[valentine]

I realized a couple things while makin a mock Draft ( Read Mock Draft 3.0) and i wanted to share it with you

Age limit by the NBA- It’s somewhat working. If I was Stern i would have went baseball rule ( You can go out of HS but if u dont, 2 years of NCAA). But overall, its helps. riffin went back when he was lottery pick and look what it got him. Guys like Aminu, Aldrich, Warren now go back and could get a chance to go higher in 2010. The players that go 1 and Done are ususally guys who have high upside and it would be a waste to stay another year.

Europe- Ever since Darko, the NBA has not been kind for them. I think the biggest issue is the ability for european players to ” go back” to play for thier team. Rubio is the only 1st round lock from europe in this draft. I think if we could have a rule where we could stop these guys from going back ( 1st round picks only, 2nd rounders are usually picked to stay a year or two in europe) the GMs will look at them more.

NBDL- This is the biggest waste i ever seen. Here is my idea for the D-league. Give every NBA team a D-league team so there’s 32. Then add another round to the NBA draft. All 3rd round picks automatically go to the D-League ( european players could stay in europe if wanted) and then shorten the NBDL draft to 5 rounds. Then promote like Crazy and have some games on NBA TV. ( this plan is best once we get out the recession)

What do u think? Also, Read MOCK DRAFT 3.0

[RickyRubio9Participant]

I like the D-League plan. Sort of like our Minor League System and players still have a chance to live their dream. If they dominate D-League, then maybe they can get called up and make a team. Would it hurt?

[QHaynes123]

They could also take young high-school guys and store them in the d-league too. Gives more guys a chance to actually play

[jdubsram-13Participant]

This isnt the NFL there are only 30 teams, hence 30 1st and 2nd round choices and 15 teams in each conference.

I also like the D-League, if only they had it on video games like 2k9 or Live 09 so you could call-up or send down like baseball. Also, on that video game topic, if they are trying to keep them E, they should make another T or above, like Blitz the League, and have other things in the games like flagrant/technical fouls, and another program that allows you to fight, like charging the mound, and have it simulate something like that.

[sheltwon3Participant]

I think having the D league in more basketball games would help you learn the players and kinda root for them

[RickyRubio9Participant]

basketball games will sound lame in the future. 2K10? NBA LIVE 10? just..lame.

[Stanford hoopsParticipant]

i agree wit the d leauge idea..not the age limit thing..making too many kids who dont wanna go to college go for one year when they obviously dont wanna be there..just get rid of the age rule..before the rule there was no problems…dumb rule

[rvirsalParticipant]

yeah, i think they should make a 3rd round (they used to have more when there weren’t too many franchises), there were quite a handful of players who went undrafted and turned out to be good pros (ex. big ben, brad miller, darrell armstrong). also, i’d want video games to have the d-league feature, that would be awesome, maybe add the euro league as well? they could make it something like fifa’s wherein teams can buy players from anywhere in the world.

2k10’s not that bad, but nba live 10?? maybe they should go back with the 20xx series.

[QHaynes123]

Why does every say ” this is not the NFL”? I mean each team should have a good d-league team they can train young C and PG’s who they think is good.

Also, I like the Idea of the D-league more exposed in NBA games

[rtbtParticipant]

I want to make 2 comments reference this thread.

1. 18 year olds can fight for their country but if their goal is to play in the NBA, they’re not allowed. How stupid is that rule? Every kid is not meant for college. The end result are those idiotic one and done players pretending to be college students.

2. The NBA has to either get rid of that idiotic $500,000 limit on International players or at least raise it to 2-3 million dollars.

[QHaynes123]

ALL IN ALL….I UNDERSTAND.

You are so correct.

[Evan_MilbergParticipant]

The reason why baseball’s format works is because their draft has 50 rounds, and in the MLB, players are drafted to spend time in the minor leagues and work they’re way up to the majors, while the NBA puts a much higher emphasis on getting immediate production from rookies. Because of the higher amount of players that get drafted, baseball can have a fully-working minor league system, whereas the NBDL is basically a place for NBA throw-aways that teams don’t want to give their 15th roster spot to. With the way the NBA’s minor league system is set up, there’s no way they could support an MLB-style age rule without adding more rounds to the draft. I like your idea for what to do with the NBDL, but the money to support it just wouldn’t be there, even after the recession.

As for European players, I have no sympathy for the NBA teams that take the risk by drafting them. If you’re gonna draft a guy, you should at least do the basic research of finding out whether or not he can even play in America and what the status of his overseas contract is. There’s no rule you could institute to stop them from “going back,” because in the end, they’re gonna do what they wanna do.

[QHaynes123]

good points. But think about it. I think if you give high school guys a chance to enter the draft, some will go and be 2nd rounders. (Monta Ellis) I think teams like San Antonio and Dallas among others would take advantage of it. I mean If still gives guys a chance to play in the NBA. NBA draft would be 3 rounds and NBDL draft goes 3 rounds.

Euros need to have a deal where the Euro team will sign a wavier to allow them in the Draft. Thats the only why they should be allowed in the draft.

[Stanford hoopsParticipant]

yeah but how does that benifit a euro team who has invested in a guy and then the guy is just able to leave in the middle of his contract?

[QHaynes123]

Make him some what pay back to the team within a certain time

for example

Ricky Rubio will be a top 5 pick…in 2009

by 2011, what ever team picks him will have to pay a tax ( maybe 10 to 15 % of his spain contract)

[Stanford hoopsParticipant]

im not sure too many teams will agree with that they would want there money upfront ..i know i would if i was running a team over there since rubio brings in alot of money for there team and teams lose more money then they bring in over there

[QHaynes123]

Yea well….your right to a point

If LAC takes Rubio ( lets say they do) and he bring them to the playoffs and bring in 100 mill in ticket sales and jerseys sales

4 to 6 mill in a tax doesnt seem that big

[Evan_MilbergParticipant]

Remember that Donald Sterling is the owner of the Clippers, and has a history of being cheap. However, it’s moot because the Clippers have already announced they’re taking Griffin, who doesn’t come with the added hassle of a former contract.

[QHaynes123]

I know…your right

[QHaynes123]

Check out MOCK DRAFT 3.1

[Bishop71Participant]

You always have to look at the result of a rule change before judging it. I honesly understand the whole logic behind why 18 year olds should be able to go the draft, hell international players in basketball and soccer can be pro’s before they’re 17 in alot of cases. I understand the logic about serving in the military at 18.

That being said, the NBA age limit/ one year out of high school rule is absolutely one of the NBA’s most effective rule changes. You cannont deny the fact that these one and done guys from college are coming into the NBA a hell of alot better than the bulk of the guys coming straight from high school. Argue all you want, the proof is in the pudding, NBA rookies are much better and with the inception of the NBDL they get a chance to be competitive if they get drafted to super deep teams (Hell where do you think the Lakers and Nuggets are probably gonna send their draft picks next season?)

I understand the arguement colleges make about guys “making a mockery” of the college basketball tradition. BS. The truth is colleges are mad because college baskteball which used to be a coach’s league, is now a player’s league. Players have the leverage now. They get what they want because they’re the hot commodities, not the coaches. Why do you think Bobby Knight is so bitter? Because one and done athletes have rendered coaches like him irrelevent because they don’t wanna get yelled at and stomped on and quite frankly he doesn’t recruit.

Honestly if major division I college basketball programs wanted to get rid of the one and done guys they could, but you know why they can’t? Because there are mid-majors, there are D-II, and D-III schools who would love to have these athletes for one year. There are HBCU basketball programs who would love to have those guys for only one year. These teams who always get forced into the play-in game (which is a whole nother thread). Those programs would undercut the power of the major programs and quite honestly that’s what college sports are all about: money, power, and exposure.

Picture that, what if Carmelo Anthony would’ve played one year at George Mason instead, what if Kevin Durant played his one year at Howard University, what if instead of UNC Chapel Hill, Marvin Williams decided to play his one year at North Carolina A&T SU (Aggie Pride)? This would significantly upset the balance of power in NCAA basketball and we can’t have that, so people will keep going on ESPN crying about something that is just a change in the times. Coaches lament because players have the power now, and they have to pander to them.

So no I don’t feel bad for the colleges, the NBA has no obligation to them. And the NBA is a better product because of it.

[Stanford hoopsParticipant]

i also dont feel bad for the college but i still dont agree wit the nba rule..it benifits the nba and thats why they hve the rule..and im not to sure about the proof because this years class was just so good it wouldnt have mattered if they would have came straight pro out of college..it just isnt right to have a rule that can limit a guy from doing his job right out of highschool

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