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Next Great SG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rao1q3Mhad8
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Rashad Vaughn,-- one of my faves.


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The first one is a dunking

The first one is a dunking mix only.
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.B - E - A - S - T --- M - O

.B - E - A - S - T --- M - O - D - E
13 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 7 --- /\/\ - 0 - |) - 3
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He's obviously pretty good.

He's obviously pretty good. #2 SG in the nation......

But stating him as the next best SG already? A little far fetched.

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I never said 'next best'

I never said 'next best' SG.
I said next great SG, and i meant prospect.

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What the hell is.... 13 - 3 -

What the hell is....

13 - 3 - 4 - 5 - 7 --- /\/\ - 0 - |) - 3

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Don't act like you can't read

Don't act like you can't read 1337 speak. ;)

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I says "beast mode" if you

I says "beast mode" if you look at it with one eye closed in a dark room, naked, through a mirror, while you're exhausted.

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Yes, hence my reference to

Yes, hence my reference to 1337(leet/elite) speak. Pretty common among gamers/hackers and has been around since the 90s.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=1337%20speak

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Joey GladStone

It's the streak of negatives he's about to receive for this post lol

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I hate YouTube Mixtapes

We could seriously edit one of ourselves and look like legit prospects, not saying this kid isn't but some non biased highlights would be a welcome sight, everyone on these BS mixtapes looks like the Next Big Thing, case in point Aquille Carr

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Dunks?

That's it? No crossover, jump shots, anything? And this makes him great? Weak

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He reminds me of Trey Burke,

He reminds me of Trey Burke, something about the way he moves with the ball. I don't think he'll be great though, but who knows.

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Vaughn

I saw him play last month... he has range on his shot from the volley ball line. Don't know if he has a brain in his head... but he can shoot ball from Jimmer distance and he's got great height/length for a SG... and as an added bonus Syrian snipers have been seen wearing Cooper Hawk Sweatshirts the same as Rashad.

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DaJuan Wagner

Dajuan Wagner was also considered as great but what makes a player great is when he performs over time. In 10 years, we may say he is great but for now, he looks like a very good player. Time is the only judge of greatness.

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For some reason any time i

For some reason any time i post a thread people always try to twist my words to make me look stupid. NEVER FAILS.
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FatandFurious used to be one of my favorite posters, now all he does is b!tch at me.
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To person that siaid only dunks... keep watching the videos. He's clearly not all about dunks.

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Nico...

At this point Vaughn is just a 17 yr old kid... It's not a knew thing on this site to speak about young players or to use a bit of hyperbole. The fact is the kid is he's a raw tall athlete that like all 17 yr olds needs to learn the game but he has potential that exceeds any Minnesota kid in recent memory and that includes Tyus Jones..

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On my last top 10 I said i

On my last top 10 I said i would take Vaughn 3rd, after Jahlil and Karl Towns.
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Top 5
1- Karl Towns
2- Jahlil
3- Rashad Vaughn
4- Tyus Jones
5- Justise Winslow

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It happens...

It happens to often on this site that a person takes their time and effort to create a topic only to have 14 yr olds ruin what could've been a learning experience by &$#%#&@! all over it with their negativity.

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OP, tell me what you think of

OP, tell me what you think of his shot selection, floor game, bball IQ and defense.

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?????

He thinks his skills will more fully develope as he matures past highschool ball. Another 14 yr old?

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Doesn't mean you can't grade

Doesn't mean you can't grade those aspects of a prospect's game at any juncture. The BEST prospects are the ones who are not only supremely talented but are also advanced mentally.

and your attempts at being condescending are silly.

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Like a clown suit?

What you said has merit in some instances... however until Vaughn is challenged in a game you won't be seeing a true reflection of how smart or talented he is.

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Not true. For instance, a

Not true. For instance, a player can display good shot selection any time he steps onto the floor. You already touched on it in an earlier post in this thread. Vaughn's shot selection can be wild...like really wild.
He gets challenged every summer in AAU and his HS team is far from perfect (according to maxpreps, his team has lost 5 times, including to Tyus Jones' Apple Valley team...which BTW can still be seen on HighSchoolCube) so he has had some meaningful competition.

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this kid is to xoung to tell,

this kid is to xoung to tell, but remeber ths name: Luka Doncic.

turned 14 few days ago, so only time will tell how he will develope. I had chance to watch him dominating 2 year older competition and quite athletic one. He is most skilled 13 year old I saw and who beside his skills also alredy knows how to use that in game

here is his video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mIHUirZkjhI

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When I speak of him being challenged I mean guarded 1 on 1. I They can throw everybody on the team at him or run traps or zones against him but their isn't a single player that can challenge/push him playing man defense.

His shot selection was fine from what I witnessed since just about everything he put up went in. He took over when ever he deemed it necessary. There were many quality player on the floor since both were good teams but Vaughn was by far the best player. Because basketball is a team game Cooper stills manages to lose on occasion even with Vaughn.

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Those tactics can be used at

Those tactics can be used at any level and what he's seeing right now, just like any elite player in HS, can make the player become a better decision maker. If they don't respond to those defensive tactics then that player just might be a poor decision maker.

His shot selection was "fine" yet, you're not sure "if he has a brain in his head?" Every shot that goes in isn't a good one. Those same bad shots that went in will be harder to make vs tougher competition. Those bad shots will get him benched in the future too when the stakes and competition are higher. Bad shot selection is a difficult habit to break because it is a function of bad decision making. Some players are just bad decision makers who only marginally improve in those areas. Guys like Brandon Jennings, Austin Rivers, Tyreke Evans, Monta Ellis, JR Smith, Scotty Hopson, Michael Beasley, Brandon Knight were all highly touted blue chippers who showed questionable shot selection in their early stages as prospects and still struggle with that aspect today. They weren't challenged 1 on 1 on most nights in HS either.

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Siggy...

What I'm referring to is that you'll have to guess/project how good a player might become because he never was pushed to the point where they had to play their best. If you were never an athlete you'll just have to take my word for it.

It's the reason many pro players in any sport play their best against the best players in the league/world. You can't measure that...

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And what I'm saying is that

And what I'm saying is that certain habits and immeasurables can be a part of a player's game regardless of the competition. Using your rationale, scouts should only be looking at skill and physical talent at the HS stage. I disagree. There are plenty of prospects who are on the same plain athletically and talent-wise, its the other stuff that separates the good from great. The players who are supremely talented and "get it" at an early age have a leg up on a competition. Case in point: Kyrie vs Brandon Knight or Selby, Beal vs Rivers, Holiday vs Jennings, Monroe vs Mullens, etc, with the former showing better basketball instincts at the same stage than the latter.

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Siggy...

What I'm referring to is that you'll have to guess/project how good a player might become because he never was pushed to the point where they had to play their best. If you were never an athlete you'll just have to take my word for it.

It's the reason many pro players in any sport play their best against the best players in the league/world. You can't measure that...

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