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NBA 2k12 Online Association...

Can you or can you not use draft classes from the 2k share in online association?


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No idea man

Will try to find out. Are you making Draft Classes again? If so, my only advice is to try and use the position averages (like "Average Starting PG", "Average Starting SG", etc) as a gauge. I appreciate the time you put into it, most definitely, but I felt like some of the players were not as realistic as they maybe could have been. Just a suggestion, either way I think it is cool that you do what you do.

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I agree with you...

I agree....... NBA 2k11 was not my best work by a long shot, but now Im really putting in the time with my 2k12 classes. Thats why Im asking for people input with the ratings for this draft.... I might only be able to put out a 2012 +2013 class only though. I mean want to do 2012- 2017 and I have the resources too, but now when you create rookies the game asks for the actual birthdate and not the ages like the previous games. Its bad enough that I cant put in Andre Drummonds real D.O.B, so Im not even going to try. Mabey the age thing will change with the "ROOKIE DOWNLOAD". I was thinking this for ratings....

- Andre Drummond 79 overall

- Harrison Barnes 77 overall

- Anthony Davis 75 overall

- Jared Sullinger 73 overall

- Jeremy Lamb 71 overall

(What do you think?)

I lowered the ratings to align them with the current ratings in the game, and gave each player thier correct potential rating.

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My opinion

Those are slightly high, definitely really high for rookies. I just think they should start off as being lower and build up over time. I just have a feeling that as rookies, maybe only Sullinger would justify his rating. I would think something closer to this:

Drummond: 72. I know this is seen as really low, but, I think it is high for a rookie C (which where I am guessing you would put him, as much as some call him a PF). DeMarcus Cousins is a 71 right now, and he has a fantastic skill set, albeit not even close to Andre's athleticism. I would give Andre a potential rating that would be in the mid 90's or so, which is definitely elite and he might not live up to in real life, but he has a very high ceiling, which I think you take into account in this type of game.

Harrison Barnes: 75. He could be slightly higher, 77 is not horrible, but I think this is pretty good for him. I am guessing that as a rookie, Barnes will probably be a middle of the line type starting SF. He has potential to be much better, but I am guessing he will not be dominating the position. I think 75 would be a great rating for him, and would even put him above a number of talented SF's who are 74's. His potential should also be high, I was thinking Paul Pierce, who has his as 95. The thing most people seem to get confused with is potential is how a player develops in general, and it does not go down over time. Your player peaks at a certain point, but it still will take into account how your player declines in their later years. I would not have Barnes potential as high as Pierce, but somewhere in the low 90's might be sufficient.

Anthony Davis: 74. Could probably even be lower, to be honest. I think the guy is going to be a tremendous player, but it will be an adjustment to the NBA. He has monster potential and a great skill set, but I would probably temper my expectations of him as a rookie. His potential could be really high as well, just do not think he should be as high as a Sullinger or Barnes as a rookie.

Jared Sullinger: 76. Think this guy will have a quick transition to the NBA. With this being said, his potential should be significantly lower than the other three I just mentioned. The guy is incredibly skilled and is not going to be pushed around easily. Think that he will have a great rookie year, but will he be the best player in the Draft? I am guessing not, even if he may be the most ready to contribute. Kevin Love has a 82 at potential, thinking Sullinger should be in that range. Not saying they are the same type of player, but they have definite similarities in body and strengths, think the development will be similar as well.

Jeremy Lamb: 69. I do not want you to think I am nitpicking, but I just think that the odds are, Lamb is not going to dominate as a rookie SG. Wesley Johnson is a 70, DeMar DeRozan is a 69 (which seems way to low, but still) and I think Lamb will probably be around their range as a rookie. He will definitely get better over time, but I think starting these guys a little lower is more realistic. Keep in mind, it will all depend on the situation as to what they will average or whether they will start, but I think using the average starter as a gauge is good.

I used to love giving guys high ratings, but I feel like this game is not made for it, and that while basketball evolves and these players could indeed become All-Stars, it is no sure thing. We have no idea as to whether these guys will develop into Top 10 talents in the NBA, which this game has down pretty well outside of not including Dirk Nowitzki due to the complexity of their rating system (He is to slow to be an amazing SF in the game and to "soft" to be rated as high as he should be as a PF). Dirk is an anomaly and some ratings are obviously off a bit, but if you start these guys low, odds are they still turn into players in the mix for All-Star contention, or even more in the right situation. Right now, Amare Stoudemire is an 88, and the 10th best rated player in the game. My guess is these guys will not be much better than that. They could be, but if they are all around that after a few years, it will just not be very realistic.

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Thanks....

Thanks for the great input I will definetly use what all you just gave me.... i espesially like ur point about Drummond's rating vs Cousin's. And ur also spot on with Lambs rating as this year is supposed to be weak in PG's. Im not sure bout Davis rating though..... Where would you rank Terrence Jones ? I think he is better than Davis rite now, but Davis will give you more in long term.

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Wassup ShamoN. Remember me?

Wassup ShamoN. Remember me? I'm eazye1296. I joined your Madden 11 online franchise, but never played in it.

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Hey wazz up WIZ.....

Whats up WizardofOz....? Im like more than 1/2 way complete with my 2k12 NBA mock draft. I have all the player ratings, abilities, potential rating, and players types done. Im now working on the faces, tattoos, and shoes. Im gonna take my time going thru this class because Im in no rush to post because of the NBA lockout. I would really like the chance to compare my draft class ratings with the incoming rookie class ratings. The higest player rated in my draft is Andre Drummond, and his rating is a 75 with a potential of 95, and the ratings have been tested in Association Mode over and over... Im currently offline with XBOX live so I have no way of looking at the draft classes other ppl posted, or checking to see if we can use draft classes in ONLINE ASSOCIATION mode. So with that being said, if anyone know the answer please feel free to let me know..... and who has the best draft class @ the moment, and how is the work in it?

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I think he is better in college

But not necessarily in the NBA. He is in between positions, my guess is that he will play SF, but his athleticism is not on the level of Davis. Really like Jones, think 69 or 70 would be best. Jeremy Lamb is a SG, for real, do not think that he converts to PG for the NBA. I would call him a combo wing (SG/SF) due to his insane length. I think any higher for Jones would probably be a mistake. Looking at Davis' rating I think it is to high as well. I would start Davis off many a point or two higher, but have Davis at PF and Jones at SF.

Here would be my ultimate player range right now. I do not have the game open for reference like I did yesterday, but I am just guessing the averages and such. I will let you worry about potential, but I would say that you should look at players you see them comparable to, in the long or short term, and try to use that to fuse potential.

Here are my Top 5 by position break downs, trying to keep it as close as I can without turning the game on, lol. Keep in mind these are the top rated prospects, not necessarily the best picks or the guys with the highest potential. Just the ones I see being the best out of the gate. So, I hope it works out where Drummond, Davis and Barnes are the first drafted and not Sullinger:

PG:

1. Marquis Teague: 67

2. Myck Kabongo: 66

3. Tony Wroten: 66 (possibly lower, but I think he is a likely one and done, despite not being on mock right now)

4. Kendall Marshall: 64

5. Maalik Wayns: 63

SG

1. Austin Rivers: 71

2. Bradley Beal: 70

3. Jeremy Lamb: 69

4. Terrence Ross: 67

5. Doron Lamb: 64

SF

1. Harrison Barnes: 75

2. Quincy Miller: 71

3. Michael Kidd-Gilchrist: 69

4. Terrence Jones: 69

5. LeBryan Nash: 67 (Think he is one and done, even though not on the current mock)

PF (I will do 8, since it is such a stacked position)

1. Jared Sullinger: 76

2. Anthony Davis: 73 (Like this better)

3. James Michael McAdoo: 71

4. Perry Jones III: 70 (Yes, I think the other three are going to be better right away, and should be ranked higher)

5. Thomas Robinson: 65

6. John Henson: 64

7. CJ Leslie: 62

8. Trevor Mbakwe: 60

C

1. Andre Drummond: 72

2. Tyler Zeller: 63 (Big drop off, for sure)

3. Josh Smith: 62

4. DeWayne Dedmon: 58

5. Festus Ezeli: 57

Sure they are not perfect, but just try to gauge them based on where you feel there place would be in the league or on a team. I think that is better than just trying to go off of what feels right. The rankings have changed a lot over the years, but even if a player is ranked low, they still can contribute in areas they excel in.

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Andre Drummond 79 overall

Andre Drummond 79 overall

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I like it....

I like it.... and Im going to mold each rookie after a current NBA player like you said....(its gonna take a while though). And also I like Josh Smith, he was on draft boards last year. But I think he will be starring off the bench this year. (or at least thats what I read somewhere) But if he looses more weight and dominate the PAC-12 then he is definatly worth a pick. Other than that Im taking ur advice homie...

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Good stuff!

Thanks man, I will definitely be using your draft classes. Josh Smith may come off of the bench, he did that quite a bit last year as well. Last year, he only started 15 games out of 33, but the guy is a load down low. In a draft REALLY weak on Center's, he has a good chance of entering. His conditioning needs a lot of improvement, and he is not overly athletic, but he is long and really tough to keep out of the paint. As much as people are hyping up Dedmon, I think that Smith will be the Pac-12's best Center bar none. Even if he does not start, he will make a big impact. For all I know, UCLA may choose to start Reeves Nelson and the Wear twins, but I bet Josh Smith still is the person teams have the hardest time guarding.

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Wassup ShamoN. Remember me?

Wassup ShamoN. Remember me? I'm eazye1296. I joined your Madden 11 online franchise, but never played in it.

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previous years

Its a bit hard to predict the next draft classes after the next 2 or 3 years so i go back retro.

92 up to 97 i have done.

Let me know how to share and if anyone wants these ?

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I am looking to either

I am looking to either download or create draft classes from 2012-2016ish

Also, I am interested in downloading draft classes from somewhere in either the 80's or 90's all the way up until now.

I know I'm asking a lot, but does anybody have anything to help?

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- Jeremy Lamb 71 overall

- Jeremy Lamb 71 overall

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I would recomend that you

I would recomend that you don't do a fantasy draft because in my experiences those with drafts never last because people that don't get good picks and teams quit but atleast with a non-fantasy draft people know what theyre getting going into the league and I'm in two right now both in the second season with high activity and 30 teams filled.

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