NBA All-Star Reserves
Tim Duncan doesn't deserve to be an all-star this year. 14 and 9 only playing 29 minutes a game. K-Love is averaging 21 & 15 while shooting 44 from 3, Z-Bo is averaging 20 and 13 and Aldridge is averaging 21 and 9. All more deserving this year than Duncan.
He is putting up ridiculous numbers, I think he deserves it more this year and that is my honest opinion. He is playing the same competition night in and night out. It's not his fault he has the worst starting pg, sg, and center playing alongside him in the NBA.
If you're one to put record into account, then you could replace Aldridge or Z-Bo over Duncan. If it were any other year, I would be fine putting Duncan in there, but not when these other guys are having career years.
ok im not a hater people, but i dont think joe johnson should be on this roster. imo. i think his teammae josh smith deserved it more! i can name a few people i think should have made it: (and tell me if you agree)
1) joe johnson
2)kevin garnett
3)pau gasol
im iffy on bosh.
Did you not read my above post? I said if you have a problem putting Love in there based on record, Z-Bo and Aldridge are more deserving than Duncan.
Z-Bo isn't shooting 44% from three and 87 from the line. Kevin Love has shot 150 three's this year, yet he is still leading the league in offensive rebouds, I think that is a pretty ridiculous stat.
I think Kevin Love should be in it, but if it were Aldridge or Randolph who made it ahead of him, I wouldn't have a problem. I do however have a problem with Duncan making it over all three of them.
Two rebounds is a HUGE difference... For example, 10rpg is definitely more impressive than 8rpg, right? The difference between 10 and 8 is being either a good rebounder or medicore/below average rebounder. 15rpg is ridiculous in this era. Grabbing rebounds on a bad team really isn't the same as scoring a lot of points on a bad team. Just ask Brook Lopez.. He definitely debunks that idea.
Honestly, in my opinion, Duncan shouldn't even be in consideration compared to Aldridge, Love, Odom, and Griffin. Love definately got shafted. He's the league leader in boards for God's sake! Its funny, me and Sir Charles, usually never agree when I hear his analysis, but he hit this one on the head in my book, the league is giving out lifetime achievement awards. And don't even get me started on the East. They could have slid Josh Smith or Danny Granger in over Joe Johnson and Chris Bosh in my opinion. I don't like the East line up at all.
URBAN and BTPH have to be outraged. Both of y'all were adamant about Blake and Love not making it because they are on losing teams and therefore does not deserve it
And Whats the difference between Zbo and Blake. Zbo team is fighting for a playoff spot while the other two teams are bad, t wolves are at the bottom and the Clippers are still a game behind where they were last year at this same point in the season
Josh Smith over Bosh based off of what? Scoring Bosh by 3. Rebounding Smith by .7 team wins?..Heat. What would be the argument that Josh Smith makes it over Bosh?
Indiana is almost 10 games under.500 and Grangers numbers are lower than Joe who's team is fourth in the playoff race. What would be you're argument as to why Granger makes it over Joe?
With the game being in LA and the January Blake had, I figured he would get in. I think LaMarcus Aldridge is more deserving because that is a crippled team that could easily be among the worst in the West holding onto a winning record, but I'm not outraged. I am just amazed by how some people think minimal statistical differences matter more than a players impacting wins and losses.
My official snubs: Josh Smith is really the only snub in my opinion. Who should have been cut KG or Chris Bosh, take your pick but if I had to lean I would have left off Bosh. The west looks about right. I can see the complaints towards Griffin because his team isn't great but he has been dominant lately and his team is better than Minny by a decent margin(basically this spot was open to love or griffin but blake won with a better team record). Tim Duncan was obvious because the Spurs were no way gonna have 1 allstar. Nash has had an all star year but that spot should be for Lamarcus Aldridge in my opinion. He has taken that next step and keeping that team in decent shape.
Theres gonna be alot of angry players since Blake got in on a losing team. They are gonna wonder why they weren't picked and they will be right in there argument
Tim Duncan should NOT have gotten in. This was clearly a lifetime achievement award because there were other forwards who have played better then him
Honestly, I just like J Smoove better than Bosh. They have been similar players on good teams. Also, I hate that Bosh's rebounds have dropped by 4 this year even tho he is the only big guy on the team that gets big minutes. And I think J smoove impacts the game on defense alot more than bosh.
First off I never understood the correllation between team wins and all star considerations. Its and individual accolade. Under the team wins logic, Bosh is more deserving than Blake Griffin, and that's complete BS.
Let's look at the impact they have on their respective teams. Bosh can go out there and score 13 ppg for the rest of the season and the Heat will still be a top three seed. Smith is wayyy more important and impactful for his team than Bosh is. He's a better defender both post and perimeter, he plays out of position effectively (Smith is more of a SF) and since we're analyzing stats, Smith averages more steals and blocks than Bosh does. Hell Bosh is like the 4th best shot blocker on his team.
That's because he has Lebron and Dwade on his team rebounding. Did he have anyone on the raptors team getting rebounds like lebron?..I think Bron averages more boards then Andrea did and Wade is probably close and Anthony is probably close as well
Smith defense actually isn't as good as people think. Draft express or Espn did a lil study about defense and smith is actually not a very good defender. He blocks shots but his man still scores on him alot. Smith isn't a small forward because his handles and jumper isn't full time small forward worthy. And if he was on the heat they could win with him scoring just 13 as well because they have two of the best players in the League on there team. Smith is never gonna be a first option on any team. With Bosh we already know he can be a first option on a playoff team
To be honest i could care less though sinc ei got my tickets to the Allstar games and Kenny Smith Annual Allstar party. I'm Glad Blake made it so i can see what Dunks he will do int he Allstar game since there wont be alot of defense out there
Then why isn't tony Parker on the Allstar team because he has played better then duncan?...How come Shaq isn't on the Allstar team over Duncan? Odom over Blake? Richard jefferson? Duncan isn't the only one on that team and he isn't the main reason they have been winning
If his name wasn't Tim duncan and instead it was Blair putting up his numbers and doing what he's doing Blair doesn't make the AllStar team because although Duncan has been solid he has not played like a Allstar. He has not been a better player then Zbo,Lamarcus,Odom etc
Oh i agree. i think Dwill should be on there over Parker. My point is if Duncan is up there because of the 40-8 record then Parker has ever right to be there as well if we are going by there team record because Duncan obviously shouldn't be up there because of what he has done as a individual. If the argument works that he should be up there because of team record then the same argument should be made for Parker who has been just as important if not more so for there record
Oh I agree Parker is deserving, but the problem is that there are 4 other point guards, plus a shooting guard on the bubble. Steve Nash has been playing well, as well as Monta Ellis. If there is anyone on the bubble for Yao's spot, I would in fact choose Ellis, but that is another argument for another time. Parker is deserving, but he would in fact be the 3rd PG elected to the team.
yea the numbers are down a bit but look at it this way would the spurs have the best record in the league of zbo love or alrdige were there instead of him the answer is a big ol heck no timmy is still the glue to this team i do hope k love gets in his reboudning numbers this year are off the charts
The same could be said about Duncan at power forward. There was wayyyy more competition at the PF spot
We can't go by if someone else was on this or that team because we don't know what they could do. Zbo has shown he can score or rebound regardless what team he is on. Point is if you go by team record Parker has just as much of a case if not better then Duncan.
Everyone knows this is a lifetime achievement pick Even former players have said it before the roster was picked on NBA tv and Espn although indirectly if Duncan made it
How does Chris Bosh suck?
He sucked early this season because Brook Lopez got more rebounds than him and he shot 42%. (B-Lo joke, wrong thread sorry).
But now he looks great. He plays next to two top five player and shoots the ball efficiently. And he shoots over 50%, he might reach something like 53%. That's a good complementary player.
especially after this year too many considerations are left out. (Mostly on the West but still) How about a 15 man roster for all-star games starting next season? I mean, I know they reward players who win but for some of these players whose records stink, all they have recogniztion for the season is an All-star nod. 15 man rosters, considering some of the older players like Kobe, Dirk, Duncan who probably will still get voted in but won't play as many minutes anymore might love that idea and I think fans would too
All-Star Game is about excitement. Put exciting athletic and talented players in and leave the boring old ones. They put up stats and are on good teams, but that doesn't make them exciting! Give them what they deserve in the All-NBA Teams and give us a show! I mean, really!
That's the fun of selecting the reserves and IT SHOULD remain 7... We wouldn't be debating who got snubbed if the league expands the roster...
I felt like Josh Smith was having a great year again and he gets snubbed for the third year in a row... It's been frustrating to look at it...
The guys over at CBS have been updating a blog with the AS Reserves based on Yahoo! reports.
All-Star Reserves:
West:
The commish replacement for Yao Ming hasn't been determined, so Aldridge, Love, and Z-Bo still have a shot.
East: