[ag-pennypackerParticipant]

I read an article on ESPN today that said the Knicks were willing to trade either Anthony Randolph or Danilo Gallinari but not both for Carmelo Anthony. Am I the only one that thinks this is insane. If the Knicks were able to get Stoudamire and Anthony on the same team they will easily be able to build around that, people will want to go there and they will have two superstars. Even though I like Randolph and Gallinari they are no where close to Carmelo. It seems to me like the Knicks are unwilling to make a bigger offer because they think the Nuggets are desperate. That may be the case but that doesn’t mean they can’t trade him somewhere else. I just can’t believe the Knicks wouldn’t give up those two guys for Carmelo Anthony.

[Toronto16Participant]

If I’m the Knicks, I’d trade both in a heartbeat for Melo. Do they really think Gallo and Randolph make the Knicks as relevant as Melo would? Stoudemire and Melo, plus a play making PG like Felton who would get them the ball is a great team.

[sammybuckeye13Participant]

You’d still have a fine, aggressive wing combo in Azubuike/Chandler and a tough defensive center in Turiaf. Not like they’ll be left with nothing. They’re crazy if they don’t give up both.

[joecheck88Participant]

i wouldnt give up randolph, he can play the 3 4 and 5 spots effectively and is a good rebounder and shot blocker. but either way i dont think randolph and gallinari and curry are enough to get melo anyway. i dont think melo goes to ny unless he flat out signs there next summer.

[ag-pennypackerParticipant]

of Gallinari, Randolph, and Curry is better than any offer I’ve heard talked about yet. The Nets sound like they have the best off in so far; Favors, Murphy and some picks. I’d rather have Gallinari, Randolph, and Curry personally than the Nets offer; Gallinari and Randolph are good building blocks, better than Favors and picks in my opinion and Curry brings them pretty much what Murphy brings them an expiring contract. The Bulls sound like they are the other major player and even if they included J. Noah I’d still rather have Gallinari, Randolph, and Curry rather than something like Deng, Noah, and picks. The Knicks should really be able to get C. Anthony if they want him, but they wouldn’t be able to do it without giving both Gallinari and Randolph.

[Mr. 19134Participant]

Yeah that is the best offer I’ve heard too. I thought the Bulls were crazy. I like Dani and Randolph and think they would make an excellent and exciting forward tandem. Nowhere near as exciting as Melo and Stat. Thats something NY should be thinking about.

[joecheck88Participant]

but melo by himself isnt enough. to be honest the knicks have dug themselves into a whole with giving away draft picks. the only young talent they have is gallinari and randolph and maybe chandler. but they all play the same position. even if they got melo to go along with stat, they still wouldnt be a championship team. u cant give up all your young guys, its not the recipe for success. trade 1 but not both. if denver wants both i dont do the deal. i dont care if its for melo. if they had more young talent i would do it but they dont. just try to sign melo next summer.

[HitsterParticipant]

If they gave up both and maybe only one pick then I could see it being worthwhile but if you consider that Randolph cannot be traded to 15th December then maybe hold fire to next summer and try to get him or wait until deadline day approaches when the value of Curry’s expiring contract really kicks in and you could maybe get Melo for one of the above, a pick and Curry.

I think the Nets offer with Favours, a pick and Murphy is better than what the Knicks can offer unless they include both Gallinari and Randolph as Favours probably now ranks ahead of Gallinari and well ahead of Randolph and Murphy will actually give you some production whilst Curry won’t.

The Knicks don’t have to be rash but need to keep an eye on what happening with Melo as he could be traded on somewhere else and then like it there.

They will have a fair pit of salary space next summer once Curry comes off the wage bill and will be able to add extra roster depth via FA market as the team with STAT and any other major star they can get becomes ever more attractive.

They may not have room to add that many players via the draft if they do have to give extra picks up but with their resources they can always buy a first round pick if required.

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

As a Knicks fan, I’m not breaking the bank for Melo.

The fact is resource wise, this team is in debt. I don’t think New York should kill themselves for Melo. Even with Melo and Stoudemire: The Knicks are like a 50 win team in the East at best.

[butidonthavemoney]

I’m a big fan of Gallo, so this is probably biased…

But I wouldn’t pull the trigger on that deal.

If the Knicks are patient, they could end up with Felton, Gallo, Melo, Stoudemire, and a little cap room.

[butidonthavemoney]

What Mr.Knick said.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

“Even with Melo and Stoudemire: The Knicks are like a 50 win team in the East at best.”

New York spent $135 million to go from a 29-win team to probably a 39-win team, and there are Knicks fans who would scoff at becoming possibly a 50-win team by the hypothetical one-sided proposal of dealing young mediocrity for a top ten talent in the league.

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

“New York spent $135 million to go from a 29-win team to probably a 39-win team, and there are Knicks fans who would scoff at becoming possibly a 50-win team by the hypothetical one-sided proposal of dealing young mediocrity for a top ten talent in the league”

I didn’t scoff at it since your nitpicking. I rather not go into deeper debt ( draft picks and players ) while just building around Amare Stoudemire and Carmelo Anthony. If I could get Carmelo in FA without giving up players, I’m cool with it but trading these players and picks for him at this point is foolish to me.

Also, the Knicks been on ton of lopsided deals. Zach Randolph for Channing Frye? Eddy Curry and Jamal Crawford for a couple of picks? Starbury for a future 1st? Were steals considering that people believe those picks wouldn’t matter since they were gonna be in the 20’s. Those picks were top 10 EVERYTIME. They got Antonio McDyess for a injured Camby, old Jackson and a rookie called Nene Halario. That was a steal at the time too for NY because the thought was McDyess was 100%. Meanwhile Camby won 2 rebounding titles and Nene is a top 15 big in the NBA

Let’s slow down before we call anything a steal.

[PlatypusParticipant]

Knicks probably want Chandler, Randolph and Curry and picks or Chandler, Gallo, Curry, and picks

they probably wont get it though

[ag-pennypackerParticipant]

Melo isn’t going to be there when the summer rolls around. The Nuggets will trade him and the team trading for him will want to sign him to an extension. That is what the team would want and that is what Melo would want. Why do you think he’s pushing the issue? He wants that extension before the collective bargaining agreement is changed. The Knicks will not be able to get Melo if they do not trade Randolph and Gallinari. If they got Melo and Stat on their team they could still sign a very good player and during free agency, because everyone would want to sign with them. Melo is worth more than even just his own value he also brings with him the ability to sign others.

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

The Nuggets will trade him and the team trading for him will want to sign him to an extension

I disagree. What if he goes to a team who he doesn’t wanna sign a extension with?

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

Mostly because neither of those offers do anything to help the Nuggets rebuild.

I find it incredibly amusing that most rational people can see that of all the teams bidding for Melo that the Knicks have the least attractive offer that they can put forth, yet Knick fans would still have one believe that they wouldn’t want to part with what little they have.

[ag-pennypackerParticipant]

would a team want to trade what it is going to take to get Carmelo Anthony just to let him go? They would have to trade a lot of young talent. No team is trading for Melo unless he agrees to sign an extension as part of the deal.

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

I wouldn’t say no to a Melo deal, I just would be worried about what we gave up.

If Melo is a knick tomorrow, I wouldn’t be like "No we gave up too much" but I would be worried a little bit in the back of my mind.

[stanford hoops]

@trinajoe stop saying randolph can play the 3,4,5 spot effectivley when he hasnt proven he can do that at all yet  have you even watched him?

he struggles as a three and four and actually played better playing the five because of the mismatch he caused

im actually suprised that knicks fans have been low key on getting melo lately

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