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  • #48981
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    lakeshow22
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    Will Bazz work out tomorrow at the combine with the small Foward or shooting guards? Everyone seems to have him as a SF but why can’t he play SG? I think his laterally quickness is Better than most think. It’s not great but it’s not bad enough that he will be a liability. Also I’ve been reading that some teams would have bazz ranked higher if they know he can make the transition to SG. The Magic are said to be high on bazz and would consider him there with a top 3 pick if he shows he can play SG cause they want to keep harkless at SF

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  • #775220
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    SF. He really is not that small compared to the average SF, when you consider his length and strength. Plus, he has more of a SF’s game. His lack of quicks and ball handling ability will hurt him at SG, and he should be better defensively at the 3.

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  • #775151
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    SF. He really is not that small compared to the average SF, when you consider his length and strength. Plus, he has more of a SF’s game. His lack of quicks and ball handling ability will hurt him at SG, and he should be better defensively at the 3.

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  • #775219
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    I think he would be better at SG. I think he is semi undersized for a SF.

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  • #775149
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    I think he would be better at SG. I think he is semi undersized for a SF.

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  • #775228
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    llperez

    I’m a ucla fan and I’m pulling for him. I think he will be a sf. His biggest strength is his mid range game and variety of leaners and push shots in the paint. He likes contact. Speed and dribbling is not his strong point. Despite being a shade under 6-6, he has good strength and reach to hang with sf’s

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  • #775159
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    I’m a ucla fan and I’m pulling for him. I think he will be a sf. His biggest strength is his mid range game and variety of leaners and push shots in the paint. He likes contact. Speed and dribbling is not his strong point. Despite being a shade under 6-6, he has good strength and reach to hang with sf’s

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  • #775230
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    For_Never_Ever
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    He kinda reminds of Bonzi Wells, but with a better jump shot and length. I also see some Stackhouse in the he doesn’t dance around or hold the ball for too long. Once he get the ball he is going try to score quickly.

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  • #775161
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    For_Never_Ever
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    He kinda reminds of Bonzi Wells, but with a better jump shot and length. I also see some Stackhouse in the he doesn’t dance around or hold the ball for too long. Once he get the ball he is going try to score quickly.

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  • #775189
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    omphalos
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    I think it will be as a SG, that’s his offensive game, moving without the ball, spotting up.

    I’m just curious to see what sort of shape he’s in when he shows up to the combine.

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  • #775258
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    omphalos
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    I think it will be as a SG, that’s his offensive game, moving without the ball, spotting up.

    I’m just curious to see what sort of shape he’s in when he shows up to the combine.

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  • #775192
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    For_Never_Ever
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    I don’t think he can guard quick sg’s, with his lack of foot and hand speed. Watching him, he isn’t a good defender from what I can tell. That is just as big of hole in his game him not being able to handle the ball. I’m curious how he’ll handle stronger, taller and bigger forwards. Likewise if he is put in the sg spot how he’ll deal with the speed and athleticism.

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    • #775344
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      omphalos
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      I’m not sure how many “quick” SGs there are these days, if you look at the top SGs in Kobe, Wade, Harden, none of them are exceptionally quick, they all have great footwork and play at their own pace, but quickness is not an attribute I’d strongly associate with them, certainly not more than Muhammad couldn’t handle.

      I think people overstate the importance of guarding your own man in today’s NBA, individual defenders are important, but most teams have schemes which allow for the first man to be beaten as a result of the Lebron’s and Durant’s proving unguardable. Also, the great individual defenders can have a limited impact due to the proliferation of the pick and roll in the modern NBA.

      Unless teams are going small and starting two PGs like Milwaukee, I don’t think Bazz will have an issue, it’s not a very strong position in the NBA right now, and very few are exceptionally quick.

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    • #775414
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      omphalos
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      I’m not sure how many “quick” SGs there are these days, if you look at the top SGs in Kobe, Wade, Harden, none of them are exceptionally quick, they all have great footwork and play at their own pace, but quickness is not an attribute I’d strongly associate with them, certainly not more than Muhammad couldn’t handle.

      I think people overstate the importance of guarding your own man in today’s NBA, individual defenders are important, but most teams have schemes which allow for the first man to be beaten as a result of the Lebron’s and Durant’s proving unguardable. Also, the great individual defenders can have a limited impact due to the proliferation of the pick and roll in the modern NBA.

      Unless teams are going small and starting two PGs like Milwaukee, I don’t think Bazz will have an issue, it’s not a very strong position in the NBA right now, and very few are exceptionally quick.

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  • #775261
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    For_Never_Ever
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    I don’t think he can guard quick sg’s, with his lack of foot and hand speed. Watching him, he isn’t a good defender from what I can tell. That is just as big of hole in his game him not being able to handle the ball. I’m curious how he’ll handle stronger, taller and bigger forwards. Likewise if he is put in the sg spot how he’ll deal with the speed and athleticism.

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  • #775253
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    Pistol Pete. The Pelican
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    I think it depends on whatever the team that drafts him needs. There are tons of the players in the league who have started at both. His decision will be decided by the team that drafts him. I think he can be successful at either because of his length and quickness, it would be more of an advantage at the 2 position.

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  • #775323
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    Pistol Pete. The Pelican
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    I think it depends on whatever the team that drafts him needs. There are tons of the players in the league who have started at both. His decision will be decided by the team that drafts him. I think he can be successful at either because of his length and quickness, it would be more of an advantage at the 2 position.

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  • #775350
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    JoeJo
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    There isn’t much difference between guards and small forwards except for size. Shabazz would be a pretty short small forward but he has the length to be one. The notion that guards are just so much quicker than small forwards is false and outdated so he could play guard too. Offensively, he would be best suited going up against guards because he doesn’t create a lot of space. He would stand a better chance of hitting his one-handed push shots if they were contested by smaller guards than by bigger small forwards.

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  • #775420
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    There isn’t much difference between guards and small forwards except for size. Shabazz would be a pretty short small forward but he has the length to be one. The notion that guards are just so much quicker than small forwards is false and outdated so he could play guard too. Offensively, he would be best suited going up against guards because he doesn’t create a lot of space. He would stand a better chance of hitting his one-handed push shots if they were contested by smaller guards than by bigger small forwards.

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  • #775430
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    he_gets_buckets
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    If he can improve upon his handle and lateral quickness he can play the 2, but until then he is an undersized 3.

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  • #775360
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    he_gets_buckets
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    If he can improve upon his handle and lateral quickness he can play the 2, but until then he is an undersized 3.

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  • #775448
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    jwostrum
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    I just saw the nba draft combine interview, and shabazz looks like he is back in shape from high school. I can’t wait for the draft combine today and tomorrow.

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    jwostrum
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    I just saw the nba draft combine interview, and shabazz looks like he is back in shape from high school. I can’t wait for the draft combine today and tomorrow.

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  • #775464
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    rope
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    He will play on the wing. I’m not sure the SG / SF thing matters that much anymore. He will have to guard someone if he is going to get on the floor. Who that is will vary based on what team they are playing. He has the look of an offensive spark off the bench, at least as first. If he can play with intensity – a big if in my mind at this point – he can come into the game, do what he does and make an impact. The game has evolved a bit and the SG / SF and 2/3 things are actually ill fitting descriptions of what is happening on the floor in the NBA most of the time.

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  • #775395
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    rope
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    He will play on the wing. I’m not sure the SG / SF thing matters that much anymore. He will have to guard someone if he is going to get on the floor. Who that is will vary based on what team they are playing. He has the look of an offensive spark off the bench, at least as first. If he can play with intensity – a big if in my mind at this point – he can come into the game, do what he does and make an impact. The game has evolved a bit and the SG / SF and 2/3 things are actually ill fitting descriptions of what is happening on the floor in the NBA most of the time.

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  • #775468
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    Meditated States
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    He can defend both IMO.

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  • #775399
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    Meditated States
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    He can defend both IMO.

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  • #775470
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    OaktownWarriors
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    Either, I simply feel Muhammad will be a bust in 3 yrs. At this point, he has a nice open court game and can score on smaller players. And of course he should improve? But I wouldn’t draft him.

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  • #775400
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    OaktownWarriors
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    Either, I simply feel Muhammad will be a bust in 3 yrs. At this point, he has a nice open court game and can score on smaller players. And of course he should improve? But I wouldn’t draft him.

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