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- Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 11:57am #23323
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantWhy is everybody all of a sudden on the Beasley bandwagon?
Here goes my story and here come the negatives.
1. Michael Beasley is a very good scorer and he’s easily one of the better young scorers in the league.
2. The same people calling him a bust are now saying that he’s a future All-Star.
Here’s where the negatives start…
3. He’s not as good as you guys are making him seem like. He’s averaging 22ppg on a very bad team. He’s looking so good because he’s on a bad team. A guy like Eric Gordon is a star because he’s on the Clippers, but if you put him on the Lakers, Celtics, Magic, Mavericks, Spurs or other championship level teams, he’s simply a spark off the bench. Beasley looks so good because we haven’t seen anything like this from Minny in years, since the KG years.
4. Quit with all this "all the owners are stupid!! they didn’t want Beasley!"
It’s not that the owners didn’t want him, it’s just that nobody wanted to help the Heat. There was no question that Beasley can average 20ppg on a bad team, the thing was that nobody wanted to help the Heat improve. With Beasley’s contract gone, they were able to sign Haslem, LeBron, and Miller. It only takes one stupid owner to feed Goliath. Do you really think the Cavs or Raps wanted Beasley? That’s like a guy taking your girlfriend and you pay for child support on their baby. The Cavs and Raps wanted to make it as difficult as possible for the Heat to succeed. Like I said, it takes one stupid owner to feed the Heat. With that trade, the Heat signed LeBron, Haslem and Miller.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 11:59am #439242
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantNote: I do admit that Beasley is a prolific scorer but quit overrating the kid.. It’s been 13 games.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 11:59am #439261
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantNote: I do admit that Beasley is a prolific scorer but quit overrating the kid.. It’s been 13 games.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 11:59am #439271
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantNote: I do admit that Beasley is a prolific scorer but quit overrating the kid.. It’s been 13 games.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:02pm #439257
hiphopismylifeParticipantThank you!!! These "experts" are such prisoners of the moment sometimes. Now hes a star after they spent two years bashing him.This is the same guy who was shipped out of Miami for a second rounder.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:02pm #439276
hiphopismylifeParticipantThank you!!! These "experts" are such prisoners of the moment sometimes. Now hes a star after they spent two years bashing him.This is the same guy who was shipped out of Miami for a second rounder.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:02pm #439286
hiphopismylifeParticipantThank you!!! These "experts" are such prisoners of the moment sometimes. Now hes a star after they spent two years bashing him.This is the same guy who was shipped out of Miami for a second rounder.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:02pm #439260
llperezi agree with 3. He is wuithout question better then i have given him creidt for in the past. But we are still talking about a guy whos greatest weapon is scoring and is putting up numbers on a sub par team.
As for 4, no the owners are stupid. Beasely was being given away to anybody with cap room for a bag of chips. Even i being not a beasley fan said at the time that was a steal becasue there really is no risk. 2 second rounders? And no body could come up with a better deal for miami?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:02pm #439279
llperezi agree with 3. He is wuithout question better then i have given him creidt for in the past. But we are still talking about a guy whos greatest weapon is scoring and is putting up numbers on a sub par team.
As for 4, no the owners are stupid. Beasely was being given away to anybody with cap room for a bag of chips. Even i being not a beasley fan said at the time that was a steal becasue there really is no risk. 2 second rounders? And no body could come up with a better deal for miami?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:02pm #439289
llperezi agree with 3. He is wuithout question better then i have given him creidt for in the past. But we are still talking about a guy whos greatest weapon is scoring and is putting up numbers on a sub par team.
As for 4, no the owners are stupid. Beasely was being given away to anybody with cap room for a bag of chips. Even i being not a beasley fan said at the time that was a steal becasue there really is no risk. 2 second rounders? And no body could come up with a better deal for miami?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:39pm #439309
mattholdenbrownParticipantthe spurs are championship calliber?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:39pm #439328
mattholdenbrownParticipantthe spurs are championship calliber?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:39pm #439335
mattholdenbrownParticipantthe spurs are championship calliber?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:49pm #439326
stanford hoopsWhich means we need to quit with all the talk about
Tyreke Evans
Cousins
Blake griffin
Eric gordan
John wall
Untill they start winning because they are all doing it on a bad teamYea I think I can agree with that
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:49pm #439346
stanford hoopsWhich means we need to quit with all the talk about
Tyreke Evans
Cousins
Blake griffin
Eric gordan
John wall
Untill they start winning because they are all doing it on a bad teamYea I think I can agree with that
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:49pm #439353
stanford hoopsWhich means we need to quit with all the talk about
Tyreke Evans
Cousins
Blake griffin
Eric gordan
John wall
Untill they start winning because they are all doing it on a bad teamYea I think I can agree with that
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:52pm #439329
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantHere we go with stanford hoops being a troll.
All Eric Gordon and Michael Beasley do is score.
Tyreke is a good passer and good rebounder for a guard.
Cousins is a presence down low and is a good rebounder.
Griffin is a good rebounder, hustle player, blocks shots
Wall can pass and play very good defense, get steals and rebound.
Now what can Beasley and Gordon do effectively aside from scoring?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:52pm #439349
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantHere we go with stanford hoops being a troll.
All Eric Gordon and Michael Beasley do is score.
Tyreke is a good passer and good rebounder for a guard.
Cousins is a presence down low and is a good rebounder.
Griffin is a good rebounder, hustle player, blocks shots
Wall can pass and play very good defense, get steals and rebound.
Now what can Beasley and Gordon do effectively aside from scoring?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:52pm #439356
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantHere we go with stanford hoops being a troll.
All Eric Gordon and Michael Beasley do is score.
Tyreke is a good passer and good rebounder for a guard.
Cousins is a presence down low and is a good rebounder.
Griffin is a good rebounder, hustle player, blocks shots
Wall can pass and play very good defense, get steals and rebound.
Now what can Beasley and Gordon do effectively aside from scoring?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:54pm #439332
stanford hoopsFor got to add hibbert. And brook lopez
And holiday can’t compare to Jennings because holiday is doing it on a bad team while Jennings does it on a playoff team
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:54pm #439352
stanford hoopsFor got to add hibbert. And brook lopez
And holiday can’t compare to Jennings because holiday is doing it on a bad team while Jennings does it on a playoff team
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:54pm #439359
stanford hoopsFor got to add hibbert. And brook lopez
And holiday can’t compare to Jennings because holiday is doing it on a bad team while Jennings does it on a playoff team
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:55pm #439338
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantExactly, don’t answer my question.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:55pm #439358
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantExactly, don’t answer my question.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:55pm #439367
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantExactly, don’t answer my question.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:58pm #439341
stanford hoopsWow name calling. Ok
Anyway. None of that matters if you’re team still doesn’t win. They can pass and rebound all they want but if it doesn’t equal wins what good is it doing other than padding stats on a bad team?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:58pm #439361
stanford hoopsWow name calling. Ok
Anyway. None of that matters if you’re team still doesn’t win. They can pass and rebound all they want but if it doesn’t equal wins what good is it doing other than padding stats on a bad team?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:58pm #439370
stanford hoopsWow name calling. Ok
Anyway. None of that matters if you’re team still doesn’t win. They can pass and rebound all they want but if it doesn’t equal wins what good is it doing other than padding stats on a bad team?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:59pm #439351
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantLol, answer my question… What can Beasley do aside from scoring?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:59pm #439369
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantLol, answer my question… What can Beasley do aside from scoring?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 12:59pm #439377
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantLol, answer my question… What can Beasley do aside from scoring?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:01pm #439357
stanford hoopsIf someone averaged a triple double for the clippers yet the team still never makes the playoffs what do those stats mean in the grand scheme of things? Tmac used to kill but what do people remeber about him? Couldn’t get out of the first. Round. Now imagin if he could never even get to the playoffs
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:01pm #439376
stanford hoopsIf someone averaged a triple double for the clippers yet the team still never makes the playoffs what do those stats mean in the grand scheme of things? Tmac used to kill but what do people remeber about him? Couldn’t get out of the first. Round. Now imagin if he could never even get to the playoffs
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:01pm #439383
stanford hoopsIf someone averaged a triple double for the clippers yet the team still never makes the playoffs what do those stats mean in the grand scheme of things? Tmac used to kill but what do people remeber about him? Couldn’t get out of the first. Round. Now imagin if he could never even get to the playoffs
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:03pm #439360
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantYou not wanting to answer my simple question shows me that I got you cornered and you know I have a point, that’s the reason you continue your sarcasm. Poor child. I’m done talking ball with you.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:03pm #439379
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantYou not wanting to answer my simple question shows me that I got you cornered and you know I have a point, that’s the reason you continue your sarcasm. Poor child. I’m done talking ball with you.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:03pm #439386
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantYou not wanting to answer my simple question shows me that I got you cornered and you know I have a point, that’s the reason you continue your sarcasm. Poor child. I’m done talking ball with you.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:07pm #439368
stanford hoopsBeasleys role is to score. And he averages 5rebounds per game ( one less then durant ). He’s doing what his role is. So he’s less of a player because he scores and is 12th at the small forward position in rebounding? What exactly do you think a small forward is suppossed to do exactly? There’s only one lebron. And not many Gerald wallaces. Most small forwards don’t get alot of assist or rebounds or lock down on defense so what do u expect out of beasley? He’s at or close to average in just about all small forward non scoring stats and one of the leaders in scoring at his position. You want him to be lebron? That’s not him.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:07pm #439388
stanford hoopsBeasleys role is to score. And he averages 5rebounds per game ( one less then durant ). He’s doing what his role is. So he’s less of a player because he scores and is 12th at the small forward position in rebounding? What exactly do you think a small forward is suppossed to do exactly? There’s only one lebron. And not many Gerald wallaces. Most small forwards don’t get alot of assist or rebounds or lock down on defense so what do u expect out of beasley? He’s at or close to average in just about all small forward non scoring stats and one of the leaders in scoring at his position. You want him to be lebron? That’s not him.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:07pm #439395
stanford hoopsBeasleys role is to score. And he averages 5rebounds per game ( one less then durant ). He’s doing what his role is. So he’s less of a player because he scores and is 12th at the small forward position in rebounding? What exactly do you think a small forward is suppossed to do exactly? There’s only one lebron. And not many Gerald wallaces. Most small forwards don’t get alot of assist or rebounds or lock down on defense so what do u expect out of beasley? He’s at or close to average in just about all small forward non scoring stats and one of the leaders in scoring at his position. You want him to be lebron? That’s not him.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:09pm #439374
stanford hoopsNow I’m a poor child. How old are you? You resort to name calling because someone doesn’t do what u want? Really. If it makes you feel better continue with the name calling or leave and I’ll continue to have a adult debate with the other mature users on this site
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:09pm #439394
stanford hoopsNow I’m a poor child. How old are you? You resort to name calling because someone doesn’t do what u want? Really. If it makes you feel better continue with the name calling or leave and I’ll continue to have a adult debate with the other mature users on this site
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:09pm #439401
stanford hoopsNow I’m a poor child. How old are you? You resort to name calling because someone doesn’t do what u want? Really. If it makes you feel better continue with the name calling or leave and I’ll continue to have a adult debate with the other mature users on this site
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:11pm #439378
ajk004ParticipantHe rebounds above average for a SF and plays "ok" D. He’s not Melo, but I do think that’s his ceiling. Not saying he will ever get there, but at 21 and given a long leash this kid is showing he has game. If he ends the year at 20 ppg 5 boards and 4 TO a game I think that’s something. Not like he’s the second coming, but he’s a legit former #2 pick still on his rookie contract. Is he an all-star right now? I don’t really think so, but he could be a multi-year all-star if he stays healthy and continues to score well for the next 5-10 years. I think what we are seeing is a nice bump in actual production that lets us revist the potential issue.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:11pm #439397
ajk004ParticipantHe rebounds above average for a SF and plays "ok" D. He’s not Melo, but I do think that’s his ceiling. Not saying he will ever get there, but at 21 and given a long leash this kid is showing he has game. If he ends the year at 20 ppg 5 boards and 4 TO a game I think that’s something. Not like he’s the second coming, but he’s a legit former #2 pick still on his rookie contract. Is he an all-star right now? I don’t really think so, but he could be a multi-year all-star if he stays healthy and continues to score well for the next 5-10 years. I think what we are seeing is a nice bump in actual production that lets us revist the potential issue.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:11pm #439404
ajk004ParticipantHe rebounds above average for a SF and plays "ok" D. He’s not Melo, but I do think that’s his ceiling. Not saying he will ever get there, but at 21 and given a long leash this kid is showing he has game. If he ends the year at 20 ppg 5 boards and 4 TO a game I think that’s something. Not like he’s the second coming, but he’s a legit former #2 pick still on his rookie contract. Is he an all-star right now? I don’t really think so, but he could be a multi-year all-star if he stays healthy and continues to score well for the next 5-10 years. I think what we are seeing is a nice bump in actual production that lets us revist the potential issue.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:13pm #439381
immaletufinishbutParticipantI would say that beasley is a very good player and he does have the potential to be an all star in the future. Dont forget the "experts" were predicting him to be better than durant, I just think he was a very bad fit in miami. He needs to dominate the ball to be productive and he was not going to get that opportunity playing with wade who is a top 3 player. I can see beasley giving you 20, 5 and 2 for a couple years because he has the talent, but the pieces have to fall the correct way for him to really be beneficial to your team. And when Flynn comes back either beasley’s assist or his ppg will rise because of the attention Flynn will command.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:13pm #439400
immaletufinishbutParticipantI would say that beasley is a very good player and he does have the potential to be an all star in the future. Dont forget the "experts" were predicting him to be better than durant, I just think he was a very bad fit in miami. He needs to dominate the ball to be productive and he was not going to get that opportunity playing with wade who is a top 3 player. I can see beasley giving you 20, 5 and 2 for a couple years because he has the talent, but the pieces have to fall the correct way for him to really be beneficial to your team. And when Flynn comes back either beasley’s assist or his ppg will rise because of the attention Flynn will command.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:13pm #439407
immaletufinishbutParticipantI would say that beasley is a very good player and he does have the potential to be an all star in the future. Dont forget the "experts" were predicting him to be better than durant, I just think he was a very bad fit in miami. He needs to dominate the ball to be productive and he was not going to get that opportunity playing with wade who is a top 3 player. I can see beasley giving you 20, 5 and 2 for a couple years because he has the talent, but the pieces have to fall the correct way for him to really be beneficial to your team. And when Flynn comes back either beasley’s assist or his ppg will rise because of the attention Flynn will command.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:15pm #439384
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantHmm… So now you’re finally telling me more, you just told me all Beasley can do is score. Thank you for pointing out he can’t defend either forward position, thank you for pointing out that he’s not a good rebounder, thank you for pointing out that he’s not a leader. Like I said, all Beasley can do is score and you proved me right.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:15pm #439403
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantHmm… So now you’re finally telling me more, you just told me all Beasley can do is score. Thank you for pointing out he can’t defend either forward position, thank you for pointing out that he’s not a good rebounder, thank you for pointing out that he’s not a leader. Like I said, all Beasley can do is score and you proved me right.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:15pm #439410
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantHmm… So now you’re finally telling me more, you just told me all Beasley can do is score. Thank you for pointing out he can’t defend either forward position, thank you for pointing out that he’s not a good rebounder, thank you for pointing out that he’s not a leader. Like I said, all Beasley can do is score and you proved me right.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:16pm #439387
stanford hoopsI also forgot to add that Micheal beasley is ranked number 6 in pts/rebounds/assist catagory out of all the NBA small forwards. Right behind gerald Wallace and right ahead of Paul Peirce
Out of all small forwards and power forwards he’s ranked 15. Ahead of Blake griffin
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:16pm #439406
stanford hoopsI also forgot to add that Micheal beasley is ranked number 6 in pts/rebounds/assist catagory out of all the NBA small forwards. Right behind gerald Wallace and right ahead of Paul Peirce
Out of all small forwards and power forwards he’s ranked 15. Ahead of Blake griffin
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:16pm #439413
stanford hoopsI also forgot to add that Micheal beasley is ranked number 6 in pts/rebounds/assist catagory out of all the NBA small forwards. Right behind gerald Wallace and right ahead of Paul Peirce
Out of all small forwards and power forwards he’s ranked 15. Ahead of Blake griffin
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:18pm #439390
stanford hoopsOh and he’s only giving up 14ppg on the defensive end on the small forwards he guards
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:18pm #439409
stanford hoopsOh and he’s only giving up 14ppg on the defensive end on the small forwards he guards
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:18pm #439416
stanford hoopsOh and he’s only giving up 14ppg on the defensive end on the small forwards he guards
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:19pm #439393
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantThat stat is blown up because he scores 22 a game and other small forwards score about 16, don’t even try to bring up that stat.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:19pm #439412
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantThat stat is blown up because he scores 22 a game and other small forwards score about 16, don’t even try to bring up that stat.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:19pm #439419
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantThat stat is blown up because he scores 22 a game and other small forwards score about 16, don’t even try to bring up that stat.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:19pm #439396
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantWhere did you come up with that 14ppg stat?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:19pm #439415
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantWhere did you come up with that 14ppg stat?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:19pm #439422
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantWhere did you come up with that 14ppg stat?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:23pm #439399
stanford hoopsOut of all players he’s ranked 33rd.
Ahead of steph curry
Joe Johnson
Lamarcus aldrige
Kevin Garnett
Brandon Jennings
Al Jefferson0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:23pm #439418
stanford hoopsOut of all players he’s ranked 33rd.
Ahead of steph curry
Joe Johnson
Lamarcus aldrige
Kevin Garnett
Brandon Jennings
Al Jefferson0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:23pm #439425
stanford hoopsOut of all players he’s ranked 33rd.
Ahead of steph curry
Joe Johnson
Lamarcus aldrige
Kevin Garnett
Brandon Jennings
Al Jefferson0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:23pm #439402
ajk004ParticipantYou must not be following Minny at all — Beasley is THE leader in Minny right now. One game when KLove was dogging it Beasley ran to the bench and told Rambis to bench Love and that he didn’t want to see him on the court again until he was ready to play. Kevin sat and came back after after an extended rest having gotten the message. KLove played night and day better. Beasley wasn’t a leader in Miami as a rookie or second year man on Wade’s team, but he is THE leader of the young Minny team
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:23pm #439421
ajk004ParticipantYou must not be following Minny at all — Beasley is THE leader in Minny right now. One game when KLove was dogging it Beasley ran to the bench and told Rambis to bench Love and that he didn’t want to see him on the court again until he was ready to play. Kevin sat and came back after after an extended rest having gotten the message. KLove played night and day better. Beasley wasn’t a leader in Miami as a rookie or second year man on Wade’s team, but he is THE leader of the young Minny team
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:23pm #439428
ajk004ParticipantYou must not be following Minny at all — Beasley is THE leader in Minny right now. One game when KLove was dogging it Beasley ran to the bench and told Rambis to bench Love and that he didn’t want to see him on the court again until he was ready to play. Kevin sat and came back after after an extended rest having gotten the message. KLove played night and day better. Beasley wasn’t a leader in Miami as a rookie or second year man on Wade’s team, but he is THE leader of the young Minny team
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:28pm #439411
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantAgain, that stat is blown up because his scoring.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:28pm #439430
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantAgain, that stat is blown up because his scoring.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:28pm #439437
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantAgain, that stat is blown up because his scoring.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:28pm #439414
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantBeas is also leading the return of Spree’s pippi longstocking hairstyle, which is more impressive than leading a bad team. Why does that only happen in Minnesota?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:28pm #439433
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantBeas is also leading the return of Spree’s pippi longstocking hairstyle, which is more impressive than leading a bad team. Why does that only happen in Minnesota?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:28pm #439440
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipantBeas is also leading the return of Spree’s pippi longstocking hairstyle, which is more impressive than leading a bad team. Why does that only happen in Minnesota?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:28pm #439417
stanford hoopsFrom looking at all the players he has guarded this year, watch the games, check game logs that show when the player has made a shot. Add up the points and divide. And that’s the average. I didn’t post back ups. If I did the ppg he’s giving up is around 11.
If you wanna check for you’re self watch the games, use espn stats and or NBA.com. Does that answer you’re question
So that leaves beasley with a plus 8 or 9 in comparision to guys who he has had to guard
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:28pm #439436
stanford hoopsFrom looking at all the players he has guarded this year, watch the games, check game logs that show when the player has made a shot. Add up the points and divide. And that’s the average. I didn’t post back ups. If I did the ppg he’s giving up is around 11.
If you wanna check for you’re self watch the games, use espn stats and or NBA.com. Does that answer you’re question
So that leaves beasley with a plus 8 or 9 in comparision to guys who he has had to guard
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:28pm #439443
stanford hoopsFrom looking at all the players he has guarded this year, watch the games, check game logs that show when the player has made a shot. Add up the points and divide. And that’s the average. I didn’t post back ups. If I did the ppg he’s giving up is around 11.
If you wanna check for you’re self watch the games, use espn stats and or NBA.com. Does that answer you’re question
So that leaves beasley with a plus 8 or 9 in comparision to guys who he has had to guard
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:31pm #439420
NbanflguyParticipantI think Beasley might have been disinterested in Miami. Here in Minny he has become the vocal leader of this team. He is played fired up defense and giving it 100%. Some people might still be thinking he is a PF when he is played primary SF for this team. His REB stats are above average for a SF. He is scoring, providing leadership, trying 100% and playing very ok defense and doing a solid job of rebounding. What more do you want?
He is simply not the same player he was in Miami
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:31pm #439439
NbanflguyParticipantI think Beasley might have been disinterested in Miami. Here in Minny he has become the vocal leader of this team. He is played fired up defense and giving it 100%. Some people might still be thinking he is a PF when he is played primary SF for this team. His REB stats are above average for a SF. He is scoring, providing leadership, trying 100% and playing very ok defense and doing a solid job of rebounding. What more do you want?
He is simply not the same player he was in Miami
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:31pm #439446
NbanflguyParticipantI think Beasley might have been disinterested in Miami. Here in Minny he has become the vocal leader of this team. He is played fired up defense and giving it 100%. Some people might still be thinking he is a PF when he is played primary SF for this team. His REB stats are above average for a SF. He is scoring, providing leadership, trying 100% and playing very ok defense and doing a solid job of rebounding. What more do you want?
He is simply not the same player he was in Miami
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:31pm #439423
stanford hoopsSee I have this problem. I tend to see things for myself and do research instead of just listening to someone when they say someone is a bad or good shooter,scorer,defender,
Passer etcLike last year when people said zach is a horrble defender yet he only gave up 16ppg on average to other starting power forwards
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:31pm #439442
stanford hoopsSee I have this problem. I tend to see things for myself and do research instead of just listening to someone when they say someone is a bad or good shooter,scorer,defender,
Passer etcLike last year when people said zach is a horrble defender yet he only gave up 16ppg on average to other starting power forwards
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:31pm #439449
stanford hoopsSee I have this problem. I tend to see things for myself and do research instead of just listening to someone when they say someone is a bad or good shooter,scorer,defender,
Passer etcLike last year when people said zach is a horrble defender yet he only gave up 16ppg on average to other starting power forwards
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:34pm #439426
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantWell, that’s not the most effective way to check their opponents scoring average because they could have switched on different possesions and he most likely didn’t play small forward the entire game.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:34pm #439445
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantWell, that’s not the most effective way to check their opponents scoring average because they could have switched on different possesions and he most likely didn’t play small forward the entire game.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:34pm #439452
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantWell, that’s not the most effective way to check their opponents scoring average because they could have switched on different possesions and he most likely didn’t play small forward the entire game.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:34pm #439429
andxxxParticipantBeasley has improved, but I wonder what he’d do on a championship team? He seems to need the ball in his hands and if he doesn’t have the ball he’s ineffective,
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:34pm #439448
andxxxParticipantBeasley has improved, but I wonder what he’d do on a championship team? He seems to need the ball in his hands and if he doesn’t have the ball he’s ineffective,
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:34pm #439455
andxxxParticipantBeasley has improved, but I wonder what he’d do on a championship team? He seems to need the ball in his hands and if he doesn’t have the ball he’s ineffective,
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:37pm #439435
stanford hoopsSo in conclussion beasley is
Ranked 6th out of 32 starting small forwards in pts/reb/ast
15th out of 64 starting sf and pf in pts/reb/ast
33rd out of around 346 starting players in pts/reb/ast
And gives up 14ppg to starting sf
IMO that’s not bad. Not bad at all
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:37pm #439454
stanford hoopsSo in conclussion beasley is
Ranked 6th out of 32 starting small forwards in pts/reb/ast
15th out of 64 starting sf and pf in pts/reb/ast
33rd out of around 346 starting players in pts/reb/ast
And gives up 14ppg to starting sf
IMO that’s not bad. Not bad at all
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:37pm #439461
stanford hoopsSo in conclussion beasley is
Ranked 6th out of 32 starting small forwards in pts/reb/ast
15th out of 64 starting sf and pf in pts/reb/ast
33rd out of around 346 starting players in pts/reb/ast
And gives up 14ppg to starting sf
IMO that’s not bad. Not bad at all
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:40pm #439444
stanford hoopsWhich is why I also watched every game (except the Miami game). I actually short changed beasley because I included points his players have scored off of picks ( 5.3ppg)
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:40pm #439464
stanford hoopsWhich is why I also watched every game (except the Miami game). I actually short changed beasley because I included points his players have scored off of picks ( 5.3ppg)
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:40pm #439470
stanford hoopsWhich is why I also watched every game (except the Miami game). I actually short changed beasley because I included points his players have scored off of picks ( 5.3ppg)
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:41pm #439447
Tongue-Out-Like-23Participantp/r/a is blown up because of his scoring.. smh…
he’s giving up 14ppg but… youre not counting when people they have switches on defense or when he’s actually playing power forward, so those stats mean nothing to me.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:41pm #439467
Tongue-Out-Like-23Participantp/r/a is blown up because of his scoring.. smh…
he’s giving up 14ppg but… youre not counting when people they have switches on defense or when he’s actually playing power forward, so those stats mean nothing to me.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:41pm #439473
Tongue-Out-Like-23Participantp/r/a is blown up because of his scoring.. smh…
he’s giving up 14ppg but… youre not counting when people they have switches on defense or when he’s actually playing power forward, so those stats mean nothing to me.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:42pm #439450
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantAnd you watching every game is the biggest lie.. Why would a Cali kid watch every Minnesota game?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:42pm #439469
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantAnd you watching every game is the biggest lie.. Why would a Cali kid watch every Minnesota game?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:42pm #439476
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantAnd you watching every game is the biggest lie.. Why would a Cali kid watch every Minnesota game?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:45pm #439456
abriggs06ParticipantIm with you with the assessment of Mike Beasley. Ppl are going crazy. But I disagree with your opinion on Eric Gordon. I believe if you put him on a contender, hed still be doing his thing. And aside from scoring, Eric is a strong defender. Hes not on top with the other NBA elite, but he deserves the love hes getting. One day he will be an All Star, and it wont just be for his scoring. But Mike Beasley, Im still not sold on him.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:45pm #439475
abriggs06ParticipantIm with you with the assessment of Mike Beasley. Ppl are going crazy. But I disagree with your opinion on Eric Gordon. I believe if you put him on a contender, hed still be doing his thing. And aside from scoring, Eric is a strong defender. Hes not on top with the other NBA elite, but he deserves the love hes getting. One day he will be an All Star, and it wont just be for his scoring. But Mike Beasley, Im still not sold on him.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:45pm #439482
abriggs06ParticipantIm with you with the assessment of Mike Beasley. Ppl are going crazy. But I disagree with your opinion on Eric Gordon. I believe if you put him on a contender, hed still be doing his thing. And aside from scoring, Eric is a strong defender. Hes not on top with the other NBA elite, but he deserves the love hes getting. One day he will be an All Star, and it wont just be for his scoring. But Mike Beasley, Im still not sold on him.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:47pm #439462
stanford hoopsAs far as being efficiant. Beasley is ranked 7th out of all the small forwards and 24th out of every forward (sf and pf) in the NBA
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:47pm #439481
stanford hoopsAs far as being efficiant. Beasley is ranked 7th out of all the small forwards and 24th out of every forward (sf and pf) in the NBA
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:47pm #439488
stanford hoopsAs far as being efficiant. Beasley is ranked 7th out of all the small forwards and 24th out of every forward (sf and pf) in the NBA
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:49pm #439465
andxxxParticipantstanfordhoops isnt a little early to bring up efficiency stats, sure Beasley is into it right now, but I want to see what happens a few more games into the season and the losses start piling up
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:49pm #439484
andxxxParticipantstanfordhoops isnt a little early to bring up efficiency stats, sure Beasley is into it right now, but I want to see what happens a few more games into the season and the losses start piling up
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:49pm #439491
andxxxParticipantstanfordhoops isnt a little early to bring up efficiency stats, sure Beasley is into it right now, but I want to see what happens a few more games into the season and the losses start piling up
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:50pm #439468
NbanflguyParticipantThe thing is Staford hoops is actually using real stats to argue his point, while you use that argument that there is no way he watches timberwolves game cuz he is in cali
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:50pm #439487
NbanflguyParticipantThe thing is Staford hoops is actually using real stats to argue his point, while you use that argument that there is no way he watches timberwolves game cuz he is in cali
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:50pm #439494
NbanflguyParticipantThe thing is Staford hoops is actually using real stats to argue his point, while you use that argument that there is no way he watches timberwolves game cuz he is in cali
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:52pm #439474
Tongue-Out-Like-23Participantandxxx, that’s exactly what I’m saying, it’s too soon.
nbanflguy, everybody knows that stats lie, if you want to see the rest of my argument, scroll up.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:52pm #439493
Tongue-Out-Like-23Participantandxxx, that’s exactly what I’m saying, it’s too soon.
nbanflguy, everybody knows that stats lie, if you want to see the rest of my argument, scroll up.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:52pm #439500
Tongue-Out-Like-23Participantandxxx, that’s exactly what I’m saying, it’s too soon.
nbanflguy, everybody knows that stats lie, if you want to see the rest of my argument, scroll up.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:53pm #439477
abriggs06ParticipantYea its waaaaaaaay too early to look at the stats. Mike Beasleys biggest issues are focus and consistency. Lets get at least half way through the season and then MAYBE we can think about Michael Beasley being something serious.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:53pm #439496
abriggs06ParticipantYea its waaaaaaaay too early to look at the stats. Mike Beasleys biggest issues are focus and consistency. Lets get at least half way through the season and then MAYBE we can think about Michael Beasley being something serious.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:53pm #439503
abriggs06ParticipantYea its waaaaaaaay too early to look at the stats. Mike Beasleys biggest issues are focus and consistency. Lets get at least half way through the season and then MAYBE we can think about Michael Beasley being something serious.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:54pm #439480
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantThere we go, now we have people who understand. It’s the first 13 games..
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:54pm #439499
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantThere we go, now we have people who understand. It’s the first 13 games..
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:54pm #439506
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantThere we go, now we have people who understand. It’s the first 13 games..
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:54pm #439483
stanford hoopsIf I added pf it would be even lower( doesn’t spend alot of time playing pf).
And I’m from dc. I watch all of beasley games because he was also brought up in the dc assualt aau program I was brought up in and I’ve been watching him since his freshman year in hs (same high school coach Lou Wilson)
So the real question is what are you basing beasleys defense on? I’ve actually watched his games and did my research and also invited anyone to check the games and game log and stats to make sure I’m not lying. It’s clear you are basing you’re opinion on either a dislike of him or from what you heard somewhere. Next time you wanna debate about something please do you’re research because when you don’t you’re just a loud wrong person that doesn’t know alot about what you claim to have knowledge on
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:54pm #439502
stanford hoopsIf I added pf it would be even lower( doesn’t spend alot of time playing pf).
And I’m from dc. I watch all of beasley games because he was also brought up in the dc assualt aau program I was brought up in and I’ve been watching him since his freshman year in hs (same high school coach Lou Wilson)
So the real question is what are you basing beasleys defense on? I’ve actually watched his games and did my research and also invited anyone to check the games and game log and stats to make sure I’m not lying. It’s clear you are basing you’re opinion on either a dislike of him or from what you heard somewhere. Next time you wanna debate about something please do you’re research because when you don’t you’re just a loud wrong person that doesn’t know alot about what you claim to have knowledge on
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:54pm #439509
stanford hoopsIf I added pf it would be even lower( doesn’t spend alot of time playing pf).
And I’m from dc. I watch all of beasley games because he was also brought up in the dc assualt aau program I was brought up in and I’ve been watching him since his freshman year in hs (same high school coach Lou Wilson)
So the real question is what are you basing beasleys defense on? I’ve actually watched his games and did my research and also invited anyone to check the games and game log and stats to make sure I’m not lying. It’s clear you are basing you’re opinion on either a dislike of him or from what you heard somewhere. Next time you wanna debate about something please do you’re research because when you don’t you’re just a loud wrong person that doesn’t know alot about what you claim to have knowledge on
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:59pm #439489
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantWant me to pull up some stats that show Beasley isn’t as good? Okay, here I go.
Blocks per game: 0.6
Steals per game: 0.9
Turnovers: 3
FT%: 68%
Beasley picks up 8% of his team rebounds. and is responsible for 13% of their turnovers.
And here we go with the MAIN defensive and offensive stat.
Offensive rating, in 100 possessions, he would score 106pts
Defensive rating, in 100 possessions, he gives up 112pts
Defensive rating is the best stat for show his defense.. He gives up more than he scores. Checkmate.
I can get stats too.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:59pm #439508
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantWant me to pull up some stats that show Beasley isn’t as good? Okay, here I go.
Blocks per game: 0.6
Steals per game: 0.9
Turnovers: 3
FT%: 68%
Beasley picks up 8% of his team rebounds. and is responsible for 13% of their turnovers.
And here we go with the MAIN defensive and offensive stat.
Offensive rating, in 100 possessions, he would score 106pts
Defensive rating, in 100 possessions, he gives up 112pts
Defensive rating is the best stat for show his defense.. He gives up more than he scores. Checkmate.
I can get stats too.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 1:59pm #439515
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantWant me to pull up some stats that show Beasley isn’t as good? Okay, here I go.
Blocks per game: 0.6
Steals per game: 0.9
Turnovers: 3
FT%: 68%
Beasley picks up 8% of his team rebounds. and is responsible for 13% of their turnovers.
And here we go with the MAIN defensive and offensive stat.
Offensive rating, in 100 possessions, he would score 106pts
Defensive rating, in 100 possessions, he gives up 112pts
Defensive rating is the best stat for show his defense.. He gives up more than he scores. Checkmate.
I can get stats too.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:02pm #439495
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantMore stats? He’s 6th in field goals attempted but he’s 15th in scoring. Hmm something seems wrong there.
Oh, let’s review his off/def rating again
Offensive rating, in 100 possessions, he would score 106pts
Defensive rating, in 100 possessions, he gives up 112pts
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:02pm #439514
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantMore stats? He’s 6th in field goals attempted but he’s 15th in scoring. Hmm something seems wrong there.
Oh, let’s review his off/def rating again
Offensive rating, in 100 possessions, he would score 106pts
Defensive rating, in 100 possessions, he gives up 112pts
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:02pm #439521
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantMore stats? He’s 6th in field goals attempted but he’s 15th in scoring. Hmm something seems wrong there.
Oh, let’s review his off/def rating again
Offensive rating, in 100 possessions, he would score 106pts
Defensive rating, in 100 possessions, he gives up 112pts
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:03pm #439498
abriggs06Participantstanfordhoops, how could you watch mike beasley play and actually say hes playin GOOD defense? you can break out a few numbers, but from what ive seen, thats not good defense……
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:03pm #439517
abriggs06Participantstanfordhoops, how could you watch mike beasley play and actually say hes playin GOOD defense? you can break out a few numbers, but from what ive seen, thats not good defense……
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:03pm #439524
abriggs06Participantstanfordhoops, how could you watch mike beasley play and actually say hes playin GOOD defense? you can break out a few numbers, but from what ive seen, thats not good defense……
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:03pm #439501
NbanflguyParticipantBut wait, dont stats lie? and isnt it a little early to bring up those stats? only 13 games in
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:03pm #439520
NbanflguyParticipantBut wait, dont stats lie? and isnt it a little early to bring up those stats? only 13 games in
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:03pm #439527
NbanflguyParticipantBut wait, dont stats lie? and isnt it a little early to bring up those stats? only 13 games in
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:03pm #439504
stanford hoopsWhich brings me to another point. If it’s too early to say beasley isn’t that good and can’t do this or that. Isn’t it fair for someone to make a point on what he is doing in only 13 games since that is what people who don’t think he’s not that good, are basing there opinion on? 13 games right
Some say he’s not that good because the wolves are losing. And that’s based on……13 games. So if someone can argue about what beasley isn’t doing in 13 games that opens the door to say what he is doing right?
Some way says all he can do is score is based off of 13 games so doesn’t it make sense that someone can say how efficant he has been in 13 games or is it that the 13 games can only be used to say what beasley hasn’t or can’t do?
Another thing is who has gone over board about beasley? In every post I’ve read those who give beasley praise have said
He’s gotten better
He works harder
Given a chance
All star potential
Looks like a leaderSo where is the “gone crazy” or going over board part?
Maybe i missed the “gone crazy part” so can one of y’all please show me were someone has gone crazy or over board?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:03pm #439522
stanford hoopsWhich brings me to another point. If it’s too early to say beasley isn’t that good and can’t do this or that. Isn’t it fair for someone to make a point on what he is doing in only 13 games since that is what people who don’t think he’s not that good, are basing there opinion on? 13 games right
Some say he’s not that good because the wolves are losing. And that’s based on……13 games. So if someone can argue about what beasley isn’t doing in 13 games that opens the door to say what he is doing right?
Some way says all he can do is score is based off of 13 games so doesn’t it make sense that someone can say how efficant he has been in 13 games or is it that the 13 games can only be used to say what beasley hasn’t or can’t do?
Another thing is who has gone over board about beasley? In every post I’ve read those who give beasley praise have said
He’s gotten better
He works harder
Given a chance
All star potential
Looks like a leaderSo where is the “gone crazy” or going over board part?
Maybe i missed the “gone crazy part” so can one of y’all please show me were someone has gone crazy or over board?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:03pm #439530
stanford hoopsWhich brings me to another point. If it’s too early to say beasley isn’t that good and can’t do this or that. Isn’t it fair for someone to make a point on what he is doing in only 13 games since that is what people who don’t think he’s not that good, are basing there opinion on? 13 games right
Some say he’s not that good because the wolves are losing. And that’s based on……13 games. So if someone can argue about what beasley isn’t doing in 13 games that opens the door to say what he is doing right?
Some way says all he can do is score is based off of 13 games so doesn’t it make sense that someone can say how efficant he has been in 13 games or is it that the 13 games can only be used to say what beasley hasn’t or can’t do?
Another thing is who has gone over board about beasley? In every post I’ve read those who give beasley praise have said
He’s gotten better
He works harder
Given a chance
All star potential
Looks like a leaderSo where is the “gone crazy” or going over board part?
Maybe i missed the “gone crazy part” so can one of y’all please show me were someone has gone crazy or over board?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:03pm #439507
Tongue-Out-Like-23Participanthe called me out to bring in stats, there they are.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:03pm #439525
Tongue-Out-Like-23Participanthe called me out to bring in stats, there they are.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:03pm #439533
Tongue-Out-Like-23Participanthe called me out to bring in stats, there they are.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:05pm #439510
Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant"Which brings me to another point. If it’s too early to say beasley isn’t that good and can’t do this or that. Isn’t it fair for someone to make a point on what he is doing in only 13 games since that is what people who don’t think he’s not that good, are basing there opinion on? 13 games right"
No, people who say he isn’t that good aren’t talking about these 13 games, we’re talking about his 171 total games that we’ve seen him.
By the way, let’s review his off/def ratings again.
Offensive rating, in 100 possessions, he would score 106pts
Defensive rating, in 100 possessions, he gives up 112pts
Hmm, I can see you are now contradicting yourself and saying it’s too soon, are you turning around on all your stats and thoughts already? Hmm, that was quick.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:05pm #439528
Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant"Which brings me to another point. If it’s too early to say beasley isn’t that good and can’t do this or that. Isn’t it fair for someone to make a point on what he is doing in only 13 games since that is what people who don’t think he’s not that good, are basing there opinion on? 13 games right"
No, people who say he isn’t that good aren’t talking about these 13 games, we’re talking about his 171 total games that we’ve seen him.
By the way, let’s review his off/def ratings again.
Offensive rating, in 100 possessions, he would score 106pts
Defensive rating, in 100 possessions, he gives up 112pts
Hmm, I can see you are now contradicting yourself and saying it’s too soon, are you turning around on all your stats and thoughts already? Hmm, that was quick.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:05pm #439537
Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant"Which brings me to another point. If it’s too early to say beasley isn’t that good and can’t do this or that. Isn’t it fair for someone to make a point on what he is doing in only 13 games since that is what people who don’t think he’s not that good, are basing there opinion on? 13 games right"
No, people who say he isn’t that good aren’t talking about these 13 games, we’re talking about his 171 total games that we’ve seen him.
By the way, let’s review his off/def ratings again.
Offensive rating, in 100 possessions, he would score 106pts
Defensive rating, in 100 possessions, he gives up 112pts
Hmm, I can see you are now contradicting yourself and saying it’s too soon, are you turning around on all your stats and thoughts already? Hmm, that was quick.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:09pm #439516
stanford hoopsRanked 6th in blocks for all starting small forwards
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:09pm #439534
stanford hoopsRanked 6th in blocks for all starting small forwards
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:09pm #439543
stanford hoopsRanked 6th in blocks for all starting small forwards
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:10pm #439519
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantOffensive rating, in 100 possessions, he would score 106pts
Defensive rating, in 100 possessions, he gives up 112pts
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:10pm #439536
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantOffensive rating, in 100 possessions, he would score 106pts
Defensive rating, in 100 possessions, he gives up 112pts
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:10pm #439547
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantOffensive rating, in 100 possessions, he would score 106pts
Defensive rating, in 100 possessions, he gives up 112pts
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:10pm #439523
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantWhere’s his defense that you said he played?
Offensive rating, in 100 possessions, he would score 106pts
Defensive rating, in 100 possessions, he gives up 112pts
No doubt in my mind he can score, everybody knows that.
Offensive rating, in 100 possessions, he would score 106pts
Defensive rating, in 100 possessions, he gives up 112pts
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:10pm #439539
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantWhere’s his defense that you said he played?
Offensive rating, in 100 possessions, he would score 106pts
Defensive rating, in 100 possessions, he gives up 112pts
No doubt in my mind he can score, everybody knows that.
Offensive rating, in 100 possessions, he would score 106pts
Defensive rating, in 100 possessions, he gives up 112pts
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:10pm #439550
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantWhere’s his defense that you said he played?
Offensive rating, in 100 possessions, he would score 106pts
Defensive rating, in 100 possessions, he gives up 112pts
No doubt in my mind he can score, everybody knows that.
Offensive rating, in 100 possessions, he would score 106pts
Defensive rating, in 100 possessions, he gives up 112pts
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:10pm #439513
abriggs06ParticipantI can speak for me: lets wait a little longer before we assess a player who prior to this season was on the verge of being labeled a bust…..
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:10pm #439531
abriggs06ParticipantI can speak for me: lets wait a little longer before we assess a player who prior to this season was on the verge of being labeled a bust…..
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:10pm #439540
abriggs06ParticipantI can speak for me: lets wait a little longer before we assess a player who prior to this season was on the verge of being labeled a bust…..
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:15pm #439556
stanford hoops11th in steals out of starting small forwards
4th in scoring out of starting small forwards
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:15pm #439529
stanford hoops11th in steals out of starting small forwards
4th in scoring out of starting small forwards
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:15pm #439545
stanford hoops11th in steals out of starting small forwards
4th in scoring out of starting small forwards
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:18pm #439559
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantNever said he can’t score.
0.6bpg
0.9spg
I don’t care where he ranked, this is the actual stat.
Less than 1 on both.
Offensive rating, in 100 possessions, he would score 106pts
Defensive rating, in 100 possessions, he gives up 112pts
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:18pm #439532
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantNever said he can’t score.
0.6bpg
0.9spg
I don’t care where he ranked, this is the actual stat.
Less than 1 on both.
Offensive rating, in 100 possessions, he would score 106pts
Defensive rating, in 100 possessions, he gives up 112pts
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:18pm #439548
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantNever said he can’t score.
0.6bpg
0.9spg
I don’t care where he ranked, this is the actual stat.
Less than 1 on both.
Offensive rating, in 100 possessions, he would score 106pts
Defensive rating, in 100 possessions, he gives up 112pts
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:23pm #439554
andxxxParticipantsteals are an overrated stat when it comes to actual defense and of course he’s scoring a lot who else is suppose to be the scorer on that team. I think what Tongue-Out-Like-23 is saying is that Beasley is good, but ppl are overrating him 13 games into the season
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:23pm #439565
andxxxParticipantsteals are an overrated stat when it comes to actual defense and of course he’s scoring a lot who else is suppose to be the scorer on that team. I think what Tongue-Out-Like-23 is saying is that Beasley is good, but ppl are overrating him 13 games into the season
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:23pm #439538
andxxxParticipantsteals are an overrated stat when it comes to actual defense and of course he’s scoring a lot who else is suppose to be the scorer on that team. I think what Tongue-Out-Like-23 is saying is that Beasley is good, but ppl are overrating him 13 games into the season
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:23pm #439557
stanford hoopsMaybe because I don’t do what if stats or per this or that. I deal with facts. What a person does in the minutes that they do play. No one wins the scoring or rebounding,block,assist titles by what they would score in 48 min or rebound in 48 min. Lol. See the difference. Everyhing I’ve put up is based on what beasley as ACTUALLY done. You pull up two things on what MIGHT happen in 100 possessions. Lol. Is that really the best proof you can come up with. Lmao
Even you’re blocks and steals and scoring has back fired. I think being in the top 5-10 at you’re position is pretty good is it not?
Just giving up buddy cuz you’re fighting a losing battle. You have proved everything you have said isn’t based on actual facts. The closest you have come to that is per 100 posessions. LMFAO. Yea let’s base every players offense and defense on per100 possessions. Man u really are reaching. Next thing you’re gonna put is how little he scores or defends when playing on a Monday night when it’s raining while his car is left with half a tank of gas
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:23pm #439567
stanford hoopsMaybe because I don’t do what if stats or per this or that. I deal with facts. What a person does in the minutes that they do play. No one wins the scoring or rebounding,block,assist titles by what they would score in 48 min or rebound in 48 min. Lol. See the difference. Everyhing I’ve put up is based on what beasley as ACTUALLY done. You pull up two things on what MIGHT happen in 100 possessions. Lol. Is that really the best proof you can come up with. Lmao
Even you’re blocks and steals and scoring has back fired. I think being in the top 5-10 at you’re position is pretty good is it not?
Just giving up buddy cuz you’re fighting a losing battle. You have proved everything you have said isn’t based on actual facts. The closest you have come to that is per 100 posessions. LMFAO. Yea let’s base every players offense and defense on per100 possessions. Man u really are reaching. Next thing you’re gonna put is how little he scores or defends when playing on a Monday night when it’s raining while his car is left with half a tank of gas
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:23pm #439541
stanford hoopsMaybe because I don’t do what if stats or per this or that. I deal with facts. What a person does in the minutes that they do play. No one wins the scoring or rebounding,block,assist titles by what they would score in 48 min or rebound in 48 min. Lol. See the difference. Everyhing I’ve put up is based on what beasley as ACTUALLY done. You pull up two things on what MIGHT happen in 100 possessions. Lol. Is that really the best proof you can come up with. Lmao
Even you’re blocks and steals and scoring has back fired. I think being in the top 5-10 at you’re position is pretty good is it not?
Just giving up buddy cuz you’re fighting a losing battle. You have proved everything you have said isn’t based on actual facts. The closest you have come to that is per 100 posessions. LMFAO. Yea let’s base every players offense and defense on per100 possessions. Man u really are reaching. Next thing you’re gonna put is how little he scores or defends when playing on a Monday night when it’s raining while his car is left with half a tank of gas
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:26pm #439563
stanford hoopsI think I can live with beasley giving up that many points per 100 possessions since he gives up 14ppg per how ever many minutes he plays a game. Yeah I think that might be more important . But hey maybe I’m just crazy
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:26pm #439574
stanford hoopsI think I can live with beasley giving up that many points per 100 possessions since he gives up 14ppg per how ever many minutes he plays a game. Yeah I think that might be more important . But hey maybe I’m just crazy
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:26pm #439546
stanford hoopsI think I can live with beasley giving up that many points per 100 possessions since he gives up 14ppg per how ever many minutes he plays a game. Yeah I think that might be more important . But hey maybe I’m just crazy
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:30pm #439552
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantOk, let’s use math..
106pts per 100 possessions means 22pts in 23.9 possessions per game, which is his actual number.
Defensive rating, in 100 possessions, he gives up 112pts
112pts in 100 means they score 26.7ppg on him when his opponents get the same number of touches as he
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:30pm #439569
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantOk, let’s use math..
106pts per 100 possessions means 22pts in 23.9 possessions per game, which is his actual number.
Defensive rating, in 100 possessions, he gives up 112pts
112pts in 100 means they score 26.7ppg on him when his opponents get the same number of touches as he
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:30pm #439580
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantOk, let’s use math..
106pts per 100 possessions means 22pts in 23.9 possessions per game, which is his actual number.
Defensive rating, in 100 possessions, he gives up 112pts
112pts in 100 means they score 26.7ppg on him when his opponents get the same number of touches as he
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:32pm #439555
andxxxParticipantThese were the top 5 in defensive rating last year its not a bad stat
1. Dwight Howard-ORL 95.4 2. Andrew Bogut-MIL 98.1 3. Gerald Wallace-CHA 99.7 4. Lamar Odom-LAL 100.4 5. Rasheed Wallace-BOS 100.5 0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:32pm #439572
andxxxParticipantThese were the top 5 in defensive rating last year its not a bad stat
1. Dwight Howard-ORL 95.4 2. Andrew Bogut-MIL 98.1 3. Gerald Wallace-CHA 99.7 4. Lamar Odom-LAL 100.4 5. Rasheed Wallace-BOS 100.5 0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:32pm #439582
andxxxParticipantThese were the top 5 in defensive rating last year its not a bad stat
1. Dwight Howard-ORL 95.4 2. Andrew Bogut-MIL 98.1 3. Gerald Wallace-CHA 99.7 4. Lamar Odom-LAL 100.4 5. Rasheed Wallace-BOS 100.5 0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:34pm #439564
HaleParticipantThis is absurd. It seems like everyone is overrating or underrating Michael Beasley. Yes,of course he was going to score more in Minny. We all knew this. But no one accounted for him being this motviated and becoming a leader. Like why are some of you trying to make it seem like he hasn’t improved at all? The dude has the talent to be an All Star. How can you deny that? You are all the same people who thought he was a future stud before his draft and went number 2, you don’t go number 2 unless you have the talent to be great. The potential has always been there.
@BTPH
Really? Not a steal? Have you watched the super team the Wolves ‘helped’? The Heat are 6-4, at least Beasley is showing the results on his part of the deal. For you to say it’s a bad move is moronic. They gave up next to nothing to get a player with All Star talent (who has also produced very nicely). They stockpiled talent for nothing. The goal of an NBA team is too win a championship, yes, you said that correct. So bringing in good talent for nothing, helps the team. Why don’t you get that? They improved their team by getting him. Sure they are still a bad team, but they have missed starters for most of their games. I don’t even like the T-Wolves and it’s obvious you’re hating.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:34pm #439583
HaleParticipantThis is absurd. It seems like everyone is overrating or underrating Michael Beasley. Yes,of course he was going to score more in Minny. We all knew this. But no one accounted for him being this motviated and becoming a leader. Like why are some of you trying to make it seem like he hasn’t improved at all? The dude has the talent to be an All Star. How can you deny that? You are all the same people who thought he was a future stud before his draft and went number 2, you don’t go number 2 unless you have the talent to be great. The potential has always been there.
@BTPH
Really? Not a steal? Have you watched the super team the Wolves ‘helped’? The Heat are 6-4, at least Beasley is showing the results on his part of the deal. For you to say it’s a bad move is moronic. They gave up next to nothing to get a player with All Star talent (who has also produced very nicely). They stockpiled talent for nothing. The goal of an NBA team is too win a championship, yes, you said that correct. So bringing in good talent for nothing, helps the team. Why don’t you get that? They improved their team by getting him. Sure they are still a bad team, but they have missed starters for most of their games. I don’t even like the T-Wolves and it’s obvious you’re hating.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:34pm #439592
HaleParticipantThis is absurd. It seems like everyone is overrating or underrating Michael Beasley. Yes,of course he was going to score more in Minny. We all knew this. But no one accounted for him being this motviated and becoming a leader. Like why are some of you trying to make it seem like he hasn’t improved at all? The dude has the talent to be an All Star. How can you deny that? You are all the same people who thought he was a future stud before his draft and went number 2, you don’t go number 2 unless you have the talent to be great. The potential has always been there.
@BTPH
Really? Not a steal? Have you watched the super team the Wolves ‘helped’? The Heat are 6-4, at least Beasley is showing the results on his part of the deal. For you to say it’s a bad move is moronic. They gave up next to nothing to get a player with All Star talent (who has also produced very nicely). They stockpiled talent for nothing. The goal of an NBA team is too win a championship, yes, you said that correct. So bringing in good talent for nothing, helps the team. Why don’t you get that? They improved their team by getting him. Sure they are still a bad team, but they have missed starters for most of their games. I don’t even like the T-Wolves and it’s obvious you’re hating.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:34pm #439566
stanford hoopsMy point is beasley is ranked in the top 5-8 in points,rebounds,steals etc at his position. Which means he’s above average in each of those catagories at his position. If I’m not mistaken that means based on his position,compared to his peers he is ranked ahead of almost all other small forwards in the NBA
Who is overrating beasley though. I still havnt read anyone overrating him. No one said he’s all NBA. Or a allstar this year or all defensive team or leading his team to the playoffs a title or even a winning record. Maybe I misses something but please show me or copy and paste where someone overrated him
What I do see is people getting tired of reading about him so they decided to talk about what he can’t do or what he isn’t very good at
Like seeing someone talk about how fine a good looking girl is and get tired of hearing about it so you start to point out the girls flaws or say “well per 50 years she won’t look so fine” lol
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:34pm #439586
stanford hoopsMy point is beasley is ranked in the top 5-8 in points,rebounds,steals etc at his position. Which means he’s above average in each of those catagories at his position. If I’m not mistaken that means based on his position,compared to his peers he is ranked ahead of almost all other small forwards in the NBA
Who is overrating beasley though. I still havnt read anyone overrating him. No one said he’s all NBA. Or a allstar this year or all defensive team or leading his team to the playoffs a title or even a winning record. Maybe I misses something but please show me or copy and paste where someone overrated him
What I do see is people getting tired of reading about him so they decided to talk about what he can’t do or what he isn’t very good at
Like seeing someone talk about how fine a good looking girl is and get tired of hearing about it so you start to point out the girls flaws or say “well per 50 years she won’t look so fine” lol
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:34pm #439594
stanford hoopsMy point is beasley is ranked in the top 5-8 in points,rebounds,steals etc at his position. Which means he’s above average in each of those catagories at his position. If I’m not mistaken that means based on his position,compared to his peers he is ranked ahead of almost all other small forwards in the NBA
Who is overrating beasley though. I still havnt read anyone overrating him. No one said he’s all NBA. Or a allstar this year or all defensive team or leading his team to the playoffs a title or even a winning record. Maybe I misses something but please show me or copy and paste where someone overrated him
What I do see is people getting tired of reading about him so they decided to talk about what he can’t do or what he isn’t very good at
Like seeing someone talk about how fine a good looking girl is and get tired of hearing about it so you start to point out the girls flaws or say “well per 50 years she won’t look so fine” lol
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:36pm #439573
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantThere’s your actual number.
Now let’s see who are the opposing small forwards you keep talking about.
Casspi (2x)
Delfino
Gay: 25pts, 6rbs, 5asts, 4stls
James: 20pts (7-12), 12asts
Richardson
Ma. Williams (2x)
Battier
Artest
Chandler
G. Wallace: 26pts, 5asts, 4rbs
R. Butler
It’s fair to say that the players who I didn’t post stats for, aren’t going to drop 20ppg on their respective teams.. So he’s been guarding either scrubs, spot up shooters, or defensive minded small forwards, and the only times he guarded scorers, they torched him for 24ppg..
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:36pm #439591
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantThere’s your actual number.
Now let’s see who are the opposing small forwards you keep talking about.
Casspi (2x)
Delfino
Gay: 25pts, 6rbs, 5asts, 4stls
James: 20pts (7-12), 12asts
Richardson
Ma. Williams (2x)
Battier
Artest
Chandler
G. Wallace: 26pts, 5asts, 4rbs
R. Butler
It’s fair to say that the players who I didn’t post stats for, aren’t going to drop 20ppg on their respective teams.. So he’s been guarding either scrubs, spot up shooters, or defensive minded small forwards, and the only times he guarded scorers, they torched him for 24ppg..
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:36pm #439601
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantThere’s your actual number.
Now let’s see who are the opposing small forwards you keep talking about.
Casspi (2x)
Delfino
Gay: 25pts, 6rbs, 5asts, 4stls
James: 20pts (7-12), 12asts
Richardson
Ma. Williams (2x)
Battier
Artest
Chandler
G. Wallace: 26pts, 5asts, 4rbs
R. Butler
It’s fair to say that the players who I didn’t post stats for, aren’t going to drop 20ppg on their respective teams.. So he’s been guarding either scrubs, spot up shooters, or defensive minded small forwards, and the only times he guarded scorers, they torched him for 24ppg..
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:40pm #439578
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantBy the way, check what he did against good defenders at the small forward position
vs James: 11pts, 2rbs (4-9 FG)
vs Artest: 17pts, 1rb (6-15 FG)
vs Battier: 15pts, 2rbs (5-12 FG)
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:40pm #439597
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantBy the way, check what he did against good defenders at the small forward position
vs James: 11pts, 2rbs (4-9 FG)
vs Artest: 17pts, 1rb (6-15 FG)
vs Battier: 15pts, 2rbs (5-12 FG)
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:40pm #439607
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantBy the way, check what he did against good defenders at the small forward position
vs James: 11pts, 2rbs (4-9 FG)
vs Artest: 17pts, 1rb (6-15 FG)
vs Battier: 15pts, 2rbs (5-12 FG)
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:41pm #439581
HaleParticipantHe was hurt against the Heat. He had 11 points in the first quarter.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:41pm #439600
HaleParticipantHe was hurt against the Heat. He had 11 points in the first quarter.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:41pm #439610
HaleParticipantHe was hurt against the Heat. He had 11 points in the first quarter.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:43pm #439584
Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant^ still shooting 4-9
I’m not saying he’s a bad player, but I’m saying all he can do is score, people are already raving how he’s the next Carmelo Anthony because of a string of good games he’s had. If that’s the case, Paul Millsap is the next Dirk because he’s playing so well.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:43pm #439602
Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant^ still shooting 4-9
I’m not saying he’s a bad player, but I’m saying all he can do is score, people are already raving how he’s the next Carmelo Anthony because of a string of good games he’s had. If that’s the case, Paul Millsap is the next Dirk because he’s playing so well.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:43pm #439613
Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant^ still shooting 4-9
I’m not saying he’s a bad player, but I’m saying all he can do is score, people are already raving how he’s the next Carmelo Anthony because of a string of good games he’s had. If that’s the case, Paul Millsap is the next Dirk because he’s playing so well.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:46pm #439590
HaleParticipantHe is not anywhere near Melo, but he is still getting no love from a lot of people on here. BTW if he made his next shot he would be 5-10 which is good, 4-9 isn’t bad.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:46pm #439609
HaleParticipantHe is not anywhere near Melo, but he is still getting no love from a lot of people on here. BTW if he made his next shot he would be 5-10 which is good, 4-9 isn’t bad.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:46pm #439618
HaleParticipantHe is not anywhere near Melo, but he is still getting no love from a lot of people on here. BTW if he made his next shot he would be 5-10 which is good, 4-9 isn’t bad.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:47pm #439593
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantI keep saying he’s Antawn Jamison, plays the same tweener position and can score. I’m not underrating this kid nor am I overrating. This guy was one of my favorite players in high school, I even have his McDonalds All-American Jersey (it matches with nothing).
I’m just saying, it’s too soon for everybody to say he’s the next multiple time All-Star and he’s the next Melo.
Carmelo is on the same level as James, Durant, Wade, Howard, Paul, Williams, and, of course, Bryant.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:47pm #439611
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantI keep saying he’s Antawn Jamison, plays the same tweener position and can score. I’m not underrating this kid nor am I overrating. This guy was one of my favorite players in high school, I even have his McDonalds All-American Jersey (it matches with nothing).
I’m just saying, it’s too soon for everybody to say he’s the next multiple time All-Star and he’s the next Melo.
Carmelo is on the same level as James, Durant, Wade, Howard, Paul, Williams, and, of course, Bryant.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:47pm #439621
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantI keep saying he’s Antawn Jamison, plays the same tweener position and can score. I’m not underrating this kid nor am I overrating. This guy was one of my favorite players in high school, I even have his McDonalds All-American Jersey (it matches with nothing).
I’m just saying, it’s too soon for everybody to say he’s the next multiple time All-Star and he’s the next Melo.
Carmelo is on the same level as James, Durant, Wade, Howard, Paul, Williams, and, of course, Bryant.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:48pm #439596
stanford hoopsYou have proven my point that you don’t watch the games. I didn’t watch the Miami game but I do know he hurt his back in the first quarter in which he had 11points and held lebron to 0-6. Or might have been 1-6
Rudy gay and Wallace scored around what they usually score. That’s a big. Deal how exactly? These are things I already know because I watched the games unlike you
I see you decided to only put the stats of Wallace and gay ( one was a allstar the other has allstar talent). Where are the stats for ALL the starters he has guarded??????
And correct me if I’m wrong but when someone scores,rebounds wins a game do they include all the games they did it in or just the games that has real good players or real good teams? Isn’t it based on all games teams?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:48pm #439614
stanford hoopsYou have proven my point that you don’t watch the games. I didn’t watch the Miami game but I do know he hurt his back in the first quarter in which he had 11points and held lebron to 0-6. Or might have been 1-6
Rudy gay and Wallace scored around what they usually score. That’s a big. Deal how exactly? These are things I already know because I watched the games unlike you
I see you decided to only put the stats of Wallace and gay ( one was a allstar the other has allstar talent). Where are the stats for ALL the starters he has guarded??????
And correct me if I’m wrong but when someone scores,rebounds wins a game do they include all the games they did it in or just the games that has real good players or real good teams? Isn’t it based on all games teams?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:48pm #439624
stanford hoopsYou have proven my point that you don’t watch the games. I didn’t watch the Miami game but I do know he hurt his back in the first quarter in which he had 11points and held lebron to 0-6. Or might have been 1-6
Rudy gay and Wallace scored around what they usually score. That’s a big. Deal how exactly? These are things I already know because I watched the games unlike you
I see you decided to only put the stats of Wallace and gay ( one was a allstar the other has allstar talent). Where are the stats for ALL the starters he has guarded??????
And correct me if I’m wrong but when someone scores,rebounds wins a game do they include all the games they did it in or just the games that has real good players or real good teams? Isn’t it based on all games teams?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:58pm #439622
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantYou’re simply overrating him because he scored tons of points against bad players.
If I go to a middle school and drop 50 pts, does that make me SO MUCH better? No, because I did it against scrubs. it’s 13 games in and he’s proved to not be able to do well against good team. We all know his problems are focus and consistency. How about we give it another 20 games then bring this up again.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:58pm #439638
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantYou’re simply overrating him because he scored tons of points against bad players.
If I go to a middle school and drop 50 pts, does that make me SO MUCH better? No, because I did it against scrubs. it’s 13 games in and he’s proved to not be able to do well against good team. We all know his problems are focus and consistency. How about we give it another 20 games then bring this up again.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 2:58pm #439648
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantYou’re simply overrating him because he scored tons of points against bad players.
If I go to a middle school and drop 50 pts, does that make me SO MUCH better? No, because I did it against scrubs. it’s 13 games in and he’s proved to not be able to do well against good team. We all know his problems are focus and consistency. How about we give it another 20 games then bring this up again.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 3:11pm #439634
stanford hoopsSo which part of saying he has all star potential is overrating him?
Those are defenders who have given the best of the best trouble with there defense so I’m not understanding you’re point. The NBA doesn’t keep guys from allstar teams or disreguard there scoring stats because they score well against every player except 3 of the best defenders in the NBA.
And once again tell me where someone said beasley will be a mutiple allstar. Where is someone overrating him? How is it overrating to say he has the potential to be like melo (which fans and NBA coachs have all said)
You get on me for not answering a question so answer that for me
Where is it that people are overrating him???
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 3:11pm #439650
stanford hoopsSo which part of saying he has all star potential is overrating him?
Those are defenders who have given the best of the best trouble with there defense so I’m not understanding you’re point. The NBA doesn’t keep guys from allstar teams or disreguard there scoring stats because they score well against every player except 3 of the best defenders in the NBA.
And once again tell me where someone said beasley will be a mutiple allstar. Where is someone overrating him? How is it overrating to say he has the potential to be like melo (which fans and NBA coachs have all said)
You get on me for not answering a question so answer that for me
Where is it that people are overrating him???
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 3:11pm #439660
stanford hoopsSo which part of saying he has all star potential is overrating him?
Those are defenders who have given the best of the best trouble with there defense so I’m not understanding you’re point. The NBA doesn’t keep guys from allstar teams or disreguard there scoring stats because they score well against every player except 3 of the best defenders in the NBA.
And once again tell me where someone said beasley will be a mutiple allstar. Where is someone overrating him? How is it overrating to say he has the potential to be like melo (which fans and NBA coachs have all said)
You get on me for not answering a question so answer that for me
Where is it that people are overrating him???
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 3:15pm #439637
stanford hoopsAnd people saying he has allstar ability isn’t just based on 13 games. Fans and coachs alike have been saying he has allstar ability starting back when he was halfway through college. This isn’t something that just came up this year. His talent was never deniable. The only question was can/will he live up to what he’s capable of. And I still havnt found one person saying he will be a allstar this year
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 3:15pm #439653
stanford hoopsAnd people saying he has allstar ability isn’t just based on 13 games. Fans and coachs alike have been saying he has allstar ability starting back when he was halfway through college. This isn’t something that just came up this year. His talent was never deniable. The only question was can/will he live up to what he’s capable of. And I still havnt found one person saying he will be a allstar this year
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 3:15pm #439663
stanford hoopsAnd people saying he has allstar ability isn’t just based on 13 games. Fans and coachs alike have been saying he has allstar ability starting back when he was halfway through college. This isn’t something that just came up this year. His talent was never deniable. The only question was can/will he live up to what he’s capable of. And I still havnt found one person saying he will be a allstar this year
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 3:30pm #439651
NbanflguyParticipantBeasley just stuffed Kobe
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 3:30pm #439668
NbanflguyParticipantBeasley just stuffed Kobe
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 3:30pm #439678
NbanflguyParticipantBeasley just stuffed Kobe
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 3:37pm #439661
stanford hoopsI like beasley but my lakers are gonna punish the twolves
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 3:37pm #439677
stanford hoopsI like beasley but my lakers are gonna punish the twolves
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 3:37pm #439686
stanford hoopsI like beasley but my lakers are gonna punish the twolves
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 4:03pm #439676
apb540ParticipantStats are nice and all but as Stanford said, you gotta watch the games to really tell what a player is. I have not been able to catch a ton of T-Wolves games, but from the parts I have seen, B-easy is playing the most dedicated basketball of his life. So what if he isn’t putting up amazing all-around stats? The guy has been putting up 30+ points, hitting game winning shots, and throwing down highlight dunks which is exxxactly why they traded for him. Give him his due, everyone agrees he has All-Star POTENTIAL, and now we move on.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 4:03pm #439693
apb540ParticipantStats are nice and all but as Stanford said, you gotta watch the games to really tell what a player is. I have not been able to catch a ton of T-Wolves games, but from the parts I have seen, B-easy is playing the most dedicated basketball of his life. So what if he isn’t putting up amazing all-around stats? The guy has been putting up 30+ points, hitting game winning shots, and throwing down highlight dunks which is exxxactly why they traded for him. Give him his due, everyone agrees he has All-Star POTENTIAL, and now we move on.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 4:03pm #439701
apb540ParticipantStats are nice and all but as Stanford said, you gotta watch the games to really tell what a player is. I have not been able to catch a ton of T-Wolves games, but from the parts I have seen, B-easy is playing the most dedicated basketball of his life. So what if he isn’t putting up amazing all-around stats? The guy has been putting up 30+ points, hitting game winning shots, and throwing down highlight dunks which is exxxactly why they traded for him. Give him his due, everyone agrees he has All-Star POTENTIAL, and now we move on.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 6:03pm #439811
SubZeroParticipantTongue-Out, don’t bring up stats if you tell him his argument isn’t valid because he brought up stats and stats lie.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 6:03pm #439789
SubZeroParticipantTongue-Out, don’t bring up stats if you tell him his argument isn’t valid because he brought up stats and stats lie.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 6:03pm #439804
SubZeroParticipantTongue-Out, don’t bring up stats if you tell him his argument isn’t valid because he brought up stats and stats lie.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 6:38pm #439821
mds0549ParticipantAll Melo does is score but people see him as one of the best players and are drooling over him as a free agent/trade. Beasly is a scorer and he would have more rebounds if he was playing PF but they have Love to take care of that.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 6:38pm #439828
mds0549ParticipantAll Melo does is score but people see him as one of the best players and are drooling over him as a free agent/trade. Beasly is a scorer and he would have more rebounds if he was playing PF but they have Love to take care of that.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 6:38pm #439806
mds0549ParticipantAll Melo does is score but people see him as one of the best players and are drooling over him as a free agent/trade. Beasly is a scorer and he would have more rebounds if he was playing PF but they have Love to take care of that.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 7:00pm #439826
SteroidParticipantBeasley does have the potential to be a good player in the league. He can be one of the best SF in the league. You can teach someone how to defend, but you can’t teach a person how to score. The holes in his games are things that can actually be fixed. The guy is only 21 or so years old, and he has a large window to improve. People are getting to caught up in this LeBron do-it-all syndrome where a player has to be able to do everything well to be a good player, which isn’t true at all. And how could Beasley be a bust? This guy is no where near being a bust regardless if he doesn’t live up to being a 25-5-5 player. Now that guy in Memphis or w/e he exists that goes by the name of Hasheem Thabeet, now that is a bust for you.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 7:00pm #439839
SteroidParticipantBeasley does have the potential to be a good player in the league. He can be one of the best SF in the league. You can teach someone how to defend, but you can’t teach a person how to score. The holes in his games are things that can actually be fixed. The guy is only 21 or so years old, and he has a large window to improve. People are getting to caught up in this LeBron do-it-all syndrome where a player has to be able to do everything well to be a good player, which isn’t true at all. And how could Beasley be a bust? This guy is no where near being a bust regardless if he doesn’t live up to being a 25-5-5 player. Now that guy in Memphis or w/e he exists that goes by the name of Hasheem Thabeet, now that is a bust for you.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 11/19/2010 - 7:00pm #439847
SteroidParticipantBeasley does have the potential to be a good player in the league. He can be one of the best SF in the league. You can teach someone how to defend, but you can’t teach a person how to score. The holes in his games are things that can actually be fixed. The guy is only 21 or so years old, and he has a large window to improve. People are getting to caught up in this LeBron do-it-all syndrome where a player has to be able to do everything well to be a good player, which isn’t true at all. And how could Beasley be a bust? This guy is no where near being a bust regardless if he doesn’t live up to being a 25-5-5 player. Now that guy in Memphis or w/e he exists that goes by the name of Hasheem Thabeet, now that is a bust for you.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 2:27am #439944
hiphopismylifeParticipantStanford to say that someone putting up a triple double on the Clippers wouldn’t mean much might be pushing it a little lol. Yeah Tmac didn’t get out of the first round but when he was in Orlando he was finishing in the discussion for MVP for several years and being argued as the best player in the league. Despite being on a team that wasn’t a contender.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 2:27am #439960
hiphopismylifeParticipantStanford to say that someone putting up a triple double on the Clippers wouldn’t mean much might be pushing it a little lol. Yeah Tmac didn’t get out of the first round but when he was in Orlando he was finishing in the discussion for MVP for several years and being argued as the best player in the league. Despite being on a team that wasn’t a contender.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 2:27am #439967
hiphopismylifeParticipantStanford to say that someone putting up a triple double on the Clippers wouldn’t mean much might be pushing it a little lol. Yeah Tmac didn’t get out of the first round but when he was in Orlando he was finishing in the discussion for MVP for several years and being argued as the best player in the league. Despite being on a team that wasn’t a contender.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 8:41am #440112
stanford hoopsI was being sarcastic. I do believe a player can be good on a bad team. I just wanted to see if his logic just applied to beasley or all players who put up numbers on a bad team. Once I names other players he switches it up saying “well so and so can also do this or that”. Saying someone isn’t as good just because they are on a bad team is bs
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 8:41am #440129
stanford hoopsI was being sarcastic. I do believe a player can be good on a bad team. I just wanted to see if his logic just applied to beasley or all players who put up numbers on a bad team. Once I names other players he switches it up saying “well so and so can also do this or that”. Saying someone isn’t as good just because they are on a bad team is bs
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 8:41am #440135
stanford hoopsI was being sarcastic. I do believe a player can be good on a bad team. I just wanted to see if his logic just applied to beasley or all players who put up numbers on a bad team. Once I names other players he switches it up saying “well so and so can also do this or that”. Saying someone isn’t as good just because they are on a bad team is bs
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 8:51am #440124
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantNo, like I said, all Beasley can do is score. If somebody posts a triple double, that’s different because they have the ability to rebound and pass, unlike Beasley who all he can do is score and his defense is shakey.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 8:51am #440140
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantNo, like I said, all Beasley can do is score. If somebody posts a triple double, that’s different because they have the ability to rebound and pass, unlike Beasley who all he can do is score and his defense is shakey.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 8:51am #440147
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantNo, like I said, all Beasley can do is score. If somebody posts a triple double, that’s different because they have the ability to rebound and pass, unlike Beasley who all he can do is score and his defense is shakey.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 9:57am #440215
SteroidParticipantYou’re just a hater, Tongue it out like 23.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 9:57am #440231
SteroidParticipantYou’re just a hater, Tongue it out like 23.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 9:57am #440236
SteroidParticipantYou’re just a hater, Tongue it out like 23.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 10:00am #440217
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantYeah, that’s a valid argument, Steroid.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 10:00am #440234
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantYeah, that’s a valid argument, Steroid.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 10:00am #440240
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantYeah, that’s a valid argument, Steroid.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 12:07pm #440342
HitsterParticipantBeasley has certainly started to mature as a player under Kurt Rambis, his defensive game is still very much a work in progress but his rebounding and blocking have improved especially when he is playing alongside K-Love who is one of the best rebounders in the NBA and Darko is one of the most prolific blockers so far this year.
The acid test will be can Beasley help the team improve win-wise over the next few years.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 12:07pm #440359
HitsterParticipantBeasley has certainly started to mature as a player under Kurt Rambis, his defensive game is still very much a work in progress but his rebounding and blocking have improved especially when he is playing alongside K-Love who is one of the best rebounders in the NBA and Darko is one of the most prolific blockers so far this year.
The acid test will be can Beasley help the team improve win-wise over the next few years.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 12:07pm #440367
HitsterParticipantBeasley has certainly started to mature as a player under Kurt Rambis, his defensive game is still very much a work in progress but his rebounding and blocking have improved especially when he is playing alongside K-Love who is one of the best rebounders in the NBA and Darko is one of the most prolific blockers so far this year.
The acid test will be can Beasley help the team improve win-wise over the next few years.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 8:05pm #440865
IndianaBasketballParticipantI agree with you about Beasley, but disagree with you about Gordon. Gordon is very strong defensively and can defend three positions.
He’s not a point guard, but he’s averaging close to 5 assists this season. He’s showing improvement and doing things most didn’t think he could do. Beasley is doing what people thought he could do. Nothing more, nothing less.
The Clippers suck, but you can’t blame any of that on Gordon.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 8:05pm #440880
IndianaBasketballParticipantI agree with you about Beasley, but disagree with you about Gordon. Gordon is very strong defensively and can defend three positions.
He’s not a point guard, but he’s averaging close to 5 assists this season. He’s showing improvement and doing things most didn’t think he could do. Beasley is doing what people thought he could do. Nothing more, nothing less.
The Clippers suck, but you can’t blame any of that on Gordon.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 8:05pm #440887
IndianaBasketballParticipantI agree with you about Beasley, but disagree with you about Gordon. Gordon is very strong defensively and can defend three positions.
He’s not a point guard, but he’s averaging close to 5 assists this season. He’s showing improvement and doing things most didn’t think he could do. Beasley is doing what people thought he could do. Nothing more, nothing less.
The Clippers suck, but you can’t blame any of that on Gordon.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 8:12pm #440885
IndianaBasketballParticipantOr I should say, you can’t blame too much of that on Gordon. He’s shooting terrible from three and is averaging over three turnovers.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 8:12pm #440900
IndianaBasketballParticipantOr I should say, you can’t blame too much of that on Gordon. He’s shooting terrible from three and is averaging over three turnovers.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 11/20/2010 - 8:12pm #440908
IndianaBasketballParticipantOr I should say, you can’t blame too much of that on Gordon. He’s shooting terrible from three and is averaging over three turnovers.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/21/2010 - 12:20am #441050
stanford hoopsGordan is mostly to blame for the losing. That’s how it works if you’re the star of the team just like he would get most of the praise if they were winning. The wins/lost falls on the star player. You know that. Always been like that
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/21/2010 - 12:20am #441060
stanford hoopsGordan is mostly to blame for the losing. That’s how it works if you’re the star of the team just like he would get most of the praise if they were winning. The wins/lost falls on the star player. You know that. Always been like that
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/21/2010 - 12:20am #441069
stanford hoopsGordan is mostly to blame for the losing. That’s how it works if you’re the star of the team just like he would get most of the praise if they were winning. The wins/lost falls on the star player. You know that. Always been like that
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/21/2010 - 7:14am #441132
hiphopismylifeParticipant@stanford hoops.My bad I got you. And I agree with that totally. This is the NBA not high school.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/21/2010 - 7:14am #441141
hiphopismylifeParticipant@stanford hoops.My bad I got you. And I agree with that totally. This is the NBA not high school.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/21/2010 - 7:14am #441149
hiphopismylifeParticipant@stanford hoops.My bad I got you. And I agree with that totally. This is the NBA not high school.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/21/2010 - 10:56am #441383
IndianaBasketballParticipantThe entire team is to blame, but you certaintly can’t fault Gordon and Griffin too much. Of course they’re making mistakes and still learning. I mean, they’re both 21 years old.
The entire team is to blame though. They’re poor in third quarters. They make mistakes down the stretch of games. Bad defense. The bench has been pathetic. They’re starting three rookies and two third year pros. They probably have the youngest starting five in the NBA right now. Mistakes are going to happen.
The Clippers are just a bad team. It’s that simple. I’m not impressed with Del Negro either.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/21/2010 - 10:56am #441384
IndianaBasketballParticipantThe entire team is to blame, but you certaintly can’t fault Gordon and Griffin too much. Of course they’re making mistakes and still learning. I mean, they’re both 21 years old.
The entire team is to blame though. They’re poor in third quarters. They make mistakes down the stretch of games. Bad defense. The bench has been pathetic. They’re starting three rookies and two third year pros. They probably have the youngest starting five in the NBA right now. Mistakes are going to happen.
The Clippers are just a bad team. It’s that simple. I’m not impressed with Del Negro either.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/21/2010 - 10:56am #441397
IndianaBasketballParticipantThe entire team is to blame, but you certaintly can’t fault Gordon and Griffin too much. Of course they’re making mistakes and still learning. I mean, they’re both 21 years old.
The entire team is to blame though. They’re poor in third quarters. They make mistakes down the stretch of games. Bad defense. The bench has been pathetic. They’re starting three rookies and two third year pros. They probably have the youngest starting five in the NBA right now. Mistakes are going to happen.
The Clippers are just a bad team. It’s that simple. I’m not impressed with Del Negro either.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/21/2010 - 10:56am #441402
IndianaBasketballParticipantThe entire team is to blame, but you certaintly can’t fault Gordon and Griffin too much. Of course they’re making mistakes and still learning. I mean, they’re both 21 years old.
The entire team is to blame though. They’re poor in third quarters. They make mistakes down the stretch of games. Bad defense. The bench has been pathetic. They’re starting three rookies and two third year pros. They probably have the youngest starting five in the NBA right now. Mistakes are going to happen.
The Clippers are just a bad team. It’s that simple. I’m not impressed with Del Negro either.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/21/2010 - 11:00am #441392
stanford hoopsOf course this blame all around but most always falls on the leaders which would be coach and Eric gordan. That’s how it’s always been and star players accept that. Just like when they win people say ” Eric gordan lead them to victory”. You take the good with the bad. The leader accepts the praise when they win and the blame when they lose
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/21/2010 - 11:00am #441393
stanford hoopsOf course this blame all around but most always falls on the leaders which would be coach and Eric gordan. That’s how it’s always been and star players accept that. Just like when they win people say ” Eric gordan lead them to victory”. You take the good with the bad. The leader accepts the praise when they win and the blame when they lose
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/21/2010 - 11:00am #441405
stanford hoopsOf course this blame all around but most always falls on the leaders which would be coach and Eric gordan. That’s how it’s always been and star players accept that. Just like when they win people say ” Eric gordan lead them to victory”. You take the good with the bad. The leader accepts the praise when they win and the blame when they lose
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/21/2010 - 11:00am #441412
stanford hoopsOf course this blame all around but most always falls on the leaders which would be coach and Eric gordan. That’s how it’s always been and star players accept that. Just like when they win people say ” Eric gordan lead them to victory”. You take the good with the bad. The leader accepts the praise when they win and the blame when they lose
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/21/2010 - 11:20am #441410
IndianaBasketballParticipantGordon has shown improvement in that area, but I wouldn’t say he’s the leader. I do see him trying to grow into that role though, which is what you’ve criticized him of the last two seasons.
The three "leaders" of the Clippers are Del Negro, Davis and Kaman.
This is a team with two talented young players, three rookies being thrown into the fire sooner than expected (Bledsoe, Aminu and Warren) and a group of underachieving veterans (Foye, Smith, Butler, Gomes and Cook).
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/21/2010 - 11:20am #441423
IndianaBasketballParticipantGordon has shown improvement in that area, but I wouldn’t say he’s the leader. I do see him trying to grow into that role though, which is what you’ve criticized him of the last two seasons.
The three "leaders" of the Clippers are Del Negro, Davis and Kaman.
This is a team with two talented young players, three rookies being thrown into the fire sooner than expected (Bledsoe, Aminu and Warren) and a group of underachieving veterans (Foye, Smith, Butler, Gomes and Cook).
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/21/2010 - 11:20am #441430
IndianaBasketballParticipantGordon has shown improvement in that area, but I wouldn’t say he’s the leader. I do see him trying to grow into that role though, which is what you’ve criticized him of the last two seasons.
The three "leaders" of the Clippers are Del Negro, Davis and Kaman.
This is a team with two talented young players, three rookies being thrown into the fire sooner than expected (Bledsoe, Aminu and Warren) and a group of underachieving veterans (Foye, Smith, Butler, Gomes and Cook).
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/21/2010 - 11:26am #441419
stanford hoopsThe leader this year has clearly been gordan. And gordan has accepted alot of the blame because he knows right now he’s the leader. Even if some fans try to shield him from the blame. Baron is hurt kahman is hurt so that leave gordan as the leader. So he shoulders the most blame over the other players
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/21/2010 - 11:26am #441432
stanford hoopsThe leader this year has clearly been gordan. And gordan has accepted alot of the blame because he knows right now he’s the leader. Even if some fans try to shield him from the blame. Baron is hurt kahman is hurt so that leave gordan as the leader. So he shoulders the most blame over the other players
0 - Posted on: Sun, 11/21/2010 - 11:26am #441440
stanford hoopsThe leader this year has clearly been gordan. And gordan has accepted alot of the blame because he knows right now he’s the leader. Even if some fans try to shield him from the blame. Baron is hurt kahman is hurt so that leave gordan as the leader. So he shoulders the most blame over the other players
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:00pm #442368
IndianaBasketballParticipantDel Negro just said himself before last game that the team lacks a true leader right now and that it’s still trying to discover it’s identity.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:00pm #442382
IndianaBasketballParticipantDel Negro just said himself before last game that the team lacks a true leader right now and that it’s still trying to discover it’s identity.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/22/2010 - 12:00pm #442384
IndianaBasketballParticipantDel Negro just said himself before last game that the team lacks a true leader right now and that it’s still trying to discover it’s identity.
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