Next sure fire #1 pick?
When/Who do you guys think the next unquestionable number 1 pick will be? There has been Rose and Irving over the last few years.
2005 - CP3 was the 4th pick.
2006 - Has Rondo and Aldridge as 2nd and 21st pick.
2007 - Durant!!!
2009 - To me the best player in that draft was James Harden.
2010 - It is looking more and more like George and Hayward are the players out of this draft. Favors and Monroe will not be far behind.
2012 - This one is fresh, but Lillard and Drummond could prove better than Davis.
Edit: I read the title wrong, I think for sure Wiggens
My predictions for the #1 pick;
Wiggins. He's one of those guys that's on his own level.
Surely 2008 you could argue Russell Westbrook could end up having a better career than Derrick Rose, at the moment Westbrook and Rose is closer than Griffin and Harden, for the career they've had to this point.
D-Rose MVP at 22yo's I think that he was the best call. I don't think it is closer between Westbrook and Rose because Rose is better in my scenario, whereas Harden to me is a better player than Griffin is.
What I am really saying is Westbrook is playing out of his mind at the minute, how do we know Rose will ever return to his old level, I will probably get negged for this but I would say right now I think Westbrook will have a better career than Rose. Whereas at the moment Griffin has been consistently brilliant since he came in the league, Harden has shown he has massive potential this year but he needs to do it more consistently before he can be called the best player from that draft, which also had Stephen Curry, Ricky Rubio and Jrue Holiday who all have a chance to be really special.
I get what you are saying, I guess the fact would be seeing Westbrook without Durant to really get an accurate gauge. Completely forgot about Curry he is for sure right there with Harden and Griffin, I wouldn't count Rubio or Holiday as they are both on losing teams.
2010 Draft... I think Demarcus Cousins has been the best player so far out of that draft. George is having his best season but you cant overlook what Cousins has done stat wise since he's been in the league, plus he's arguably the most TALENTED Center in the league right now and probably for years to come.
Cousins is a down-right idiot, to be honest it takes more than talent to become a great player. Cousins, Favors and George were probably the most talented (most potential) players in that draft, however George and Favors have been working their butts off and Cousins has been acting like a fool. George and Favors will be monsters for years to come, not too mention Hayward and Monroe as well.
The Kings could be a fringe play-off team if Cousins was even 80% on task, but it is apparent that he is not, I think he has amazing talent he just is going to be one of those guys that gets it at like 30. (Zach Randolph for example)
Ok, for one... I dont think calling him an idiot is fair. You can say he's young and let his emotions get the best of him. HE has been targeted alot in the NBA because of his HIGH SCHOOL reputation. Refs are looking to T him up witht he slightest bit of emotion he has. HE got criticized because he wouldnt back down to Tim Duncan. You cant hold stuff like that against him. But to your point, he is immature and has been at fault several times in his career.
On the other hand, that Kings roster is terrible. If Cousins was on task or not, they still wouldnt come close to making the playoffs! He is the only bright spot on the roster. As far as him in comparing to George and Favors, he was always better than Favors in my opinion. Favors was only a better athlete than Cousins coming out. Cousins is a much better talent. He has the full skill set. Cousins has gotten better each year so you cant talk as if he hasnt worked his butt off. You cant name a more talented Center in the league than Cousins. George is the only person out of that draft right now along with Cousins who look to be sure fire Superstars. Hayward, great player but will never be a superstar. Favors may be a superstar or may not. Monroe wont be a Superstar. George heading to Superstar status in the next few years if he keeps it up. Cousins will be a top 5 Center and constantly battle Dwight for the number one spot for a years.
Being emotional is one thing i.e Noah, but being an idiot is another. Like when he got a technical for continually going at the ref and then abusing him is something an idiot would do, not an emotional person.
Saying he will be Top 5 is not really saying much to me, it is not as though he is at Point Guard where there is stupid amounts of talent. Give me Dwight Howard, Brook Lopez, Greg Monroe, Marc Gasol, Al Horford, Enes Kanter going forward over Cousins. If Cousins is so talented he should already be a top 5 talent at C as it is not overly strong.
If your talking about potential i think it would be naive to leave out John "the pope" Wall. Probably the most potential out of that class.
Sort of disappointing that he hasn't preformed YET.
Festar35 so you're saying that in your opinion James Harden is better than Blake Griffin as you listed Harden as the clear cut number one from his draft.
Personally I like Harden, but I'd rather have Griffin.
No I mean that I feel Harden is a better player than Griffin or at least on the same level. The thing I am trying to point out is that the number 1 pick is not the super-star and can't miss prospect. Like Irving, Rose and James have been.
What's kinda funny is that Rose and Irving weren't sure-fire #1 picks when they entered the draft because of a couple of tweener forwards.
Beasley and Williams... beat me to it.
The Canadian prodigy is the next big thing and will be the number one pick. Beyond Wiggins and future draft classes I haven't heard of anyone being hyped up like Wiggins. The Australian, Ben Simmons shows a great deal of promise but not enough for me to tout him as the undeniable number one pick though.
And no Rose and Irving were not clear cut picks, Turnip sums it up brilliantly.
As mentioned Wiggins is a clear cut number one without a doubt, however Jabari Parker is also a #1 pick level prospect so that's where it get's tricky.
Also Rose and Irving weren't clear cut number ones going into the draft.
James Harden isn't on Blake's level of impacting a game, franchise, and league. Don't get the number's confused, Blake is a dominate player. Call him a dunker all you want, he turned around the worse franchise in the league before CP3 arrived and just had a triple double last night.
While Lillard and Drummond could prove better then Davis, Davis was the clear cut number one pick and is still the best prospect with the highest upside from that class.
Gordon Hayward....really?...I like him a lot but let's be serious here, he's not better then George, Cousins, Monroe, Wall or even Turner.
With reagrds to Griffin, they still didn't make the play-offs until Paul showed up and Harden has really put Houston in a great position to be a contender for years to come. I like the Rockets team, but they have nowhere near the level of talent of Clippers, but has them in the play-off hunt.
It is tough to throw out the switch the teams the players are on as they are vastly different players and positions, however I can't see Griffin taking a team with equal talent of Houston to the play-offs.
With Hayward, I don't know. There is just something about him, he reminds me of a bigger Manu, in the fact he can score with awesome efficiency and has solid all-around game. As I type this I am reminded that Manu was clutch but also never the guy with Duncan and Parker there as well. So potentially got carried away, but we will see him in at least 1 All-Star game I am sure.
To me Drummond has more upside.
I think if you put Blake Griffin on the Rockets then Blake is a top 3 MVP candidate and averaging 25 ppg, 12 rpg, and 4apg, on there uptempo style attack. Blakes numbers have been dumbed down in the last 2 years. But that's just my opinion, somewhere along the line I think Blake has gotten underrated because of his propensity to always go for the highest % shot which is a dunk.
And I agree Hayward does remind me of a taller Manu, however I wouldn't say he's an efficient scorer yet at all.
I just feel that he needs to add more to his game, Harden generally doesn't have any glaring weaknesses. Both need work on the defensive end of the floor no doubt, but offensively and with reagards to intangibles it is close. As I said IMO I prefer Harden, but I mean if my Pacers had either of them I would be stupidly happy.
i think the only sure fire #1 pick is wiggins, because hes next in line and so awesome already...guys ranked #1 in 2014,2015 still have time to rise/fall. wiggins is pretty much far and away the only #1 choice for june 2014s draft
There is none next year. Wiggins has the most potential but he is far from a close to finished product because his jumper still needs work and his handles as well. Julius Randle is the only player in his class with no real flaws for his position and I expect to have a Beasley type freshman year. Wiggins still might be the top pick because of potential but Randle will have e better freshman season because he will be the hardest to match up with in year one
Andrew Wiggins and/or Jabari Parker. As two franchise caliber talents, those guys are the first two picks taken off the draft board next year.
Its funny, I like Wiggins A LOT but I think a lot of people on here have just seen highlight tapes and think this guy just stands above everyone and is no doubt the next messiah of basketball. Derrick Rose wasn't even projected to go #1 until late in his college season, and by the draft it was a sure fire thing. I'm just saying, its not impossible for Parker to be a better collegiate player than him and somehow leap him for the #1 pick. Unlikely, but lets see Wiggins do it against some real competition before he's the next LeBron James.
Remember 2006-2007, when ALL the hype was for Oden, and none was for Durant?