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Most Overrated Draft Prospect

In this upcoming NBA Draft, which player is being the most overhyped?


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I keep hearing people say

I keep hearing people say Porter is a top 3 pick or even number 1....In any other year people would be mentioning him as going in the middle of the 1st round....

This talk of Porter going 1st ,reminds me of a decade ago when people were saying Shane Battier should be the 1st pick, Battier has been a solid role player,but not the type you'll pick in the top 5..But since the crop of players available this year,alot of guys will be going much higher,then they would in any other draft...

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I think Bennett. He just

I think Bennett. He just doesn't look like a guy that is going to be much more than a Trevor Booker type guy at the next level. On the court he looks around 6'6" compared to other guys, and I'm not a huge measurements guy, but if he goes top 5, I think that is overrating his impact as a pro. I'd take him late lotto.

I was dead wrong with Ike Diagu, and I see a lot of similarities between the two.

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I think he is a specimen

I think he is a specimen, wolf, he's at least 6'7. He is gonna get bigger and stronger, his wingspan and hands make him throw dunks off two feet with such vert and strength that i can see him a force in the pick and pop/ roll. He has that shot that improving really fast.
Despite what people say about him being soft or whatever are wrong imho. He works it, but he is not really a low post player so there is no reasoner him to be fighting for position download when he can be out in the perimeter being an open lane threat, catch and shoot, and offensive rebounds.
I think he's gonna be a decent player. Though I can see why you might not like him.

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Michael Carter Williams. He

Michael Carter Williams. He can't shoot and will have a lot of trouble scoring at the next level. He is a very good passer and pretty good defender but we have seen him mostly play zone at Syracuse. If any team takes him in the lottery I think they will be disappointed. He has a good amount of potential but I don't think he will ever be a consistent enough scorer to be a quality starting point guard in the NBA.

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As most of those points, and

As most of those points, and the turnover issue that you didn't mention, apply to Marcus Smart as well, I'll say Marcus Smart, too.

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Not to mention he is already

Not to mention he is already the age of a senior and I really think that zone helps cover up the fact that a lot of players can't guard man to man

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It's an easy excuse to use

It's an easy excuse to use when judging Syracuse players, but:
1. MCW is one of the top 3 zone defenders that school has ever had.
2. He still got drawn out on other players and had to defend them straight up a lot; ex: in the Michigan game, he got isolated on Burke a few times and Burke couldn't make any progress towards the hoop at all.
3. Watching MCW on the defensive end, he just has incredible instincts, and coupled with his length, he's a handful to deal with. How many times this season did a team try to push the ball up the floor and before they could even get across half court, MCW had stripped them and taken it the other way for an easy bucket? A lot of times.

MCW's flaws are pretty apparent by now. The jumpshot, the age, some bad habits that result in turnovers, high dribble, etc; but I think he'll be a very good defender and passer at the next level, and I expect his jump shot won't look as bad after an off-season of working on it. He was a great shooter in high school, and still has pretty sound mechanics. His shot isn't broken like a lot of guys going to the league; it just isn't good yet.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he ends up being the best PG in this year's draft.

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I think Doug Mcdermott is

I think Doug Mcdermott is pretty overrated, at 22.

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Many will disagree with me on

Many will disagree with me on this, but I just don't see star potential with Shabazz Muhammad. I'm just not sold on him at all.

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I love how a year ago I was

I love how a year ago I was telling everyone I would take Jabari Parker and Andrew Wiggins over him any day and getting negs rained on me,I've just never been a real big fan of his,I never saw him as a number 1 overall prospect and thought people where crazy for him putting him as a top 5 sg in 5 years

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ALL OF THEM! but Anthony

ALL OF THEM! but Anthony Bennett. He will play PF on the next level and he maybe 6-7.

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I'm not too high on Marcus

I'm not too high on Marcus Smart. He's a solid player all around with few weaknesses, but I don't see any one area of his game that is truly NBA level aside from his strength and size. I'm not saying he isn't an NBA player, I just don't see the upside to pick him in the top 5. I feel like this draft is pretty weak overall so I'd shoot for someone with crazy potential that needs to be developed.

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Marcus Smart isn't that great

Marcus Smart isn't that great of a player, you are correct. But he has a big impact on games that goes beyond his actual production. That's why he will go high.

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hmmm

most overrated prospect? well, how about this entire draft class?

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I think Shabazz is severely

I think Shabazz is severely overrated by some people, but not by others. There seem to be a lot of misconceptions about his game, perhaps driven by his high school hype. He doesn't actually move well without the ball, as he doesn't get a lot of separation coming off screens and can clog up spacing by shadowing the ball, as he can't seem to stand not having the ball in his hands. He works hard on the offensive glass, but not the defensive. And for all the talk that he is a solid defender who just doesn't gamble, I think that is giving him too much credit. He provides very little ball pressure, but still gets beaten off the dribble frequently. The number of times he is beaten isn't acceptable considering how little pressure he puts on opposing players. And I don't think he can create his shot well enough or is a dangerous enough shooter for NBA teams to run plays for him. He has serious bust potential if he goes in the lottery. He just is one of those players who isn't nearly as good as his stats would make him seem.

To make a less obvious choice, I would say Nate Wolters. I have kind of like him in the past, but I don't think he is a first rounder. I just don't think his game translates well to the NBA. He has a solid handle, but I am not convinced he can beat NBA PGs off the dribble and I think his mid-range game and the assortment of runners and floaters he takes in the lane will be much less effective in the NBA. And he will be torched on the defensive end in the NBA. He quite simply is not an explosive enough athlete to make it in today's NBA.

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I agree with both those

I agree with both those points. I think people that say Shabazz had a "really good" freshman year are strictly looking at stats cuz besides his outside shooting being a little better than expected I would say a lot of his other skills that were supposed to be strengths coming out of high school looked pretty mediocre (athleticism, defense, ability to get his own shot). Some of that may be due to the injury, but as of right now I don't see him doing much in the NBA.

Wolters kind of reminds me of Luke Ridnour. Decent handle, good outside shooter, nice array of floaters, pretty good passer, but I don't see him doing much in the NBA either and the fact he's projected 1st round shows how weak this class really is. MAYBE a back up point guard on a bad team, but that's about it.

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Smart

Marcus Smart is very overrated imo. He can defend and rebound which could possibly make him an Avery Bradley-type player, but I don't see him being Wade or Harden or even Westbrook, which are the comparisons I hear most about him. I just can't see it.

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Anyone who has compared him

Anyone who has compared him to Westbrook has either never seen Smart play or never seen Westbrook play. I actually like the Bradley comparison as far as being a defensive-minded player, but he's alot bigger than Bradley and has better PG skills IMO.

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Yup

I could see Smart being a defensive-first PG, but he'll really have to work on his decision-making to become a solid starting point guard.

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Ben Mclemore has the

Ben Mclemore has the potential to be a very good pro but lets face it- he is the worst overall #1 pick projection since Andrea Bargnani in 2006 in terms of current ability and potential. He will not be star at the next level, but rather a good piece/ secondary scorer and few time all-star potentially. I understand that good shooting guards are now at a premium in today's NBA but he simply will not be an elite shooting guard like Kobe, Dwayne Wade, James Harden or Ray Allen when he was in his prime.

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glen robinson III is

glen robinson III is overrated for this draft (love his talent though)... not much perimeter skills at this point.. just a guy who can get some alley oops and spot up jumpers... RETURN TO SCHOOL where u can become a better player... no point of a team to waste a lottery pick on a guy whos gnna end up being in the d-league most of the yr

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One thing

I undertsnad people saying Shabazz is overhyped. I dont believe it but I cant argue against it because he did not overwhelm me this year. However, I dont understand how people say he didnt have a really good FRESHMAN season.

His stats were 18ppg, 44% fg, 38% from 3pt range, 5rbs...

You can say he doesnt pass the ball or he doesnt play defense. But it's BS to say he didnt have a really good year.
Those numbers are good for anybody, regardless of class.

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You have a point, but I think

You have a point, but I think those numbers don't necessarily translate to the NBA. Allen Crabbe, BJ Young, Erick Green, DeShaun Thomas, Jamaal Franklin and Khalif Wyatt all put up similarly good numbers, but aren't future lottery picks. His numbers are good, but they don't, by themselves, come close to justifying his draft stock. And the numbers put up by the other wings projected to be lottery picks, excluding GR3, are all significantly better, especially when you put them in context. Yes, he is a freshman and would improve, but I don't see tremendous upside.

Shabazz got a lot of opportunities to score coming off screens and in the post in college, and I don't think any NBA team will give him such an opportunity. He is excessively reliant on hitting high degree of difficulty shots in college, and that won't fly against NBA defenders. His inability to get all the way to the rim and finish once he gets there will hinder him in the NBA, given that he doesn't seem to be as explosive or dangerous a perimeter shooter as, say, Ben McLemore is. I highly doubt Muhammad replicates his college success, which was probably not as good as the numbers made it seem, in the NBA.

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2000

I feel like this class could be just as bad as the 2000 draft class.

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McLemore constantly being

McLemore constantly being projected as a "better" Ray Allen has been annoying me for a while. To say he is a better version of a hall of fame player and arguably the best 3-point shooter in NBA history is outrageous.

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McLemore / Allen

McLemore is NOTHING like PRIME Ray Allen, who wasn't just an athletic three point shooter with great off the ball movement, but someone who actually handled the ball more often than not and made plays for his teammates. He drove to the basket and dunked on people during his Bucks days. He drove and dished the ball a lot in Milwaukee and Seattle.

His best year in Seattle he averaged 25 points, 5.5 rebounds, 6 assists, 3 threes and 1.5 steals per game.

McLemore is more like Boston's version of Allen. A good scorer who's effective off the ball. He will never average close to five assists.

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I agree on McLemore. He's a

I agree on McLemore. He's a 6'5" SG, first of all, and his outside shooting isn't that great and he's not a super-freak-athllete. He wasn't that good as a freshman, wither, on a team that needed wing scoring. Nothing really jumps out at me about him.

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Really?

6'5 SG is actually pretty good size for an NBA shooting guard and he played pretty well his freshman season which was this year. He averaged 16 ppg 5 rpg and shot 42 % from 3. That sounds like a pretty good shooter to me. He also has a textbook form and good lift on his jumper and range so he won't have trouble shooting in the NBA. He's very at good at moving without the ball too and should find a starting role in the NBA or at least be a good 6th man.

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bump. this class is pretty

bump.

this class is pretty brutal. we all knew it was a weak draft leading up, but its been worse than expected lol.

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