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Im gonna need more that 3

Im gonna need more that 3 games to say anything on Wall.

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Mr. Knick, If Pierce isnt on

Mr. Knick, If Pierce isnt on that team, or KG, or Ray Allen, they dont make it. I can guarantee that. I feel like because Rondo is clearly the primary ball handler and distributer, you should take away 3 Hall of Famers, 2 off which were most known for their top 10 skill in the league

Ray Allen and Paul Pierce were never considered top 10 players from what I can remember. Rondo is the best passer, defender and has the most experience of any PG in the East and he's probably the 3rd best passer overall in the NBA.

If I had to build a team today, I'm picking Rondo. I feel if I can get some solid shooters, smart players around him- I can win a title. In fact, I can build a legit team around Rondo that could win a title.

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Thibodeau

What exactly was the point he was making by not putting in Rose with like 4 minutes left in the game? I know the players on the floor had gotten them on a decent run, but as soon as Felton made that 3 to put the Knicks up by 11, how does he not put in D-Rose? The crowd was chanting and all, and was he trying to assert his indifference to their needs? Either way, that is pretty bad coaching in my book. I am all about leaving hot line-ups on the floor, but in crunch time, you have to have Derrick Rose out there, and more than likely should have had Noah out there as well. I did not see Asik/Watson doing anything close to what those players could do. Very weird sequence there, I wonder what Tom Thibodeau's excuse is. To me, it almost seemed like a cop out and giving the game away.

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you put Rose on the Celtics

you put Rose on the Celtics though and they don't win a championship, he just wouldn't fit in with those guys cause he's a scorer first, Rondo is the perfect fit for the Celtics.

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Do you honestly believe that

Do you honestly believe that if Rose were on the Celtics, they wouldn't win a title? You're lying to yourself.

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I'm not, he isn't the right

I'm not, he isn't the right fit for that team, Rose could not distribute it to all those guys and make them all happy, their offense wouldn't run as smooth. Rose is really good but he needs to be the go to guy on his team and he wouldn't be on the Celtics.

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Rose doesn't *need* to be the

Rose doesn't *need* to be the go-to guy. He's carrying the scoring load because he has to. Who else on the Bulls is capable of getting their own shot, etc consistently?

He's not the passer or playmaker that Rondo is, BUT he's unselfish and more than capable of creating for his teammates, etc.

With the way Rose gets into the lane, Allen would get even more open attempts. KG would see even more wide open weakside jumpers. People act like Rose can't pass the ball, which is just confusing to me.

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You could start Nate Robinson

You could start Nate Robinson or Delonte West and the Celtics would still make the playoffs. That's how good that team is.

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You could, but they probably

You could, but they probably won't win a championship. The thing with Rose is you don't know if he'd be willing to only average say 15 ppg to better his teammates because up to this point in his career he's had to score. If he was put in a position like the Celtics where he didn't have to, you don't no how that would affect him, would he be as effective?

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Rose has the potential to

Rose has the potential to leap frog Paul and Williams in a few seasons because he can take over games and score at will plus he can pass. There are things he needs to improve on. Wall right now is on a better pace than what Rose did and if he keeps at his present pace, he will overtake Rose sometime next year but that is if he keeps at his current pace. I am sure the turnovers will go down as he learns his team. Wiz have a lot of young and inexpierence(can't spell tonight) players. Also if you replace Rondo with Rose, Celtics still win and maybe win in fewer games. Rondo had nothing from offense during those Finals and a lot of times he did not play in the 4th. The Rondo now and last year is better but they have yet to win anything and he still lacks offensive skills. Lakers are just in their way I guess.

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I don't think he'd have one

I don't think he'd have one problem. Rose is as humble and unselfish as they come.

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Rose could average more

Rose could average more assists if he played with 3 Hall of Famers too and now he has 4 Hall of Famers. I like Rondo because he is a nice player and can pass and play mad D but even with his flaws Rose would be the tougher match up and better player to have on your team. Celtics lose a lot games because of offense and Rose would have give Lakers headaches. Lakers are my team but I am aware of their weaknesses

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If you put a scoring PG on

If you put a scoring PG on the Celtics it would ruin them cause the Big Three wouldn't get their shots and that offense would be out of rhythm. Rondo has the ability to score but he doesn't because he knows he helps his team by passing, running the offense, and playing great defense.

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Rose is not just a scoring

Rose is not just a scoring Point guard. People act like he can't pass. He is forced to score on the Bulls because right now they don't have many people he can pass it to that will finish. Boozer is hurt. Noah has limited range. Korver can shoot but is limited because of bad defense that kills his playing time.

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I completely agree dude. Rose is a better player. He is an underrated passer and can take over a game. Rondo is a great player, but he is a non existent shooter and HE IS a liability in the 4th quarter when his teammates jumpers aren't going in.

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People act like Rose can not

People act like Rose can not pass at all when in fact he is a very good passer. Don't act like rondo is so much better of a passer because he can't score at will. Rose would get easier passes because he can score. Team would not guard him the same way the do Rondo which would open up passing lanes and driving lanes. Rondo still gets his passes no doubt because he is very quick and savy but so is Rose. All Rondo thinks most of the time is pass. Rose has to do whatever it takes to win even if that means scoring and taking over offensively all by himself. Rondo does not have to do this. We will find out what Rondo is really made of when the big 3 get too old and he has some young players and has to take over some games. I doubt Celtics let it get that bad though.

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I'd like to see Rose play

I'd like to see Rose play with some better players cause I'm still not sure he'd be willing to sacrifice his scoring to get his teammates involved, he hasn't had the opportunity so I don't know but I don't think it go so well.

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Rondo is a great point guard,

Rondo is a great point guard, but he can't put the ball in the basket. He's a worse shooter than Jason Kidd was during his young days. Kidd was at least a decent free-throw shooter and not a liability from there in the fourth quarter.

Rondo is a franchise point guard, but he's not somebody you build your team around. He's not a center piece.

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Rondo can score, he is great

Rondo can score, he is great at driving to the basket, even without a jumpshot he could score if he wanted to. He doesn't because it's not beneficial to his team and that's what makes a great PG, sacrifing your stats for the team.

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