NEW hansbrough Comparison
I was born in Chapel Hill, raised in Miami, grew up watching the Tarheels play and I have to say, I am sick of hearing the Mark Madsen comparison. They are just both white and the same size, its played already. I really think that the best comparison of what I think he is ready to be, and pretty soon too, is like Udonis Haslem. Haslem has emerged as one of the most subtle but effective role players in the game IMHO. He is 6'8, and not overly athletic or skilled handling the ball. He gets a solid amount of tough rebounds, and sticks his looks and I dont see any reason why Hansbrough, with his work ethic, doesnt have the potential to do that etremely effectively.
Nice to see you aren't biased saying you grew up watching the Tarheels and raised in Miami...it's a good comparison but I think Haslem is more of a jump shooter than Hansbrough will ultimately be, and I think Hansbrough will be better to extent around the basket than Haslem. I like to compare Hansbrough to Carl Landry because he is a ball of energy off the bench for the Rockets, is a solid rebouder, but not spectacular rebounder off the bench, occasionally shoots a jumper like Hansbrough, and shoots a very high % (57). I think that because he will only be a role player, he will too shoot a high % given his role and only going to be taking smart shots.
At best Hansborough could be a Boozer.
The Boozer comparison may be one of the worst posts I have ever read on any message board. The comparison is just so dumb.
Boozer is a better rebounder, defender, much stronger, more athletic, and taller than Hansbrough ever will be. I'm not saying that Hansbrough's offensive game isn't close. I think he could end up being a very sound shooter like Haslem, but he could never be as good as Boozer mainly because he'll never have the raw athletic skills or the body size and strength of a Boozer--and he'll never be able to improve those skills. He is what he is.
Also, the original posting for this thread is also kind of stupid. I mean how do you look at this site and then just one day have an epiphany that Hansbrough might be the next Haslem. This comparison is everywhere on this board and the internet. I mean come on did we really need a thread for this.
Wow some of yall are really shooting for the stars on this one.
Boozer.....really? Don't write another word in your life. But I do like the Haslem comparison.
At very very very very very very best, he will be a Luis Scola
I really don't think it takes that long to learn how to shoot effectively from 15 to 18 feet. Remember, Haslem didn't have that kind of range his first year in Miami (12-15, which is similar to Hansborough right now); now he does. I think in 2 years, Hansborough will have a solid jumpshot out to 18. This shouldn't be all that difficult as he's only extending his range by 3 or 4 feet in a span of like 20 months. All in all, I think the Haslem comparison is right on. Great post, Canesboy6.
i still think the madsen comparison is the best one. i think Haslem is a much more fluid athlete, long arms, nice form on his shot. i dont think Hansbrough will ever be able to defend like Haslem which will make it hard for him to get major minutes. i'd be shocked if Psycho T ever becomes a starter. best of luck to him.
Hansbrough is just a scorer re does remind me of Luis Scola at best. He's going to be bust like Kwame Brown.
Hansbrough's isn't gonna be a bust because nobody with basketball sense really expects alot out of him. He could either have an NBA career as the 11th or 12th guy in the rotation, or go over to Europe and be a starter.
Hansbrough isn't gonna be a bust because nobody with basketball sense really expects alot out of him. He could either have an NBA career as the 11th or 12th guy in the rotation, or go over to Europe and be a starter.
I think Hamsbrough is starting to get underrated... I think at best Hansbrough is a less athletic Kenny Thomas circa 2004
happy 4/20, roll up your hatorade and smoke it. I definately am a little biased with Tyler, becuase if you are a fan, you grow to love him. But the truth is that he is also a great player. I really think his biggest problem is overexposure. We've all been picking at his flaws forever and as a result, i agree with Katastrophe. He is a good enough athlete to get the job done, I really think there are worse athletes at his position in the nba than he is.
one thing though, Boozer is a really really really bad comparison just because I cant imagine him bieng that effective in the NBA either. BUt you know what, boozer was a second round pick so nobody else could have either. All im saying with him is that he is a good player, and an unbelievable leader and work ethic, and brings positivity and is ready to play at the NBA level right away.
You wan't some motivation at the next level Hansbrough? You will be a heaping pile of Dog &$#%#&@! facing NBA competetion. A career journeyman who only wished he could wear adonyl foyle and mark madsons jockstraps.
I don't get where everyone gets the idea that they just KNOW someone will be a bust or be "a Scola at very best". Nobody knows, so why don't we all just wait and see and save the chirping for when something actually happens...
At Best He can be a Boozer. His midrange jumper as grown leaps and bounds, he's money from the elbow. His always been physical and a high volume rebounder. There both the same height. I know this guy is going to be effective somewhere. Watch.
TYLER HANSBROUGH WILL BE ON THE BENCH FOR HIS ENTIRE NBA CAREER!!!! Lmao...jus kiddin...he'll be a low role player and thats about it. No he won't be a Boozer because Boozer is far more effective in the post and mid range, well offensively period. (And defense too) He'll just be a player on the court to go ATTEMPT to get rebounds and provide energy. (He has very, very little athleticism) Now if he's got the commitment and work ethic, he could be a decent player, IN TIME! But he will have to work extremely hard.
i try to make it a point to never insult anyone else's opinion, but Boozer?!!! i cant even comprehend that comparison. that is completely outlandish. i read that comparison and instantly threw up on my computer. i dont even feel that i should have to justify my opinion with facts. its just bad.
That's like saying Tyler=black griffin.
Black Griffin sounds like a guy who would have been one of Shaft's mortal enemies back in the 1970's.
The only thing Hansbrough shares with Boozer is the second round of the draft.
I will have to say that it is hard not to react in way when someone throws a all the wall comparison. I will say this though comparing Boozer and Hansbrough is just unbelievably out there. I can't even put Lee and Boozer when healthy on equal level and Lee is a super athletic player. It does not matter the skill set because there are some great skill set college players that will not make the NBA because honestly if you are not quick enough and can't grab a role of some sort than you will not make it. People were knocking Love's athleticism and he appears to be more athletic than Hanbrough and he is bigger. Hanbrough does not seem to have the body frame to last long as front court player in the NBA. Brian Cardinal who can shoot 3's and is a hustle player rarely plays anymore. I believe that is decent comparison if you take the 3's out. Hanbrough has a NCAA championship so i think he should be happy with that and getting drafted but he will be a good maybe great role player and hey at least he may wind up better than Morrison.
I think Hansbrough is very similar to Leon Powe. Hansbrough won't be a star in the NBA, but he can become valuable as a role player who will come in the game, grab a few rebounds, score points, and most of all, the team won't be hurt. And the more I think about it, the more I believe he's very much like Leon Powe.
Ask several NBA coaches if they would like to have a player like Powe coming off the bench. That's the value in a Tyler Hansbrough. Nobody expects him to do what he did in college, but if he can play 15-18 minutes per game, rebound aggressively, and score 8-10 points, he will be well worth a late first round choice.
And let's not forget that he's a complete team player who will not cause any problems.
i see the Powe comparison, but once again, Powe is much more athletic than hansbrough. i dont really see Psycho T streaking down the lane in the NBA finals for a poster dunk ala Leon Powe! but stranger things have happened...
First, I think Hanbsrough is a far better athlete than people give him credit for. Second, I wasn't trying to say they are physically alike. I was trying to make the point that the nature of their game and the role they would play for their team is very similar.
i'm with you on that rtbt. andrew declercq! lol
Everyone knows he's not a 'superior' athlete and all that but I think he's just as athletic IF NOT MORE athletic than Leon Powe.
You guys make him out to be some kind of Pat Garrity with no shooting ability. He's retard strong and can crash boards with anyone. Ask Clemson and UVA fans, Hansborough will bang it on you all day if you don't think he's for real.
1. Tyler being boozer? did tyler type that himself? Tyler has almost NO skillset other than being a hustle player. Hes like the "rudy" of basketball players. not to mention he struggles against guys his own size. Hes a average athlete at best, not fast, not a great leaper, dribbler,passer, shooter etc..
2. Tyler beig leon powe? again, people forget powe was a stud before he blew out his knees and even now hes a better athlete than tyler and more imposing.
3. Tyler as luis scola? I don't even like scola but his offense is miles past tyler. Tylers points consist of ulgy off balance shots that will get sent into orbit in the NBA and put backs. Hes not going to be out muscling guys like that in the nba.
So as much as u think the mark madsen idea is just cuz their both white and average, it doesn' matter. Madsen was good in college too ya know. But having a non stop motor only gets you so far. Hansbrough will all depend on situation. If he gets drafted late first round/early second to a good team like the celts, spurs, orlando etc..he could have a 10 year career as a hustle role playerJUST LIKE MADSEN. but if he goes early first to a good team where he is actually expected to contribute he'll be one of the biggest busts of all time. I mean i've had people argue with me that he'll go lotto which would be a huge kwame brown type joke if it happens. So again, at worst hes mark madsen, at best hes Anderson Varejeo.
Powe was a freak athlete before getting hurt and is still a better athlete. Tylers most athlete feats have been dunks during warmups and a basic 2 handed dunk on kenny geroge when kenny didn't even do more than put his hands up to block. Hansbrough has never been known for "banging it on people".Not o mention powe moves better laterally than tyler even at this point. He'll get an occasional dunk but les not make it like hes dwight howard. Pat garrity with no shooting actually wouldn't be a bad comparison. Hes COLLEGE strong, and can crash boards but most of that is just cuz he was bigger than guys he played. Almost everytime he played someone his size or someone more athletic they've destroyed him in head to head battles even though hes wins for being on a superior team. Ask Oklahoma fans. Hes not gonna out muscle or bang on shaq,dwight,yao,kg, amare,perkins etc...all the big athletes of the nba.
I'm just saying he's not some chump bench warmer with a Brian Cook vert.
And ask Oklahoma fans what? What they did with their free time after they lost?
Some of you guys don't get it. It's not whether Hansbrough or Powe is a better athlete. The real point of the comparison is their impact on the team. In my opinion, just like Powe, Hansbrough will be a competent role player coming off the bench for 15-18 minutes per game. And just like Powe, he will rebound, score enough points to keep the defense honest, and be a team player.
That's where the comparison is relevant. Just ask Doc Rivers how valuable Leon Powe is to the Celtics. And that's all Hansbrough will be with the right team, a very competent role player, something all NBA coaches need. People who understand the game realize and appreciate the importance of role players. That's why I think it's definitely worth using a very late first round choice on Hansbrough.
In addition, there is one other factor everybody seems to forget. Hansbrough was constantly double and triple teamed in college and will be played one on one in the NBA. It will be somewhat interesting to see how he handles one on one coverage, something he hasn't seen in a long time. No, he won't be a big time scorer, but as mentioned above, he has more than enough skills to keep the defense honest.
Yeah, they make him out to be some kind of bumbling, uncoordinated idiot when he's one of the best I've ever seen at finishing with contact at any level.
DY_Nasty wrote, "Yeah, they make him out to be some kind of bumbling, uncoordinated idiot when he's one of the best I've ever seen at finishing with contact at any level."
That's a very good point. Hansbrough didn't become the national player of the year because people were getting out of his way and allowing him to score at will. He is a much better athlete than people in this forum seem to give him credit for.
I can't imagine him being a big time scorer at the next level, but I still believe my comparison to Leon Powe and what he does for the Celtics, applies to Hansbrough. He should be a very productive role player who can provide scoring and rebounding coming off the bench.
If Tyler works crazy on his 3 point shooting, then he can develop into a Matt Bonnor or Brain Scalabrine type of guy, which are clearly better than being a Mark Madsen.
boozer well rounded defensively???..LOL...THTS A JOKE..I NOW LIVE IN UTAH AND IVE BEEN TO A COUPLE OF GAMES AND watched most of there games and one thing boozer isnt is a good defender...please tell a utah fan that hes a good defender and they will look at u like youre crazy...and as far as hansboro being as good as boozer i dont think he will beut if he did i wouldnt be suprised because to be honest with you i never thought boozer would be as good as he is now...i really thought he was too short to slow and not athletic enough plus not consistant jumper and ive never liked hansboro but i have noticed his jumper has gotten better and better and with a lil work he could develop some post moves and the fact that he works very hard gives him a chance
WOW just as athletic as leon powe...im not sure if you really have watched leon powe play..he is very athletic ..grabted hansboro is more athletic then hes given credit for but hes is not on par with powe by any strecth of the imagination...next time just say no!!!!!!!
This stuff is crazy. Hansbrough has no GAME. He has that floater thing and that move where he runs into the defender who is in good position (refs- have always loved him. How else would you explain a guy with NO moves getting to the free throw line more than anyone in collegiate history), If anyone remembers he has struggled when playing similar sized opponents throughout his career. I believe this is what makes many people have such low expectations for Tyler. In four years he's the same player, with the same game. All he added in that time, is a J (in which he must be beyond open to even attempt it). Also, many are calling him a bust, because so many have to high hopes for him. How many really see him being a vital part of any teams rotation?