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  • #56657
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    juves4783
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    here’s some tidbits from the latest chad ford rumblings on insider.

    parker worked out for cavs and appears to have tanked the workout (in some scouts opinions).  came in at 255 lbs and looked winded at times.

    lakers interested in a package deal with 6ers…thad young and mcw for nash and #7.

    orlando has offered #4, 12 and afflalo to cavs and bucks but no takers.  offered afflalo for #8 to kings and #11 to nuggs also.

    orlando draft board…exum #1, vonleh 2a., smart 2b.

    utah high on aaron gordon as as ak47 type player over embiid.

    nuggs looking euro at #11.  rumors there is a promise to saric.  ford thinks nurkic.  i think lavine. 

    hawks shopping teague.  may look at pg at 15.  have a hard time believing this.

    jokic and tavares are getting a lot of buzz.

     

     

     

     

     

      

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  • #924715
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    The8thDeadlySin
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    Lakers and 76ers trade is interesting.. Is that 7th pick worth Nash’s terrible contract and MCW??

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    The8thDeadlySin
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    Lakers and 76ers trade is interesting.. Is that 7th pick worth Nash’s terrible contract and MCW??

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  • #924721
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    mopo
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    Philly does not need to trade a sure thing for a question mark. They have made too many smart moves for this to be believable. 

    Thad for Nash – Thad wins

    #7 for MCW – MCW wins

     

     

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  • #924851
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    mopo
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    Philly does not need to trade a sure thing for a question mark. They have made too many smart moves for this to be believable. 

    Thad for Nash – Thad wins

    #7 for MCW – MCW wins

     

     

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  • #924737
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    JoeWolf1

     The Bucks were the only team who worked out McGary, who have 31, but are also trying to move into the late 1st.

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      A user on here posted that he had a promise in the 20’s.  I dont know whether that was true or not but could be why he hasn’t worked out much….

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      A user on here posted that he had a promise in the 20’s.  I dont know whether that was true or not but could be why he hasn’t worked out much….

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  • #924867
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    JoeWolf1

     The Bucks were the only team who worked out McGary, who have 31, but are also trying to move into the late 1st.

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  • #924741
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    sweaterflex
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     That trade is pretty ideal for both sides.  Nash’s contract expires in a year and the 76ers have to work to reach the salary floor this year while keeping their future capsheet clean.  They also played at a furious pace to inflate MCW’s stats, almost no one rates MCW as better than Exum or Smart.  The Lakers are rarely interested in developing talent and would prefer to be good sooner rather than later to prevent Kobe from getting grumpy.  If the Lakers sign Pau to a decent contract (3 years/$24mil?) they could offer Melo or Lebron close to max money.

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    • #924985
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       Nash hasn’t been a top tier point since the 90s.  Cap space ??  We’ve had and have a ton and don’t seem to want to use it for more than facilitating trades.

      I would rate MCW better than Smart – you see Marcus averaging 16-6-6 ?

      Soooo – we give up the ROY, our best veteran and good guy in Thad, take Grandpa Nash off your hands and for this we get the 7th pick which maybe we can use for Smart or Aaron Gordon and his 4th grade jumper ?

      Let me ask you something – are you hoped up on the pot ?

      Only the Lakers GM would fabricate this ludicous of a trade

       

       

       

       

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    • #924856
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       Nash hasn’t been a top tier point since the 90s.  Cap space ??  We’ve had and have a ton and don’t seem to want to use it for more than facilitating trades.

      I would rate MCW better than Smart – you see Marcus averaging 16-6-6 ?

      Soooo – we give up the ROY, our best veteran and good guy in Thad, take Grandpa Nash off your hands and for this we get the 7th pick which maybe we can use for Smart or Aaron Gordon and his 4th grade jumper ?

      Let me ask you something – are you hoped up on the pot ?

      Only the Lakers GM would fabricate this ludicous of a trade

       

       

       

       

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  • #924871
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    sweaterflex
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     That trade is pretty ideal for both sides.  Nash’s contract expires in a year and the 76ers have to work to reach the salary floor this year while keeping their future capsheet clean.  They also played at a furious pace to inflate MCW’s stats, almost no one rates MCW as better than Exum or Smart.  The Lakers are rarely interested in developing talent and would prefer to be good sooner rather than later to prevent Kobe from getting grumpy.  If the Lakers sign Pau to a decent contract (3 years/$24mil?) they could offer Melo or Lebron close to max money.

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  • #924743
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    dcase
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    If Nash was traded to the 76ers, his contract may not stay on the books.  Nash has said in the past that if LA were to trade him he would retire.  He has his kids with him in LA, so having to move to Philly would be tough on himfrom a family standpoint.

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  • #924873
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    If Nash was traded to the 76ers, his contract may not stay on the books.  Nash has said in the past that if LA were to trade him he would retire.  He has his kids with him in LA, so having to move to Philly would be tough on himfrom a family standpoint.

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  • #924753
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    Chad Ford has the Grizzlies taking TJ Warren at 22.  A local sports radio guy has us taking TJ Warren 100% if he is on the board at 22.

    The buzz from our workouts just sounded like nobody wow’ed us. 

    The Grizzlies supposedly want to get into the second round.  If so, Jarnell Stokes might be the guy to get in the 2nd round.  We worked him out, it sounded good (he actually worked out against Isaiah Austin), and he is a local kid who used to have Grizzlies season tickets (nose bleeds) a few years ago.

     

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  • #924882
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    Chad Ford has the Grizzlies taking TJ Warren at 22.  A local sports radio guy has us taking TJ Warren 100% if he is on the board at 22.

    The buzz from our workouts just sounded like nobody wow’ed us. 

    The Grizzlies supposedly want to get into the second round.  If so, Jarnell Stokes might be the guy to get in the 2nd round.  We worked him out, it sounded good (he actually worked out against Isaiah Austin), and he is a local kid who used to have Grizzlies season tickets (nose bleeds) a few years ago.

     

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  • #924981
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     Really Utah is that high Aaron Gordon. I seriously doubt it. He had a great workout in Utah, he can be like AK. but would you rather have the next AK over Embiid? I don’t think so. Yeah Embiid is injured but its not like drafting Embiid is going to hurt the Jazz. They still have Favors and Kanter as big man. They can just start those two until Embiid is healthy. Then once he is healthy try Embiid and Favors together, Embiid and Kanter together, and compare that to what you get out of Kanter and Favors. Whichever you like better, you stick with and trade the odd man out (I think it will be Kanter. Would you rather have the next Tim Duncan with a potential injury or the next AK? And whatever happened to whomever Orlando doesn’t select of Exum or Vonleh. I really like both of those prospects over Gordon. But I still wouldn’t select Exum or Vonleh over Embiid. You don’t risk once in a lifetime center for unproven commodity. That’s just dumb.

    I think the Jazz saying that they like Gordon as the next AK over Embiid is just a smokescreen. Its still Vonleh or Exum at 5. Embiid won’t be there. He’s going 3rd or 4th. 

     

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  • #924852
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     Really Utah is that high Aaron Gordon. I seriously doubt it. He had a great workout in Utah, he can be like AK. but would you rather have the next AK over Embiid? I don’t think so. Yeah Embiid is injured but its not like drafting Embiid is going to hurt the Jazz. They still have Favors and Kanter as big man. They can just start those two until Embiid is healthy. Then once he is healthy try Embiid and Favors together, Embiid and Kanter together, and compare that to what you get out of Kanter and Favors. Whichever you like better, you stick with and trade the odd man out (I think it will be Kanter. Would you rather have the next Tim Duncan with a potential injury or the next AK? And whatever happened to whomever Orlando doesn’t select of Exum or Vonleh. I really like both of those prospects over Gordon. But I still wouldn’t select Exum or Vonleh over Embiid. You don’t risk once in a lifetime center for unproven commodity. That’s just dumb.

    I think the Jazz saying that they like Gordon as the next AK over Embiid is just a smokescreen. Its still Vonleh or Exum at 5. Embiid won’t be there. He’s going 3rd or 4th. 

     

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  • #924999
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    celtics1982
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    Come on, I really like Embiid, but once in a lifetime?  I don’t think so, he’s not that good, he’s no where near a Tim Duncan type player.  Yes he has a lot of potential, but he also has some major bust potential, that’s before we factor in the injuries.  I really like Embiid, but he’s closer to Drummonds, then Duncan.  

    I’m a Celtics fan and would want my team to select him, but we are just starting our rebuild, don’t have many young players yet.  Utah has a whole team of young players selected in the lottery.  Your time is now, before you have to resign all your young players and don’t have any cap space.  I would look at Vonleh, Smart, Exum and Randle as my pick.  Vonleh and Exum are most likely to be gone, that leaves Smart and Randle.  For some reason I really like Randle at 5.  Think he fills a big need and could become a go to option in the post in year one. 

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  • #924870
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    celtics1982
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    Come on, I really like Embiid, but once in a lifetime?  I don’t think so, he’s not that good, he’s no where near a Tim Duncan type player.  Yes he has a lot of potential, but he also has some major bust potential, that’s before we factor in the injuries.  I really like Embiid, but he’s closer to Drummonds, then Duncan.  

    I’m a Celtics fan and would want my team to select him, but we are just starting our rebuild, don’t have many young players yet.  Utah has a whole team of young players selected in the lottery.  Your time is now, before you have to resign all your young players and don’t have any cap space.  I would look at Vonleh, Smart, Exum and Randle as my pick.  Vonleh and Exum are most likely to be gone, that leaves Smart and Randle.  For some reason I really like Randle at 5.  Think he fills a big need and could become a go to option in the post in year one. 

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    • #924971
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       I see what you mean, but I still don’t like Randle at 5. If Exum and Vonleh are gone at 5, then I’m like Aaron Gordon at 5 like this post suggests. Gordon can play the 3 as well as the 4. I would like to see him in a big lineup of Burke, Hayward, Gordon, Favors, and Kanter. I also hope that his defense is contagious and will get Kanter to play better D.

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      • #925004
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        I understand your opinion, but I just don’t see Gordon as a three.  Can he defend threes, sure can, but he’ll kill your floor spacing.  You’d be starting three non shooters, which doesn’t really work in todays NBA.  If the Jazz take Gordon he’ll be a 4 in the NBA, unless he some how learns how to shoot.  Given the choice of Randle or Gordon, I’ll chose Randle.  You already have Favors as a stud D man, so putting Randle next to him makes sense.

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      • #925132
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        I understand your opinion, but I just don’t see Gordon as a three.  Can he defend threes, sure can, but he’ll kill your floor spacing.  You’d be starting three non shooters, which doesn’t really work in todays NBA.  If the Jazz take Gordon he’ll be a 4 in the NBA, unless he some how learns how to shoot.  Given the choice of Randle or Gordon, I’ll chose Randle.  You already have Favors as a stud D man, so putting Randle next to him makes sense.

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    • #925100
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       I see what you mean, but I still don’t like Randle at 5. If Exum and Vonleh are gone at 5, then I’m like Aaron Gordon at 5 like this post suggests. Gordon can play the 3 as well as the 4. I would like to see him in a big lineup of Burke, Hayward, Gordon, Favors, and Kanter. I also hope that his defense is contagious and will get Kanter to play better D.

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  • #925052
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    burgessfour
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     Nash & 7 for MCW & Thad……….let’s not make it easy on the Lakers, that trade is a joke.

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  • #924923
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    burgessfour
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     Nash & 7 for MCW & Thad……….let’s not make it easy on the Lakers, that trade is a joke.

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