Oladipo
I can tell you right now, Oladipo is talented but he is not on wades level. Wade averaged 22 5 and 3 in his first full season as the ONLY legitimate option on his team, he also played point guard early in his career. Victors team is loaded so teams can't only key in on him
I agree that Oldipo is no Wade but I don't really agree with your reasoning. If Oladipo was the only option on his team, yes he would receive more attention from the other team but he would also have the ball in his hands more which leads to higher stats such as D-Wades. The main diffrence between the two is Wades ability to get into the lane.
SMH as well, Don't get me wrong I like this guy, but I like him for the college game. The hype around this guy is unreal, I mean there is post on him everyday on here...
Although I think he will have a nice career... it would surprise me if he was more than just a solid player coming off the bench in the NBA..
It's Indiana crazy has two players who will be very good NBA players for a long time in Zeller and Oladipo and will not bust no matter what . Dipo is a sure thing mainly because of his defense...
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Take a guy like Archie Goodwin for example. ----2 years and 4 months younger than Oladipo----
About the same wingspan if not longer with a really good built as well.
Goowin is already a better shot creator, better handles, better shooter off the dribble, last year Oladipo shot .20 3fg%. This year Goodwin started the season shooting a good 3pg% but started taking harder shots as difficulty of games got harder because of Kentucky play.
If Goodwin was Indiana two years from now he would be a beast as well.
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Take CJ McCollum (5 months older than Oladipo) and replace him with Victor. Would he be the leading scorer in the nation? would he be a go to scorer?
Don't tell me you would take a defender with a top 5 pick. Oladipo handles in the half court aren't nice, but more in the open court where he uses speed. He operates like a power forward down low. no shot off the dribble.
i will keep going later, g2g
Im watching the NC State, and the same effect that has TJ Warren shooting 615FG% - .50 FG% is the same effect that has Oladipo shooting his .64FG% - .52 3FG%
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"[[TJ Warren]] could easily average 20+ ppg on a bad team, he only takes 8.0 field goals a game because of how stacked his team is "
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I would like to see Oladipo in Kentavious Caldwell's Georgia squad were the defense would clamp down on him, see if he would be getting KCP's 18ppg 6.6rpg 2apg 2.2spg.
(not to mention KCP is like 7/8 months younger than Oladipo)
I like him but I'm not as big on him as everybody else. He brings everything to his team from defense to crashing the boards to making shots. His biggest asset is his heart and toughness. He's a warrior on the court and I love that. But I dont think he's a top 5 pick. I think that's kinda pushing it. I agree with LBJ's hairline, he benefits from having Watford and Zeller as better scoring options than him. He's a slasher and because of them, he is able to be way more efficient than he would be if it was his team alone. I like the Dahntay Jones comparison mentioned above. I think thats PERFECT.
He is such a a great athlete and a smart kid, graduating in 3 years. I'm very high on him and would be very happy if the Suns took him with their 2nd lotto pick. You know what you're getting with him and he plays so hard and scrappy but no, he's not Wade.
I completely agree with you. It is beyond me why people like Bazz goes top 5 when he hasn't done anything to show he is worth that, and then Oladipo is putting up insane stats and he goes in 20s. It is like they pick and choose which players will be good and completely ignore stats.
At this point I'd take him top 10 and have him ahead of Archie Goodwin in the SG rankings. He's a low risk, medium reward player with some upside because of his athleticism combined with his rate of improvement. He's not just a good defender, he's a game changing defender who defends well both on and off the ball.
Tony Allen is highly regarded for his defense. Now imagine if Tony wasn't a bonehead and could hit open jump shots out to the 3 pt arc. We'd be talking about a top 10 SG right there. That to me is Oladipo's potential.
So what if he projects to be a role player? Hardly anyone in this draft projects to be a star, maybe 1 player...2 tops and both are maybes. The rest of the players will be role players if they pan out, and that's a big if for a lot of these prospects. In this type of draft, the question for me would become (if I didn't have a chance to draft a potential star) what kind of impact can this player have as a role player? Oladipo can be a high level role player because of his combination of defense, intelligence, intangibles, athleticism and improved skill level. He'd have to regress to be a liability on the offensive end at the next level and I don't see that happening, not with his work ethic.
Another Oladipo thread? Why don't we continue the discussion on the ones that already exist?
Oladipo is a very good player, but I find it difficult that any GM's gives up on other prospects in the combine and spends a lotto pick on a low risk/medium reward player (as Siggy said), who won't probably ever provide decent offense.
I think he could be an Avery Bradley type player in the NBA, with upside to be even better because he has better physical tools and is more athletic.
They both are relentless on D and have a very high motor. Also, right now Oladipo gets a lot of points by just slashing and cutting, which is something Doc Rivers raves about Avery. They both have decent jump shots, but can't really shoot it off the dribble and crete their own shot.
I think Oladipo is a top 15 pick and is a safe one too. I think he will definitely contribute right away.
Said on hear a few weeks back that Oladipo really reminded me of D-Wade at this stage of his career at Marquette. Couldn't get anyone to really agree with me on here but magic and Dickie V are rolling with the comparison hard tonight.