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is it more or is he getting a little bit too much hype? I mean he has a supurb season and should be in the lottery but 3 is a little bit too high for me
its the weakest draft in over a decade. Someone has to be picked third.
He is the most complete wing in the draft. He isn't great at creating off the dribble, but he is an excellent spot-up shooter who is great both beyond the arc and inside it, he moves really well without the ball to create his shot, he has a nice little post game, is an excellent rebounder on both ends of the floor, and has a better understanding of help defense than any other wing prospect in the draft. His man defense may not be elite, but it isn't bad and his help defense should be excellent.
Porter may not have explosive athleticism, but he was extremely productive for a slow-paced, share-the-ball Georgetown team and he still has plenty of room to improve. I think he is clearly the top SF prospect in the draft.
All of these things are the reason Georgetown was so good this year, and why Porter was in contention for POTY. Porter is a team player, and if you've been watching the NBA playoffs you'll see that team ball is becoming more and more prominent in the NBA. Players like Prince, Belleneli, Green, Gasol, Noah, Conley, Bulter, D.Green, ect. have all played important parts in their teams success. None of those guys have been that coveted with the exception of the big men, but still help the team when they need it. That's a pretty good safety net for a draft that people say is one of the worse ever
He may never be a super star but his bust appeal is very low - i think he will be a decent player
I can see him being a very solid starter for years to come in this draft. That is sometimes want you want to complete your team, not always a guy who you think will be a star.
I wouldn't call it the weakest draft in a decade. Also in a weak draft, the difference between players from 3-10 is normally not as major, so guys will get picked more according to team needs then having a star player in pick 3 inwhich you cannot simply pass on because they are so good.
Smart player, great length. Good on both ends of the floor. Likely won't be a go-to player, but I don't see many go to players in this draft anyways. I think he'll play well off others, move without the ball well, finish plays, hit open shots, make good passes, be able to execute in set offenses, create 2nd and 3rd opportunities with his hustle and length. Defensively he's a great communicator, has the potential to defend both forward positions, plays with active hands, IQ and awareness.
I think he's as safe a pick in the top 5 as you can get in this draft. He has a very high floor and very little bust potential because he just knows how to play the game of basketball on both ends of the floor. Very low maintenance player who I think his coach can trust from day 1.
Siggy how good do you see him being?
Lu Deng's a player that I'd compare him favorably to.
Mid teens scoring on solid efficiency (Better from 3 possibly. He's shown better range at an earlier stage), ~7 rebs, 3-4 asts, with heady, hard working defense. Sounds pretty specific, but that's the type of player I see him becoming.
Like Deng he's got a great feel for the game offensively in terms of cutting, passing, spacing and angles. So even if he's not a go to player he can function very well offensively as a complementary player.
So you see him being an All Star? Would you say he is or will be be better than MKG and Kawhi Leonard?
Possibly. Yeah. I wouldn't rule out him eventually becoming an All-Star on the right team. If it happens, it won't be because of his numbers, but rather the success of his team and his reputation.
I think he's more advanced offensively than either of those guys at the same stage. He can't physically impose himself on his counterparts like those 2, but he's more skilled. MKG probably has more potential, but he's got a huge hurdle to overcome to become a respectable offensive player, and that's his jump shot, which Porter already has.
Ya I see what you mean guys like deng and iggy don't put up huge numbers but there teams success along with reputation have gotten them there. What teams would give porter the best chance to succeed like that? Probably kings or cavs. I also don't ever see him being a number 1 option but probably a 2 or 3rd option.
Of the 3 who would you take going forward?
Why get a small forward this year though when next year is LOADED with small forwards?
Might be better off getting a point guard or big man in this draft.
I disagree, you're in the lottery, you should be drafting the best player available. You don't know what's going to happen in the future, and you certainly can't plan for it with any certainty. Go talk to Magic fans about Marcus Smart for example. Nothing wrong with accumulating talent.
At the end of the day, his appeal IMO is that he can impact the game without needing the ball in his hands. He does his damage off the ball and on the defensive end.
And in a weak draft like this, it's probably better to get someone that already plays like a second banana rather than someone that will have to adjust his playing style to fit in in the NBA.
I think Porter is an outstanding fit for a team like Cleveland where Irving and Waiters are already extremely ball-dominant. They need a SF that can play defense and add some offensive punch without needing to handle the ball. Porter is the perfect fit.
I hope Cavs get him, I just cannot trust the Cavs on draft night, with two surpises picks in the last 2 years
I read somewhere that the Cavs have Porter at #2 on their big board. I assume Noel is #1. I don't see why you feel you can't trust them on draft night, I think they've done a fine job with their talent pool. I mean, they clearly avoided an ugly situation with Derrick Williams. Tristan is proving to be a solid double-double contributor and has shown he has a great willingness to improve and put in the work necessary during the off season. Dion Waiters who I assume you are mostly referring to in this post, has shown an innate ability to glide to the rim avoiding offensive fouls but also get to the ft line by drawing contact. He can create his own offense, and is gaining a reliable jump shot. People may call him a reach but the only difference between his and Brad Beal's season was 3pt%. I think Dion can break from his early reputation as a chucker and take advantage of his driving skills. Tyler Zeller has been kind of disappointing so far, but he just needs to add some bulk so he can bang in the post without getting beat up.
Take out Orlando (Harkless) Charlotte (MKG) maybe NO (Aminu) and all the rest of the top 8 lotto teams would consider drafting a SF
I know you said maybe, but Aminu's no reason to pass on Porter if they're in a position to get him. NO already declined Aminu's 4th yr rookie option.
I don't necessarily think NO is sold on Aminu as their starting small forward of the future
Reminds me of a Tayshuan Prince with more offensive power.He plays a good team game and just wants to win,also a smart player that doesn't make stupid mistakes. I would want him on my team