both times. SO I said he was an average defender. So until further notice, it's my opinion, vs. your writer persons.

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the commentator is going by

the commentator is going by the reports from guys who have seen the kid play more then 2 times. you of all people should know you cant make a definate statement like a guy is a average defender from just watching him play 2 games. especially in a allstar game because most of the players play very very little defense. so youre basically going off of one real game when you say hes a average defender and you think thats a good way to scout a player?..if thats fine with you then cool

And its just as impossible to say someone is the best highschool player in the nation if a person hasnt seen EVERY single player in highschool. The same thing can be said about every skill because you need to see every player in highschool before you can say they are the best. So i guess you are right about that but in being right you also showed that no one knows whos the best player in the nation is, or the best shooter, most athletic, etc

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I don't know why you guys

I don't know why you guys even bother arguing with Quincey. Getting him to even think about changing his point of view is like trying to convince a Jehovah's Witness that God doesn't exist.

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no its on a facebook page

no its on a facebook page

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lol....so orange juice you

lol....so orange juice you think it makes perfect sense to
1. say a player isnt comparable to another player if you have never seen the player play
2. give a accurate scouting report on a player you have seen play once in a real game?

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so that means if ive never

so that means if ive never seen harrison barnes play and i said that he's not that good and the comparision to lebron or kobe is absurd then that would make perfect sense?

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Lol you are jussssst about

Lol you are jussssst about right OJJ. hahah

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hyow could i not see it. it

hyow could i not see it. it makes perfect sense to dispute a player comparision if you have never seen the player play..lol

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Yawn, Quincey. Yawn.

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Yawn, Quincey. Yawn.

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Aye, that hamster looked

Aye, that hamster looked scary as hell when it yawned lol

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Just proves my point that

Just proves my point that iggy and others are bandwagon guys. He can compare harrison barnes to kobe and kyrie to chris paul but when Coach Dawkins and I compare josh to Grant Hill then its absurd. if he was a mcdonalds all american then im willing to bet he would have no problem with it. the worst part about it is he has never seen josh play in actually games. Even though the coach who compared him to grant actually recruited grant and worked with him for four years.

Neither iggy nor OJJ can even admit it makes sense which explains the comedy act. its like arguing with a person and when they know they are wrong they start getting very angry and starts cursing or name calling

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When did I say your

When did I say your comparison was absurd? lol

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You're right @ohcanada i do

You're right @ohcanada i do because there are too many bandwagon guys on here who seem to think if players arent all americans then theres no way they can be very good. dont get some of the scouting reports twisted even though i mentioned how good i think these players are i dont think all of them are sure fire nba talent. out of the bunch i say 3,4 will get drafted. others may make it without being drafted but i dont see any one and done players

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Who made that thread

Who made that thread comparing Devin Ebanks to Scottie Pippen????????

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"Oh, and your nephew is like

"Oh, and your nephew is like a mix of Wesley Johnson and Grant Hill? Good Lord"

That pretty much isnt saying that you agree. am i wrong.

Honestly what logical reason could you have for not believing a comparison that was not only made by me but others from a player you haven't seen play?..does that really make any sense? then in the same breath compare barnes and kyrie to kobe and cp3.

I just cant understand that at all.Ive heard others compare players ive never seen before to nba players and i say something liek i have to see them play first before agreeing but i dont recall ever straight up doubting them as much as you doubt josh's ability. Thats damn near the definition of hating on a player

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Kobe Bryant in high school

Kobe Bryant in high school was compared to a more developed grant hill comparisons mean nothing because they can change due what type of college coach these kids have as well as the system they play in

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comparing or did i say does

comparing or did i say does he have the potential to be liek scottie pippen while also saying i doubt every seriously that he ever becomes as good as pippen?...you might wanna go reread that whole post instead of just bits and pieces

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How can you assume I called

How can you assume I called the comparison absurd from saying Good Lord?? I said "Good Lord" in a way like "is he that good??" I ain't NEVER in life seen or even heard of your cousin other than what you say so how can you honestly say I was calling your comparison absurd? Are you sleepy?

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