New Rumors & Trade Talk
CBSSports.com has learned that the Bulls and Pistons may yet revisit Detroit's agreement with Ben Gordon and instead investigate a sign-and-trade that would send Allen Iverson to Chicago.
Discussions have not yet reached the highest levels of both organizations, but the revised look at how Gordon goes from Chicago to Detroit would benefit Gordon and the Bulls. Gordon would get an extra year, and thus more money, by signing with the Bulls and getting traded. The Bulls, who currently are getting nothing for losing him, would get Iverson -- a fading future Hall of Famer who would get to finish his career in a major market as long as he's willing to accept a secondary role.
It's a farfetched scenario, and not everyone involved would be on board -- particularly the Pistons. The major sticking point would be how to sweeten the deal for Detroit, which would only consider such an option if it would provide significant cap savings. The Pistons took themselves out of the 2010 free-agent sweepstakes by agreeing to terms with Gordon and Charlie Villanueva on the first day of the free-agent negotiating period. Those agreements are not binding until July 8, when the league-mandated moratorium is lifted and the league and players association agree on the salary cap and luxury tax for the 2009-10 season.
The Heat also are interested in Iverson and he likes the idea of playing there too. Iverson, 34, reportedly has only had mild discussions with the Miami Heat since the free agency period began Wednesday.
The Grizzlies seem to be intrigued by Iverson as well. However, it is unclear what they want to pay him and they are only interested if he is willing to come off the bench. Iverson wants to play for Memphis..I'm not sure why. Seems like a bad fit all around in my eyes.
Morris Almond apparently will a be a Knick in the near future. (seems like a good pickup for New York)
Marbury is more likely to leave Boston now. (I thought he would stay there, it will be interesting to see where he ends up)
Tip-ins: Reports that the Grizzlies offered David Lee a multiyear deal ranging from $50 million to $60 million were news to Lee's agent, Mark Bartelstein. Did the Griz contact Bartelstein this week? Yes. But Bartelstein said he never talked contract specifics with the team. "All of the reports about money and years are not true," Bartelstein said. "We never got to that point. We talked only conceptually."
Raptors have offered Marion a three year deal worth somewhere between 18 to 21 million. Marion won't get more than that from another team. Expect him to stay in Toronto.
The Cavaliers, who lost out on Ron Artest and Trevor Ariza, called the Raptors Thursday to inquire about a sign-and-trade for Parker.
Hedo is probably headed to Portland. The Raptors seem likely to sign Marion so they can't afford him & Hedo.
The Cavs have not shown any interest in Rasheed so far.
Ariza had a big deal with Toronto but decided to go to Houston instead, leaving a lot of money on the table.
Things could be moving quickly for Grant Hill, Antonio McDyess, and Anthony Parker, who are on the Celtics’ list. Hill went to meet with the Knicks, and could rejoin Mike D’Antoni, who coached him in Phoenix. McDyess hoped to remain with Detroit, but the acquisition of Villanueva has caused him to become more aggressive in pursuing other options. Parker is likely to leave Toronto, possibly for Europe. He is high on Real Madrid’s shopping list.
Rasheed Wallace apparently will decide between Boston, Orlando, & San Antonio. (I think he is going to Boston but any of those teams would be a good fit for Wallace)
Another league source said the Cavs have contacted Linas Kleiza. The 24 year old is the type of stretch big man the Cavs have been interested in.
Kidd's decision is one of the top stories of the first week of free agency. One of his friends, former Nets teammate Richard Jefferson, suggested that Kidd will choose New York. "He's gonna be a Knick," Jefferson said on "The Dan Patrick Show."
If Kidd turns down the Knicks' offer - believed to be three guaranteed years at the mid-level price (about $18 million total) - the Knicks will pursue other options at point guard. Mike Bibby could be a possibility, with Andre Miller and restricted free agent Ramon Sessions considered long shots. Miller has received a great deal of interest from the Trail Blazers and Sessions is believed to be a lock to be re-signed by the Bucks.
Charlotte, San Antonio, Orlando, New Orleans, Dallas all trying to sign Brandon Bass.
Rich Bucher reports that Tiago Splitter may be coming over to play for the Spurs.
The Horntes need frontcourt help and are calling everybody including: Joe Smith, Mikki Moore, Maceo Baston, & Jake Voskuhl.
Oklahoma City going after Gerald Green. (seems like a good move)
Deron Washington has signed a guaranteed contract with Detroit.
76ers were interested in Bibby, but he wants to stay in Atlanta.
Woooo. Morris Almond!!!!
Boooo. Gerald Green.
Ha yeah the Knicks should get Gerald Green too.
we just need to trade David Lee...Many people dont know, we can resign Lee.
I'm confused a little about sign&trades. Can the Knicks sign both Lee & Nate then trade them both? How much money do the Knicks have to take back in a trade? Can somebody that knows all about sign&trades fill me in..thanks
If the Knicks sign Jason Kidd to a 3 year deal I will be devestated...that is an awful move. Why don't they go after Sessions?
Yea. we could do that. we have to take back similar value ( unless the other team is under the cap) I thought of an idea. What if you move both?
Lee (sign and trade) and Jeffries to Portland for Martell Webster, Travis Outlaw and paying right to D. Miles (4.5 mil)
Robinson (Sign and trade) and to LA for Morrison and Farmar.
I know, I dont want Kidd for 3 years. I think we should just go sign Sessions for the full MDE offer sheet.
I read where Sessions hasn't even got any offers yet from any team. I'm shocked...what r these teams thinking. The same goes for Glen Davis...there hasn't been a lot of interest in him so far either.
I think both Portland & the Lakers would do those trades. I like the idea of New York getting Morrison. I'm not a big Farmar fan though. Outlaw & Webster would play well in New Yorks offensive system. Good trades..I hope they happen ha
So David Lee is wanting about 9mil a year & Nate is looking for around 6mil or so just guessing? Anybody know what type of $$$ they are looking for.
Lee wants 10-11 mil and Nate wants like 4-6 mil
Im shocked, but not because you need big money because Milwaukee has so money so there waiting to match a offer
I like Webster and Outlaw. Morrison would thrive in this offense and Farmar...he's a expiring contract.
Also, Glen Davis has a offer from Boston...
Morrison is a bust.
I dunno. He play well his 1st year...then he got hurt (torn acl) and got traded....we gotta give him one more chance
Oh yeah I knew Boston made an offer to Big Baby but I expect a different team to scoop him up in the end. Somebody will offer him more than the Celtics can afford. Especially if Boston signs Rasheed. There are a lot of teams that could use a very physical PF.
Morrison is a bust but still I would like to see him come to New York. Maybe a different system would help him out. I still think he has a lot of talent. He was one of the best shooters and scorers I have ever seen in college. I can't believe he has been such a disappointment in the nba.
I want Sessions to leave the Bucks. Him & Jennings...is not going to work.
Ramon Sessions to the lakers would be a match made in heaven. He can learn and be a back up to Fisher for a year, then come in and start for a long time. He is talented and just what the lakers need, an athletic point guard finally....
Gerald Green to Oklahoma City is a great move. He is a OK native and fits in well with the young and athletic Thunder team. He was as athletic as Lebron coming out of High School, just could of used a couple of years of college to learn the game. Westbrook- G. Green- Durant - J. Green- Mullens..... Give them 2-3 Years max (until Kobe and Duncan get old and fall off)
Iverson to Miami is best scenario for Iverson. He can start alongside Wade and WILL AVERAGE 8 ASSISTS PER GAME
Other than that Sheed should go to Spurs, Bass will remain a Mav....
Why sit behind Fisher?
Also, I dont see A.I averaging 8 assist and they need more of a playmaking PG. Iverson is a scorer. They should go more towards Bibby.
Heat need a nother scoring threat in the backcourt with Wade, it would open up everything for both to basically play 1 on 1 all the time
I'm not a Miami or an Iverson fan so they can have each other ha.
I don't want Session in LA either...Knicks need him. Sessions is probably already better than Fisher.
I would be fine with Gerald Green going to the Thunder. I would rather see him in New York too though.
They just said on Espn that they expect Hedo to sign with Portland. He left their with an offer. I think the Blazers are messing up. I think a lot of teams are screwing up this offseason.
i dont think Portland would want to pay 10mil for a backup power forward. unless portland got rid of Pryzbilla, or Oden.
I like the idea of the Knicks taking chances on guys that didn't work out in other places. Besides the guys will be super cheap to sign and the better chance you get a bargain. That's what this team has to be looking for if they want to save money. Who doesn't want a guy like the Birdman or Brandon Bass that you sign for cheap and gives you a boost off the bench. Even a guy like Shannon Brown didn't get to play until his final year and played well once he got to the right situation.
Like some other people said, I'm surprised that he hasn't gotten an offer yet. He is a really nice player. He is way better than I ever thought he would be coming out of college. Why wouldn't the Knicks roll the dice on him? I would rather him than Kidd. He is younger and likely only going to get better while Kidd is still on the decline. Sessions would be great with D'Antoni.
By the way, what's up with the whole Ben Gordon thing? Why would the Bulls decide to sign him to take on Iverson? Realistically, Iverson is still (slightly) better than Gordon, but he's not worth the risk, the cap space or the development of the team. Besides, Iverson would have to agree to the trade. If I am the Bulls and for whatever reason Detroit wants to give Ben Gordon more money, then just send me a future draft pick or let me choose one of your just drafted prospects and we can get the deal done.
I'm not sure if there is anything worse than overpaying a player not once, but twice. Next we will see that he is signed to a max contract. Does anyone know if there has been a player that never was or never ended up being an all-star that signed to a max deal?
Anyone have news of Millsap?
I am interested in finally seeing Tiago Splitter, he was a pretty hyped internation prospect for a long time. Hopefully he will be able to spell Timmy for a couple of minutes a game.
Gerald Green to Thunder doesn't make any sense. How many wing players does a team need? Unless they plan on moving some in trades they currently have Durant, Green(usually plays PF), Harden, Mason, Sefolosha, Vaden(may not make team), Weaver, Wilkins & now they want to add Green? That's about as confusing as their offer to Millsap.
However on the other hand he'd probably thrive really well in the Thunder system, and perhaps finally meet his potential. But it just seems to be a big logjam of wings so unless they start trading some, I don't see this being a good signing.
Mason may not be re-signed. Gerald Green is better than Weaver, Wilkins, & Vaden IMO. Green also has more potential than Sefolosha. I think it would be a good pickup. He doesn't have to play major minutes. Give him 16 minutes a game and see what happens.