To be honest he is not that good, i never saw him as Elite coming out the draft. Hes very left dominant and he only progressed alil since he has came into the league. What should Memphis do with him moving forward because he does not fit the bill as a guy who can lead them to a Title. If they trade Gay for cap room as the rumors have been saying then i see them rebuilding around Gasol and Z Bo. Idk what Memphis can do because i cannot see them winning without a superstar. All the blue collar stuff has not been working
Funny thing about Conley is that he's better going to his right. But he's solid and far from elite.
They are 4th in the western conference so how is their blue collar approach not working?
I actually did think Conley would be an elite PG coming out and thought the Hawks missed anotjer great one. Nut hes not hes the definition of solid. He lacks creativity and great court vision. And despite his quickness, speed and great ball handling hes not really a playmaker.
Memphis could potentially contend for 3 more years wit ZBo and Gasol so they should make a move with Gay and even Conley to bring in better complimemtary pieces.
haha simple minded people smh.. They have no shot in the west to win a title. At least i know
To say a hard working team thats ranked fourth in a tough conference, with arguably the most complete frontcourt in the NBA has no shot at winning the title is being simple minded.
Hahah idc about the Negs because i actually have a life and gets girls and money. But anyway ^^^ you have no idea what your talking about. They have no chance of beating OKC or The Clips so your opinion does not count. Conley is garbage beyond belief haha, he will never make the all star team. This is no hate i just look at it from a GM standpoint, they need to rebuild. Gay is soft, i like the frontcourt but i look at reality. Im not even going to look at this thread anymore, ill let you losers comment and vote down hahahah
Just like to talk basketball with people that know the game man no need to attack people. There's always a chance in sports for upsets.
The Grizzlies are the new version of the Hawks. Just a collection of good, not great, players, who will make the playoffs, but will not go far.
^^Exactly say no more, at least someone isnt nutty
Conley's not the problem. He's the type of ball control PG that they need. Since they're a half-court and post heavy team there aren't many opportunities for making plays. It's hard to get into the lane when it's occupied by 2 post players and their defenders taking up space near the paint Plus they run a lot of their offense through Gasol, so the emphasis for the PG is taking care of the ball, feeding the post and spacing the floor. Conley can do that, plus he's a good defender to boot.
Nobody is saying Conley is an "elite" PG... as in among the most gifted handful of PGs in the league... to be an elite player you have to be one of the best in the league... He was never expected to be elite. Infact his hype was even overshadowed by his HS and college teammate Greg Oden.
Conley is a very good player though...
He's one of the top perimeter defenders in the league, and he's a true PG. He looks to get his teammates involved first which is beneficial for Memphis' style. His shooting range has improved much since he's entered the league. (heck, since the last couple years) He's definitely a legit starter.
In the West, it's any team's chance to go to the finals. And if Memphis actually got to the finals and played say MIA, Memphis would probably be one of the last teams MIA would want to face. They have a deep roster, A GOOD PG IN CONLEY, and a front court MIA has no answer for... in other words, they are good top to bottom and their biggest strengths are MIA struggles most. Not to mention they beat the Spurs a couple years ago in the playoffs with Conley running point, and weren't exactly a push over against the Clippers last year.
The Grizzlies have been a team this year playing at streaky levels of polar extremes, playing either very good or very bad... and may or may not get far in the playoffs, but the wild wild West is no joke...
Reading that original post on this thread and reading the term "simple minded" reminded me that some people on this site just want to hate or have literally 3 brain cells in their head that don't even get along...
The Grizzlies play a similar offensive style to the Pacers. They play a half-court game through their bigs and they don't really get a lot of assists. What Siggy had to say was on point. I think Mike Conley would be a different player if he played in a fast paced, spread offense, etc, etc.
To suggest Conley hasn't improved since he entered the NBA just says you haven't really watched him enough. I watched Conley for four years at Lawrence North HS and also while at Ohio State and I can't believe how much he's improved. I was never that impressed with him in HS, but I have to give him his credit for improving his game... ESPECIALLY his shooting.
While I agree that he isn't elite, I don't think it's fair to say he's not that good, and that he hasn't progressed. His greatest improvement since coming into the league has been on the defensive side of the ball, which is difficult to measure, but if you watched him then and you watch him now, you'll see fairly substantial difference. Offensively, he's improved as a passer over his first five years. He's also picked up his scoring a little bit while maintaining decent percentages -- the improvement has been slight, but at the same time, he is neither the type of point to look to score, nor is that what the Grizzlies ask of him.
This is the same Mike Conley that started for the Grizz when they beat the team with the league's best record in the 2011 playoffs, in 6 games. But I guess it's all forgotten if he commits a bad foul against Indiana in the dying seconds of a regular season game.
If I was the Grizzlies GM I would be more concerned with their 2nd unit. The difference in guard play when guys like Bayless come in is terrible.