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  • #31256
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    kacey
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    If anyone wants a "unofficial" official draft score for their mock draft then just let me know. You don’t have to post a link to your mock, I will access it through the link below your name when you post.

    A simple "Yes" will suffice.

    I am pretty confident what I have configured on Excel will correctly total up your score, as I have just used this same spreadsheet to duplicate the 2009 and 2010 draft and I came up with my exact score.

     

    I have already done some scores for some people based on a couple of threads.

     

    UserTotal Score1st Rnd (Exact)2nd Rnd (Exact)
    JoeWolf111289 (7)23 (2)
    Jamie Y10687 (8)19 (0)
    mikeyvthedon9980 (6)19 (0)
    MagikKnicks9585 (10)10 (0)
    joecheck888977 (7)12 (0)
    Memphis Madness8367 (4)16 (1)
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  • #557572
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    I May Be Wrong
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    please

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  • #557632
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    I May Be Wrong
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    please

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  • #557574
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    Lotto Stud
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    I would like to know mine but it is a very poor mock.

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    • #557752
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      bdiddy5115
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      In!

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    • #557809
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      bdiddy5115
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      In!

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  • #557634
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    Lotto Stud
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    I would like to know mine but it is a very poor mock.

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  • #557576
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    kacey
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    Here is a link to check out occassionally.

    spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub

     

    It will contain the draft scores that have been requested.

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  • #557636
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    kacey
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    Here is a link to check out occassionally.

    spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub

     

    It will contain the draft scores that have been requested.

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  • #557581
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    MagikKnick
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     Thanks for doing mine in advance; Much appreciated.

    Aww, 4th place -_-

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  • #557640
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    MagikKnick
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     Thanks for doing mine in advance; Much appreciated.

    Aww, 4th place -_-

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  • #557583
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    jeff416
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    Yes

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  • #557642
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    jeff416
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    Yes

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  • #557609
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    Too cool
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    Yes

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  • #557668
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    Too cool
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    Yes

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  • #557615
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    RUDEBOY_
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    I Doubt If Anyone Got more than 10 Correct in the 1st Round..

    And maybe less than 5 in the 2nd Round….

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  • #557674
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    RUDEBOY_
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    I Doubt If Anyone Got more than 10 Correct in the 1st Round..

    And maybe less than 5 in the 2nd Round….

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  • #557617
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    RUDEBOY_
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    I Doubt If Anyone Got more than 10 Correct in the 1st Round..

    And maybe less than 5 in the 2nd Round….

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  • #557676
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    RUDEBOY_
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    I Doubt If Anyone Got more than 10 Correct in the 1st Round..

    And maybe less than 5 in the 2nd Round….

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  • #557621
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    aamir543
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    yes please

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  • #557680
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    aamir543
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    yes please

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  • #557625
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    gatorheels
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     I got 12 exact picks in the 1st Round.  Didn’t do good at all in the 2nd round though.  I think my total score is 101.

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  • #557684
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    gatorheels
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     I got 12 exact picks in the 1st Round.  Didn’t do good at all in the 2nd round though.  I think my total score is 101.

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  • #557637
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    ChiefSixOne
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    yes please, i just wanna know if i did better than last year, it was 82

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  • #557695
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    ChiefSixOne
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    yes please, i just wanna know if i did better than last year, it was 82

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  • #557639
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    aspence4
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    Yes

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  • #557697
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    aspence4
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    Yes

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  • #557643
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    NO EZ BUCKETS
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    yes

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  • #557702
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    NO EZ BUCKETS
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    yes

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  • #557649
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    Ollstar
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    please

     

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  • #557708
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    Ollstar
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    please

     

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  • #557653
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    MagikKnick
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     JoeWolf killed it, still the leader

    I May Be Wrong and Too Cool tied for last place lol

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  • #557711
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    MagikKnick
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     JoeWolf killed it, still the leader

    I May Be Wrong and Too Cool tied for last place lol

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  • #557655
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    French Flair
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    but I think I would have the worst score in mock draft history !

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  • #557713
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    French Flair
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    but I think I would have the worst score in mock draft history !

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  • #557657
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    White Chocolate
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    yes please

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  • #557715
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    White Chocolate
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    yes please

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  • #557663
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    paradigmn
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     yes please…good stuff…excel is the shizzzznit….can you make a presentation with powerpoint also…lol…but thank you 4 taking the time to do this…..much appreciated.

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  • #557721
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    paradigmn
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     yes please…good stuff…excel is the shizzzznit….can you make a presentation with powerpoint also…lol…but thank you 4 taking the time to do this…..much appreciated.

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  • #557669
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    paradigmn
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     damn…I knew I did bad…but I didnt get 1 point….LOL…thats got to be a new record here

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  • #557728
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    paradigmn
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     damn…I knew I did bad…but I didnt get 1 point….LOL…thats got to be a new record here

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  • #557689
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    kacey
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    Lol. Check again. I’ve been stuck on the phone the past 30 minutes and have been using one hand.

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  • #557747
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    kacey
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    Lol. Check again. I’ve been stuck on the phone the past 30 minutes and have been using one hand.

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  • #557693
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    paradigmn
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     ya…I see it now…thanx again man….congrats on your score as well…u did good….and good job JOE WOLF…looks like I will be following what you have 2 say through out the year….you are my new source for information….don’t let me down…lol

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  • #557751
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    paradigmn
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     ya…I see it now…thanx again man….congrats on your score as well…u did good….and good job JOE WOLF…looks like I will be following what you have 2 say through out the year….you are my new source for information….don’t let me down…lol

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  • #557704
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    paradigmn
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     I know u must be busy….so if u cant do this its all good….but if u have time do u think u could put up arans score…chad fords…and DX using the same scoring method…if its too much work I understand, but if theres any help u need like compiling info or something just let me know.

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  • #557761
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    paradigmn
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     I know u must be busy….so if u cant do this its all good….but if u have time do u think u could put up arans score…chad fords…and DX using the same scoring method…if its too much work I understand, but if theres any help u need like compiling info or something just let me know.

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  • #557712
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    kacey
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    Just put up Arans before I saw your post.  I will be trying to get JG’s up as well. If you have a link to Chad Ford’s last mock then I will try his too.

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  • #557769
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    kacey
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    Just put up Arans before I saw your post.  I will be trying to get JG’s up as well. If you have a link to Chad Ford’s last mock then I will try his too.

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  • #557716
    r377r377
    r377
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    yes please

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  • #557773
    r377r377
    r377
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    yes please

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  • #557722
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    toruk
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     please!

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  • #557779
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    toruk
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     please!

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  • #557727
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    paradigmn
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     heres his first round…http://proxy.espn.go.com/nba/draft2011/features/draftmachine/result

     

    and this is the most recent second round of his that I could find…http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/espn-insider-help-please

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  • #557785
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    paradigmn
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     heres his first round…http://proxy.espn.go.com/nba/draft2011/features/draftmachine/result

     

    and this is the most recent second round of his that I could find…http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/espn-insider-help-please

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  • #557731
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    B-ball fan
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     I would like mine, too, please.

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  • #557789
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    B-ball fan
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     I would like mine, too, please.

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  • #557736
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    aamir543
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    Does the worst score get some recognition too, because I only got THREE right, that is probably the worst svore for someone who was swerious about it, right.

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  • #557793
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    aamir543
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    Does the worst score get some recognition too, because I only got THREE right, that is probably the worst svore for someone who was swerious about it, right.

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  • #557738
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    rwoo27
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    Yes I’ll take last place

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  • #557796
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    rwoo27
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    Yes I’ll take last place

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  • #557742
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    kacey
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    I need a more up to date 2nd round for Chad Ford. The two links you gave me has Jimmy Butler in the first round and then in the 2nd round.

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  • #557800
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    kacey
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    I need a more up to date 2nd round for Chad Ford. The two links you gave me has Jimmy Butler in the first round and then in the 2nd round.

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  • #557758
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    mikeyvthedon
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    I underestimated my score. Joe Wolf, you kicked @ss and took names, man. It will be exciting to see who the winner is, and whether Joe Wolf goes mad with power if he is indeed the champion! 

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    • #557835
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      CoachWyers
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      Score Please.

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    • #557778
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      CoachWyers
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      Score Please.

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  • #557815
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    mikeyvthedon
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    I underestimated my score. Joe Wolf, you kicked @ss and took names, man. It will be exciting to see who the winner is, and whether Joe Wolf goes mad with power if he is indeed the champion! 

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  • #557839
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    paradigmn
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     Its been 3 years 4 days since you have joined NBAdraft.net….and this is your FIRST POST…. you must really be "pheening" for your score like the rest of us…..LOL

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  • #557782
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    paradigmn
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     Its been 3 years 4 days since you have joined NBAdraft.net….and this is your FIRST POST…. you must really be "pheening" for your score like the rest of us…..LOL

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  • #557841
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    Lotto Stud
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    I would most definitely love to know how he got 107 pts with only "1" post.

    see this face———–> O_o

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  • #557784
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    Lotto Stud
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    I would most definitely love to know how he got 107 pts with only "1" post.

    see this face———–> O_o

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  • #557861
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    JJeff6
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    Considering his only post is right there.  Haha and he has 2 pts. there.  Confusing

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  • #557803
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    JJeff6
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    Considering his only post is right there.  Haha and he has 2 pts. there.  Confusing

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  • #557869
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    kacey
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    He probably got most of his points from the previous draft contests

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  • #557812
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    kacey
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    He probably got most of his points from the previous draft contests

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  • #557854
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    paradigmn
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     Heres CHAD FORDS pick 30-40 in the second round..http://www.nba.com/bobcats/11_mock_drafts.html.then I guess maybe you can use the other link I sent you to fill out 41-60, if nothing coincides of course…I mean its late second round, it can’t be too different.

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  • #557911
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    paradigmn
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     Heres CHAD FORDS pick 30-40 in the second round..http://www.nba.com/bobcats/11_mock_drafts.html.then I guess maybe you can use the other link I sent you to fill out 41-60, if nothing coincides of course…I mean its late second round, it can’t be too different.

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  • #557860
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    samsung234
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    Yes

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  • #557917
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    samsung234
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    Yes

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  • #557858
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    CoachWyers
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    If you guys were ever on Draftexpress message boards when they were going I was CoachJon on there.  Ever since I stopped posting the boards have went dead over there.  I have never posted on these boards because when I first checked them out many people didn’t seem too informed, I may be wrong this was a long time ago.

      I follow the draft year a round, write for some websites occasionally doing evaluations/ scouting reports/ and rankings for junior college prospects and help many kids secure scholarships every year, help send players over to the Phillipines to play professionally in the PBA,  was a college head coach but am now a high school coach and athletic director.

    So I didn’t just come out of nowhere.  Bascially basketball is my life and job and I love it.

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  • #557915
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    CoachWyers
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    If you guys were ever on Draftexpress message boards when they were going I was CoachJon on there.  Ever since I stopped posting the boards have went dead over there.  I have never posted on these boards because when I first checked them out many people didn’t seem too informed, I may be wrong this was a long time ago.

      I follow the draft year a round, write for some websites occasionally doing evaluations/ scouting reports/ and rankings for junior college prospects and help many kids secure scholarships every year, help send players over to the Phillipines to play professionally in the PBA,  was a college head coach but am now a high school coach and athletic director.

    So I didn’t just come out of nowhere.  Bascially basketball is my life and job and I love it.

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  • #557862
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    paradigmn
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     So you are saying your arn’t NBADRAFT.NET’s version of Anthony Davis…lol….anyways I am relatively new to this site but from what I’ve gathered its definitely a good fourm to discuss basketball and gather information.  Of course there are always some nuckle heads that say crazy and offensive stuff at times, but for the most part it is a very useful and informative discussion fourm…glad to get some insight from an established basketball mind such as yourself…..and…ummm….are you hiring???…lol

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  • #557919
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    paradigmn
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     So you are saying your arn’t NBADRAFT.NET’s version of Anthony Davis…lol….anyways I am relatively new to this site but from what I’ve gathered its definitely a good fourm to discuss basketball and gather information.  Of course there are always some nuckle heads that say crazy and offensive stuff at times, but for the most part it is a very useful and informative discussion fourm…glad to get some insight from an established basketball mind such as yourself…..and…ummm….are you hiring???…lol

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  • #557864
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    kacey
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    Chad Ford is on the link. Merged three of them for the second round and guess on about two spots where those three links didn’t really have a consensus pick.

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  • #557921
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    kacey
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    Chad Ford is on the link. Merged three of them for the second round and guess on about two spots where those three links didn’t really have a consensus pick.

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  • #557866
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    kacey
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    CoachWyers,

    I remember seeing CoachJon on the DX boards. You use to post some of the predraft workouts.

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    • #557870
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      CoachWyers
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      Yes that was me I had reported on a few workouts I was helping out at. When Joe Abanussar first came out to California and formed Impact Basketball which he created (now huge in pre-draft workouts in Las Vegas and Los Angeles) I was at a few of the workouts helping out with the workouts.  One of his main guys had contacted me and wanted me to check out what they were doing. I was considering getting into that field and although they were doing great stuff and I love the draft and it would be amazing working with NBA guys I just couldn’t stop coaching.

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    • #557927
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      CoachWyers
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      Yes that was me I had reported on a few workouts I was helping out at. When Joe Abanussar first came out to California and formed Impact Basketball which he created (now huge in pre-draft workouts in Las Vegas and Los Angeles) I was at a few of the workouts helping out with the workouts.  One of his main guys had contacted me and wanted me to check out what they were doing. I was considering getting into that field and although they were doing great stuff and I love the draft and it would be amazing working with NBA guys I just couldn’t stop coaching.

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  • #557923
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    kacey
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    CoachWyers,

    I remember seeing CoachJon on the DX boards. You use to post some of the predraft workouts.

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  • #557868
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    QuazedUnicorn
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    I would very much like to see mine marked. If it’s not to much to ask. and memphis i agree how the heck did he get so many points for little posts

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  • #557925
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    QuazedUnicorn
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    I would very much like to see mine marked. If it’s not to much to ask. and memphis i agree how the heck did he get so many points for little posts

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  • #557877
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    samsung234
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    I anxiously wait for my results .

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  • #557933
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    samsung234
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    I anxiously wait for my results .

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  • #557906
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    samsung234
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    I got 9 picks right in the first round not 6. Kyrie Irving, Derrick Williams, Enes Kanter, Jan Vesely, Bismark Biyombo, Klay Thompson, Markieff Morris, Kawhi Leonard and Nikola Vucevic were are right picks by me. What’s my score now ? 

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  • #557962
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    samsung234
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    I got 9 picks right in the first round not 6. Kyrie Irving, Derrick Williams, Enes Kanter, Jan Vesely, Bismark Biyombo, Klay Thompson, Markieff Morris, Kawhi Leonard and Nikola Vucevic were are right picks by me. What’s my score now ? 

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  • #557932
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    Propaganda
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     yes

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  • #557989
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    Propaganda
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     yes

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  • #557934
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    j1232e
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    yes

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  • #557991
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    j1232e
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    yes

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  • #557936
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    4hff4f427
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    Can you do mine please?? Thanks a lot!

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  • #557993
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    4hff4f427
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    Can you do mine please?? Thanks a lot!

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  • #557948
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    OhCanada-
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    What is the criteria for scores.

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  • #558005
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    OhCanada-
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    What is the criteria for scores.

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  • #557954
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    NCarmean18
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    It would be most appreciated.

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  • #558011
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    NCarmean18
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    It would be most appreciated.

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  • #557959
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    neotheo89
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    if you could do mine please thtd be much appreciated im pretty sure i hit at least 100 so im satisfied 🙂

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  • #558015
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    neotheo89
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    if you could do mine please thtd be much appreciated im pretty sure i hit at least 100 so im satisfied 🙂

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  • #557982
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    JoeWolf1

     Thanks for calculating my score Jamie, it’s be sweet if I could join you in the winners’ circle, but I haven’t even gotten an email yet so I’d be surprised if I did.  Either way I beat Aran, Chad Smith and Jonathan Givony so that’s a pretty good feeling.

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  • #558039
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    JoeWolf1

     Thanks for calculating my score Jamie, it’s be sweet if I could join you in the winners’ circle, but I haven’t even gotten an email yet so I’d be surprised if I did.  Either way I beat Aran, Chad Smith and Jonathan Givony so that’s a pretty good feeling.

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  • #558169
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    Mr.BigShot
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    Please do mine

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  • #558229
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    Mr.BigShot
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    Please do mine

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  • #558185
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    kacey
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    Updated.

    @Samsung good catch. There shouldn’t be too many more messed up like yours was, if any. I didn’t have a formula going all the way down my spreadsheet, it was after I had to manually type in Chad Ford’s picks. 

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  • #558245
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    kacey
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    Updated.

    @Samsung good catch. There shouldn’t be too many more messed up like yours was, if any. I didn’t have a formula going all the way down my spreadsheet, it was after I had to manually type in Chad Ford’s picks. 

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  • #558188
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    aamir543
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    @Jamiey, when should we check back to see the scores?

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  • #558249
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    aamir543
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    @Jamiey, when should we check back to see the scores?

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  • #558220
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    mikeyvthedon
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    mikeyvthedon
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  • #558230
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    aamir543
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    Thanks.

    darn I was 5th………….. to last.

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  • #558292
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    aamir543
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    Thanks.

    darn I was 5th………….. to last.

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  • #558697
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    chenfei
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