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My NBA Rankings

I'm doing a 30 for 30 NBA Season Preview and I wanted your opinons on the order. Right now, here's my order.

30. Minnesota Timberwolves
29. Indiana Pacers
28. Los Angeles Clippers
27. Detroit Pistons
26. Cleveland Cavaliers
25. Washington Wizards
24. Memphis Grizzlies
23. Toronto Raptors
22. New Jersey Nets
21. Golden State Warriors
20. Sacramento Kings
19. Charlotte Bobcats
18. Philadelphia 76ers
17. New Orleans Hornets
16. Phoenix Suns
15. New York Knicks
14. Atlanta Hawks
13. Utah Jazz
12. Milwaukee Bucks
11. Oklahoma City Thunder
10. Houston Rockets
9. Dallas Mavericks
8. Denver Nuggets
7. Portland Trial Blazers
6. San Antonio Spurs
5. Chicago Bulls
4. Boston Celtics
3. Miami Heat
2. Orlando Magic
1. Los Angeles Lakers

What do you think of the order, Did I miss a team? Who should be moved up? Who should be moved down?


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New Orleans is too high (and

New Orleans is too high (and i'm a hornets fan)

Memphis is too low

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Hey thanks for the opinion. I

Hey thanks for the opinion. I will bump this up a couple times. This isin't where I believe they will end up next season just some type of rankings for my season preview.

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no i know thats just my

no i know thats just my opinion i'm not attacking you because i also believe utah is being overated

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Utah at 13 is a little high?

Utah at 13 is a little high?

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i would move clippers and

i would move clippers and grizzlies both up and drop knicks and bucks

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wizards

wizards shouldnt be so low...theyr gona have a pretty nice backcourt in wall,arenas and hinrich(who is probably on of the most under rated players in the league)

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bucks at 12

the bucks at twelve should move up and the bulls at 5 the bulls are not close to a top five team in my opion

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LL, where should be Clips and

LL, where should be Clips and Griz be

Bucks fan- where should Bucks and Bulls be?

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The rockets are too high yao

The rockets are too high yao wont play that much this season I see them sneakin in the playoffs

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i would put the grizz ahead

i would put the grizz ahead of the raptors, nets, warriors, kings, bobcats, 76ers and knicks

clippers i would put ahead of all those same teams except the 76ers

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i think the grizzlies HAVE to

i think the grizzlies HAVE to be ranked ahead of the nets...i would say move grizzlies to 18

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30. Minnesota

30. Minnesota Timberwolves
29. Cleveland Cavaliers
28.Indiana Pacers
27. Detroit Pistons
26. Washington Wizards
25. Los Angeles Clippers
24. Toronto Raptors
23.New Jersey Nets
22. Charlotte Bobcats
21. Golden State Warriors
20. Philadelphia 76ers
19. Memphis Grizzlies
18. New Orleans Hornets
17. Sacramento Kings
16. New York Knicks
15. Phoenix Suns
14. Atlanta Hawks
13. Utah Jazz
12. Milwaukee Bucks
11. Denver Nuggets
10. Oklahoma City Thunder
9. San Antonio Spurs
8. Houston Rockets
7. Dallas Mavericks
6. Portland Trial Blazers
5. Chicago Bulls
4. Boston Celtics
3. Miami Heat
2. Orlando Magic
1. Los Angeles Lakers

I see it going a little like this

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You had Cleveland too high.

You had Cleveland too high. Dude Byron Scott can't help that team.

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grizz

i dont see the grizz getting leapfrogged by that many teams

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I had to fix mine right quick

I had to fix mine right quick Memphis was too low

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1-lakers 2-heat 3-magic 4-cel

1-lakers
2-heat
3-magic
4-celtics
5-mavericks

6-rockets
7-bulls
8-blazers
9-nuggets
10-thunder

11-spurs
12-hawks
13-jazz
14-suns
15-grizzlies

16-hornets
17-bucks
18-76ers
19-clippers
20-knicks

21-nets
22-wizards
23-warriors
24-pistons
25-cavaliers

26-bobcats
27-pacers
28-raptors
29-kings
30-wolves

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I don't know how Sacramento

I don't know how Sacramento is the 2nd worst team in the NBA....

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well you have the pacers as

well you have the pacers as the second worst and i think they will be better then the kings. Dunleavy should be healthy and both he and murphy are in contract years so they will play well. Hibbert is getting better everyday. And if granger could stay healthy, he is an all-star. Add in paul george and brandon rush on the wings, ill give thme a slight edge over sacramento who will be trying to develop cousins down low and teams will make a more concentrated effort to slow down tyreke evans.

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llperez Indiana should be

llperez Indiana should be better but they would improve a lot more if they played their young players which would hurt them the season coming up but would set them up for greatness the following year after they add a top 3 pick to the those young players and Granger and Hibbett

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After thinking about it this is the update

30. Minnesota Timberwolves
29. Cleveland Cavaliers
28.Indiana Pacers
27. Detroit Pistons
26. Toronto Raptors
25. Los Angeles Clippers
24. Charlotte Bobcats
23.New Jersey Nets
22. Washington Wizards
21. Golden State Warriors
20. Philadelphia 76ers
19. Memphis Grizzlies
18. New Orleans Hornets
17. Sacramento Kings
16. New York Knicks
15.Utah Jazz
14. Atlanta Hawks
13. Milwaukee Bucks
12. Denver Nuggets
11. Phoenix Suns
10. Oklahoma City Thunder
9. San Antonio Spurs
8. Houston Rockets
7. Chicago Bulls
6. Dallas Mavericks
5. Portland Trial Blazers
4. Boston Celtics
3. Miami Heat
2. Orlando Magic
1. Los Angeles Lakers

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yeah, i have them finishing

yeah, i have them finishing bottom 5. Im not huge on them. But I was comparing them with the kings, who are also gonna play young guys like cousins, tyreke and omri casspi big minutes. I think the kings are heading in the right direction, but it might ont show in the wins and losses. A team starting beno udrih, omri casppi and either sameul dalembert or a rookie demarcus cousins is gonna go through some growing pains when you see how deep the west is.

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man, you tink the kings

man, you tink the kings finish ahead of the grizz sheltwon? other then tyreke evans, the grizz have a better starter at the other 4 positions.

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How awesome

How awesome would a Knicks(8) vs Heat(1) 1st rd playoff series be? 1999 all over again....

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perez that is my one bold

perez that is my one bold pick because you are right Grizz are more talented than Kings but Kings have a stronger front court and Tyreke. Tyreke has some Lebron in him in that he can carry a bunch of unknowns in the regular season. I also think Cousins is ready to play now. Kings could have won close to 40 games if not for that slippage when they tried to play Kevin Martin and Evans together and also when Evans got hurt. This year they should have better chemistry and lots of front court production and also I like Paul Wesphal as coach.

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dont agree at all that the

dont agree at all that the kings have a stronger front court then the grizz.

Gay, randolph and gasol are all borderline all-star caliber players. Casspi, landry and cousins/dalembert are not on that level. Maybe Landry is, but he's defenitely not better then randoplh who had the best season of his career last year.

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it wouldnt be awesome. It

it wouldnt be awesome. It would be a sweep

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perez all Grizz have is Gasol

perez all Grizz have is Gasol and Randolph which is plenty much but Sacramento have Cousins, Dalembert, Landry, Thompsom, and Whiteside. Also they have two small forward in Green and Cassipi who have great size for small forwards. Donte Green is like 6'10 with long arms.

Kings make up in depth what Grizz has in Gasol, Randolph

Grizz don't have a single player i feel that can carry a team.

I like Gay but he is not a leader just yet and Randolph as talented as he is ,is not a leader either

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oh and I don't see the

oh and I don't see the rockets ahead of the thunder imo. I'd say OKC goes about 7 or 8. They might be able to beat out the spurs

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Knicks82 I have it Knicks(7)

Knicks82 I have it Knicks(7) versus Miami(2)

Knicks will get 7th place and Miami as good as the 3 are will not have a better record than Orlando.

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why do you include donte

why do you include donte green and omri casspi for the kings frontcourt but not include gay for the grizz? And zach was a beast last year and made the all-star team and really looked like a guy who could carry a team. For the kings, thompson is nothing special and we cant say for sure what to expect from cousins or whiteside. I could also include thabeet if we are talking about depth with unproven players.

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Memphis and Sacramento are

Memphis and Sacramento are both alright teams. i don't see either making the playoffs next season.

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perez I did mentioned him in

perez I did mentioned him in that post but you are right I should have put him with the other front court players but the still does not change the fact that Kings are deeper in the front court. Having 5 or 6 solid front court players is pretty close to having 3 really great one. Also Evans does so much that giving this guy a front court to battle with will make him that much more dangerous.

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there are only 2 spot

there are only 2 spot difference. I can see if it was more than that but I feel they are close but I just like Kings better as a team

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Just sayin

Im just sayin a Knicks vs Heat series would be great for 1. Renew old rivalry and 2. The fact that Lebron spurned the Knicks would make it that much more interesting. Whether it would be a close series or not isnt a concern for me. I know plenty of Knick fans who would be thrilled just to make it in the Playoffs rite now as bad as the team has been the past 10 yrs.

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grizz won't be better than

grizz won't be better than sac cuz they can't play as a team. look at their players: at point?????/conley is really their only playmajer and he's proven that he can't really be a good player. Mayo is a scorer and he literally can't pass the ball, as is shown by his summer league performance....ITS FREAKIN SUMMER LEAGUE!! Gay is much like mayo to me but he has a different game. he isn't required to pass too much as a forward so its really not his fault. randolph is notoriously one of the most selfish players in the league, and with gasol, he's an energy, rebounds guy who doesn't do much more (he can score pretty well out of the post). individualy i really like the grizzlies, but i don't see them coming together very well at all. prove me wrong grizz!

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My ranking

30. Minnesota Timberwolves (Miss Playoffs)
29. Golden State Warriors (Miss Playoffs)
28. Toronto Raptors (Miss Playoffs)
27. Detroit Pistons (Miss Playoffs)
26. Cleveland Cavaliers (Miss Playoffs)
25. Washington Wizards (Miss Playoffs)
24. Philadelphia 76ers (Miss Playoffs)
23. New Jersey Nets (Miss Playoffs)
22. Indiana Pacers (Miss Playoffs)
21. Sacramento Kings (Miss Playoffs)
20. Charlotte Bobcats (8E)
19. New York Knicks (7E)
18. LA Clippers (Miss Playoffs)
17. Memphis Grizzlies (Miss Playoffs)
16. Houston Rockets (Miss Playoffs)
15. Phoenix Suns (Miss Playoffs)
14. New Orleans Hornets (8W)
13. Utah Jazz (7W)
12. Boston Celtics (4E)
11. Atlanta Hawks (6E)
10. Portland Trailblazers (6W)
9. Chicago Bulls (5E)
8. Milwaukee Bucks (3E)
7. Portland Trial Blazers (5W)
6. Denver Nuggets (4W)
5. Dallas Mavs (3W)
4. OKC Thunder (2W)
3. Orlando Magic (2E)
2. LA Lakers (1W)
1. Miami Heat (1E)

This is in terms of regular season record.

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what about OKC, i think they

what about OKC, i think they are a top 7 team..

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duhrant some bold selections.

duhrant some bold selections. I think OKC is that good but I just don't if they make that jump next year but it is definitely possibly. I would love for it to happen.

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WHAT?!!!?

The Timberwolves ranked 30??!!

Are you as crazy as David Kahn?!!?

We shouldn't be ranked 30th!!

We should be like 34th or 35th......

C'mon!!

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Knicks are way too high

The Knicks will be lucky to improve on last year, I think the Knicks are in the bottom 5 in the league.

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Smithers...you must watched

Smithers...you must watched the additions the Knicks made huh? Stop hating.

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Something like this

Something like this IMO...

30. Minnesota Timberwolves
29. Cleveland Cavaliers
28. Indiana Pacers
27. New Jersey Nets
26. Toronto Raptors
25. Washington Wizards
24. Detroit Pistons
23. Charlotte Bobcats
22. Golden State Warriors
21. Los Angeles Clippers
20. Philadelphia 76ers
19. New York Knicks
18. Sacramento Kings
17. New Orleans Hornets
16. Memphis Grizzlies
15. Phoenix Suns
14. Houston Rockets
13. Utah Jazz
12. Milwaukee Bucks
11. Atlanta Hawks
10. Denver Nuggets
9. San Antonio Spurs
8. Portland Trailblazers
7. Chicago Bulls
6. Oklahoma City Thunder
5. Dallas Mavericks
4. Boston Celtics
3. Miami Heat
2. Orlando Magic
1. Los Angeles Lakers

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Only a true Knick fan can

Only a true Knick fan can beleive that adding Amare and some marginal peices to a team that had nothing last year is gonna make them a playoff team. Granted I do like Randolph but I think he still needs some time

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Amare Stoudemire and Raymond

Amare Stoudemire and Raymond Felton are not bad pieces. Randolph could be a great player in D'Antoni's offense. Add Gallinari in his 3rd season along with Wilson Chandler?

That team could contend for the playoffs. I still don't understand how you call them a bottom 5 team in the NBA when all they did was improve. Not to mention they weren't a bottom 5 team last year. Still need to see the logic there.

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i have the knicks finishing

i have the knicks finishing 8th in the east. but there should be about 12 teams from the west who finish ahead of them.

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I think they can finish 7th.

I think they can finish 7th. I think the 15-20 range is good for them. I have them going 15.

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They could be a 7 or 8 seed

They could be a 7 or 8 seed in the East, that's not saying much considering the 7-8 seeds are usually very mediocre teams in the East, barely going .500. But they did improve, it's hard not to notice that at least...

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7th and 8th are wide open in

7th and 8th are wide open in the East...Any team could snag one of those spots. If I had to pick two teams I would pick NY and Cha...

Top 10

1.Miami
2.LA
3.Orl
4.Chi
5.Hou
6.Dal
7.Okc
8.Den
9.Mil
10.Atl

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I cannot put MIA number

I cannot put MIA number because we don't know what they are gonna be. I think LA is still number one as well.

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Jammin

Houston at 5? I guess theoretically that could happen, but there are some big "ifs" on the table. If Aaron brooks can do what he did last year on a team vying for a top 2 or 3 seed. If Kevin martin can turn into "the guy" on a contending team, and the biggest "if" of all, IF Yao Ming can stay healthy. They have a lot of talent, indeed. I just think they need to work on staying healthy, and maybe they could be that good. Scola continues to get better, brad Miller was a solid pick up to back up Ming. Martin is a first rate star, but can he do it with the spotlight on him? Aaron Brooks is a very solid PG, but will he be able to continue getting better, or has he hit his ceiling? A lot of questions remain with them...

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