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  • #28489
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    knicksfan7
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    WOOOOOOOOOOOO now that’s Winning at its finest.

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  • #527441
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    akhan786
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    Hopefully this will set off a long chain of events that will ultimately eradicate the Al-queda and Taliban movements.

    Then maybe people of my ethnicity will cease to be harrassed at airports because the government thinks we’re terrorists.

    YEAH AMERICA

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  • #527442
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    I May Be Wrong
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    This is a big deal, only fitting it has its own theme song

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  • #527444
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    ilike.panochas
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    Good riddance. The world is a better place.

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  • #527445
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    DanEboy
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    I would’ve loved to have been the soldier that got to shoot that mother fu@ker’s skull out. Or the CIA opp…or whoever.

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  • #527447
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    Michael.S.
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    Bout time. Theres a place waiting for him down under.

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  • #527450
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    Im Your Father
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     ‘Merica!

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  • #527455
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    torontoraptors10
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    To all the Americans:

    Don’t be happy about this, this is DEFINITELY going to have severe consequences for America and the world as a whole. Al-Qaeda will be planning something since their leader is dead, this is could possibly be the begining of the end. The American government has played a big role in this too. I just hope this brings peace to the families that have lost their loved ones in 9-11 and justice is served.

    God Bless America…. God Bless the world.

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  • #527457
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    gone
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    Osama is dead yay!!! now he can go back to his normal life as Tim Osman

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  • #527460
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    canesboy6
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    I dont ever know how to feel about any of this. I feel so sorry for innocent Muslims in the United States who have to go through the judgements and horrible steriotypes that they do. I, for one, don’t believe everything that the government has told us about 9/11. For instance, when i went to Europe and met soo many people from so many places, they all told me the consensus around the world is that America blew up their own trade towers, and the war is a scam to make money. So according to the majority of the world, we are the evil ones…

    Its so confusing. Im a peaceful person, and I think most people are, and I just get very discouraged and confused trying to figure out what it all means and why it happens. You want to believe that your government tells you the truth, and that people arent dying in vain, but sometimes its hard to.

    All in All, I hope this is a step towards peace in the world.

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  • #527461
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    torontoraptors10
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    I’ve watched documentaries where some of the supposed "terrorists" are still alive and how the towers fell demolition style. This could have been an excuse to get more oil and like they say, greed and power makes the world spin.

    Everyone in the world has negative feelings about America. I feel bad for Muslims because they aren’t bad people. Majority of them want democracy in their nations but are supressed by the VERY FEW people that ruin the image of Islam.

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  • #527462
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    SwatLakeCity
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     @Torontoraptors10: In other words. The End Is Near. 

    Keep praying for our soldiers. This isn’t over but only the beginning.

    This might even progress to World War 3:(

    Hate to say it, but we all know Al-queda wants revenge.

    Again, Keep our soldiers in our prayers. Long Live America!!!

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  • #527463
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    moochiee
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    The guy could ball

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  • #527465
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    13kavak

     that song really mean because they DO NOT  do it , that song is as far from being about might makes right  as lebron is to a wasted draft pick.  I stand up for the rights of EVERY  man  pay attention to that part.

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  • #527466
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    OhCanada-
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    People can be so stupid,Im sorry. Americans created Osama, and Al Queda. Americans created the 911 mass media events, then created the "War on Terrorism" where innocent men would die for oil. They jack up the oil prices that are possessed by soldies who believe they are fighting terrorists. Now they kill Osama Bin Laden and you can expect a backlash by Al Queda, they will not just sit and allow Americans to pick them off one by one.

    I have complete respect for any soldier, also for any normal American citizen. Just try to inform yourself on what this really means before you cheer, yay hes dead. Dont believe everything you read in the papers and see on your TV. Use your head…

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  • #527467
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    torontoraptors10
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    We as a world need to unite!

    I cannot express this because humans are selling each other out there. If we do not unite as a world, us humans, will create our own doom. We need to treat others the way we want to be treated, stop all this racist nonsense and come together as one. My family is from Pakistan and being Christians we know the hardships of living in a Islamic state, just know we need to forgive others for what they did and come together as one.

    It is ironic how it is happening before 2012. I do believe something MAJOR will happen (like aliens possibly, or a huge war) but the world won’t end. The human race will get a wide awakening then. Al-Qaeda is not to toyed with, middle eastern countries are becoming more powerful and have been selling oil for nuclear weapons.

    Like I said, we need to come together as one and it all starts will us as individuals. Then only, humans will be prosper.

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  • #527471
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    llperez

    Great news. But we still got lots of work and terrorism ain’t going nowhere. But dedenitely A positive step made today.

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  • #527472
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    wenich
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    Canesboy well stated, all we know is what our media tells us.  Most people in this Country just take what they hear and automatically believe it all.  Obviously we don’t know what the real truth is, but over the past 10 years I have decided that I am not totally sold on what they are trying to sell on this version of hisSTORY.  There are a lot of people with a lot of agendas.

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  • #527473
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    SwatLakeCity
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     torontoraptors10, and OhCanada:

    Couldn’t agree more. But in order for all of us to come together as one, it will take a divine effort.

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  • #527474
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    gone
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    Correction! Ronald Reagan created al queda and brought crack to the inner city…iran-contra affair…..What a great american hero he was!

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  • #527475
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    OhCanada-
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    Anytime I see or hear, God Bless America, or Long Live America, something like that…hate to say it, but it just gives me flashes of the Nazi deception… Bouncing around from country to country imposing their will just like the Nazi’s only more strategicly precise, with a positive mass media edge, and cheery glow to it. The greatest pride any american can have short of birthing a child is to kill and die for his faceless countries master.

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  • #527476
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    DanEboy
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    He was an evil piece of shit…and now he is dead. Al Queda is obviously still alive but that needed to happen.

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  • #527477
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    llperez

    Stop being another USA hater oh Canada comparing what America is doing with Nazis?

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  • #527480
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    DanEboy
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    Wow, this thread is a fail. Negatives for an evil mastermind getting his just due. Later haters.

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  • #527481
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    13kavak

     responded to this I couldnt agree more with oh canada and strongly feel america would be significantly better for minding its own business. aliens would see us  then theyd see a dolphin and theyd know who they want to talk too, smart isnt killing your own kind for no reason. the only place bushes wmds were is in haliburtons stocks, and Iraq wasnt a war it was/is an occupation without cause. we finally kill bin laden ten years after the fact, after he has been out of the news for quite awhile  and this is a victory? what he do get cancer and ask us to kill him?

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  • #527483
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    apb540
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    I hope this helps the victim’s families out, but other than that I’m not a dumb American.  For example, who on here has ever heard of the term "false flag?"  Not a vocab term I have ever seen in a textbook… 

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  • #527484
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    TRC1991
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    nice comment OhCanada….NOT

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  • #527486
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    kacey
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    Breaking news…

    John Bryant is on his way back from Pakistan.

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  • #527487
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    apb540
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    What we are doing is actually nothing like what the Nazi’s did and how they did it.  Shitty schooling up there ehh? 

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  • #527488
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    13kavak

     America has a long history of political indoctrination- hence why most kids in the 70s didnt have qualms about nam. if the american goverment asked people to jump off bridges their would be a long line.

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  • #527490
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    apb540
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     Point was valid but the Nazi comparison was not.

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  • #527492
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    13kavak

     and the difference between the two the more I think  about it is the difference between the levels of fervor and passion, if america had a politician that all of america could rally behind and support  that difference might decrease significantly.

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  • #527494
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    OhCanada-
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    American forces have killed so many more people then the Nazi’s. They just arent as blunt, and cruel about it. Death is death no matter how it is conducted.

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  • #527495
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    cookielogic
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    actually the blind patriotism of modern america is very much like the blind patriotism of nazi fascist germany.  overwhelming public support against allotted scapegoats and false flag operations are also similarities.  the biggest similarity is the use of government supplied propaganda.  i find it amusing anyone believed that bin laden was even still alive.  there was some solid evidence that he had died nearly a decade ago from lung complications and other evidence he had died from complications of diabetes even before 9/11.  who knows right?  maybe bin laden was just killed today/yesterday, maybe he died a decade ago.  at any rate the news serves certain folks a great purpose.  one, if bin laden was "alive" the last ten years then the nearly trillion dollar military defense industry has a ton of public support to continue war for middle east resource control.  two, next year is an election year and obama needed a little something to aide in his quest for reelection.  anyhow, whatever you want to believe is fine with me.  neither story really matters all that much.  there will continue to be "terrorism", whether it be the classic american feared kind or the hidden from the headlines american supplied kind.  just watch your backs and be vigilant and never stop fighting the oppressors whoever they may be. 

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  • #527496
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    13kavak

     america hasnt been trying to exterminate one group of people or take over the world. we have just been trying to make bush and cheney rich beyond belief.

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  • #527497
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    Im Your Father
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     Seriously Canadiens, fuck off.

    Bin Laden was directly responsible for the death of 2000 Americans. I am not particularly conservative, nor am I quick to support violence, but if you think that "The War on Terrorism" is a conspiracy theory than you are an idiot. Point blank. I personally do not think that Military Operations in Iraq were a good idea, but there is no way that you can honestly tell me that what we are doing in Afghanistan has anything to do with oil. WE WERE ATTACKED and we took steps to attempt to get rid of the organization that attacked us. 

    But you know what, forget all that, you have the right to believe your idiotic conspiracy theories. But Let us have our day. Yes, the Death of Bin Laden doesn’t mean the threat is over, but he DID kill thousands of our citizens, and we ought to be able to have our moment to celebrate his demise. 

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  • #527498
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    13kavak

     and I like your message, well thought out.

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  • #527499
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    cookielogic
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    america wrote the handbook on trying to exterminate one group of people…native americans.  never forget that.  kickapoo pride.

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  • #527500
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    OhCanada-
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    But they are trying to take over the world they just arent telling anyone that. Anyways you guys grow old and see what happens, Im betting it wont be pretty.

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  • #527501
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    butidonthavemoney

    Hmmm…

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  • #527502
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    13kavak

     day bin laden died if he didnt die ten years ago or last week and we just got retribution ten years after the fact even though he hasnt done anything or been in the headlines for quite a long time so feel free to mess with america we might get revenge in ten years?   wow thats a seriously long title   but enjoy your day.

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  • #527503
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    Im Your Father
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     Oh Canada, 

    You literally have no idea what you’re talking about. I don’t even think it’s worth arguing with that kind of ignorance. Since when does loving your country and being proud of it’s accomplishments make you a Nazi. If you really think the greatest nation in the world compares to Nazi Germany, than I have nothing to say to you. 

    

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  • #527504
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    OhCanada-
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    I read that it is possible 100-Million Native Americans (including the Mexican land) were killed in that colinization. Couldnt have been less then 10-Million.

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  • #527505
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    cookielogic
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    cool, when someone has an opinion different than yours you just cut off communcating with them.  that might work for you.

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  • #527507
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    llperez

    USA doesn’t just go around killing peoplemfor the sake of genocide and taking over the world. The middle east is in largempart an ass backwards area that doesn’t follow some basic human rights especially towards women. USA is far from perfect but still the best country out there. And you are crazy if you think there is some blind USA support from the majority of Americans. Have you ever been to America? Do you realize how many outspoken people are out there against USA policies? You think Roger Moore would exist in a lot of third world countries? That’s what great about the USA, half the people probably hate our current president and they have every freedom to express that and do so routinely. But most Americans are proud to be American and rightfully so.

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  • #527508
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    OhCanada-
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    Why is America the greatest nation in the world? Because they told you it is? Nazi’s also bestowed that belief on their people while slaughtering other nations. See the difference is the USA picks on the weak. They target poor, defenseless countries that wont be able to get the richer countries to support them. Also they get support from weaker countries who dont want to look like the enemies of America, such as Canada. Basically this is the 3rd world ward, and its on third world countries developing right before our eyes.

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  • #527509
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    cookielogic
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    roger moore?  james bond?

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  • #527510
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    13kavak

     did you want the  first to jump off the bridge ribbon  pinned to your corpse. I think you have drank a good amount of the american blind patriotism kool aid.

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  • #527511
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    llperez

    Really we are gonna bring up how we treated native Americans centuries ago as relevance today? And I’m proudly part Sioux Indian but let’s keep with the times here.

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    • #527515
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      cookielogic
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      don’t claim to be sioux and then forget about your ancestors struggle by saying lets get with the times.  that is the so disrespectful.  apple pie native….that is just wrong.

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  • #527513
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    cookielogic
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    i have been to america, in fact i live in the middle of it.  i know it well.  my ancestors knew it well, even before it was america.  i see all of the supporters and they do outnumber us detractors.   but, ohcanada has a good many legit points.  you seldom can know how brutal your oppressor is from the inside.  you have to step out and see it from the persepctive of the victim to really know.

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  • #527512
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    OhCanada-
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    Im wondering what they will name the American holiday for this day.

    Once again I have nothing against the normal American man in any way, just it maybe time to do some research on what your country is really doing and drop the ego. None of you are American decent anyways, your ancestors just murdered their way in their or you are immigrants. How can the greatest nation in the world be founded on murder, and supported by murder.

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  • #527514
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    13kavak

     on what youve stated  anyone that has read animal farm should see the history of america in it.  I think you also have to look at canada and see that it unlike america lacks a history of getting involved in stupid wars  and if it does its because its trying to appease america, this goes back to the founding of both countries.

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  • #527516
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    llperez

    USA picks on poor defenseless countries that mess with us. Bring up some examples of USA trying to exterminate naions that have done nothing to us please.

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  • #527517
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    llperez

    Who said inforgot about the struggle of native Americans? Fact is there is lots to be embarrassed about for evey single nation out there if you go back long enough I prefer to live in today.

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  • #527518
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    Im Your Father
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    I’m sorry our country matters.

    The United States has undoubtedly done some questionable and regrettable   things in it’s existence, as has any country. We have also been driven by our own self interests, as is any country. But we have also done more than any other nation to spread democracy and freedom. We have extended aid to countless areas that have needed it. We were the driving force behind the defeat of Nazi Germany. While we made some terrible decisions in the process (such as the support of Bin Laden) we ultimately held back the spread of communism. 

    Those are a few of the things that make our country great, and yes better than yours Oh Canada. 

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  • #527519
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    13kavak

     people and how america did   canada created nunavut   america creates reservations so natives think they are in control but the reality is different 

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  • #527520
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    Im Your Father
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    13kavak are you serious? Do you honestly think Orwell’s Animal Farm is about America. The book is about the RUSSIAN Revolution. 

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  • #527521
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    13kavak

     please look at the true reasons  A  because the jews in america through media and social pressure were demanding it  and B  because of fear we were going to be conquered.

    please dont look at america jumping in at the last second out of fear as something to be proud of  

    and llperez   that country would be called iraq   when your asked to leave its not a positive sign

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  • #527522
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    cookielogic
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    don’t forget that the united states supported the nazi’s before war broke out in europe.  they recieved US money to build up their military.  the US always does this.  bin laden was CIA in the 80s, heussein was put in charge of iraq in the late 60s to keep tabs on iran and to protect oil interests.  noriega was put in charge of panama after the CIA offed their beloved leader torrijos, CIA offed chile’s allende and put the evil pinochet in power, the list goes on and on…US government loves bad men, they understand each other.

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  • #527523
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    13kavak

     it isnt anymore    please reread it   its a tailored image to america, we have become what we fought against.

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  • #527524
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    llperez

    Iraq openly supported and harbored terrorists, so no they don’t qualify as an innocent county who did not provoke America.

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  • #527525
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    Im Your Father
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    Yes, we definitely joined WWII out of fear. Us being attacked by Japan had absolutely nothing to do with it. Nothing at all. 

    And yes I’m proud of America’s contributions in WWII, were the reason the Allies won the war. I’m proud of the hundreds of thousands of American men who set aside their jobs and went to fight a Fascist dictator. I’m certainly glad that the world isn’t ruled by Nazis. You have America to thank for that. 

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  • #527526
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    OhCanada-
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    USA picks on poor defenseless countries that mess with us. Bring up some examples of USA trying to exterminate naions that have done nothing to us please.

    False flag operations. Today they are doing the same thing they did in Vietnam, Russia, and all over with the whole communist propoganda. I dont see them helping South Korea defeat communist North Korea. They need help defeating the evil communists why isnt America helping to save the world?

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  • #527527
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    13kavak

     give it a rest  we attacked an innocent defenseless nation and we treated it like the superbowl.

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  • #527528
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    cookielogic
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    i dont recall anyone saying we should not have entered WW2…yes japan dragged us in.  you have achieved a gold star for the day.

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  • #527529
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    13kavak

     im your father   thanks for the support we did it out of defense  not because we wanted to do the right thing

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  • #527530
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    Im Your Father
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    I’m not saying invading Iraq was a good idea. But that "Innocent, defenseless country" was ruled by Saddam Hussein, the ruthless, oppressive dictator who killed millions of people. 

    Also, if the US had actually turned into Animal Farm, idiots like you wouldn’t be able to spew your conspiracy theories over the internet, because you would have been shot for questioning the government. We can still vote, we still have freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press… I don’t think Comrade Napoleon has too much control over us.

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  • #527531
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    OhCanada-
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    Just imagine all the money in Obamas death….I mean Osama. T shirts, Dvd’s, funny cartoons, documentaries, tributes to soldiers in superbowl games, concerts, mugs, pins, coins, statues, ipod stickers, fucking everything sells. A "Who Shot Osama" sticker would go for 50 bucks right now on ebay.

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  • #527532
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    13kavak

     give it ten or 20 years  see where were at

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  • #527533
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    jeff416
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    America>Canada

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  • #527534
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    llperez

    Bringing up why we are involved
    In Iraq and not Korea supports my argument and contradicts your arguments completely USA is not tryin to get in everyones business just those who provoke us like Iraq did and afghanastan did. North Korea ain’t messin with us and if they did they would get it too.

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  • #527535
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    Im Your Father
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    See in my opinion, declaring War on country who just killed thousands of your citizens is "the right thing." Just like it was the "right thing" for us to kill Bin Laden. 

    Regardless, if you want to get into the whole WWII thing, we were headed to war soon anyway. We had already held a draft and were providing a ton of financial support to Britain. It was only a matter of time until we declared war on the Axis.

    Also, according to your logic, shouldn’t we have just minded our own business and left alone, "poor defenseless Germany?" Personally, motives aside, I’m glad we entered the War and I’m glad we kicked ass.  

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  • #527536
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    OhCanada-
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    There is no need to call anybody idiots. I have no harsh feelings towards anybody who does not believe or agree with what I say, but if you do disagee I will put my beliefs out there. Like I said I still have respect for any working class American, and any soldier.

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  • #527537
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    cookielogic
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    yes we can still vote for the wealthy elite…hooray

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  • #527538
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    OhCanada-
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    Germany was not poor and defensless, your country helped make them rich and well armed.

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  • #527539
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    Im Your Father
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    Do you honestly think we went after Bin Laden for financial reasons? I’d say it had to do more with terrorist plot that he masterminded that resulted in the death of thousands of Americans. Should we have just left him alone?

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    cookielogic
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    bin laden was just an excuse to further invade the region.  he was a scapegoat…but i am sure you will call me an idiot and go about your day.

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  • #527541
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    13kavak

     and america would NEVER  have the balls to attack north korea  it can defend itself

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  • #527542
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    cookielogic
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    anyone remember the president bush press conference when someone asked him what the US government and military was doing about bin laden and he responded by saying, "oh i dont care about him anymore."  or something along those lines…that was a good hint that something other than what the media told us was happening was actually happening.

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  • #527543
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    Im Your Father
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    That isn’t even true about America funding Germany. What are you talking about. Germany was a financial ruin after WWI because of all the reparations, and the League of Nations ended up not collecting all the money that they owed, but the U.S. definitely was not pooring money into Nazi Germany. Somehow I don’t think they were doing a lot of foreign investment during the Great Depression, I think the money may have have been needed elsewhere.

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  • #527544
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    OhCanada-
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    The terrorist attack was a false event that the American elitists and likely C.I.A. staged to gain nationwide acceptance on a war in the middle east. Thats all. If they could train Osama well enough to eventually become a world renowned murderous villian (American media proclaimed), then they can train a bunch of guys to stage a plane hijacking, and fly it into some buildings.

    Your telling me they couldnt have picked off those planes before they flew into the heart of New York, the Pentagon, etc. I thought this was the greatest nation in the world, with the greatest defences, and the greatest military.

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  • #527545
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    13kavak

     were bin ladens family members. bush had a very good relationship with the saudis and they have invested heavily in america.

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  • #527546
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    cookielogic
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    exactly, germany was in financial ruin…hence the US began to give aide to germany.  prescott bush, george bush jr’s grandpa, was an investor who directly helped fund the nazi party.

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  • #527547
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    cookielogic
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    yeah i was holding back on the inside job talk but oh canada is correct.  tons of evidence…

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  • #527548
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    13kavak

     months before it happened and we were working on deciphering the arabic translation right before it did happen.

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  • #527549
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    Im Your Father
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    Bin Laden was not a "Scapegoat to invade the region." Unless of course by that you mean "A terrorist who killed thousands of of our people." We had every right in the world to go after him and to kill him. 

    I’m done with this though, I cannot argue with this amount of ignorance, at some point you just need to let it go. 

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    Hale
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    History channel said Aliens helped Germany…even made a UFO type ship…

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  • #527551
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    cookielogic
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    and many others around the world who have been robbed of their land and resources to point of murder have the right to go after america…that is the logic you just spun on us.

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  • #527552
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    cookielogic
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    love that ancient aliens show…

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  • #527553
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    13kavak

     why the germans had some of the most advanced technology  and they were very close to developing their own bombs.

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  • #527554
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    llperez

    Tin foil hat time around here. Just because you read up about conspiracy theoris doesn’t make you more intelligent about things t just means that you are eating up stuff that is being spread by the minority media to get attention.

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  • #527556
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    cookielogic
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    so sure go ahead and believe everything they tell you then…do not think for yourself or make your mind up for yourself based on what you see….just keep believing the corporate media.  everything is fine.

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  • #527557
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    OhCanada-
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    I mean there were clearly explosives in the buildings… You can see explosions, they found thermite residue in dust samples, eye witnesses that were in the tower have said they witnessed bombs going off before the 1st tower hit. So much evidence…

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  • #527558
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    cookielogic
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    oh canada  i am with you on that whole thing.  unfortunately it will take a lifetime of deprogramming to convince folks who just cannot wrap their heads around the whole concept.  too scary for some.

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  • #527559
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    13kavak

     do you honestly think that its because they want you to know the truth?  how the rest of the world feels? if so I will gladly wear my tin foil hat  if youll wear a diaper and use a rattler because that level of naiveness should be reserved for babies.

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  • #527560
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    llperez

    I don’t believe everything. But I believe enough to know the USA are the good guys more often turning and I can feel proud of the county I live in.

    And it’s too bad hat a thread that every civilized human should be able to agree is a positive thing( terrorists leaders death) got hijacked by anti American sentiment.

    In any case, I got to log off my computer(American) and turn my tv(American) and get ready to drive my car(American) to work tomorrow.

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  • #527561
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    cookielogic
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    laughable, an american computer and american tv?  HA…who cares.

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  • #527562
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    DanEboy
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    If the shit ever hits the fan in Canada, who are you guys gonna call to bail your defenseless country out?

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  • #527563
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    13kavak

     in america  their is no car with parts not made in asia or latin america  and id be shocked if their was much of anything made anymore strictly in america.

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  • #527564
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    13kavak

     and if your talking international good will I am positive canada would make us look like amateurs in that department.

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  • #527565
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    llperez

    I’m referring to who invented them geniuses. Yeah who cares about such trivial inventions

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  • #527566
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    OhCanada-
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    Any self respecting American Patriot should be able to watch this. Any rational human being should elaborate and reseacrh these facts and questions. Im not saying every conspiracy is true, but there is no way…ugh Im getting sick of this fight for you people. You know we arent fighting you people we are fighting for you!

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  • #527567
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    OhCanada-
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    DanEboy I am not against American people. I am not against Canadian people. I am just against supporting nation leaders, especially those of our collective countries and the UN. I’ve said this countless times. I am also fully aware that this way of ‘living" I have been granted with is all thanks to the American elitists.

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  • #527568
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    13kavak

     John Logie Baird, a Scot living in England is recognized as the first to demonstrate an operational television in March of 1925. It was a public demonstration held in Selfridges, a London department store. His "Televisor" system showed moving images being delivered via an electrical signal



    Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_invented_the_television#ixzz1LAjYVtAP

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  • #527569
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    13kavak

     

    Nicolas-Joseph Cugnot (1725-1804)1769STEAM / Built the first self propelled road vehicle (military tractor) for the French army: three wheeled, 2.5 mph.France
    Robert Anderson1832-1839ELECTRIC / Electric carriage.Scotland
    Karl Friedrich Benz (1844-1929)1885/86GASOLINE / First true automobile. Gasoline automobile powered by an internal combustion engine: three wheeled, Four cycle, engine and chassis form a single unit.Germany Patent DRP No. 37435
    Gottlieb Wilhelm Daimler (1834-1900) and Wilhelm Maybach (1846-1929)1886GASOLINE / First four wheeled, four-stroke engine- known as the "Cannstatt-Daimler."Germany
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  • #527570
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    OhCanada-
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    Anyways Im sorry for offending any of you on here, just sharing my opinion. Im gonna stick to talking about basketball on this site…

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  • #527571
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    whatever
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    Greatest country in the world????? Americans ego is just ridiculous. I have nothing against Americans, I have been in US a number of times as a tourist and they have always being very nice to me and my family. However I think they are sometimes a little bit close minded and even ignorant in some of the things they say. For instance I am from Costa Rica (happiest country in the world according to studies search it on wikipedia haha) a peacefull (no army), democratic, free country and I have been asked more than once by americans while Im there "what it feels like to visit a free democratic country" which seems funny to me since in my country people enjoy a freedom that Americans only can dream of.  Im not hating on Americans I like their people and enjoy watching their sports and movies Im just saying u need a lesson in humbleness.

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  • #527572
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    13kavak

     The first computer, or "modern computer" was invented in World War II by a German engineer, Konrad Zuse in 1941 called the Z3.



    Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_invented_the_computer#ixzz1LAki9ZsZ

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  • #527574
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    13kavak

     a  you drive worse than in new york city  I am amazed I survived my trip there because of the way people drive and b  your medicine is very weak  my dentist felt very sorry for me that their was nothing stronger he could have perscribed that  your local pharmacy would have had in stock.

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  • #527575
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    cookielogic
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    didn’t even invent basketball for crying out loud…naismith was a canadian!!

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  • #527576
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    13kavak

     wal-mart  who hoo LOL. we made cheapness and bad quality more of a staple than the asians did YAY  for us and capitalism!

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  • #527579
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    OhCanada-
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    Looks like the patriots have given up…

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  • #527580
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    billyk
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    American forgien policy is to squash democractic elected leaders if they arent in our best intrest case in point, the documentary called The war on democracy by john pillager… We are trying to do to the middle east is what the have been doing to Latin American countries since the 50’s.. Don’t believe me google: America and democracy in Latin America…

    Its a sad fact people don’t realize the we are an empire that spend 3 times more on our military industrial complex than the rest of the world combined… This country is a war machine that uses popular culture, right/left win propaganda and the media to fool our citizens… No other country occupies the world like the United States and of course US military comes in different forms (NATO and UN)…

    But, somebody has got to be the bad guy…

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  • #527581
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    jeff416
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    If America isn’t the greatest counrty in the world, then who is?

     

    And don’t say Canada, because if they were to get into a actual war, they would get there @$$ kicked and beg America to help them.

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  • #527582
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    13kavak

     very good facts and I cant agree more.

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  • #527583
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    13kavak

     or bad the country is in your opinion?  then america will always be number one in your opinion. many others think facts that determine our everyday quality of life are more important.

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  • #527584
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    jeff416
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    No, it doesn’t determine how good the country is. But if you are the greatest country in the world, you should at least have a good enough military to defend yourself.

     

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  • #527585
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    EuroBall
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    Look I know everyone may question his death. Understand this, the United States do not play with History, I repeat They do not play with History. He is Died believe it or not. Hell what to believe?  "Hell, I think he died of sickness”. 

    Imma stop am adding more mix up.

     

     

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  • #527586
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    13kavak

     687,105,000,000   the rest of the world even amongst top 10 spends 61,285,000,000    huge difference   canada is in top 15 in world in military so unless their fight is with the u,s they should be just fine   breaking it down we spend 11 times as much as the rest of the world towards military exspenses   which is ridiculus 

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  • #527587
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    13kavak

     the u.s does in the top  60 militarys in the world they are  saudi arabia, u.a.e, israel and oman. the u.s probably spends as much as the rest of the world does combined for military functions.

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  • #527588
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  • #527589
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    jeff416
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    If America, England, Germany, China, Japan, France, or Russia started a war with Canada, they wouldn’t stand a chance.

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  • #527590
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    13kavak

     if the rest of the world started a battle with the u.s it might not stand a chance- not a good thing that thats where our national values lie  think about all the problems in america  and all of the money is going into the military

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  • #527591
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    13kavak

     america

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  • #527592
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    whatever
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    Are you really measuring a countrys greatness on their military power??? according to that logic nazi Germany was one of greatest countries cause it took England, France, USA and especially Russia to defeat the Germans. Think a little before talking. A countrys greatness should be measured on their contributions to make the world a better place not on their killing potential.

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  • #527593
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    jeff416
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    They wouldn’t stand a chance against any of them. Do you actually think Canada, would actually be able to win against China who has over a billion more people then them?

     

    And btw I’m not judging a country on it’s military power, I’m just saying the greatest country in the world should be able to defend itself against anybody.

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  • #527595
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    13kavak

     any country has the ability to defend itself if no one attacks it  see switzerland   dont start no sht wont be no sht

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  • #527597
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    jeff416
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    Please, other countries start stuff all the time. Just because Canada isn’t going to start anything, it doesn’t mean another country wont try to start a war with them.

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  • #527598
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    13kavak

     according to your lack of logic  we would be seeing significantly more wars than occur. the object is to avoid war not get into them, are you aware people{ lots of people} die in wars? have you lost track of this fact, if you have you would be the perfect politician if you could get enough dumb people to vote for you

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  • #527601
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    jeff416
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    I agree, you should try to avoid war if you can. And even though Canada is very unlikely to be in a big war like that anytime soon, it’s still possible for another country to try to attack you.

     

    Throughout history there have been wars for land, resources, or just to conquer them. It’s not any different now.

     

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  • #527602
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    TeamShowtimeLakers
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    for all those people he killed, it is about time that dude got killed…i been waiting for this forever…

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  • #527605
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    kanyedabest
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    be a little scary living in New York or LA or a major us center right now….. there god has just been killed, retaliation is inevitable

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  • #527606
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    kanyedabest
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    eh ohcanada man u needa quit the non sense cause as a canadian u embarrasing me nd ur fellow country men with your idiotic comments…. keep tht ish to yourself cause you make canada sound inept

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  • #527608
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    jazz270
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    New here.

    Don’t think I’ll stay. I’ve enjoyed reading most of the threads, but I can’t believe you guys are talking politics on a basketball site.

    No one agrees on politics, it just makes people angry.

    However, just to respond a little to what’s been said…..I’m American-Norwegian, grew up in a household with different ideas than most American homes, with a Norwegian mother and an American dad. I heard both sides of the argument, America is a bully, America is the greatest…

    Truth is, no nation is lilly white, not even America. Every country has it’s warts, but only one is great enough to talk about them openly, with a free press, freedom of expression, the right to vote for who you want even if he’s an idiot. Canada is not perfect, nor is America, not even Costa Rica. I’ve done a little traveling over the last 60 years, and America is the greatest country for ME. I’ve been threatened by border guards in Russia and Czheckslovakia and what was Yugoslavia, been behind the Iron Curtain when it was real. It sucked. It was horrible. It was evil. I was so dammed glad to cross into free Germany, I cried. I was free.

    EVERY country has it’s warts, even Canada. I love Canada, love the people. That doesn’t make it perfect. I don’t see any state in the Union trying to secede from the Union because they spoke a different language. Hell, they don’t even speak French. Canada has had it’s trouble with the Indians as well, to pretend it isn’t so is sad. Go back far enough in any country, and there is someone who’s been eradicated for land, or religion, whatever. America was the last great country on Earth to be settled, so the memory is fresh in our minds. It was not right, none of it is. History shows that it’s happened time and time again in EVERY country, not just America. Get off the high horse, and get real. America admits it’s mistakes, which is more than some countries who never make them. Yeah. Ok.

    To compare the Nazi’s with America…That just speaks perfectly about the intelligence of the source. If it were not for America, Canadians would be speaking GERMAN, and so would the rest of Europe. Face it, WE won the damn war, and I lost two uncles to the Nazi’s in Norway. They believed in freedom, and gave their lives for it. My family in Norway was devastated by the Nazi’s, so I have the right to say this. Anyone who compares the Nazi’s with America is a fool, plain and simple. Tell me to my face that I’m like a Nazi. Go ahead. Hitler killed TEN MILLION Jews in less than ten years…..and other undesireables, like the handicapped. Visit Dachau, like I’ve done, and then tell me Americans do the same thing.

    Bin Laden is dead and it’s a good thing. Good riddance.

    The only reason America spends so much money on it’s military is because the rest of the world with a few exceptions…Can’t defend themselves. So we have to, and I hate it. I hate seeing Americans killed in a rat hole of a country when the people don’t care enough to defend themselves.

    If you love your country, I’m all for it. Just don’t tell me that yours is better than mine.

     

     

     

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  • #527609
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    My wife and children are Jewish, I have Muslim friends and family, I have German born brothers from other mothers, my best friends growing up were 2 Koreans and one crazy ass Italian, I love Chinese food and culture and all in all I would love to live in Toronto Canada, my south American ancestry does not make me anymore or less American or human, I have seen lots of evil in my country, and I see it all over the world, if some people want to cheer the death of another human being than that’s their choice, if some people want to point out the underlined factors that make the world so chaotic that’s their right as well, we all do things that are in direct violation of the code of honor, we all have good and evil in us, this coming from an anti government/anti religion Scarecrow " This is the beginning of a violent end, the dawn of our destruction… "…this country has lots of flaws, lots of victory and defeat and sometime soon we will pay for our own crimes against humanity, if Bin Laden was a demon or devil in human form than our government was Lucifer’s Chief of Operations, we drop bombs daily that kill women and children, we are all guilty of this, we stand by and watch them appoint dictators and destroy them in the same breathe once they lose their influence on the people, the truth is always ugly, what we must do is embrace the darkness because soon enough that darkness will engulf the world of man, a ruthless killer is dead , while the men that empowered him are becoming richer and more influential by the second, he was on Burn Notice and was since we pushed back the soviets and turned our backs on the Afghan people, 911 was a tragedy but one our government greatly benefited from, namely Bush/Chaney and their investment groups, war/death equals profit and we don’t all have to own funeral homes to see it, there is a tide coming in and we all need to hold our breathe and embrace our fate…I’m fearful for the innocent children of the world because we the previous generations of Men have destroyed a planet that has provided us so much…

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  • #527612
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    Mkadoza
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    Oh Canada, my ancestors were 14/16th African slave decent, and cherokee and navajo. Also, my contemporaries still suffer from a rediculously skewed arrest to conviction rate, lower pay scale, overflowing prison population, and terribly underfunded schools, and the media here unanimously says things are getting better. So trust and believe, I know a little something about the hypocracy that my country engages in everyday. 

    But to me, this is about our preoccupation with hating each other while we all simultaniously kill the planet for the sake of money. The influence of the World Bank in Third World countries is so pervasive and mostly devastating to the majority of people in the country, it should be considered genocide. It’s like Goldman Saxx, hedging bets against the morgage market when they we forcing it towards collapse. The wealthiest people in the world collectively inciting violence to cash in on it.

    And there are plenty of genocides funded just this way, in South America, Africa, and Asia.. many times over First World "luxury items" (jewels, gold, oil, drugs), and no one knows, nor caares… Thats how I know the War on Drugs is a crock of shit. And the War on Terrorism. Way too much capital for the weapons manufacturers, drug lords, and law enforcement agencies. And don’t get me started on the pharmaceutical companies and insurance firms.

    All this, and we ignore the fact that our dependance on oil will kill us in 50 years. Our planets population has grown too massive without putting thoughts or plans on how to compensate, (like solar powered, sustanable farms everywhere in America for example). Insane ammounts of waste and polution, deforestation, chemicals, radiation… this way of living isn’t sustainable…. we’re on a crash course for something terrible, and fighting each other isn’t going to matter when half the world is starving. Now is the absolute moment to start doing something, and preoccupying ourselves with just another pawn in the GLOBAL machine is ignoring whats really important.

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  • #527630
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    M-DYMES
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    Inside M-DYMES head…

    Here is all the thoughts that rambled through my head as I watched our people celebrate…

    1.  We look like &$#%#&@! savages, it was like watching a damn campus college party because we assassinated Bin Laden.  Many people felt it’s great he is dead, but my lord do we have to celebrate an assassination in a greater fashion than 90% of the celebratory moments this country and its people encounter?  Revenge, i guess in some eyes is great, but i kind of is disappointing to me to see it celebrated like this. 

    2.  The beginning of the end?  If Al Qaeda happens to obtain nuclear arms or enhanced chemical warfare, these dudes are not going to be afraid to use it against us and our people after this watching this unfold.  In their eyes they even have more reason now to cause destruction to the US and various nations.  Possible WWIII?

    3.  Is this another attempt at increasing patriotism so our government can once again rally its people into entering another war or take greater steps in our current battles?  Its happened damn near every presidency within recent memory.

    4.  Show me the pictures, no check that, FACTUAL EVIDENCE, b/c after everything this government has done in the past, I want concrete evidence.  Send me Bin Laden’s head. 

    5.  We focus all our efforts on killing one man, but we can’t get &$#%#&@! water to people in New Orleans, wait till damn near the end of the Rwandan Genocide to make any presence in the ordeal, and we can’t help free the people of Gaza?  Are we really this centered upon only taking action in Middle East situations in countries filled with abundant resources of value?  Oil is our primary objective if you ask me.

    6.  Bin Laden was chillin in a freakin mansion.  Cave…Mansion…samething.

    7.  We made Al Qaeda.  We funded these dudes to be our mercenaries before.  We are partially responsible for given these dudes the power/resources they have.

    8.  If this was Obama’s primary goal, can we focus on the damn economy now?  Or are our efforts going to go even further into fighting battles anywhere but on our homeland.

     

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  • #527654
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    Nbanflguy
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    Wtf! We buried bin laden at sea! Last time i checked, we did that with the transformers and that didnt work out so well……

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  • #527655
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    ProudGrandpa
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    Osama Bin Laden is burning in Hell right now and we are all celebrating like its a national holiday

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  • #527657
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    BKKnicksfan
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    OBAMA = SWAG

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  • #527659
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    Lotto Stud
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    IT SEEMS 2 AMAZE ME HOW EVERYBODY THINK THIS OSAMA SH*T HILARIOUS……..SH*T WON’T BE 2 FUNNY WHEN THEY COME STRAIGHT 2 NORFOLK & HIT NOB……..JUST A LITTLE SOMTHING FOR YOU ALL 2 PONDER ON FOR THE SIMPLE FACT THAT NORFOLK HAS DA WORLDS LARGEST NAVAL BASE WHICH IS A CITY IN VA BY ME

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  • #527660
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    Nbanflguy
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    Why shouldnt we be celebrating? The biggest piece of human garbage on the planet, responisible for thousands of deaths, was killed. Hell yeah i will celebrate. Would have done the same thing when Hitler died.

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  • #527662
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  • #527698
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    Hitster
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    Good boost for President Obama and no doubt lots of Americans will see this as some retribution for 9/11. Here in the UK it has widely been reported and like the majority of you in the US, I hope this will speed up the peace process in the Middle East. But everyone will need to beware of any Al Qaeda backlash but lets celebrate this triumph for now!

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  • #527754
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    Demarcus Oneal
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     This is why we should just stick to talking about Basketball on this site

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  • #527755
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    JJeff6
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    This is obviously a great thing, but expect al qaeda to come back as strong as ever.  They are probably po’d at america now for taking their leader, so personally, I am not at rest at all.  Just happy that the innocent peoples families finally got some justice

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  • #527790
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    Steroid
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    Osama is just a figurehead for Al Queda when it comes down to it. They will lose morale, but there will still be people straping bombs on themselves and killing themselves in the name of Allah. The war on terrorism can never truly be won because there is really no structure to it. In fact, it only makes it more dangerous and more unpredictable than ever because there is no "leader" and terrorist cells making moves on their own with no orders & retaliating on their own accord. The best thing we can do is cut off the people that supply these terrorists. We nailed one of the biggest black market arms dealers not too long ago. That is the only way they truly can be weakened.

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  • #527828
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    M-DYMES
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    When we no longer live in fear of terror, we no longer will have anything to fear.  A war against terrorism is impossible.  There will always be this idea of terrorism, just as surely as there will always be drugs.  Having a war on terror or war on drugs is just stupid.  Sure, you can win the small battles, but the war is something that can never be victorious.  You can not defeat an idea or belief system.  Those things are engrained in humanity, and unless we all end up getting killed off (which damn well could happen in this day and age, the way things are going) they will never disappear.

     

    Funny…religion is the one thing that factions claim will save people.  Yet it is peoples’ reluctance to accept others’ beliefs in varying religions that may end up killing us all.

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