[valentine]

I was wondering, who do you all think got the better of the Lee- Randolph deal, and why? I believe the knicks did, and it’s not even close IMHO. Yes, the Warriors got a 20-10 guy, but the knicks essentially replaced lee with Amare, and we all know that Amare is better. Also, the knicks received Randolph who is only 21 and has UNLIMITED potential. And everybody seems to be forgetting about the other two players in the deal, Turiaf and Azubuike. Turiaf won’t give you alot offensively, but he rebounds well and brings heart and energy and would be a perfect guy to bring off the knicks bench. Azubuike is a scorer who on his career averages 10 ppg and shoots 40 percent from behind the arc. The knicks will benefit more from this deal i think. I also liked the knicks draft, they got a three point ace who will be instant offense off the bench (Andy Rautins) and Landry Fields, who must be a baller because if you average 22 and 9 in a major d-1 conference, you got SKILL. They also got Jerome Jordan, who is a true 7′ footer who can block shots, rebound, and give you a lil offense. I am not a knicks fan btw, i am a thunder fan

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

Anthony Randolph’s potential is limited by him not being that bright of a player. He is also limited by having the physical strength of a refugee. Please don’t make this guy out to be anything special. He can probably recreate what Boris Diaw did under D’Antoni, which will make Knick fans think he is a star, but that really only means he is just an average NBA player.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

He is only 21. He will be an above average nba player. he does need to bulk up, and he will always be thin, but he does rebound and has excellent coordination for a player who is nearly 7 ft. He will improve as a player. He should improve his shot, and he could eventually be an all star. I’m not saying he definitely will be an all star, and I doubt he will be an all star to soon, but he has a very unique skill set.

[sheltwon3Participant]

Kevin Durant, Chris Bosh, and KG early years were just as skinny. Randolph is young so his body will develop. Also I seen him lifting weights, and he is not as weak as you perceptions of him tell you. He got hurt last year and Donnie Nelson does not know how to use him. Judge him based on what he does for the Knicks where he should get mad opportunity to shine. Also if you really want to learn it you can gain basketball knowledge and they normally comes with experience. It took Jermaine O’neal some time to get it as well as other players who we celebrate as being NBA ready.

He ceiling still has not limits but like everyone it depend on him and if he wants to be great or just good.

[catoosanumber22]

bothteamsplayed hard do you know anything about basketball?

[catoosanumber22]

bothteamsplayed hard do you know anything about basketball?

[nateoak10Participant]

NY ripped us off..

Buike is a good 15 a night, Ronny is one of the best shot blockers in the NBA AND Ant will be a star. Mark my words, the kid didn’t get a fair chance with Nelson. Whenever he played he beasted and was taken out for no reason to put it Vlad…..

Looking at per36 type stats, Lee and Randolph rebounding wise are nearly identical and AR is one of the best shot blockers in the NBA and is dripping with superstar potential. Bulk up? He’s up to 230 which is about where KG was in his prime

[stanford hoops]

unlimited potential?..do you know anything about basketball?..and yeah kg and durant were skinny but both were wayyy better then randoplh, plus you never heard there team saying either guys werent hard workers

[doubledribblerParticipant]

Both KG and Durant have high basketball IQs. Potentially is nice, but some guys don’t have the heart, determination or the basketball IQ to make full use of their natural abilities. Anyone that looks around would notice that most of the old guys in the league are still around because they are bright guys as far as basketball goes. Steve Nash is slow and there is nothing athletic about him on the basketball court, but the guy excels. Antonio McDyess used to be pretty nice. He’s had some major surgeries and has since reinvented his game, which part of that has to do with him working hard to recover and he can maintain a level of play because he plays smart. Gerald Green is an excellent example of low IQ guy. Everyone sees the talent, but he just can’t do anything with it. There is only so much pushing and coaching up anyone can do.

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

Anthony Randolph’s potential is limited by him not being that bright of a player. He is also limited by having the physical strength of a refugee. Please don’t make this guy out to be anything special. He can probably recreate what Boris Diaw did under D’Antoni, which will make Knick fans think he is a star, but that really only means he is just an average NBA player.

I’m sorry but Come On Son. That’s some old BS BTPH. I have to call you a hater now. How is Randolph unintelligent? If he is, then he must be on of the best idiots off the bench in the NBA last season. He was on pace to have a great SOPHOMORE season. He averaged 11 points, 6.5 rebounds and 1.5 blocks while playing only 22 mpg. Had he stayed healthy, he would have been talked about as on of these “Blossoming” players going into his 3rd season. He’s also going into a system where he could be the 3rd option scoring wise. It’s going to be most likely Amare, Gallo and then Randolph. In Golden State, he had Monta Ellis who scores 1st, scores 2nd and passes 3rd. He should be able to get some more scoring opps and if he starts and stays healthy, expect his rebounds to go up as well.

I would have let it slide if you question is health because he gets injured alot but he won’t be good because he’s not smart? Come on Son, get the fuck outta here with that bullshit.

[musubimanParticipant]

I’ve been following the GSW since 1979…so believe me when I tell you I am the epitome of “long-suffering Warriors Fan”. And, of course, Randolph going on to have an all-star career is certainly not without precedent. There have been a number, nay, a wave of former Warriors who have gone on to fulfill their all-star potential upon leaving our hallowed organization.

That being said, I have to believe that the Warriors have seen something in the past two years that have given them pause on Randolph’s career. Every single person has used superlatives and hyperbole to describe Randolph’s potential. This young man has done some spectacular jump out of your chair plays that are the hallmark of a very special player. The occasional spectacular play has allowed many of us to look past the many bonehead plays that typically come with very very young players. After having worked closely with the young man over two years, I think that the GSW organization has seen something in the young man that has given them pause (poor attitude, poor work ethic, a lack of maturity that they feel may not improve or may not improve for a very long period of time).

I have no inside knowledge of this…but if Randolph had shown even a HINT of the ability to realize a fraction of his potential, I can’t believe the organization would even consider trading him. If they have seen something that has given them reservations, than this would be the BEST time to trade him when his trade value is at its highest.

So with that said, the merits of this trade can certainly be debated on forums (such as this one)…but this trade will not and cannot be determined for at least 2-4 years (more the later than the former). If Randolph is a bust or just becomes a mediocre player, than this was a very good trade. If he goes on to become an all star and hall of fame career…well then obviously, it was a bad, a very bad trade.

Time will tell… But please, don’t let me stop your conjecture…

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