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Most Talent, Least Returns

Chris Washburn. Not only did he not produce but he was out of the league and broke in no time.

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Toss-up between Vince Carter

Toss-up between Vince Carter and J.R. Smith for me; two extremely talented individuals who for different reasons didn't come close to reaching their potential. J.R. is still young, but I don't like his chances.

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Vince? Really? He will

Vince? Really? He will probably get into the HOF. How much better did you think he was going to be?

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Geez, where do we begin..

It is tough for me NOT to name high school stars who made the mistake of entering the draft early...

Gerald Green

Jonathan Bender

Anybody remember Lenny Cooke??? LOL

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Joe Alexander, he was drafted

Joe Alexander, he was drafted 8th over.all by the, i guess saw him playing for the texas legends in NBADL

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1. Sebastian Telfair 2.

1. Sebastian Telfair

2. Martell Webster

3. Shelden Williams

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Well

Well, I'd say Greg Oden, but that story is far from over, so there is no way we can make that judgement now. Telfair was a huge dissapointment as well.

I'd say Darko, but I'm not sure he had talent in the first place, lol.

Marbury had talent, as did so many others

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vince has had 10 seasons over

vince has had 10 seasons over 20 ppg, how did he not get a return?

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I'd have to say Darius Miles

I'd have to say Darius Miles he was the #2 pick never lived up to it he was all highlights and no real game or position in the league. And Eddy Curry he showed flashes in chicago and he never put it together especially with the rebounding.

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Whoa Surve!!!

Vince Carter is not a Hall Of Famer!!!!

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roy tarpley

also one of my favorite players no one has heard of played two years in the league nephew of george gervin could score from anywhere first year 47 percent field goal on almost 13 ppg major problem he would jack it up from anywhere and I do MEAN anywhere. ledell eackles also because of his funny way of wanting to run over people literally if either knew what self control was they would be a lot more known.

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I was referring to derrick gervin

sorry

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Len Bias comes to mind as he

Len Bias comes to mind as he never made the NBA due to tragic circumstances but I'd agree with most of the above. If you talk about injuries halting progress like ay Greg Oden then would Kenyon Martin come into that equation as he was a beast at NJ but injuries made him merely a role player at Denver.

Kwarme and Kandi man must also be considered and our old friend Darko!

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by the same token as bias

let us not forget ricky berry who committed suicide after only a year in the league he averaged 11 ppg

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I'm With you @surve. vince

I'm With you @surve. vince reached his potential he was a allstar for many years. He was talked about as a MJ type but no one ever thought he would become MJ. I don't know what ole boy is talking about as far as not coming close to reaching his potential. As a matter of fact he passed his inital potential because people thought he would be good but not one of the best in the NBA good

Same With Kmart. He was never considered much of a offensive player and even though he was the number 1 pick many didn't think he would be a Allstar

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FYI

@Chicago1980 D.Miles was the 3rd pick in that draft not #2.. But I agree with you on D.Miles and Eddy Curry..

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I forgot about Curry. I was

I forgot about Curry. I was never that impressed with Miles. He was never very skilled to me he was just long and athletic

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@cward

thanks bro, but do you agree with me that Vince is an HOFer? I was wondering why I was getting so many negs when I said that, apparently I am in the minority here with my opinion.

he was ROY, 8-time all-star, 2-time all-nba, slam dunk champ, and as TC said, he had 10 years with 20 plus ppg avg....

like I said, I may be in the minority here but I think thats enough to get there, not to mention he was an extremely popular player. the one major knock against him would have to be that he is not an NBA champion.

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@silenciizgolden

Roy Tarpley was a talent, drugs and boos cut his career short, I agree there. However I dont remember Derrick Gervin or Ledell Eackles being viewed with much upside. With Gervin, it was the name that hyped him up, he was a scorer and good rebounder but against limited opposition.

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Derrick Coleman should have

Derrick Coleman should have been a first ballot Hall-of-Famer but he had a few good years then didn't really improve like he should have. He, along with Drazen Petrovic was awesome in the 1993 playoffs. DC could do it all. Not sure why he didn't become a top NBA player like he should have been.

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He's not a first Ballot but i

He's not a first Ballot but i think Vince gets in. He should finish in the top 25 in scoring and every player that has made it there is in the Hall of Fame (or will be)

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how could we ever forget

billy owens

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and the biggest dssapointment

schea cotton - cover of sports illustrated nuff said

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and felipe lopez

sorry about so many posts but i keep remembering

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I know I am going to get negs

I know I am going to get negs for this, but I don't give &$#%#&@!. Lebron. hear me out on this, this guy is frickin 6-8, 270 pounds, he is the fastest guy out there, he can jump the highest, he has among the best handles, he plays some of the best defense, he can attack the basket everytime and get the foul, but no, he would rather take 30 foot fadeaways. He has no post game! If he got a post game he would be unstopable. He coasts at times. This guy should put up 33 9 and 9! I am &$#%#&@! serious. He should be able to dominate. I bet you whenever MJ and Kobe do talk, they mention that if either one of them had what Lebron has, they would have won 10 straight championships.

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Gerald Green... i was so high

Gerald Green...

i was so high on this dude and he just completely let me down...great dunker tho.

also i donno if a lot of you guys will remember him but i thought Qyntel Woods was gonna be a beast for some reason...he got caught fighting dogs and never came back lol

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lebron is a product of this generation

a workout and natural wonder beast but he lacks a lot of basketball player skills dave bings+mind lebrons body= unstoppable.

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@cward

Yeah, I wasnt thinking 1st ballot either but he gets there, actually anyone in the top 35 in scoring (which Carter is) is already in or will be in the HOF in the future. He is only 2000 pts from the top 25.

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Vince Carter will at least be

Vince Carter will at least be nominated to the HOF but, if he averaged next season with like 50 pts 8rbs 8ast per game and take his team ( what would it be) to the finals, i guess there would be a great chance,

But IF he averaged that Way Up

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Vince Carter is not a hall of

Vince Carter is not a hall of famer. I look at it like this Reggie Miller's career is far better than Vince and he even went to the finals and he didnt even make the HOF his first try. Vince was a good player but he never did anything in the playoffs.

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Reggie Miller was only

Reggie Miller was only eligible this year for HOF I believe, so there are several more chances for him to go in. If you do look at all the other top scorers in NBA history then the guys who are still active or just retired and in the top 35 who will go straight into the HOF are likely to be Shaq,Kobe,KG,Dirk,Tim Duncan and AI with Ray Allen and Paul Pierece perhaps likely to make it but maybe not on first year eligibility if some of the above are up against them.

Gerry Peyton will surely go in when he is eligible in a couple of years so you have the above plus other HOF certs like Steve Nash and Jason Kidd who may well retire about the same time as those above and create a HOF logjam. Add in say Mutombo,Lonzo Mourning, Ben Wallace, T-Mac and Grant Hill to name but 5 and you perhaps have nearly 20 HOF contenders if you include Vince Carter so I feel a few may miss out or have to wait several years like Artis Gilmore who got in this year finally.

Also when we talk about Len Bias please remember the Celtics tragically also lost Reggie Lewis at only 27 years old when he had become a 20ppg player.

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If we're counting injuries,

If we're counting injuries, on and off the court:

Jay Williams

Shaun Livingston

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