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Official Prospect vs Prospect II

1- Isaiah Austin vs Rudy Gobert
2- Will Cauley-Stein vs Mason Plumlee
3- Cj McCollum vs Marcus Smart
4- Pierre Jackson vs Ryan Harrow
5- Nerlens Noel vs Alex Len
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6-Victor Oladipo vs Patric Young
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I like the ones mentioned first.


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1- Isaiah Austin vs Rudy

1- Isaiah Austin vs Rudy Gobert-Tie. Probably the hardest on this list to call. Both these guys are similiar in build size legnth etc. I think Austin shots it better but Gobert is the better rebounder right now. Need to see more of both but could see scouts falling in love both.

2- Will Cauley-Stein vs Mason Plumlee-Will Cauley-Stein. This is the typical production vs. potential battle right here. Right now I'd take Plumlee no questions asked. But, three seasons from now I might regret it.

3- Cj McCollum vs Marcus Smart-Marcus Smart. Not a pure point guard and I'm not sure he has to be has the size and athleticism to play the postition. I think McCollum will be the perfect addition to any team. He's smart, unselfish and can fit in. Again taking Smart is all about upside.

4- Pierre Jackson vs Ryan Harrow-Ryan Harrow. If Pierre Jackson was 6'3 we wouldn't be having this competition but he's not he's closer to 5'9 or 5'10 Harrow gets the nod here based on the physical alone.

5- Nerlens Noel vs Alex Len-Noel. Once again production vs. potential. Not that Noel hasn't been productive but Len outplayed him and is outplaying him right now. That is not unusual for a beffier college big man to outplay the longer better prospect. Noel has size and athleticism. Is already an elite level defender. He plays hard and you are at least gettting a Tyson Chandlerish rebounder and defender if he adds a realible jump hook and mid-range jumper you're looking at a perinnal all-star level player. Again nothing wrong with Len just doesn't have the upside of Noel.
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6-Victor Oladipo vs Patric Young-Oladipo. not sure why this is on here as it is 6'5 6'6ish shooting guard vs. a 6'9ish power forward. Patric Young can play there are players like him sprinkled all through the league. Workhorse type big men who will never be stars but can contribute. Oldaipo is hard to call he can shoot the rock. At worst you are getting a player who can come off screens and make shots. If forced to pick between the two I go with Oladipo because he is more prototype for his postion.

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1. Austin - I haven't seen

1. Austin - I haven't seen Golbert play, so I'll just leave it at that. I can't make an arguement against him, but Austin is a good face up option at the next level. Strength, strength and more strength for Isaiah. He's not really a post player and lacks the strength and desire to be down low, to be much of defensive presence, but he's got enough length to pull down a few rebounds and a good jumper to develop into a solid pick and pop option. I see him as a role player at the next level, but he's got enough potential, he'll probably go in the lottery.

2.Plumlee - He's stronger, a superior athlete, only 1 inch shorter and more skilled. Cauley-Stein could be a good shot blocker and rebounder at the next level, but Plumlee has developed into a complete forward who is producing at a high level (16/7 and 21/17 back to back against #2 and #4 teams in the country) and he's not just some example of a college player who can produce but lacks the physical tools to play at the next level, he's 6'11'' with a 40+ '' vertical.

3.McCollum - If you haven't noticed, I'm not a fan of low percentage shot happy combo guards. McCollum has a more refined game, and although the combo guard is here to stay, I still think they have limited upside compared to other position players. Smart's stock is way to high for my taste, and I'd much rather get McCollum who could have a Damian Lillard style impact as a rookie ( minus the high assist numbers, he's more of a 2) and you could nab him a few picks lower in the draft.

4. Jackson - I think both guys are fringe NBA players, and I like Jackson more because of his competitve fire.

5. Len - Noel will probably develop into a Tyson Chandler "style" player, not saying he will ever win a DPOTY, but I really do think he will be a similar player, but Len could be a complete offensive post player who has the desire to play D as well. He is a combination of the Lopez bro's IMO. Brook's offense and Robin's defense with more speed and lateral quickness. I think he'll probably be a 12/6.5 player in his first year in the league. I think Noel will be a project who will most likely benefit the team he goes to after his rookie contract more than the team that drafted him.

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1- Isaiah Austin vs Rudy

1- Isaiah Austin vs Rudy Gobert-Austin. I haven't seen Gobert play either but I don't trust freakish length type big man unless there's overwhelming evidence he actually knows how to play basketball. What makes Gobert any different then his fellow country man Alexis Ajinca. Austin's too weak but he's tall and he clearly knows how to shoot.

2- Will Cauley-Stein vs Mason Plumlee-Plumlee. I don't think he'll be an all star but I trust Plumlee going forward because his improvement in free throw shooting makes him a dramatically more confident basketball player to go along his great athleticism. I like Cauley-Stein a lot though too I just need to see Kentucky improve before I try and examine him as a player.

3- Cj McCollum vs Marcus Smart-Smart. No disrespect to McCollum but I just think Smart is a top 5 player and the primary reason OK st. off to a great start. McCollum's a good shooter but who averages less than 20 ppg and 2.5 assists a game, by listed weights 35 lbs lighter and inch smaller compared to smart who's throwing up 14-7-5 against much tougher competition.

4- Pierre Jackson vs Ryan Harrow-Jackson. Pierre Jackson can flat out ball and he's only 21 for a senior while Ryan Harrow hasn't actually proven he's an effective player at even the college level.

5- Nerlens Noel vs Alex Len-Noel. Noel. Len's good but Noel will get much better season as the season moves a long and has too many physical gifts to not end up being at least a being a game changing defensive player

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I love your name, first of

I love your name, first of all, Barbrady learning to read is probably my favorite episode of South Park. That being said, I think you have some mis-information on C.J. McCollum. That's fine if you prefer Smart, but C.J. is dropping 24.4 ppg 5 rpg and 3.2 apg on 50/53/78 % shooting. You might have accientally looked at his freshman stats.

Also, Lehigh has played a pretty comparable schedule to OSU so far this season. McCollum hung 36 points on Baylor and had 17 against Pitt. He had 30 against Duke last year. Again, fine if you prefre Smart, but McCollum is not averaging less than 20 ppg and 2.5 apg nor has he played a much weaker pre-season schedule than Smart. He's putting up his stats in 4 fewer minutes per game, again part of his efficiency that I'm a fan of.

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