[Meditated StatesParticipant]

I take the athletic big. You cant lose your job for that. Drummond will be a starting Center some day. I like his chances of doing that over those guys being superstars or even stars.

[A.M.G.Participant]

Who is the best prospect out of those three?

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

Thomas Robinson

Andre Drummond

I honestly don’t know who I’d choose if I was picking regardless of position.

[mosdefParticipant]

to rank these guys in who should go highest, IMO:

 

1. Robinson – like every other prospect, what they measure out will be key. In shoes, if Robinson does measure 6’9” then I think he should go 2. Many people call him undersized but 90% of the PFs in the NBA are 6’9”. His jumper is decent. His dribble is decent. Many question if he can play defense. If you count Garnett as a Center, Ibaka is the only PF in the NBA that can play defense. Question his post up game and I think he can develop it if you look at his dribble and jumper

2.Kidd-Gilchrist- MKG is a wing player. the thing is, I question his ball skills in creating. Ive said it alot, to be selected high as a wing, you better be able to create with the ball in your hand. He is a good player. a real good one but without him being strong in his Guard skills he will need someone else to work for him. Right now he is a transition, spot up 3pt, dunk guy. Right now he is Iguodala or Kawhi Leohnard

3.Drummond- I actually like Barnes better cuz now I compare him to Paul Pierce. Size always gets drafted. He has ability but need to refine more of his shooting skills. It can be done with work in the gym but Im basing all these rankings on skill now

[WolfRobParticipant]

 You can’t lose your Job for taking the athletic big?!?! Drummond has bust written all over him. Don’t get me wrong either, I’m a huge Andre fan and I think he really could be one of the best centers in the game, but he’s the highest risk out of the group.

If a GM uses a #2 pick on him, and he never pans out… Thats your job right there.

MKG is the safest pick.. You know what your getting. There aren’t a lot of question marks with this guy.

[WolfRobParticipant]

 I honestly think, MKG is a lock to go number 2. 

UNLESS, its just a team that doesnt need him at all. 

[MalcolmxParticipant]

 I’ll take Drummond. We are not talking about a Kwame Brown prospect. We are talking about a prospect who is a once in a life time athlete,with a 6’11 frame and huge hands(unlike kwame). Once he gets a mean streak about him.It is over. We have to remember he is just 18 years old. Lets see what he is at 21.He has all of the measurables all he needs to do is be mean and he can be a factor off that alone. Now if he refines his skills,he will be scary good.

[WolfRobParticipant]

 I totally agree ^^^^ 
 

I’m just saying, he is def the pick that could get a GM fired… 

OR a huge raise. 

[joecheck88Participant]

 If you use the second pick on MKG or Robinson and it doesn’t work out you get fired as well. If you don’t take Drummond at 2 and he pans out like he could, you are fired. This guy has been a cant miss talent for years now. A mediocre offensive season at a guard oriented school isn’t a factor in my mind. I expect Drummond to be at least a top 10 center in this league. You have to take this guy. It’s not like MKG or Robinson are going to be franchise changers either. 

[CoolidgerParticipant]

I think it depends on the need of the team drafting second a little bit. If I had to rank them in terms of prospects, i’d go with Drummond as well. Not too many guys outside of Anthony Davis looks like multi team all stars in this draft class right now. Drummond is probably the guy with the closest chance at that. At least, he becomes a Deandre Jordan type player, gets lob dunks and putbacks, protects the rim a bit etc. At most, he could become a really good player at a much harder to find position.

After that, i’d go Robinson then MKG, because Robinson seems to have a bit more upside. That could go both ways though, and both should be able to bring something to the table right off the bat (Robinsons rebounding and effort, MKG’s defensive poise and leadership)

[jeff416Participant]

I would take Drummond. I still think he has the most potential in this draft. Im not sure if he will ever live up to his full potential, but I think he could potentially be a multi time allstar center. I think his upside is worth the risk. I think both MKG and Robinson will both be good NBA players, but I dont think either will be any think spectacular. I see both sticking in the league and being good players, but I don’t really see either making all star apperances. If Im drafting with the #2 pick, I want someone that could be a frachise type player. Obviously, we dont know if Drummond will ever become that, but I think he has a better chance than MKG or Robinson. He also has a chance to be a bigger bust, so I guess it just depends on how much of a risk the gm is willing to take.

[esperanzafleet69Participant]

honestly, the best PROSPECT is mkg.. his work ethic alone will put him ahead of trob and drummond.. its gonna be a tossup who gets picked first though.. i guess it depends on the team.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

He cant shoot well at all. If that does not improve he is not more than a glue guy who will help no doubt. Drummond can give me 10pt 10reb 2.5 blocks and be a worthy top 5 pick. I am not saying I take Drummond two for certain but out of those three I want the strong athletic Center.

[WolfRobParticipant]

Exactly, a glue guy who will forsure help. A better Gerald Wallace. Thats the SAFE pick. Drummond could very possibly have his name tossed around with Kwame, Oden, and even Sam Bowie. 

He could also be in there with Amare, Dwight, and even Shaq. 

 

But he’s not a SAFE pick by any means. 

[Toronto16Participant]

 Drummond for sure.

[ChewyParticipant]

I have to agree with everyone, he has high bust potential. But when did people stop developing big men and just expect them to come into the league as a beast? Center is the hardest position to adjust to in the NBA (unless you say pg and I would understand that pov). This kid is young and athletic, but he may not put it all together for another 5 years!

Look at Bynum, this is his 7th year in the league and he just put it all together. In his first six years he was eithier playing a lot and putting up average numbers OR putting up great numbers and sitting out large portions of the season.

Point is Drummond may not even be worth it until his 2nd contract in the league.

[topotamolderParticipant]

The better prospect? I would say Drummond because of his size and athleticism, but he could easily become a Hasheem Thabeet so it’s risky.

Mkg could be a bust as well, I think he will have a hard time at the offensive end as I don’t feel his offensive skills are going to translate well to the pros.

The safest pick is Robinson without any doubt, but MKG and Drummond are better prospects with more potential

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

MKG is ready to contribute from day 1..MKG’s post game is very underrated….He should definately be among the top 3 or 4 picks…..Gms are now saying they wouldnt take Thomas Robinson in the Top 5.. Becuz he cant create plays for himself..So he might be the guy this year,that slides in the draft…But he shouldnt drop out of the top 12..Becuz of his hustle,hardwork,intensity and ability to rebound..

But out of the 3, i’m taking a chance on Drummond…

[sammybuckeye13Participant]

This is the way I look at it: 

Nothing against Drummond. He has high bust potential but so does every teenage 6-11 big man who doesn’t inspire confidence with his lack of post moves. I firmly believe that in the next 2-3 years, he will learn a few post moves, get meaner and learn to orient himself in the post on D more consistently. Still, I do not see him as a 25, 13 and 2.5 guy, but an all-star level center. I would have no qualms taking him 2nd. 

Robinson always impressed me this year, probably as consistently as any other prospect in the country. He is guaranteed to be a double-double machine, he gives 110% and this year his offensive game just got a whole lot more dynamic. I love David West but I do not think that is an apt comparison for a physical force like Robinson; crazy as it sounds, he’s a lot more like Blake Griffin.

But for me, MKG is the pick. People can continue to complain about the dearth of talented big men while the oft-injured Eric Gordon, (stud) 6th man James Harden are the only players at either SG or SF under the age of 30 with clear all-star potential. That’s sad. But my main reasoning is: Gilchrist was anointed the leader of a very good Kentucky team, thiriving in the rhythm of the game as a do-it-all with tremendous heart, toughness and athleticism that allows him to do pretty much anything…so, what happens when you put him as the do-it-all catalyst of a team with players twice as great as those he played with on Kentucky? He could accomplish a lot in the league and I can’t see, after what they’ve been through, the Wizards or Cavs passing up on him.

[BrentSuriaga01Participant]

For a team who needs true leadership and passion inside the court. Definitely MKG. This dude is very useful to a team who has all the talents but has unmotivated and demoralized players.

For a team who wants to rebuild for the future, definitely drummond, I know he had a bad year with uconn but let’s give him a chance. He’s still a legit player with a high ceiling. More playing time will definitely help him.

For a team who just need a simple player who will easily fit to a role, definitely t-rob. He is a pretty good second to third option to a bad team

[mosdefParticipant]

so…alot of people are picking Drummond 1st cuz hes the tallest

[kdtriv01Participant]

I take MKG or TRob.  The reason is simple.  You cannot teach work ethic.  MKG and TRob will be the absolute best players they can be.  MKG WILL work on getting better.  With his drive he will develop a consistent jump shot.  TRob will develop a more consistant shot.  I simply do not know about Drummond.  He has one of the poorest work ethics I have ever seen. 

MKG is in constant overdrive.  He goes hard constantly as does TRob.

If I’m picking I go…

1. MKG

2.  If I have a SF and need a PF… I go TRob

3.  If I have a SF and a PF… I still take MKG or TRob

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

Nothing is safer than that.

[WolfRobParticipant]

 Just totally disregarding the whole boom or bust aspect of this? Greg Oden played like a center. 

[JoeWolf1]

 I don’t think MKG is a lock at #2 until he gets measured at the combine.  If he is over 6’7” in shoes then I think he’s a lock, but I think teams will be weary of drafting a 6’5” or 6’6” small forward with the 2nd pick of the draft.  Right or wrong, I think will play a factor in his stock.  I don’t think he drops below #4, but I don’t feel we can consider him a lock quite yet.

[mosdefParticipant]

what do you consider playing like a center? Playing defense and catching the alley oop? what does that make Hakeem, Robinson and Ewing then?

[A.M.G.Participant]

I see other people are as torn as me on this. This will be a hard choice to make for just about any GM.

Andre Drummond –

Most potential, most impressive physical attributes of the three with his extremely rare combination of height, length, athleticism, strength, good hands, but very raw offensively and questionable work ethic. I am always skeptical of guys who have relied completely on their size and athleticism for their position, to the point that they have an entitled, lazy attitude and never develop their skills or basketball IQ.

Size and athleticism are nice physical advantages to have, but will Drummond be mentally tough enough to grind it out every night in the NBA on defense and on the glass? And will he develop his skills and B-Ball IQ enough to be an offensive contributor? Those are the real questions here. Totally a boom or bust prospect.

I’m being overly-negative though. Drummond was an 18 year old freshman in the toughest conference in college basketball right now, on a team that lacked its hall-of-fame head coach for a good chunk of the year. Talent is what you want in the draft, even if there are risks involved. Considering his obvious potential and physical advantages, and the rarity of quality players at his position, Drummond is the second-best talent in this draft and will probably go 2nd overall.

Right now, one could compare him to Amar’e without the offensive skills combined with a very poor man’s Dwight. Even though that is a very qualified comparison due to Drummond’s raw skillset and current rep for immaturity (I do not really think he will ever be close to as good as either of those guys), it should give you an idea of how special this kid is physically.

 

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist –

All that being said, MKG is probably the one guy who a GM could really justify picking over Drummond. Frankly it’s a toss-up between the two. Unlike Drummond, MKG combines a high ceiling with being NBA ready. I honestly don’t think there is a player in this draft who is more hard working and competitive than this guy. He combines that with excellent size, length and athleticism for the wing, and possibly the best basketball IQ in this draft. Kendall Marshall is the challenger for that, but unlike him MKG has an NBA body.

Kidd-Gilchrist is a potential lockdown defender at the NBA level, possibly capable of defending PG through PF situationally due to his combination of intelligence, lateral quickness, length, strong body, and toughness. The effort is there every night. He sets up his team-mates. He rebounds and blocks shots well for a SF, would have done a lot more of both if not on the same team as Anthony Davis. He can drive to the basket and isn’t afraid of contact. He’s only 18 years old.

But see now I’m being overly-positive where I was overly-negative with Drummond. MKG is not a good jump-shooter. He doesn’t have good mechanics, maybe due to his very long arms, shoots kind of like Marcus Camby. He does not have the handles to create his own offense consistently. So he probably won’t ever be a go-to scorer. He’ll score points, but not a go-to scorer, and not likely to be a true swingman who you could start at SG, unless you have some really sweet shooting forwards starting with him.

Bottom line though, he’s a winner, much safer pick than Drummond, will very possibly be one of the best SFs in the league down the road, while Drummond might be just another big athlete at center who can’t score. I would compare MKG to a taller, less athletic Iguodala combined with a less jacked Gerald Wallace combined with Shane Battier. Kind of an unusual comparison, but Kidd-Gilchrist is kind of an unusual player.

 

Thomas Robinson –

Interesting that GMs are starting to question Robinson’s ceiling. It’s especially interesting that his offensive abilities are in question, since I’m not sure Drummond, MKG, or even Anthony Davis can "create their own shot" any better than Robinson, and he scored (and rebounded) more than any of them. But the lower ceiling criticism is valid. Robinson will never be perennial all-star type.

He lacks the height or elite skill-set to be a serious offensive match-up problem. He isn’t an incredible shot-blocker either. What he does do at an elite level is rebound the ball like a boss. And he does produce offensively with his strength, athleticism, good hands, solid post moves, decent faceup game. Again, not going to score 20 ppg in the NBA, not going to create for himself consistently, not a crazy match-up problem, but capable of averaging double digits and outplaying a lot of guys.

So there you go, not likely to become a major star, at 21 years old his upside is limited, but almost certainly a very solid near double-double guy. Best comparison is probably a taller Paul Millsap crossed with Brandon Bass. If he actually measures 6’10 in shoes, which I doubt, maybe closer to Al Horford. All I know is I definitely take him over Bradley Beal or Harrison Barnes, although GMs and professional scouts obviously know things I don’t, so whatever.

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