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i have been to america, in

i have been to america, in fact i live in the middle of it. i know it well. my ancestors knew it well, even before it was america. i see all of the supporters and they do outnumber us detractors. but, ohcanada has a good many legit points. you seldom can know how brutal your oppressor is from the inside. you have to step out and see it from the persepctive of the victim to really know.

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ohcanada I cannot agree with you anymore

on what youve stated anyone that has read animal farm should see the history of america in it. I think you also have to look at canada and see that it unlike america lacks a history of getting involved in stupid wars and if it does its because its trying to appease america, this goes back to the founding of both countries.

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USA picks on poor defenseless

USA picks on poor defenseless countries that mess with us. Bring up some examples of USA trying to exterminate naions that have done nothing to us please.

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Who said inforgot about the

Who said inforgot about the struggle of native Americans? Fact is there is lots to be embarrassed about for evey single nation out there if you go back long enough I prefer to live in today.

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I'm sorry our country

I'm sorry our country matters.

The United States has undoubtedly done some questionable and regrettable things in it's existence, as has any country. We have also been driven by our own self interests, as is any country. But we have also done more than any other nation to spread democracy and freedom. We have extended aid to countless areas that have needed it. We were the driving force behind the defeat of Nazi Germany. While we made some terrible decisions in the process (such as the support of Bin Laden) we ultimately held back the spread of communism.

Those are a few of the things that make our country great, and yes better than yours Oh Canada.

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also look at how america treated its indigenous

people and how america did canada created nunavut america creates reservations so natives think they are in control but the reality is different

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13kavak are you serious? Do

13kavak are you serious? Do you honestly think Orwell's Animal Farm is about America. The book is about the RUSSIAN Revolution.

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just why did america get involved in ww2

please look at the true reasons A because the jews in america through media and social pressure were demanding it and B because of fear we were going to be conquered.

please dont look at america jumping in at the last second out of fear as something to be proud of

and llperez that country would be called iraq when your asked to leave its not a positive sign

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don't forget that the united

don't forget that the united states supported the nazi's before war broke out in europe. they recieved US money to build up their military. the US always does this. bin laden was CIA in the 80s, heussein was put in charge of iraq in the late 60s to keep tabs on iran and to protect oil interests. noriega was put in charge of panama after the CIA offed their beloved leader torrijos, CIA offed chile's allende and put the evil pinochet in power, the list goes on and on...US government loves bad men, they understand each other.

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LMAO IT WAS

it isnt anymore please reread it its a tailored image to america, we have become what we fought against.

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Iraq openly supported and

Iraq openly supported and harbored terrorists, so no they don't qualify as an innocent county who did not provoke America.

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Yes, we definitely joined

Yes, we definitely joined WWII out of fear. Us being attacked by Japan had absolutely nothing to do with it. Nothing at all.

And yes I'm proud of America's contributions in WWII, were the reason the Allies won the war. I'm proud of the hundreds of thousands of American men who set aside their jobs and went to fight a Fascist dictator. I'm certainly glad that the world isn't ruled by Nazis. You have America to thank for that.

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USA picks on poor defenseless

USA picks on poor defenseless countries that mess with us. Bring up some examples of USA trying to exterminate naions that have done nothing to us please.

False flag operations. Today they are doing the same thing they did in Vietnam, Russia, and all over with the whole communist propoganda. I dont see them helping South Korea defeat communist North Korea. They need help defeating the evil communists why isnt America helping to save the world?

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llperez are you also still looking for the wmds

give it a rest we attacked an innocent defenseless nation and we treated it like the superbowl.

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i dont recall anyone saying

i dont recall anyone saying we should not have entered WW2...yes japan dragged us in. you have achieved a gold star for the day.

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because south korea can actually defend itself

im your father thanks for the support we did it out of defense not because we wanted to do the right thing

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I'm not saying invading Iraq

I'm not saying invading Iraq was a good idea. But that "Innocent, defenseless country" was ruled by Saddam Hussein, the ruthless, oppressive dictator who killed millions of people.

Also, if the US had actually turned into Animal Farm, idiots like you wouldn't be able to spew your conspiracy theories over the internet, because you would have been shot for questioning the government. We can still vote, we still have freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom of the press... I don't think Comrade Napoleon has too much control over us.

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Just imagine all the money in

Just imagine all the money in Obamas death....I mean Osama. T shirts, Dvd's, funny cartoons, documentaries, tributes to soldiers in superbowl games, concerts, mugs, pins, coins, statues, ipod stickers, &$#%#&@! everything sells. A "Who Shot Osama" sticker would go for 50 bucks right now on ebay.

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we are just now entering the fall of america

give it ten or 20 years see where were at

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America>Canada

America>Canada

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Bringing up why we are

Bringing up why we are involved
In Iraq and not Korea supports my argument and contradicts your arguments completely USA is not tryin to get in everyones business just those who provoke us like Iraq did and afghanastan did. North Korea ain't messin with us and if they did they would get it too.

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See in my opinion, declaring

See in my opinion, declaring War on country who just killed thousands of your citizens is "the right thing." Just like it was the "right thing" for us to kill Bin Laden.

Regardless, if you want to get into the whole WWII thing, we were headed to war soon anyway. We had already held a draft and were providing a ton of financial support to Britain. It was only a matter of time until we declared war on the Axis.

Also, according to your logic, shouldn't we have just minded our own business and left alone, "poor defenseless Germany?" Personally, motives aside, I'm glad we entered the War and I'm glad we kicked ass.

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There is no need to call

There is no need to call anybody idiots. I have no harsh feelings towards anybody who does not believe or agree with what I say, but if you do disagee I will put my beliefs out there. Like I said I still have respect for any working class American, and any soldier.

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yes we can still vote for the

yes we can still vote for the wealthy elite...hooray

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Germany was not poor and

Germany was not poor and defensless, your country helped make them rich and well armed.

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Do you honestly think we went

Do you honestly think we went after Bin Laden for financial reasons? I'd say it had to do more with terrorist plot that he masterminded that resulted in the death of thousands of Americans. Should we have just left him alone?

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bin laden was just an excuse

bin laden was just an excuse to further invade the region. he was a scapegoat...but i am sure you will call me an idiot and go about your day.

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we did for ten years why not

and america would NEVER have the balls to attack north korea it can defend itself

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anyone remember the president

anyone remember the president bush press conference when someone asked him what the US government and military was doing about bin laden and he responded by saying, "oh i dont care about him anymore." or something along those lines...that was a good hint that something other than what the media told us was happening was actually happening.

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That isn't even true about

That isn't even true about America funding Germany. What are you talking about. Germany was a financial ruin after WWI because of all the reparations, and the League of Nations ended up not collecting all the money that they owed, but the U.S. definitely was not pooring money into Nazi Germany. Somehow I don't think they were doing a lot of foreign investment during the Great Depression, I think the money may have have been needed elsewhere.

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The terrorist attack was a

The terrorist attack was a false event that the American elitists and likely C.I.A. staged to gain nationwide acceptance on a war in the middle east. Thats all. If they could train Osama well enough to eventually become a world renowned murderous villian (American media proclaimed), then they can train a bunch of guys to stage a plane hijacking, and fly it into some buildings.

Your telling me they couldnt have picked off those planes before they flew into the heart of New York, the Pentagon, etc. I thought this was the greatest nation in the world, with the greatest defences, and the greatest military.

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so was the fact that the only ones flying after sept 11th

were bin ladens family members. bush had a very good relationship with the saudis and they have invested heavily in america.

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exactly, germany was in

exactly, germany was in financial ruin...hence the US began to give aide to germany. prescott bush, george bush jr's grandpa, was an investor who directly helped fund the nazi party.

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yeah i was holding back on

yeah i was holding back on the inside job talk but oh canada is correct. tons of evidence...

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oh canada is right again we knew about it

months before it happened and we were working on deciphering the arabic translation right before it did happen.

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Bin Laden was not a

Bin Laden was not a "Scapegoat to invade the region." Unless of course by that you mean "A terrorist who killed thousands of of our people." We had every right in the world to go after him and to kill him.

I'm done with this though, I cannot argue with this amount of ignorance, at some point you just need to let it go.

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History channel said Aliens

History channel said Aliens helped Germany...even made a UFO type ship...

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and many others around the

and many others around the world who have been robbed of their land and resources to point of murder have the right to go after america...that is the logic you just spun on us.

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love that ancient aliens

love that ancient aliens show...

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if that is true it might help explain

why the germans had some of the most advanced technology and they were very close to developing their own bombs.

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Tin foil hat time around

Tin foil hat time around here. Just because you read up about conspiracy theoris doesn't make you more intelligent about things t just means that you are eating up stuff that is being spread by the minority media to get attention.

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so sure go ahead and believe

so sure go ahead and believe everything they tell you then...do not think for yourself or make your mind up for yourself based on what you see....just keep believing the corporate media. everything is fine.

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I mean there were clearly

I mean there were clearly explosives in the buildings... You can see explosions, they found thermite residue in dust samples, eye witnesses that were in the tower have said they witnessed bombs going off before the 1st tower hit. So much evidence...

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oh canada i am with you on

oh canada i am with you on that whole thing. unfortunately it will take a lifetime of deprogramming to convince folks who just cannot wrap their heads around the whole concept. too scary for some.

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llperez why are their two cnns

do you honestly think that its because they want you to know the truth? how the rest of the world feels? if so I will gladly wear my tin foil hat if youll wear a diaper and use a rattler because that level of naiveness should be reserved for babies.

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I don't believe everything.

I don't believe everything. But I believe enough to know the USA are the good guys more often turning and I can feel proud of the county I live in.

And it's too bad hat a thread that every civilized human should be able to agree is a positive thing( terrorists leaders death) got hijacked by anti American sentiment.

In any case, I got to log off my computer(American) and turn my tv(American) and get ready to drive my car(American) to work tomorrow.

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laughable, an american

laughable, an american computer and american tv? HA...who cares.

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If the &$#%#&@! ever hits the

If the &$#%#&@! ever hits the fan in Canada, who are you guys gonna call to bail your defenseless country out?

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LOL they are american because you purchased them

in america their is no car with parts not made in asia or latin america and id be shocked if their was much of anything made anymore strictly in america.

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I highly doubt Canada is defenseless

and if your talking international good will I am positive canada would make us look like amateurs in that department.

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